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Post by royalkerryfan on Jun 29, 2023 19:07:58 GMT
Breen and Brosnan drop to the bench. Happy with the team would like to obeaghlaoich start but he hasn't enough football played. Bench looks strong too. Unseasonably strong wind forecast which will make it interesting.
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Post by thechosenone on Jun 29, 2023 19:09:50 GMT
Kerry Gaa getting very fancy with their Twitter postings! Must be the summer intern.
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Post by listowelemerrs on Jun 29, 2023 19:10:25 GMT
I don’t know lads, we really need Begley and o brien on the field. The reality is Moynihan struggled against Tyrone in 2021 and not playing great this year. Let’s hope he can right the wrongs and prove himself. His time is now. Begley and o brien were our top 5 performers last year.. I’m saying that… the prospect of a triple change of brosnan, obrien and Begley is a nice little pace changing sub bench to bring on. I am quietly confident.
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Post by royalkerryfan on Jun 29, 2023 19:15:59 GMT
I don’t know lads, we really need Begley and o brien on the field. The reality is Moynihan struggled against Tyrone in 2021 and not playing great this year. Let’s hope he can right the wrongs and prove himself. His time is now. Begley and o brien were our top 5 performers last year.. I’m saying that… the prospect of a triple change of brosnan, obrien and Begley is a nice little pace changing sub bench to bring on. I am quietly confident. Infairness OBrien and OBeaghlaoich haven't enough football players you'd have to guess. Great to come on in the 2nd half. Brosnan is not suited to Tyrone IMO. Takes too much out of the ball and Tyrone will swallow him up. Impact of the bench certainly. Dara had a good game against Louth so hopefully be continues that.
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Post by hatchetman on Jun 29, 2023 19:18:00 GMT
Here's a hopball for everyone - if game goes to penalties who are the chosen 5 (obviously all dependent on who is on field by end of game). I'm going with the following 2 x Cliffords Seanie Shea Tom Sullivan Shane Ryan I'm not convinced by David Cliffords penalty technique (heresy) which seems to be based on the Ivan Toney method. It depends on a stuttered run up waiting for the goalie to dive and when he does, passing the ball in the other side. I suspect goalies will stand up until Clifford has struck the ball and will try and dive to get to it as the technique doesn't allow him to strike it very hard. A soccer goal is much wider so it's easier for the likes of Toney to place it out of the reach of the goalie.
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Post by greengold35 on Jun 29, 2023 19:52:14 GMT
I don’t know lads, we really need Begley and o brien on the field. The reality is Moynihan struggled against Tyrone in 2021 and not playing great this year. Let’s hope he can right the wrongs and prove himself. His time is now. Begley and o brien were our top 5 performers last year.. I’m saying that… the prospect of a triple change of brosnan, obrien and Begley is a nice little pace changing sub bench to bring on. I am quietly confident. Infairness OBrien and OBeaghlaoich haven't enough football players you'd have to guess. Great to come on in the 2nd half. Brosnan is not suited to Tyrone IMO. Takes too much out of the ball and Tyrone will swallow him up. Impact of the bench certainly. Dara had a good game against Louth so hopefully be continues that. PK & Co took a flier on Dara M in ‘21 when he clearly was not match fit.
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Post by diego on Jun 29, 2023 20:16:00 GMT
Here's a hopball for everyone - if game goes to penalties who are the chosen 5 (obviously all dependent on who is on field by end of game). I'm going with the following 2 x Cliffords Seanie Shea Tom Sullivan Shane Ryan Think i'd have Paul Murphy (going on a gut feeling there as never seen him take a penalty, just think he'd have the cool head and strikes a nice ball in general) and Geaney over Ryan.
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Post by diego on Jun 29, 2023 20:20:53 GMT
Not likely either would be playing the full 70 + 20 of course but might come off on 53 and re-enter on 89 to take the pen.
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Post by diego on Jun 29, 2023 20:23:23 GMT
Here's a hopball for everyone - if game goes to penalties who are the chosen 5 (obviously all dependent on who is on field by end of game). I'm going with the following 2 x Cliffords Seanie Shea Tom Sullivan Shane Ryan The ending 15 is as crucial as the starting 15, penalties apart. Just a pity it is closed doors training, 'twould be nice to be figuring out the plan. And yeah, a long week it is! Mandad was a fella you'd imagine being in watching training back in the day. He had a mole in the camp anyway, if not being the mole himself! Had info you would not pick off the regular grapevine.
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Post by royalkerryfan on Jun 29, 2023 20:25:49 GMT
Infairness OBrien and OBeaghlaoich haven't enough football players you'd have to guess. Great to come on in the 2nd half. Brosnan is not suited to Tyrone IMO. Takes too much out of the ball and Tyrone will swallow him up. Impact of the bench certainly. Dara had a good game against Louth so hopefully be continues that. PK & Co took a flier on Dara M in ‘21 when he clearly was not match fit. Yes I remember that, Hopefully we don't make the same mistake again.
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Post by pukefootball on Jun 29, 2023 20:37:51 GMT
Just a few thoughts ahead of the game…
- This will have to be a patient performance. - We will have to outsmart Tyrone for once. - Wingbacks and wing forwards must be ready for the breaks on kick outs. Jack and Diarmuid should be our two main targets with Dara, Adrian, Murphy and, White all ready to retrieve loose balls. - We will have to support Paudie Clifford. Conor Meyler has done a great job on him recently and we will have to make sure that this doesn’t happen again to the extent it has. Paudie is our 2nd most important player in my opinion, and is the glue of the team. Having him marked out of it would be fiercely detrimental. - It cannot just be David Clifford who supplies our scores, other corner forwards like Geaney and Moynihan will have to show including Sean O’Shea. Killian Spillane is a huge loss for scores off the bench. - Finally, I can see Foley taking McCurry, Tom taking Darragh Canavan, and for Ruairi Canavan? Graham? Hard to know. Tyrone’s forward threats are incredibly worrying.
Been worried for this since Saturday night, two nights before the draw, I knew we were getting Tyrone! Hard to be confident to be honest, with the mediocre year we’ve had. Here’s hoping my pessimism is proven wrong, up the Kingdom.
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Post by Kingdomson on Jun 29, 2023 21:25:06 GMT
Just a few thoughts ahead of the game… - This will have to be a patient performance. - We will have to outsmart Tyrone for once. - Wingbacks and wing forwards must be ready for the breaks on kick outs. Jack and Diarmuid should be our two main targets with Dara, Adrian, Murphy and, White all ready to retrieve loose balls. - We will have to support Paudie Clifford. Conor Meyler has done a great job on him recently and we will have to make sure that this doesn’t happen again to the extent it has. Paudie is our 2nd most important player in my opinion, and is the glue of the team. Having him marked out of it would be fiercely detrimental. - It cannot just be David Clifford who supplies our scores, other corner forwards like Geaney and Moynihan will have to show including Sean O’Shea. Killian Spillane is a huge loss for scores off the bench. - Finally, I can see Foley taking McCurry, Tom taking Darragh Canavan, and for Ruairi Canavan? Graham? Hard to know. Tyrone’s forward threats are incredibly worrying. Been worried for this since Saturday night, two nights before the draw, I knew we were getting Tyrone! Hard to be confident to be honest, with the mediocre year we’ve had. Here’s hoping my pessimism is proven wrong, up the Kingdom. Agree with all above and especially to support David it would take us a long way if we could get a really sustained 70 minute+ performance from Sean O'Shea. It's asking a lot in an energy sapping game but if the brilliantly talented Sean O'Shea remains a thorn in the side of of Tyrone the last 15 minutes as much as the first 15 minutes then we really will be in business. This being said if we see fade outs management need to be sharp and act fast - we have forwards on the bench to be brought in.
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Post by Attacking Wing Back on Jun 29, 2023 21:41:26 GMT
I think how we configure our forwards on Saturday will be one of the most intriguing subplots of the game. Presumably Jack & Co have 4 main objectives for the forwards: - Avoid Paudie getting taken out of the game like in 21.
- Engineer as many 1v1 battles for David and his marker.
- Use our half forwards to slow up the momentum of Tyrone when breaking with the ball.
- Get as many breaks as possible.
On top of all this I think the Louth game has shown that management think keeping Seanie close to goal for spells benefits both the player and team alike. I can't see Kerry playing with 3 in the full forward line for any great amounts of time on Saturday so does that mean that PG will drift out and act as the link man. Can Geaney track his man if he goes up the field. If Seanie is in the full forward line and his marker attacks does he stick or twist? Will Kerry bank on Tyrone playing with some sort of sweeper to combat David Clifford and look to engineer Morely as our own +1. Or will jack decide to play with 5 up with Adrian Spillane dropping back to sweep behind the half backline?
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Post by Ballyfireside on Jun 29, 2023 21:51:02 GMT
Cheers Ballyfireside.. yea reading the posts for years decided to contribute.. Sure we’ll all have differing opinions at times but sure that’s what makes it interesting.. But one thing that we’ll all agree on is the team doing well and hopefully that will continue Saturday evening.. let’s hope we get a good Kerry crowd to croker Saturday evening and roar on the boys.. They give us great pleasure.. You also have the option to Quote when Replying and which flags your response to them while forming a mini-thread of the conversation, just like I did here! Don't hesitate to ask anyone, we are all good eggs!!!
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Post by Hicser on Jun 29, 2023 22:47:03 GMT
Hi Moderator, I believe Veteran is gone due to an issue over some deleted posts, a bit of a loss I would say especially at this time of year, is there anything that can be done to resolve this situation?
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Post by Control3 on Jun 30, 2023 1:14:07 GMT
Hi Moderator, I believe Veteran is gone due to an issue over some deleted posts, a bit of a loss I would say especially at this time of year, is there anything that can be done to resolve this situation? I can't even remember why he left but, do remember it had something to do with him taking grave exception to a post being deleted and taking issue with the moderators. Not sure if it was implied that the control team were subservient to the county board as well. He is more than welcome back here to post anytime he wants. His account has not been deleted or anything by us. However, it's the same rules for everyone on this board regardless of status; perceived or otherwise. Plenty of members have had a post or two deleted. It happens but, to basically boycott the forum as you don't agree with a decesion is his own to do.
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Post by colinsworth1 on Jun 30, 2023 2:45:12 GMT
Veteran if you’re out there please come back we all miss you here I m very relieved to hear that you’re still to the good . I feared your health was failing or worse since I hadn’t seen your posts lately . This forum is simply not as good without your post match analysis and vitally the manner in which you deliver. Con Houlihan has left us but your style is similar and unique and pure Kerry Life is too short let’s Rock on here Especially in the eve of our mammoth challenge this weekend I’m not saying your word is gospel but always loved your angle on things We need this win so bad I feel we need to Back our Kerry style here and cut loose Tyrone may have some good young forwards But they have an aging creaking defence Their midfield is versatile and probably the only place they have a clear advantage Mayo beat Galway last week without a proper midfield Hope we can do same and heres hoping our 8 and 9 silence us critics for once and for all
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Post by Hicser on Jun 30, 2023 3:43:51 GMT
Hi Moderator, I believe Veteran is gone due to an issue over some deleted posts, a bit of a loss I would say especially at this time of year, is there anything that can be done to resolve this situation? I can't even remember why he left but, do remember it had something to do with him taking grave exception to a post being deleted and taking issue with the moderators. Not sure if it was implied that the control team were subservient to the county board as well. He is more than welcome back here to post anytime he wants. His account has not been deleted or anything by us. However, it's the same rules for everyone on this board regardless of status; perceived or otherwise. Plenty of members have had a post or two deleted. It happens but, to basically boycott the forum as you don't agree with a decesion is his own to do. Thanks for the reply Moderator, My reasons for posting are purely selfish. The quality of contributors on this forum are the best I have come across and to be fair the fact it is moderated so well makes it much easier to read. The idiots per say don’t last too long! Veteran please start posting again, I tend to look for your post match analysis as they are the best reads, some newer posters also have great skill but you are still a step above, always entertaining. Sometimes a point of principle can have a most damaging effect. Your article on Tom Long was a great read but why did he stop playing football, I hope it wasn’t a point of principle that was not so important to prevent him collecting a few more medals, Please come back and tell me we will beat Tyrone🤣
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Post by kerryexile on Jun 30, 2023 8:29:56 GMT
Hi Moderator, I believe Veteran is gone due to an issue over some deleted posts, a bit of a loss I would say especially at this time of year, is there anything that can be done to resolve this situation? I can't even remember why he left but, do remember it had something to do with him taking grave exception to a post being deleted and taking issue with the moderators. Not sure if it was implied that the control team were subservient to the county board as well. He is more than welcome back here to post anytime he wants. His account has not been deleted or anything by us. However, it's the same rules for everyone on this board regardless of status; perceived or otherwise. Plenty of members have had a post or two deleted. It happens but, to basically boycott the forum as you don't agree with a decesion is his own to do. I can remember why he "left" or rather chose not to participate. An objectionable incident happened in a game and no action was taken against the perpetrator. Veteran commented on it. Someone made it known to people who can delete posts that they did not like the comments. The comment was deleted thereby controlling debate on the incident. If "It's the same rules for everyone" how come one objector can have a post deleted. At the time the powers that be said they had received an objection and deleted the post. They did NOT say that they, in their own opinion, thought it should be deleted.
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Post by Ballyfireside on Jun 30, 2023 9:15:58 GMT
The forum is of course a better place with auld Vet and while I believe he was factually correct, that TCB has oversight here means that we have to be careful. I was condemned by nut cases in at least two notable instances - firstly when I addressed the economics of all things GAA then my disappointment when the NK final wasn't broadcast live.
Hey Vet, if only for our sakes, you might reconsider.
Yerra, go on, go on, go on - come on, come on, come on!
The consensus from the neutrals I've been chatting with is that we have the winning of it if we deal with the bogey factor. We must up our game beyond what they will improve, bearing in mind the respective paces we have (and/or haven't) been through. And also, importantly, say what we will of the new structure, weaknesses in every team have been exposed - both of us could have been out in the last round and the team that saved the Red Hands had their day in the sun with us earlier on.
Let's burn the Red Hands!
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Post by rollingstone on Jun 30, 2023 9:38:39 GMT
I can't even remember why he left but, do remember it had something to do with him taking grave exception to a post being deleted and taking issue with the moderators. Not sure if it was implied that the control team were subservient to the county board as well. He is more than welcome back here to post anytime he wants. His account has not been deleted or anything by us. However, it's the same rules for everyone on this board regardless of status; perceived or otherwise. Plenty of members have had a post or two deleted. It happens but, to basically boycott the forum as you don't agree with a decesion is his own to do. I can remember why he "left" or rather chose not to participate. An objectionable incident happened in a game and no action was taken against the perpetrator. Veteran commented on it. Someone made it known to people who can delete posts that they did not like the comments. The comment was deleted thereby controlling debate on the incident. If "It's the same rules for everyone" how come one objector can have a post deleted. At the time the powers that be said they had received an objection and deleted the post. They did NOT say that they, in their own opinion, thought it should be deleted. Amen. And that was Veteran's point. Too much of that nonsense going on all over now
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Post by royalkerryfan on Jun 30, 2023 9:42:57 GMT
I can remember why he "left" or rather chose not to participate. An objectionable incident happened in a game and no action was taken against the perpetrator. Veteran commented on it. Someone made it known to people who can delete posts that they did not like the comments. The comment was deleted thereby controlling debate on the incident. If "It's the same rules for everyone" how come one objector can have a post deleted. At the time the powers that be said they had received an objection and deleted the post. They did NOT say that they, in their own opinion, thought it should be deleted. Amen. And that was Veteran's point. Too much of that nonsense going on all over now Vet was a great contributor and it was a pleasure reading his opinions. The Mods have a difficult job on these forums. I visit other forums like the Dubs and frankly i am astonished with whats allowed on there at times. Would love to see Vets posts again but equally you have to respect his wishes.
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Post by thehermit on Jun 30, 2023 9:53:01 GMT
Anyway back to the match, Tyrone team named this morning:
Niall Morgan (Edendork) Michael McKernan (Coalisland) Ronan McNamee (Aghyaran) Pádraig Hampsey (Coalisland) Cormac Quinn (Errigal Ciaran) Michael O’Neill (Ardboe) Peter Harte (Errigal Ciaran) Brian Kennedy (Derrylaughan) Conn Kilpatrick (Edendork) Conor Meyler (Omagh) Ruairí Canavan (Errigal Ciaran) Kieran McGeary (Pomeroy) Darren McCurry (Edendork) Matthew Donnelly (Trillick) Darragh Canavan (Errigal Ciaran) Lorcan Quinn (Donaghmore) Frank Burns (Pomeroy) Aidan Clarke (Omagh) Niall Devlin (Coalisland) Richard Donnelly (Trillick) Niall Kelly (Errigal Ciaran) Nathan McCarron (Dromore) Cathal McShane (Owen Roes) Seanie O’Donnell (Trillick) Joe Oguz (Errigal Ciaran) Niall Sludden (Dromore)
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Post by royalkerryfan on Jun 30, 2023 9:57:06 GMT
Anyway back to the match, Tyrone team named this morning: Niall Morgan (Edendork) Michael McKernan (Coalisland) Ronan McNamee (Aghyaran) Pádraig Hampsey (Coalisland) Cormac Quinn (Errigal Ciaran) Michael O’Neill (Ardboe) Peter Harte (Errigal Ciaran) Brian Kennedy (Derrylaughan) Conn Kilpatrick (Edendork) Conor Meyler (Omagh) Ruairí Canavan (Errigal Ciaran) Kieran McGeary (Pomeroy) Darren McCurry (Edendork) Matthew Donnelly (Trillick) Darragh Canavan (Errigal Ciaran) Lorcan Quinn (Donaghmore) Frank Burns (Pomeroy) Aidan Clarke (Omagh) Niall Devlin (Coalisland) Richard Donnelly (Trillick) Niall Kelly (Errigal Ciaran) Nathan McCarron (Dromore) Cathal McShane (Owen Roes) Seanie O’Donnell (Trillick) Joe Oguz (Errigal Ciaran) Niall Sludden (Dromore) I think they may leave Ruairi on the bench. Otherwise they have little impact off the bench which you need.
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Post by thehermit on Jun 30, 2023 10:06:50 GMT
Strange how much McShane's star has faded in only 2 years!
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Post by kerryman90 on Jun 30, 2023 10:09:20 GMT
I think Cathal McShane could have a big say in the outcome of this match yet!!
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Post by Hicser on Jun 30, 2023 10:18:30 GMT
Prediction:
Kerry 1:15 to Tyrone 0:13, hard fought game but Kerry defense hold strong, gain parity in midfield and forwards do the rest,
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Post by Hicser on Jun 30, 2023 10:20:00 GMT
Then will meet Armagh in Semi with Dublin in final,
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Post by pony on Jun 30, 2023 10:26:39 GMT
Hey All, I have ended up with 3 spare tickets for the game Saturday, one is in 306, other 2 are in 313, one of these is a juvenile ticket. If anyone's interested, please let me know
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Post by royalkerryfan on Jun 30, 2023 10:38:44 GMT
I think Cathal McShane could have a big say in the outcome of this match yet!! I would very much doubt it, The lad hasn't kicked a ball all summer and his form has been poor.. Hope that doesn't come back to haunt me.
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