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Post by greengold35 on Jun 18, 2023 14:40:32 GMT
Kerry top the group, Cork 2nd , Mayo 3rd!
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Post by southward on Jun 18, 2023 14:42:28 GMT
For the first, and only, time ever... Hon the Rebels!
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Post by mike70 on Jun 18, 2023 14:51:59 GMT
Our thanks to our neighbours over the county bounds. I stayed with the cork v mayo in second half, some huge work rate, leading to turnovers, their bench had a big impact, they’re probably still short a few, but home game next week.
We get a week off, great performance today, bounce backability, our guys looked fresh today, well done to all.
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Post by hatchetman on Jun 18, 2023 14:58:40 GMT
Call me an optimist but, I think Kerry might have timed their run in terms of peaking at the right time this year. Looking at the draw for the provinces etc early in the year Jack and Co would have expected Galway & Mayo, Dubs and another and Derry / Tyrone and Armagh to make the provincial finals. And cork to make the Munster final. If it worked out that way we wouldn't be playing one of the big guns like Mayo / Galway or Tyrone etc until our final group game and at a neutral venue. The third and fourth seeds in our group would have come from lower down the league table, Maybe a Roscommon or Donegal or Kildare etc. Meaning we would have had an easier home game to kick off with and our away match would be against a fourth seed like Westmeath etc. We looked good in the Munster final so I wonder was the plan from the terms of the start of the year to peak at Munster final time and again at the final qualifier group game. Take the week off and go again. So I think we might actually hit the ground running next week and put the game to bed early so we can run the bench to rest players to be fresh for the preliminary game in Killarney Is that you Jack?
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Post by southward on Jun 18, 2023 15:00:33 GMT
Finishing third in that group after winning well in Killarney has to be the most Mayo thing ever. Could anyone else have managed this?
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Post by augustafield on Jun 18, 2023 15:21:58 GMT
I did use the word ‘ emphatically ‘ in recent post regarding today’s game against Louth but didn’t expect the score we put up.
Now the fun starts .
Pity poor Mayo thanks to the Rebels .
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Post by greengold35 on Jun 18, 2023 15:24:02 GMT
If anything I'd like our last memory in Killarney this year to not be that Mayo game. Killarney is so special no other county has such a special place. Especially when you are living outside of Kerry. Travelling in by Train leaving Rathmore and coming into the Mountains.. Just special. You got your wish Royal😊Straight to quarter. No more Killarney this year Home 1/4 final in Killarney!
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Post by Ballyfireside on Jun 18, 2023 15:47:51 GMT
And for all the misgivings about the new structure, we could have been knocked out on the final game but instead we topped the group - still I'd say the early view was right, i.e. that it was a long winded way of eliminating a mere 25% of the teams, and while hopefully that will be corrected, it was a bit unusual that a system with such an obvious kink was chosen as the best option. I mean this business of structuring competitions is risky at the best of times without inviting trouble.
Anyway a great day for us again and that will cheer people up.
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Post by Ballyfireside on Jun 18, 2023 15:50:26 GMT
I can't get to the game today for family reasons. I am open to correction in this, but I think this could be the first time ever in my life, that I am limited to radio coverage for Kerry playing a post Munster Final championship game. Even as a child I remember we got the Semi-Finals in black and white. There is a serious debate to be had about who owns the GAA. And wasn't I lambasted from all angles on here for raising my voice about it - ah them black and white days, when boys were men and Sam didn't stray!
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Post by ciarrai74 on Jun 18, 2023 15:51:36 GMT
Awe the world seems a little brighter after today's results. Impressive scoring display by the Kingdom. We made Mayo look good and people got carried away with them. Fair play to Cork for doing us a favour. Croke Park double header for the Quarter Finals. The real championship starts then.
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Post by greengold35 on Jun 18, 2023 16:01:44 GMT
Home 1/4 final in Killarney! I think the quarters are neutral venue. Would nt mind Portlaoise again You are correct! “ The quarter-finals, and semi-finals will be winner on the day with venues for those rounds to be determined by the CCCC.“
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Post by Jo90 on Jun 18, 2023 16:03:49 GMT
I can't get to the game today for family reasons. I am open to correction in this, but I think this could be the first time ever in my life, that I am limited to radio coverage for Kerry playing a post Munster Final championship game. Even as a child I remember we got the Semi-Finals in black and white. There is a serious debate to be had about who owns the GAA. Kerry v Longford in 2009?
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Post by orangerhyme on Jun 18, 2023 16:12:09 GMT
And for all the misgivings about the new structure, we could have been knocked out on the final game but instead we topped the group - still I'd say the early view was right, i.e. that it was a long winded way of eliminating a mere 25% of the teams, and while hopefully that will be corrected, it was a bit unusual that a system with such an obvious kink was chosen as the best option. I mean this business of structuring competitions is risky at the best of times without inviting trouble. Anyway a great day for us again and that will cheer people up. It's a funny old system but I think it has more plusses than minuses.
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Post by diego on Jun 18, 2023 17:03:05 GMT
I think the quarters are neutral venue. Would nt mind Portlaoise again You are correct! “ The quarter-finals, and semi-finals will be winner on the day with venues for those rounds to be determined by the CCCC.“ Semi finals are confirmed for Croke Park. One is on after the Tailteann Cup final and the other is on the day after with the curtain raiser again being the so called All Ireland Junior Championship final (which only Kilkenny, the British representatives and Larry McCarthy's friends in New York are eligible for). Would be surprised if they don't make the quarters in to 2 double headers in HQ as well, if recent history is anything to go by.
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Post by The16thMan on Jun 18, 2023 17:40:05 GMT
Seanie along with Clifford in the full forward line is the way forward for us lads. There's enough creativity with Paudie, Adrian, Dara, SOB as half forwards. Geaney/Brosnan along with with the 2 lads is a serious full forward line. We should hopefully stick to that going forward. Seanie has already been dangerous close to goal. Look at Dublin last year... I liked Shane Ryan occupying space for the kickouts as our midfielders need that extra body, as long as they don't overdo it like Rafferty does with Armagh.
As for Quarters, I'm nearly 100% sure that it will be the same as before, 2 days of double headers in Croke Park. Thats always been classed a neutral venue in the GAAs language and that's where the QFs will be.
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Post by sullyschoice on Jun 18, 2023 17:47:13 GMT
From my vantage point on the terrace there was 3 points given that looked to be definitely wide. Two for Louth and one for us. Not that it makes much difference now
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Post by orangerhyme on Jun 18, 2023 17:49:20 GMT
Seanie along with Clifford in the full forward line is the way forward for us lads. There's enough creativity with Paudie, Adrian, Dara, SOB as half forwards. Geaney/Brosnan along with with the 2 lads is a serious full forward line. We should hopefully stick to that going forward. Seanie has already been dangerous close to goal. Look at Dublin last year... I liked Shane Ryan occupying space for the kickouts as our midfielders need that extra body, as long as they don't overdo it like Rafferty does with Armagh. As for Quarters, I'm nearly 100% sure that it will be the same as before, 2 days of double headers in Croke Park. Thats always been classed a neutral venue in the GAAs language and that's where the QFs will be. Does anyone know who we are likely to draw or is it an open draw? I'm not sure if we'd have been better off with an extra game or a weeks preparation. I always think games are best preparation.
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Post by The16thMan on Jun 18, 2023 17:54:06 GMT
Seanie along with Clifford in the full forward line is the way forward for us lads. There's enough creativity with Paudie, Adrian, Dara, SOB as half forwards. Geaney/Brosnan along with with the 2 lads is a serious full forward line. We should hopefully stick to that going forward. Seanie has already been dangerous close to goal. Look at Dublin last year... I liked Shane Ryan occupying space for the kickouts as our midfielders need that extra body, as long as they don't overdo it like Rafferty does with Armagh. As for Quarters, I'm nearly 100% sure that it will be the same as before, 2 days of double headers in Croke Park. Thats always been classed a neutral venue in the GAAs language and that's where the QFs will be. Does anyone know who we are likely to draw or is it an open draw? I'm not sure if we'd have been better off with an extra game or a weeks preparation. I always think games are best preparation. We cannot draw any team we've played in the group so can't get Mayo. Provincial final repeats also will be avoided where possible. Galway will be the team we would probably want to avoid most but even at that I think they are slightly over hyped, followed by Tyrone. It would be good for Kerry if we see a clash of Mayo and Galway in the PQFs come out in tomorrow mornings draw.
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Post by peanuts on Jun 18, 2023 18:28:05 GMT
Seanie along with Clifford in the full forward line is the way forward for us lads. There's enough creativity with Paudie, Adrian, Dara, SOB as half forwards. Geaney/Brosnan along with with the 2 lads is a serious full forward line. We should hopefully stick to that going forward. Seanie has already been dangerous close to goal. Look at Dublin last year... I liked Shane Ryan occupying space for the kickouts as our midfielders need that extra body, as long as they don't overdo it like Rafferty does with Armagh. As for Quarters, I'm nearly 100% sure that it will be the same as before, 2 days of double headers in Croke Park. Thats always been classed a neutral venue in the GAAs language and that's where the QFs will be. Does anyone know who we are likely to draw or is it an open draw? I'm not sure if we'd have been better off with an extra game or a weeks preparation.I always think games are best preparation. I'll say the same as I said to a lad coming out of the game today, we won't know the answer to that until 2 weeks and it will obviously depend on the result.
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Post by royalkerryfan on Jun 18, 2023 18:35:11 GMT
Firstly fair dues to Mick who said there'd be twists in the group yet.
I couldn't see it but fair play to Cork the reaction in the stand was fantastic.. it was like those clips you'd see in the premiership when a team avoids relegation or gets promotion based on other results and the fans go crazy in the stand.
On the game look Louth were abysmal but Kerry got all the fundamentals right and the attitude was spot on.
Seanie and Diarmuid were exceptional for me.
I saw diarmuid swing a few over in his runners as they walked the pitch and I sensed he was tuned in today.
Just on Mayo... How in the name of god can you win in Kerry and come 3rd. Typical Mayo.
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Post by givehimaball on Jun 18, 2023 18:42:56 GMT
Does anyone know who we are likely to draw or is it an open draw? I'm not sure if we'd have been better off with an extra game or a weeks preparation.I always think games are best preparation. I'll say the same as I said to a lad coming out of the game today, we won't know the answer to that until 2 weeks and it will obviously depend on the result. If we want to hang on to Sam, topping the group gives us an enormous advantage. It's not like the old days when there could be weeks between games. The quarter-final is on the weekend after next, with the semi-finals two weeks after that and the final a further fortnight on. It's not like we'll be waiting weeks for a September final.
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Post by greengold35 on Jun 18, 2023 18:45:23 GMT
Firstly fair dues to Mick who said there'd be twists in the group yet. I couldn't see it but fair play to Cork the reaction in the stand was fantastic.. it was like those clips you'd see in the premiership when a team avoids relegation or gets promotion based on other results and the fans go crazy in the stand. On the game look Louth were abysmal but Kerry got all the fundamentals right and the attitude was spot on. Seanie and Diarmuid were exceptional for me. I saw diarmuid swing a few over in his runners as they walked the pitch and I sensed he was tuned in today. Just on Mayo... How in the name of god can you win in Kerry and come 3rd. Typical Mayo. Think there are a couple of reasons ( winning in Kerry etc) : 1. S & C & fitness - Mayo were well ahead of us in terms of fitness etc in the first part of the year - this was really evident in Castlebar n the league & carried over into the championship 2. Belief in their own hype - probably got a bit carried away winning the league & beating Kerry - the loss to Roscommon was a warning sign but was forgotten about when winning in Killarney.
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Post by thepope on Jun 18, 2023 18:46:11 GMT
100% Mayo to throw a 6-point lead and finish 3rd in the group.
We looked full of energy today, very accurate kicking from distance in the 1st half especially.
Jason Foley assigned man-marking duties and his man was taken off early, did very well.
Seanie Shea did well in near the goals and I still think this is where he'll do best this year, he knows how to score and can offer a long option winning ball over his head.
Shane Ryan retrieved ball faster today for kickouts even though Louth obviously conceded a lot of kickouts. Good to see.
Diarmuid O'Connor kicked some excellent 1st half points.
Paudie Clifford moved ball very well and found some lovely passes.
David Clifford is just different gravy.
Mike Breen did well and good to see O'Beaglaoich back in the fold too, we'll need extra options for the backs. Our bench looks better now than a couple of months ago witg fellas returning.
Louth aren't really up to this level, lacked intensity in the tackle, lacked the basic skills of the game when under pressure and had some very poor efforts at scores.
One negative. Tony Brosnan (played well) can take too much out of the ball and run down blind alleys. He'll get turned over against serious opposition. He just needs to do what he has to do a bit more quickly, whether it's taking a man on, passing the ball off or working space to score. He has many qualities though.
The extra week gives the squad a chance to tailor preparation for a 1/4 final, lessens chance of injury but costs killarney publicans a lot of money!
We're still 1 of maybe 4 teams who look capable of winning it out. It's all on the day from now on.
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Post by royalkerryfan on Jun 18, 2023 18:46:46 GMT
I'll say the same as I said to a lad coming out of the game today, we won't know the answer to that until 2 weeks and it will obviously depend on the result. If we want to hang on to Sam, topping the group gives us an enormous advantage. It's not like the old days when there could be weeks between games. The quarter-final is on the weekend after next, with the semi-finals two weeks after that and the final a further fortnight on. It's not like we'll be waiting weeks for a September final. All 4 of last years semi finalists have topped their groups. I think having a game next week would be far from ideal. 2 week break, Get Lads back and we will be set for a difficult QF in CP. Edit my mistake, I thought Gakway topped their group.
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Post by brucewayne on Jun 18, 2023 18:55:10 GMT
Armagh topped group 2.
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Post by royalkerryfan on Jun 18, 2023 18:56:04 GMT
Yes my mistake I swore Sunday sport said Galway were straight through.
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Post by Hicser on Jun 18, 2023 19:02:46 GMT
Actually think these groups ended up working well, no dead rubbers I believe, worth another go next year,
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Post by thehermit on Jun 18, 2023 19:48:24 GMT
There's an old adage about time and making fools.
Well I tell ya what I never thought I'd live to be in the pub raising a glass to the Cork footballers!!!
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Post by backothehill on Jun 18, 2023 20:02:24 GMT
On an aside! David Clifford was taken off with 20 minutes to go after a sublime display and took his seat in the stand with the Kerry subs. Crowds of kids started to gather in front of the stand waiting for game to end to try get to David. Many of these kids had Louth jerseys on them. The game still had a long way to go and the Gardai went up to escort David to the dressing room. He seemed like he wanted to stay but went with the Gardai. I have never in my life seen that with a gaa player. He is probably the biggest superstar in the gaa ever and the one real star since Joe Canning. Maybe Kerry management made the call but it was another crazy moment in a most enjoyable day. The standing ovation David got when substituted was amazing. Senior Louth men around me were saying they had never seen the like of David Clifford and it was worth the journey to witness his play, even though their own team got a caning. Billy O'Shea highlighted it during his post match summary, how he felt privileged to witness the reception David got. I was talking to a guard afterwards at the junction 17 food court and he said the super was worried that if the amount of children enjoying themselves on the field at half time was anything to go by then he was worried about a crush towards David at the final whistle. He said it would only take one child to fall. It was something to witness. Well played Kerry, no player gave less than 100%. It was a badly needed performance for the team and supporters.
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Post by diego on Jun 18, 2023 20:05:58 GMT
Yes my mistake I swore Sunday sport said Galway were straight through. Sunday sport did say Galway were through to quarter final. Rté commentator and Cora Staunton said it as did Des Cahill. I was in the car with my sons saying sure it's only Galway and Armagh on 4pts and Armagh have the head to head record. It was only when I arrive home I heard Armagh topped group. At least 3 of them in tre spirt did nt know the rules. This doesn't surprise me for RTE Radio in general and Des Cahill in particular.
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