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Post by The16thMan on Apr 22, 2023 19:47:04 GMT
So it's a Kerry v Clare Munster final, 1st Kerry v Clare final since 2000 and 1st Munster Final for Clare since 2012. Even though Kerry will be hot favourites I think Kerry will get a good test for 45/50 minutes from Clare. In fairness to Clare they've been very competitive in the past few years under Colm Collins' stewardship. After getting unluckily relegated from Division 2 they've bounced back in 2 tough games against Cork and Limerick to reach the Munster Final and more importantly for them the Round-Robin for Sam Maguire. Kerry can expect a good game and they'll have a hard job keeping Keelan Sexton quiet on the day. Must say I'm looking forward now to the Munster Final a lot more than last year against Limerick.
(95% chance venue will be Limerick, I'll update the title when this is confirmed).
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Post by Jo90 on Apr 22, 2023 20:26:03 GMT
Yeah, glad it's Clare and not Cork. Kerry will get a good test from Clare, while I would have expected a scoreline similar to 2021 v Cork.
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Post by thehermit on Apr 23, 2023 8:44:55 GMT
When will the Munster Council clarify time/venue does anyone know?
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Post by The16thMan on Apr 23, 2023 8:56:45 GMT
When will the Munster Council clarify time/venue does anyone know? I'd assume by Monday evening, usually the case.
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Post by mossie on Apr 23, 2023 12:22:57 GMT
Ennis has a capacity of 18k
This is probably big enough to hold the crowd
I cant see more than that attending
Clare are pushing for Ennis as the venue
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Post by peanuts on Apr 23, 2023 12:49:24 GMT
I wonder why the home & away arrangement doesn’t extend to Munster finals. Is it because Clare didn’t want it to or that Munster council wouldn’t allow it for capacity issues. I can’t imagine Kerry not agreeing to it as they do with other counties.
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Post by The16thMan on Apr 23, 2023 13:32:58 GMT
Seems to be a precedence set now that Countys are trying to get Kerry to change the mind of the CCCC... I wouldn't have an issue with the venue being changed as I don't see more than 5,000 Kerry supporters travelling to Limerick or Ennis anyways, regardless of the venue. I would just hope that it is resolved quickly rather than it dragging on like the Pairc Ui Rinn saga did last year. Especially with the fact we've only 2 weeks until the game.
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Post by Jo90 on Apr 23, 2023 13:42:16 GMT
The last 4 Munster Finals with Clare have been held in Limerick - 2012, 2000, 1997 and 1992.
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Post by Kingdomson on Apr 23, 2023 13:47:15 GMT
I hope Clare get their wish and the game is on in Ennis. The bigger the test for Kerry the better. Bring it on.
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Post by Jo90 on Apr 23, 2023 14:11:13 GMT
I hope Clare get their wish and the game is on in Ennis. The bigger the test for Kerry the better. Bring it on. Ditto. The last Clare Munster Final in 2012 v Cork in Limerick had 9000 at it. It made sense during the knockout era to move Clare Munster Finals to Limerick but not during backdoor era and even less sense now with the round robin and Clare secured their spot in Sam.
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Post by Kerryman Randy Savage on Apr 23, 2023 14:20:52 GMT
I think having the game in Ennis would make it a sterner test which Kerry would need. It would be disappointing that Clare would push for it only where it would benefit them now. Would they be the same if it was in Killarney next. I imagine it's pub talk and people won't sully Clare's reputation. Had Clare pushed for it pre championship I'd have agreed 100% with them. I hope Clare GAA aren't as pathetic as Cork GAA were last year.
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Post by Premier on Apr 23, 2023 15:47:54 GMT
Interesting that Kerry let many of their players play today in the county league. So far I’ve seen Greg horan, Dylan Casey, Ruairi Murphy, Begley, Donal down, 2 Spillane’s, Gavin Crowley all play. Any other word in who played or how they got on?
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Post by mossie on Apr 23, 2023 15:51:18 GMT
Kerry and Clare have a home and away arrangement so let Clare play in Ennis. Munster finals should nt make a difference in the interest of fairness The munster council have been very biased against the other 4 football counties over the years favouring Kerry and Cork with the seeding process. This was done for monetary gains as a Kerry /Cork final could sell tickets at a much higher price than a first round or semi final clash. In the interest of fair play it should be Clare s choice. Kerry would nt have a problem with it I would think. In the long run Ennis is in Kerry interest too Tougher test for the team and the next kerry v clare munster football final would then be in Killarney
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Post by mossie on Apr 23, 2023 15:52:08 GMT
Interesting that Kerry let many of their players play today in the county league. So far I’ve seen Greg horan, Dylan Casey, Ruairi Murphy, Begley, Donal down, 2 Spillane’s, Gavin Crowley all play. Any other word in who played or how they got on? I am glad to hear that, it makes sense , well done Jack
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Post by thehermit on Apr 23, 2023 20:20:07 GMT
Ennis? FFS a bloody pain in the butt to drive in and out of, give me Limerick any day!
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Post by shannonsider on Apr 23, 2023 20:47:43 GMT
I'd agree with playing it in Ennis - would be a better atmosphere, better test and most importantly, it wouldn't be in a 3/4 empty Gaelic Grounds which is NOT a great location for a match by any stretch. Now that being said, Cusack park is a bit of a dump. The pitch looks in great condition though.
I fully expect the game to be fixed for Limerick knowing the way these things go but maybe it will be one of the rare occasions in the GAA where some progressive action is taken. A full Cusack park for a Munster football final would do wonders for Clare football. And we should be beating them regardless of location.
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Post by Joxer on Apr 23, 2023 21:26:29 GMT
In principal, no issue with playing in Ennis….but it’s a kip of a ground and unsuited imo for a Munster final. For H&S reasons alone, I assume Limerick will be the venue.
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Post by The16thMan on Apr 23, 2023 21:27:17 GMT
Apparently Kerry are pro the idea of having the game in Ennis, I assume for the same reasons they wanted to play Cork in Páirc Uí Rinn last year
Source: Clare Echo
INFORMAL TALKS are ongoing between high-ranking board officials in Clare and Kerry about the possibility of Cusack Park hosting the Munster SFC final.
For the first time since 2000, Clare and Kerry will face off in the provincial final. On that occasion, 23,176 spectators attended the game at the Gaelic Grounds which has already been tipped as the venue for the Munster Final scheduled to take place on May 7th.
Administrators in both counties believe that the prospects of hosting the game in Cusack Park will attract a far greater crowd and atmosphere than if the tie was to be held in Limerick. The figure of 10,000 has been floated about as an estimated attendance for the final were it to go ahead in the Gaelic Grounds.
The Clare Echo has learned that senior officials in Clare GAA made contact with high-ranking officers on the Kerry County Board in the hours following Clare’s three point semi-final win over Limerick on Saturday evening.
Officials in the Kingdom are amenable to the idea with discussions expected to progress over the coming days.
Cusack Park has a capacity of 18,500 and officers believe a full house would be the outcome if it got to host a first Munster senior football final since 1919. The potential economic boost that Ennis has experienced from home ties in the Munster SHC is to be referenced when Clare GAA officials put a case to the provincial body. 17,971 attended the first round Munster SHC clash in Ennis on Sunday between Clare and Tipperary.
Shy of 15,000 people attended last year’s provincial decider at Fitzgerald Stadium when Kerry won their second Munster title in a row defeating Limerick.
A decision on where the game takes place will ultimately be made by the Munster Council but a united front from County Boards in Clare and Kerry could have some sway to seeing Cusack Park fixed as the venue.
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Post by Whosinmidfield on Apr 23, 2023 21:44:52 GMT
We should go to Ennis for this one and include finals in the home and away agreement. This way we gain more Munster finals for Killarney rather than going to Limerick every time Clare reach the final. Makes sense to me.
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Post by john4 on Apr 24, 2023 9:18:42 GMT
I'd have no objection to Ennis.
We can't continue to bemoan the demise of the Munster championship without the challenging counties being given the opportunity to host a special day in the football calendar which hopefully will inspire the younger generation of footballers of Clare and counties similar to pursue their football as opposed to hurling.
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Post by royalkerryfan on Apr 24, 2023 9:30:34 GMT
I'd have no objection to Ennis. We can't continue to bemoan the demise of the Munster championship without the challenging counties being given the opportunity to host a special day in the football calendar which hopefully will inspire the younger generation of footballers of Clare and counties similar to pursue their football as opposed to hurling. Absolutely agree John, Let's play them in Ennis and make it as competitive as possible.
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Post by tpo on Apr 24, 2023 9:32:34 GMT
I'd have no objection to Ennis, provided the next Kerry V Clare Munster Final is in Killarney
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Post by The16thMan on Apr 24, 2023 17:42:03 GMT
Word is Munster Council to set venue tomorrow, hopefully we'll be able to focus on the football after that and there won't be any further requests. Fingers crossed
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Post by homerj on Apr 25, 2023 14:13:22 GMT
a key point here is draw for groups is on may 2nd. you could have a scenario where Clare know losing this game, gives them an easier path to all ireland 1/4 final. this applies of course to all 8 finalists, not just clare but certainly the 3 so called underdogs may end up having no interest in winning this game.
its absolutely mental what could happen.
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Post by dc84 on Apr 25, 2023 14:26:29 GMT
Id say clare would happily exit the all ireland straight away if it meant beating kerry and wining munster! Same for sligo probably down and whomever in leinster imo
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Post by jerryewe on Apr 25, 2023 14:58:21 GMT
a key point here is draw for groups is on may 2nd. you could have a scenario where Clare know losing this game, gives them an easier path to all ireland 1/4 final. this applies of course to all 8 finalists, not just clare but certainly the 3 so called underdogs may end up having no interest in winning this game. its absolutely mental what could happen. I don't think that applies to Clare in any way (or the other underdogs in Connacht & Leinster for that matter). These teams are not really serious contenders for an All-Ireland so possibly progressing to last 12 or 8 is much lower on their priority list than having a good rattle at a provincial final which they don't often reach. You do have a point when it comes to a scenario where 2 teams who have won a lot of provincial titles and have serious All-Ireland aspirations are meeting in a provincial final. For example if it was a Galway V Mayo Connacht final I could see either of those teams taking the long view instead of going all out to win a provincial championship. Writing this, it strikes me that it's not the underdogs who might be trying to lose (for want of a better phrase) but the favorites like Dublin & Kerry for whom a provincial title means nothing in the grand scheme of things.
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Post by homerj on Apr 25, 2023 15:03:23 GMT
Id say clare would happily exit the all ireland straight away if it meant beating kerry and wining munster! Same for sligo probably down and whomever in leinster imo doubt it. they could reach a 1/4 final by beating cork or westmeath.
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Post by jerryewe on Apr 25, 2023 15:21:53 GMT
Id say clare would happily exit the all ireland straight away if it meant beating kerry and wining munster! Same for sligo probably down and whomever in leinster imo doubt it. they could reach a 1/4 final by beating cork or westmeath. Clare have reached 2 quarters finals in the last 10 years including last year. They haven't played in a Munster final since 2012. A Munster championship will be a much greater achievement for them than another quarter final exit so don't think they will be paying much attention to which draw is easier or harder for them.
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Post by dc84 on Apr 25, 2023 15:54:50 GMT
Id say clare would happily exit the all ireland straight away if it meant beating kerry and wining munster! Same for sligo probably down and whomever in leinster imo doubt it. they could reach a 1/4 final by beating cork or westmeath. Really you think clare would rather reach another quarter rather than win a provincial and beat kerry for first time in 30 years?
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Post by edgeofthesquare on Apr 25, 2023 16:02:53 GMT
Id say clare would happily exit the all ireland straight away if it meant beating kerry and wining munster! Same for sligo probably down and whomever in leinster imo doubt it. they could reach a 1/4 final by beating cork or westmeath. The teams that come 3rd in their group go into a preliminary quarter final against a 2nd placed team to qualify for a quarter final. I think the 2nd place team might have home advantage too although I’m not certain on that.
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