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Post by percentageplay on May 3, 2023 7:26:34 GMT
If Clare ever needed some motivation for this clash they are being handed it in spades since 1pm yesterday. Between commentators/pundits, media and social media it's as if Kerry are already Munster Champs and preparing for Mayo in Killarney. I know it would be a major upset if Clare came out on top but any given Sunday as they say. Strangely enough there seems to be more caution surrounding confirming the Dubs are Leinster champs prior to their match with Louth.
Hopefully it will be good performance by Kerry this weekend with good attacking structure on show.
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Post by hurlingman on May 3, 2023 7:51:13 GMT
€35 is a bit steep for a game like this, esp given the new Championship format, don't you think? Can't remember what I paid for the Limerick game last year, I assume similar? But given the new format you'd wonder about the ticket pricing for provincial championships going forward considering provincial finals, esp in Munster and Leinster, have lost their luster and we now have to fork out for so many more games in the All Ireland. In a given year now you'll be paying for 3 groups games, possibly a preliminary Q-final and then three more games after all going well. Potentially 7 games on the back of 2-3 provincial games and 7 League matches. I wonder what the pricing format will be for these new groups games but you'd have to hope the GAA sees since and doesn't take the pi$$. I'd suspect the attendance for Sunday will suffer given the pricing and the knowledge that Kerry fans have so many other games to be going to over the next month and a half. Ticket prices are really getting out of hand. €20 for the semi final and €35 for the final. Will the group games be more again?
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Post by thehermit on May 3, 2023 8:50:50 GMT
If Clare ever needed some motivation for this clash they are being handed it in spades since 1pm yesterday. Between commentators/pundits, media and social media it's as if Kerry are already Munster Champs and preparing for Mayo in Killarney. I know it would be a major upset if Clare came out on top but any given Sunday as they say. Strangely enough there seems to be more caution surrounding confirming the Dubs are Leinster champs prior to their match with Louth. Hopefully it will be good performance by Kerry this weekend with good attacking structure on show. Yeah expect Clare to give us a tough game, at least for 60minutes. Its also what we need if we will be welcoming a Mayo team that's had 5 weeks to ponder what went wrong for them and reignite their own campaign.
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Post by The16thMan on May 3, 2023 12:12:03 GMT
€35 is a bit steep for a game like this, esp given the new Championship format, don't you think? Can't remember what I paid for the Limerick game last year, I assume similar? But given the new format you'd wonder about the ticket pricing for provincial championships going forward considering provincial finals, esp in Munster and Leinster, have lost their luster and we now have to fork out for so many more games in the All Ireland. In a given year now you'll be paying for 3 groups games, possibly a preliminary Q-final and then three more games after all going well. Potentially 7 games on the back of 2-3 provincial games and 7 League matches. I wonder what the pricing format will be for these new groups games but you'd have to hope the GAA sees since and doesn't take the pi$$. I'd suspect the attendance for Sunday will suffer given the pricing and the knowledge that Kerry fans have so many other games to be going to over the next month and a half. Ticket prices are really getting out of hand. €20 for the semi final and €35 for the final. Will the group games be more again? €35 is quiet expensive but strangely it is actually a decrease of €40 for last years Munster Final. The attendance of below 15k for last years final is what would have dictated this. It is still expensive of course but the Munster Councils argument would be It's their football showpiece for the year. I'd expect the group games to be slightly cheaper. It's the provincial councils that set prices for tickets for provincial championships, not the GAA. I'd guess a price of around €25 per game for Round Robin. The prices then to probably increase to €35-€50 for Quarters and Semis in Croke Park prior to All Ireland Final.
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Post by thehermit on May 3, 2023 19:26:56 GMT
Yeah €25 wouldn't be too bad and you'd hope wherever Kerry's neutral game was the location would take into account the commute for both counties supporters. Croker, for example, would be a fair trek for those coming from home whereas (if we do meet Louth) its just next door for them and they'd have a rail line straight into Connolly that would get them there within an hour!
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Post by homerj on May 3, 2023 20:40:21 GMT
The group stages, is it head to head that would determine top spot?
If we were to beat clare and then win our home and away game, would that guarantee top spot meaning the neutral game would be dead rubber for us?
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Post by horsebox77 on May 3, 2023 21:31:35 GMT
Talking to a lot of lads who go to games, many aren't travelling on Sunday, mainly due to parking, gate cost, the fact that we have three games coming in quick succession that on paper are more attractive and the back up plan of the game being live on the box...
They make compelling arguments.
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Post by royalkerryfan on May 3, 2023 22:00:11 GMT
Talking to a lot of lads who go to games, many aren't travelling on Sunday, mainly due to parking, gate cost, the fact that we have three games coming in quick succession that on paper are more attractive and the back up plan of the game being live on the box... They make compelling arguments. I must say I'm in that bracket, I'm 50/50, A 5 hour round trip to a half empty stadium. With a potential trip to Killarney 2 weeks later as an overnight trip stretches the budget.
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Post by mike70 on May 4, 2023 5:07:24 GMT
Looking ahead to the game, not much change in personnel I would assume, appreciate a few players returning to fitness, but will be held in reserve.
Bookies have the handicap at -12, kerry in full flow for sure would smash this, but I expect a stiff game from Clare.
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Post by horsebox77 on May 4, 2023 7:02:23 GMT
Talking to a lot of lads who go to games, many aren't travelling on Sunday, mainly due to parking, gate cost, the fact that we have three games coming in quick succession that on paper are more attractive and the back up plan of the game being live on the box... They make compelling arguments. I must say I'm in that bracket, I'm 50/50, A 5 hour round trip to a half empty stadium. With a potential trip to Killarney 2 weeks later as an overnight trip stretches the budget. I'm the same myself, hard to justify, although I'm lucky that I'm north of center and only an hour from Limerick, Ironically enough, if it was Ennis, I'd probably head up no questions, I just think this will be a flat atmosphere, with pockets of supporters dotted in a quarter full capacity stadium.
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Post by thehermit on May 4, 2023 8:00:42 GMT
Well there I was Horse all looking forward to the match build up and you've got me wondering now what's the point of even turning up
Sure we'll head along anyway and give them our support. First opportunity to win some silverware this year and hopefully give us good momentum for another big test in two weeks time.
Is the team being named tonight?
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Post by thehermit on May 4, 2023 14:24:44 GMT
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Post by thehermit on May 4, 2023 19:04:16 GMT
Team's in:
1 (GK) Shane Ryan Seán Ó Riain Rath Mhór 2 Dylan Casey Dylan Ó Cathasaigh Aibhistín de Staic 3 Jason Foley Jason Ó Foghlú Baile Uí Donnachú 4 Tom O’Sullivan Tomás Ó Súilleabháin Daingean Uí Chúis 5 Graham O’Sullivan Graeme Ó Súilleabháin Piarsaigh na Dromoda 6 Tadhg Morley Tadhg Ó Muraile Teampall Nua 7 Gavin White Gabhin de Faoite Dr Crócaigh 8 Diarmuid O’Connor Diarmuid Ó Conchúir Na Gaeil 9 Jack Barry Jeaic de Barra Na Gaeil 10 Dara Moynihan Dara Ó Muineacháin Spa Cill Airne 11 Seán O’Shea Seán Ó Sé An Neidín 12 Paudie Clifford Pádraig Ó Clumháin Fosadh 13 Tony Brosnan Antóin Ó Brosnacháin Dr Crócaigh 14 David Clifford Daithí Ó Clúmháin Fosadh 15 Paul Geaney Pól Ó Géibheannaigh Daingean Uí Chúis 16 (GK) Shane Murphy Seán Ó Murchú Dr Crócaigh 17 Brian Ó Beaglaoich Brian Ó Beaglaoich An Ghaeltacht 18 Adrian Spillane Adrian Ó Spealáin Teampall Nua 19 Barry Dan O’Sullivan Barra Ó Súilleabháin Daingean Uí Chúis 20 Ruairi Murphy Ruairí Ó Murchú Lios A’Troí 21 Killian Spillane Cillian Ó Spealáin Teampall Nua 22 Micheál Burns Micheál Ó Broin Dr Crócaigh 23 Mike Breen Micheál Ó Braoin Lios an Phúca 24 Stephen O’Brien Stiofán Ó Briain An Neidín 25 Pa Warren Pádraig Warren Gniomh Go Leith 26 Dylan Geaney Dylan Ó Géibheannaigh Daingean Uí Chúis
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Post by john4 on May 4, 2023 19:04:45 GMT
Dylan Geaney has made the 26. Good for him.
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Post by mike70 on May 4, 2023 19:18:52 GMT
As expected I guess.
Well done to Dylan geaney making match day panel.
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Post by thehermit on May 4, 2023 19:25:18 GMT
Where's Paul Murphy though?
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Post by mossie on May 4, 2023 19:35:14 GMT
Where's Paul Murphy though? and Donal Down Sullivan?
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Post by royalkerryfan on May 4, 2023 20:00:49 GMT
Both OSullivan and Murphy must be carrying knocks.
I'd have concerns over that HF line and would prefer to see Spillane in there for physicality.
IF we end up against Mayo or the other group the HF line won't be big enough in my opinion.
Anyone else a little worried about impact off the bench ?
Delighted to see Dylan Casey get a start he is more than capable.
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Post by peanuts on May 4, 2023 20:38:26 GMT
Both OSullivan and Murphy must be carrying knocks. I'd have concerns over that HF line and would prefer to see Spillane in there for physicality. IF we end up against Mayo or the other group the HF line won't be big enough in my opinion. Anyone else a little worried about impact off the bench ? Delighted to see Dylan Casey get a start he is more than capable. Brian Ó Beaglaoich, O’Brien and the 2 Spillanes should give decent impact as well as others
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Post by royalkerryfan on May 4, 2023 20:45:49 GMT
Both OSullivan and Murphy must be carrying knocks. I'd have concerns over that HF line and would prefer to see Spillane in there for physicality. IF we end up against Mayo or the other group the HF line won't be big enough in my opinion. Anyone else a little worried about impact off the bench ? Delighted to see Dylan Casey get a start he is more than capable. Brian Ó Beaglaoich, O’Brien and the 2 Spillanes should give decent impact as well as others That's true peanuts.. Must be wearing my pessimistic hat this evening 😅
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Post by horsebox77 on May 4, 2023 20:56:07 GMT
Like the look of that team, am a bit surprised that Casey is in ahead of Brión O'Beagleoich, would have actually preferred for Graham to stay in the corner and instead, release Tom Sullivan to the wing.
However, its had to argue, I actually rate the Austin Stacks man..
I too have reservations on the physicality of our half line, however, Graham in for Murphy does eradicate one aspect of that argument.
Very string bench, but looking down the tracks, if drawn against Mayo, we may require a more physical approach, unless Jack intends to attack the flanks with pace.
I think too Casey's selection is one looking ahead, his physicality may be ideal for one Aidan O'Shea,,, maybe his selection is not as much a surprise if one considers that aspect of the argument.
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Post by The16thMan on May 4, 2023 22:13:04 GMT
My guess regarding Casey is he must be showing the goods in training. He is very capable in the full back line and it's good for him to get his 1st Championship start. Graham is probably more known now going forward than man marking so it doesn't change his role much.
What I will say about Casey is last year he got a roasting from McCurry in Killarney but it was a real baptism of fire but he then came on at half time up in Castlebar vs Mayo when we were 11 points down and took Aidan O'Shea (who was running riot in that first half) and marked him out of the game for the 2nd half and dominated him physically and stuck to the task well.
I would like to see a bit more from him and Sunday will now be his chance. Good to see that show of faith from Jack. This is what we need to do, progress fellas onto the team even whilst we are winning.
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Post by greengold35 on May 5, 2023 9:43:10 GMT
Like the look of that team, am a bit surprised that Casey is in ahead of Brión O'Beagleoich, would have actually preferred for Graham to stay in the corner and instead, release Tom Sullivan to the wing. However, its had to argue, I actually rate the Austin Stacks man.. I too have reservations on the physicality of our half line, however, Graham in for Murphy does eradicate one aspect of that argument. Very string bench, but looking down the tracks, if drawn against Mayo, we may require a more physical approach, unless Jack intends to attack the flanks with pace. I think too Casey's selection is one looking ahead, his physicality may be ideal for one Aidan O'Shea,,, maybe his selection is not as much a surprise if one considers that aspect of the argument. O’Beaglaoich is certainly lacking match practice & has been absent for a long while - would expect that he won’t be risked until later in the year. Likewise, Stephen O’Brien, who has probably no more than 50 mins in him - my worry is Killian Spillane who seems to have dropped well down the pecking order - hope to be proved wrong, but Brosnan for me, doesn’t do it when the chips are down.
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Post by An Ciarraíoch Taistealaíoch on May 5, 2023 10:48:27 GMT
Like the look of that team, am a bit surprised that Casey is in ahead of Brión O'Beagleoich, would have actually preferred for Graham to stay in the corner and instead, release Tom Sullivan to the wing. However, its had to argue, I actually rate the Austin Stacks man.. I too have reservations on the physicality of our half line, however, Graham in for Murphy does eradicate one aspect of that argument. Very string bench, but looking down the tracks, if drawn against Mayo, we may require a more physical approach, unless Jack intends to attack the flanks with pace. I think too Casey's selection is one looking ahead, his physicality may be ideal for one Aidan O'Shea,,, maybe his selection is not as much a surprise if one considers that aspect of the argument. I am also surprised that Casey is starting but I presume he is showing the goods inside as another poster has said (or its part of a bigger plan). You mentioned his physicality, what sized man is he? In my head he's around the 6foot mark. I know there is more to physicality than height but I am curious.
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Post by horsebox77 on May 5, 2023 12:18:01 GMT
Seeing Casey after games, I'd imagine he's six foot if not an inch above, but that would be max, he isn't over six one.
He is solid, he strong, broad enough, would be physically capable.
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Post by mike70 on May 5, 2023 19:17:31 GMT
Like the look of that team, am a bit surprised that Casey is in ahead of Brión O'Beagleoich, would have actually preferred for Graham to stay in the corner and instead, release Tom Sullivan to the wing. However, its had to argue, I actually rate the Austin Stacks man.. I too have reservations on the physicality of our half line, however, Graham in for Murphy does eradicate one aspect of that argument. Very string bench, but looking down the tracks, if drawn against Mayo, we may require a more physical approach, unless Jack intends to attack the flanks with pace. I think too Casey's selection is one looking ahead, his physicality may be ideal for one Aidan O'Shea,,, maybe his selection is not as much a surprise if one considers that aspect of the argument. I am also surprised that Casey is starting but I presume he is showing the goods inside as another poster has said (or its part of a bigger plan). You mentioned his physicality, what sized man is he? In my head he's around the 6foot mark. I know there is more to physicality than height but I am curious. lads casey selection is dictated by injuries, in time both murphy and o beaglaoi will be ahead of him in selection, but he is fit and ready so deserves his run, let’s hope he does ok, good to get some experience.
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Post by royalkerryfan on May 5, 2023 20:43:38 GMT
Looks like a wet miserable day on Sunday.
Hopefully we get through this without any injuries.
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Post by clarinman on May 5, 2023 22:03:46 GMT
I am also surprised that Casey is starting but I presume he is showing the goods inside as another poster has said (or its part of a bigger plan). You mentioned his physicality, what sized man is he? In my head he's around the 6foot mark. I know there is more to physicality than height but I am curious. lads casey selection is dictated by injuries, in time both murphy and o beaglaoi will be ahead of him in selection, but he is fit and ready so deserves his run, let’s hope he does ok, good to get some experience. Or maybe it's looking ahead to the Mayo game. Graham has struggled against James Carr the last 3 times we have played them.
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Post by john4 on May 5, 2023 22:10:53 GMT
I am also surprised that Casey is starting but I presume he is showing the goods inside as another poster has said (or its part of a bigger plan). You mentioned his physicality, what sized man is he? In my head he's around the 6foot mark. I know there is more to physicality than height but I am curious. lads casey selection is dictated by injuries, in time both murphy and o beaglaoi will be ahead of him in selection, but he is fit and ready so deserves his run, let’s hope he does ok, good to get some experience. I made this point before the All Ireland final last year that we went into that match with defenders on the subs who had never played a minute of Championship football. This scenario shouldn't happen again ideally. We have championship matches coming up where we realistically will have opportunities to lengthen the list of players with championship experience and Sunday is one of those opportunities. Dylan will get on fine @ 2
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Post by oldschool on May 6, 2023 9:36:36 GMT
No room for Adrian Spillane Has Paul Geaney performed well lately?…
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