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Post by kerrybhoy06 on Aug 12, 2022 16:28:54 GMT
Martin Brehany has said this team will be a flop if they dont win more all irelands. Sam only home 3 weeks and already at this sh*t. no other county has to put up with this rubbish. Long intercounty off season leaves a lot of column inches to be filled. The unfortunate part is that they must be filled
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Post by breadwinner on Aug 12, 2022 17:42:19 GMT
POI. in that game in tralee ryan o donoghue scored 1 mark and 6 from frees, none from play. Tom Sullivan is the best man marker we have.swapping him off walsh could have made a bad situation worse. My memory of that game in Tralee is that a lot of the frees Ryan O’Donoghue converted were due to fouls Tom committed on him. Of course , you could be right when you say switching Tom off Shane Walsh may have made a bad situation worse. We will never know.. My point in starting this discussion was the likely furore which would have ensued over the non switch in the event of Kerry losing. Others have raised a similar point over the freedom Cillian McDaid enjoyed. As Clarinman has pointed out, Ciarraimick is wrong to imply that the Derry lad engaged in “rough play “ against Shane. He beat him with pure football. Maybe 1 or 2 tis true. i think win or lose he was our best option, white only other fella would have stood a chance but may have been lost in the full back line. Walsh against derry did get some rough treatment but nothing other than would be expected in an ireland semi-final. His issue is he blows hot and cold, had an unbelievable allireland final but probably wont have as good a game again for another 12 months or maybe longer. But when he hits form as he did on the 24th July he is unmarkable. 4 pts from play wasnt too bad by tom in the finish. As stated mcdaid ran riot and scored as much.
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Post by kot on Aug 12, 2022 17:46:11 GMT
Martin Brehany has said this team will be a flop if they dont win more all irelands. Sam only home 3 weeks and already at this sh*t. no other county has to put up with this rubbish. Martin Breheny wrote a list of the 5 worst All Ireland Final, 4 were wins for Kerry.
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Post by homerj on Aug 12, 2022 19:11:42 GMT
Martin Brehany has said this team will be a flop if they dont win more all irelands. Sam only home 3 weeks and already at this sh*t. no other county has to put up with this rubbish. Martin Breheny wrote a list of the 5 worst All Ireland Final, 4 were wins for Kerry. True. And left out such terrible games such as the 2010 final. His Hatred of us is quite amusing.
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Post by Annascaultilidie on Aug 12, 2022 19:48:55 GMT
Martin Brehany has said this team will be a flop if they dont win more all irelands. Sam only home 3 weeks and already at this sh*t. no other county has to put up with this rubbish. Martin Breheny wrote a list of the 5 worst All Ireland Final, 4 were wins for Kerry. And he had Kerry losing in three or four of the best 🙄
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Post by blacksheep21 on Aug 12, 2022 20:27:30 GMT
I love how much Kerry’s success winds the likes of Breheny up
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Post by Mickmack on Aug 12, 2022 21:47:45 GMT
In fairness it was great to see Kerry actually winning a great final.
We tend to lose those.
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Post by kingdomofciar on Aug 13, 2022 11:29:43 GMT
I love how much Kerry’s success winds the likes of Breheny up
I love this also.....
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Post by Mickmack on Aug 13, 2022 12:08:20 GMT
I think we might be over sensitive. Kerry get plenty of credit but we seem very sensitive to some not hailing us all the time. Kerry have been involved in more finals than any county and the facts are when a team win easily like Kerry have done on many occasions like Dubs 78 79 Mayo 04 06 and Cork 07 the final is boring for the neutrals. On the flip side Kerry have lost a few close finals like 82 02 05 08 11 so they would be enthralling games for the neutral. This year's final got great praise becausr it was in the melting pot till the last minute. Let's enjoy our win and not take things too personal. Breheny gave us fair warning of the threat Galway posed just as he did before Tyrone last year. Most of the finals Kerry won have been won well. We either win well or dont win at all. This years was a great close match....it was an exception. What did Breheny say about this years final....i didnt read any of his article. We have lost some classic finals in fairness ....or drawn them....the 2019 drawn match was a great match. So was the drawn 2000 final.
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Post by blacksheep21 on Aug 13, 2022 12:15:36 GMT
I think we might be over sensitive. Kerry get plenty of credit but we seem very sensitive to some not hailing us all the time. Kerry have been involved in more finals than any county and the facts are when a team win easily like Kerry have done on many occasions like Dubs 78 79 Mayo 04 06 and Cork 07 the final is boring for the neutrals. On the flip side Kerry have lost a few close finals like 82 02 05 08 11 so they would be enthralling games for the neutral. This year's final got great praise becausr it was in the melting pot till the last minute. Let's enjoy our win and not take things too personal. I am enjoying the win alright, don’t worry about that. Fair play to Breheny for making a living writing this stuff. When Kilkenny destroyed Waterford in 2008, they were lauded, yet Kerry doing similar in 2007 and 2006 was regarded as a lesser all Ireland
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Post by Mickmack on Aug 13, 2022 12:16:06 GMT
I lost a bit of respect for Breheny that time that the Galway hurlers voted no confidence in Anthony Cunningham. He really put the knife into the players. Cunningham didnt seem to see obvious problems unfolding before his eyes in a few big games v Kilkenny.
When Liam McCarthy went west under the next ....far shrewder manager...Breheny stayed silent on whether the players were vindicated.
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Post by blacksheep21 on Aug 13, 2022 12:18:31 GMT
I lost a bit of respect for Breheny that time that the Galway hurlers voted no confidence in Anthony Cunningham. He really put the knife into the players. Cunningham didnt seem to see obvious problems unfolding before his eyes in a few big games v Kilkenny. When Liam McCarthy went west under the next ....far shrewder manager...Breheny stayed silent on whether the players were vindicated. He did the same to the Mayo players after their management team were ousted. I think it was Holmes and Connelly?
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Post by Annascaultilidie on Aug 13, 2022 12:33:40 GMT
I have had a whole host of people tell me they were happy to win... including a Corkman.
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Post by Mickmack on Aug 13, 2022 14:09:57 GMT
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Post by Annascaultilidie on Aug 13, 2022 23:35:47 GMT
Martin Breheny wrote a list of the 5 worst All Ireland Final, 4 were wins for Kerry. And he had Kerry losing in three or four of the best 🙄 He put Maurice Fitz #1 in individual All-Ireland performances. The power of Fitz compels you.
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Post by homerj on Aug 14, 2022 20:50:34 GMT
never been there or played on that Kenmare pitch (one of the only few!). do many balls end up going into the sea?
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Post by Ballyfireside on Aug 14, 2022 21:24:55 GMT
never been there or played on that Kenmare pitch (one of the only few!). do many balls end up going into the sea? Awesome! Hey, here's a project for some young laddo among us - a thread on unique GAA pitches. To get ye started, Killybegs, breath taking like Kenmare and of which I never knew - with all the auld talk how come PatS didn't plug that one? People would go for the view alone, what a lovely evening it would make while on a holiday and to meet PatS! Probably the most unique of all is next door to Wormwood Scrubs in London, Fulham GAA Club? Remember said PatS story of Templenoe's trip to the big smoke, they played a game on Sunday there and during proceedings, what with all the hangover interplay roaring didn't an inmate roar out 'hey Paddy, ye better go home as the neighbour is in bed with your wife' and to which an honest to God, hands on hips, Kenmare man replied 'at least I know it's not you, you limey b0llix' - PS re the language, I'm only quoting said St Patrick! BTW I am after a weekend in the sun here in Donegal and in the company of a few thundering hoors of GAA men like ourselves - seriously, very inspiring and informative chats re 'the match' and as usual things GAA in general, no bother sharing stuff, they are bigger than that though they'd be cute hoors too, definitely have a different angle on things and which at times can be baffling, in a nice kind of way. They take it seriously but not themselves - what a trait! If you had a few of them on here the learning would increase dramatically, if only by contrast. Two comments re David Clifford, though contradicting each other, told me a lot, really had me thinking. And before anyone thinks I'm going soft in the head, well any softer than I already am, they believe they can do it soon, all the suspects do - now that's not the same as them saying it and yes, plenty of auld cute hoorism like ourselves too, ah great spirit. I'd often throw a spanner in the works too and they wouldn't let you off with an inch if they thought you were at it. They'd say PatS is forgiven but I'd say more forgotten - I'd often traipse over to Healey Park and the women are on par with the bucks, great interest, makes up a bit for not living in Kerry I suppose, maybe I appreciate it more when I see our boys in the flesh! A chapter for John Moriarty and Nóstos if we had our time back again, meanwhile I'll have to make do with my own HomePlace, Ballythefireside - ah where would you want to be? P.S. MOM would have a great word on John Moriarty and who is Kerry's James Joyce, maybe another Peig - amazing, or not, but he is unknown of in Kerry yet he is famous elsewhere, born in South Kerry, reared in Moyvane where his father acquired a small farm, lived out his years at the foot of Mangerton - good stuff with Tommy Tiernan on YouTube. It is a kind of pursuit that will bore you until it bores a hole right through you - like a fisherman's knot, the harder you stress it the tighter it gets!
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Post by horsebox77 on Aug 14, 2022 21:39:02 GMT
never been there or played on that Kenmare pitch (one of the only few!). do many balls end up going into the sea? Awesome! Hey, here's a project for some young laddo among us - a thread on unique gaa pitches Actually, one thread I’d love to see is why our clubs have the affiliated colours
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Post by Ballyfireside on Aug 14, 2022 22:20:21 GMT
Awesome! Hey, here's a project for some young laddo among us - a thread on unique gaa pitches Actually, one thread I’d love to see is why our clubs have the affiliated colours Brill - copy MTU Sports Dept! Did Shannon Rangers blue have to do with, well blue sea/water? Kerry green = rural and gold = winners - I'm not trying to bluff, not that you'd get away with much on here, just throwing a sprats? Tres tres interesting there horse - P.S. I've been here before so a word of advice, there are no 'black and whites', and don't ask about puns - take a big step back here. My experience was a work in progress poem Joyful Sorrowful Mystery - The magpie not be so strange as how many crisscross mine mind's hearts eye. Now Vet, that's Artificial intelligence for you, Machine Intelligence. Hey, we waz at a game of a day, back in college days, and yes alcohol had been consumed - didn't we spot a wee lad with a Kerry jersey, and we waz wondering who was so small that played county, - a bespoke jersey, probably fit the bombers ankle if ya with me? The jersey of a feckin hurlin club in was it West Waterford the child told us - served us right, ask a stupid question. Hey, at that time of the day you just didn't think of things like that, and I'm not specifically referring to the hours since out last deoch!
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Post by Mickmack on Aug 15, 2022 15:25:28 GMT
10 points in a row were kicked from play at the start of the second half.
5 points a piece.
I cant ever recall this happening in an All Ireland final.
I put the footage to a famous waltz although in fairness there was less pulling and dragging during that amazing spell of play than you would see in your average waltz!
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Post by clarinman on Aug 15, 2022 19:06:41 GMT
10 points in a row were kicked from play at the start of the second half. 5 points a piece. I cant ever recall this happening in an All Ireland final. I put the footage to a famous waltz although in fairness there was less pulling and dragging during that amazing spell of play than you would see in your average waltz! Thanks for putting that together Mick. If only we could see more of that.
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Post by dano on Aug 19, 2022 18:26:01 GMT
Brilliant footage Mickmack and the classical music to go with the classic it was. A lot will be written between now and the start of proceedings intercounty 2023. Very few commentators will acknowledge the greatness of this Kerry squad. They measure us differently. It matters little to us fans of The Kingdom though when the cup is at home.
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Post by homerj on Aug 19, 2022 20:23:21 GMT
lads, if anybody hasnt seen that paddy tally interview, its available on you tube on the OTB page.
he seems an absolute gentleman but above all else, he knows his stuff. the level of detail he goes into, is incredible.
the most misunderstood man (initially) in our recent history, and without doubt, the best external addition to our coaching panel. the best in the business right now and hopefully stays with us for years.
could have listened to him for 2 or 3 more hours as everything he said, was fascinating. no wonder the players are huge fans
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Post by kerryexile on Aug 20, 2022 0:40:09 GMT
lads, if anybody hasnt seen that paddy tally interview, its available on you tube on the OTB page. he seems an absolute gentleman but above all else, he knows his stuff. the level of detail he goes into, is incredible. the most misunderstood man (initially) in our recent history, and without doubt, the best external addition to our coaching panel. the best in the business right now and hopefully stays with us for years. could have listened to him for 2 or 3 more hours as everything he said, was fascinating. no wonder the players are huge fans I thought the whole thing was run of the mill stuff to be honest. He spoke about Peter Canavan, Marty Clarke and Stephen O'Neill. Other than saying that Jack gave him a free hand on defensive coaching, there was nothing very illuminating. He gave no details about the changes he brought.
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Post by Mickmack on Aug 20, 2022 8:06:01 GMT
lads, if anybody hasnt seen that paddy tally interview, its available on you tube on the OTB page. he seems an absolute gentleman but above all else, he knows his stuff. the level of detail he goes into, is incredible. the most misunderstood man (initially) in our recent history, and without doubt, the best external addition to our coaching panel. the best in the business right now and hopefully stays with us for years. could have listened to him for 2 or 3 more hours as everything he said, was fascinating. no wonder the players are huge fans 100%. If Donie Buckley was the coach, people would be falling over themselves to laud him (and rightly so). Bringing in Paddy Tally and Tony Griffin was a master stroke. A good manager will get the best people in and let them do their jobs. Jack did that and it worked.
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Post by homerj on Aug 20, 2022 10:47:17 GMT
lads, if anybody hasnt seen that paddy tally interview, its available on you tube on the OTB page. he seems an absolute gentleman but above all else, he knows his stuff. the level of detail he goes into, is incredible. the most misunderstood man (initially) in our recent history, and without doubt, the best external addition to our coaching panel. the best in the business right now and hopefully stays with us for years. could have listened to him for 2 or 3 more hours as everything he said, was fascinating. no wonder the players are huge fans I thought the whole thing was run of the mill stuff to be honest. He spoke about Peter Canavan, Marty Clarke and Stephen O'Neill. Other than saying that Jack gave him a free hand on defensive coaching, there was nothing very illuminating. He gave no details about the changes he brought. well hang on, he is not going to give away state secrets now is he. however the type of stuff he did say (introducing blood testing for injury prevention as an example) amongest many other things, was very very interesting to listen to. overall, he seems like a wonderful addition to our backroom team and not once by the way did he mention anything about defensive coaching being down to him, he was coaching the entire team. biggest myth of all is that he is a defensive coach, he isnt.
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Post by Ballyfireside on Aug 30, 2022 16:17:45 GMT
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Post by homerj on Aug 30, 2022 17:17:13 GMT
Paywall - not interested in his Micko v Gavin, but what 15 did he pick as all stars?
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Post by Kerryman Randy Savage on Aug 30, 2022 18:15:03 GMT
Paywall - not interested in his Micko v Gavin, but what 15 did he pick as all stars? Don't shoot the messenger "Pat Spillane’s 2022 All-Star Team 1 Shane Ryan (Kerry) 2 Chrissy McKaigue (Derry) 3 Jason Foley (Kerry) 4 Liam Silke (Galway) 5 Lee Keegan (Mayo) 6 Tadgh Morley (Kerry) 7 Gavin White (Kerry) 8 Cillian McDaid (Galway) 9 Rian O’Neill (Armagh) 10 Paudie Clifford (Kerry) 11 Seanie O’Shea (Kerry) 12 Ciarán Kilkenny (Dublin) 13 David Clifford (Kerry) 14 Damien Comer (Galway) 15 Shane Walsh (Galway) And here’s an alternative team that I could make a strong case for 1 Ethan Rafferty (Armagh) 2 Graham O’Sullivan (Kerry) 3 Brendan Rogers (Down) 4 Conor McCluskey (Derry) 5 James McCarthy (Dublin) 6 John Daly (Galway) 7 Jack Glynn (Galway) 8 Diarmuid O’Connor (Kerry) 9 Conor Glass (Derry) 10 Rory Grugan (Armagh) 11 Ethan Doherty (Derry) 12 Stefan Campbell (Armagh) 13 Rob Finnerty (Galway) 14 Keelan Sexton (Clare) 15 Cormac Costello (Dublin)"
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Post by kerrybhoy06 on Aug 30, 2022 19:56:32 GMT
Rian O Neill midfield is a pointless tip of the cap to a buddy of theirs in the media and a patronising attempt to include Armagh because they won a couple of qualifiers.
He doesn’t deserve one and definitely not at midfield.
Lee Keegan is a very odd choice, especially when Daly from Galway was left out
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