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Post by Sons of Pitches on Jul 10, 2022 21:08:47 GMT
Right let's get the ball rolling on this one!
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Post by Annascaultilidie on Jul 10, 2022 22:01:11 GMT
Galway are smart with good footballers. Not a procession.
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Post by Moderator on Jul 10, 2022 22:06:09 GMT
Galway learned defensive toughness under Kevin Walsh, then P Joyce got the forwards going.
Will be a big battle.
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Post by gaelicden on Jul 10, 2022 22:07:58 GMT
If you consider that this iteration of Kerry began in 2018 then our championship record against Galway is poor; Played 1, lost 1.
They are capable so we need to be at our very best. For Gods sake it's a final, Galway aren't there for the craic.
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Post by kot on Jul 10, 2022 22:28:36 GMT
Indeed, any complacency will be punished. They have showed they are no longer soft touches and came through 3 battles where they were asked serious questions of different kinds and always answered. They have a lot of young players who have experience of beating kerry at u21 / 20 so will know no fear. We need to be on from the get go!
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Post by onlykerry on Jul 10, 2022 23:17:47 GMT
I think Jack summed it up well - nobody will remember the SF come Christmas if we fail to beat Galway and Mayo were in this same situation last year - they finally broke the Dublin hoodoo but failed to complete the deal and Tyrone took the honours.
With a quick 2 week gap getting our feet back on the ground and focussing on Galway as a dangerous and capable opponent is imperative.
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Post by The16thMan on Jul 10, 2022 23:35:36 GMT
Is there due to be a curtain raiser for this game?. It doesn't look like there is on the GAA website.
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Post by Kerryman Randy Savage on Jul 11, 2022 0:22:09 GMT
25th Anniversary of the 1997 team so it will be great to see some absolute legends and cheer them at half time.
Also great to be messaging in a thread about Kerry in another AI final. Best of luck lads.
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Post by Ballyfireside on Jul 11, 2022 1:15:02 GMT
Indeed, any complacency will be punished. They have showed they are no longer soft touches and came through 3 battles where they were asked serious questions of different kinds and always answered. They have a lot of young players who have experience of beating kerry at u21 / 20 so will know no fear. We need to be on from the get go! This is a well thought out 'bulls eye' comment, I take back what I may have said elsewhere about a other comment you made, though in fairness, I said what I saw - you're worse than myself ya hoor ya! Jazus had another look - you're a lunatic; welcome to the club!
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Post by john4 on Jul 11, 2022 6:13:11 GMT
We really need to guard against the same mistake that Mayo made last year. After beating Dublin in most dramatic circumstances they probably mentally felt that they had enough done and "deserved" their All-Ireland It doesn't work that way, as they found out. The sports psychology people in the group will have to make sure that the events of yesterday are mentally parked and get the players to focus properly on Galway.
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Post by blacksheep21 on Jul 11, 2022 6:14:59 GMT
Gavin White must be a serious doubt for the final. Paul Murphy I assume will get the nod. Geaney will be under pressure also as will Stephen O Brien. Geaney may hold on but Moynihan and A Spillane will be pushing hard for a spot at wing forward.
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Post by onlykerry on Jul 11, 2022 11:35:09 GMT
Some very sobering facts and stats emerging which Kerry need to take on board - not be slaves to but take on board. - Galway beat us in the U20 recently with several of these players so they will have no fear (they were underdogs that day also) - Last three teams to knock Dublin out of the Championship failed to lift Sam (job not completed) - Galways Kelly (?) kept DC scoreless from play in the Sigurson final a few months ago
We need to get our heads right and have no doubts - Galway will pose a serious threat and we must be totally focussed on beating them. We need to get over the SF win and park it quickly.
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Post by Mickmack on Jul 11, 2022 12:03:02 GMT
Yes it is set up perfectly for Galway if Kerry are in any way below par.
That opening 30 minutes in Ennis in the u20 semi final left a few scars i imagine.
That was probably 5 years ago.
Then there was the recent reverse against Galway 2 years ago in the same grade.
Galway do not have the House of Pain mental baggage that weights down Mayo.
I do realise that Kerry are "further down the road" than Galway in that Galway have not played in senior All Ireland Finals.
I remember back to 2001 when Meath blew Kerry away but up came Galway to beat Meath well in the final.
Galway are well coached in not taking the ball into contact so you can forget about getting scores from turnovers against them.
Their defense is well organised and has been the main reason that they got through v Armagh and Derry.
Only a fool would dismiss their chances.
They are capable of taking the type of scoring chances that Dublin missed in the semi final.
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Post by clarinman on Jul 11, 2022 12:26:56 GMT
Yes it is set up perfectly for Galway if Kerry are in any way below par. That opening 30 minutes in Ennis in the u20 semi final left a few scars i imagine. That was probably 5 years ago. Then there was the recent reverse against Galway 2 years ago in the same grade. Galway do not have the House of Pain mental baggage that weights down Mayo. I do realise that Kerry are "further down the road" than Galway in that Galway have not played in senior All Ireland Finals. I remember back to 2001 when Meath blew Kerry away but up came Galway to beat Meath well in the final. Galway are well coached in not taking the ball into contact so you can forget about getting scores from turnovers against them. Their defense is well organised and has been the main reason that they got through v Armagh and Derry. Only a fool would dismiss their chances. They are capable of taking the type of scoring chances that Dublin missed in the semi final. Galway turned the ball over 11 times against Derry. Dublin got turned over 15 times yesterday. I attended both semis and I thought the intensity level was much higher in the Dublin Kerry game.
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Post by buck02 on Jul 11, 2022 12:47:34 GMT
Will the Cian O Neill factor be a major factor?
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Post by clarinman on Jul 11, 2022 12:53:54 GMT
Will the Cian O Neill factor be a major factor? Was 2015 Cian's last year with Kerry? Only Moran, Geaney, O'Brien and Murphy left from that era.
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Post by blacksheep21 on Jul 11, 2022 12:59:19 GMT
Will the Cian O Neill factor be a major factor? Other than the fact he is clearly a very good coach, I don’t see what else he can bring. Wasn’t he involved with Cork last year. How long was Paddy Tally with Galway for?
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Post by Whosinmidfield on Jul 11, 2022 15:41:58 GMT
Only one selection decision I see barring players being ruled out through injury, and that is again around deciding whether to start or finish with David Moran. I thought he looked like he was struggling to stay with the pace of the game from early on yesterday but Paul Conroy would be a better match up for him than any of Dublin’s players. If Moran is held in reserve then Adrian Spillane starts. White is our only injury concern as far as I know, if he’s ruled out Paul Murphy is an able replacement. Moynihan did well coming on and I think that should be his role again. It didn’t fall yesterday for Geaney but I do not expect him to have 2 bad days out in a row, I expect him to rise to the occasion.
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Post by keane on Jul 11, 2022 15:44:33 GMT
We only had three backs on the bench yesterday - Murphy, G Crowley & Jack O'Shea who I don't think has played a minute of championship. Bare enough. I wonder if someone like Dan O'Donoghue could come back into the bench if White is missing.
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Post by peanuts on Jul 11, 2022 16:07:54 GMT
We only had three backs on the bench yesterday - Murphy, G Crowley & Jack O'Shea who I don't think has played a minute of championship. Bare enough. I wonder if someone like Dan O'Donoghue could come back into the bench if White is missing. Galway have a couple of tall half forwards in Kelly and Tierney. They might target Murphy if he starts. The other obvious option is Gavin Crowley with Adrian Spillane an outside bet. It looked to me that it was Adrian who went back there when Gavin went off and Joe O'Connor came on. You are right, though, if Gavin White is out we do need another back on the bench.
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Post by Jo90 on Jul 11, 2022 17:18:48 GMT
Some very sobering facts and stats emerging which Kerry need to take on board - not be slaves to but take on board. - Galway beat us in the U20 recently with several of these players so they will have no fear (they were underdogs that day also) - Last three teams to knock Dublin out of the Championship failed to lift Sam (job not completed) - Galways Kelly (?) kept DC scoreless from play in the Sigurson final a few months ago We need to get our heads right and have no doubts - Galway will pose a serious threat and we must be totally focussed on beating them. We need to get over the SF win and park it quickly. - Every time Jack O'Connor knocked out Dublin in the Championship, Kerry won the All-Ireland. - Yesterday Jack O'Connor kept up his 100% record in semifinals. - Kerry have a 100% record in winning the All-Ireland the year after Tyrone have won it - Jack O'Connor has a 100% record of winning the League and All-Ireland in the first year of his management stints with Kerry.
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Post by clarinman on Jul 11, 2022 17:27:17 GMT
Some very sobering facts and stats emerging which Kerry need to take on board - not be slaves to but take on board. - Galway beat us in the U20 recently with several of these players so they will have no fear (they were underdogs that day also) - Last three teams to knock Dublin out of the Championship failed to lift Sam (job not completed) - Galways Kelly (?) kept DC scoreless from play in the Sigurson final a few months ago We need to get our heads right and have no doubts - Galway will pose a serious threat and we must be totally focussed on beating them. We need to get over the SF win and park it quickly. - Every time Jack O'Connor knocked out Dublin in the Championship, Kerry won the All-Ireland. - Yesterday Jack O'Connor kept up his 100% record in semifinals. - Kerry have a 100% record in winning the All-Ireland the year after Tyrone have won it - Jack O'Connor has a 100% record of winning the League and All-Ireland in the first year of his management stints with Kerry. Galway beat Derry in the semi final in the last 2 all Ireland's they won. Something is going to have to give.
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Post by The16thMan on Jul 11, 2022 17:41:13 GMT
Might not have anything to do with the final as such but I think it's disgraceful that Croke Park have closed part of the Nally for RTE to erect a temporary studio and preventing about 5,000 people getting in. It was the reason there wasn't over 80,000 there yesterday and I hope that it won't be the case for the All Ireland Finals. The stadium should be filled to capacity. Whu can't RTE use the studio on the corporate boxes they've used for years.
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Post by Mickmack on Jul 11, 2022 18:05:25 GMT
Some very sobering facts and stats emerging which Kerry need to take on board - not be slaves to but take on board. - Galway beat us in the U20 recently with several of these players so they will have no fear (they were underdogs that day also) - Last three teams to knock Dublin out of the Championship failed to lift Sam (job not completed) - Galways Kelly (?) kept DC scoreless from play in the Sigurson final a few months ago We need to get our heads right and have no doubts - Galway will pose a serious threat and we must be totally focussed on beating them. We need to get over the SF win and park it quickly. - Every time Jack O'Connor knocked out Dublin in the Championship, Kerry won the All-Ireland. - Yesterday Jack O'Connor kept up his 100% record in semifinals. - Kerry have a 100% record in winning the All-Ireland the year after Tyrone have won it - Jack O'Connor has a 100% record of winning the League and All-Ireland in the first year of his management stints with Kerry. Its amazing that there is such a strong anti Jack sentiment in Kerry as evidenced by the furore over his appointment last year. It looks like Paddy Tally is having an impact too. The defending yesterday was very different to what we saw v Tyrone in the 2021 semi final.
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Post by dc84 on Jul 11, 2022 18:23:11 GMT
That headline reads sweet lads, funnily enough yesterday afterwards met a few neutrals still arent convinced by our backs which i find kind of funny tbh! All our defenders played well but i thought beaglaoich was exceptional in last 10 mins he was so brave going for several short kickouts and bursting forward. In reality we probably should have won that game by more we retreated into ourselves a bit and dublin got a run on us great that we showed serious mettle to eventually win it in such great scenes ! Those few minutes after Sean o sheas free will stay with me for the rest of my life i think !
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Post by greengold35 on Jul 11, 2022 18:25:05 GMT
25th Anniversary of the 1997 team so it will be great to see some absolute legends and cheer them at half time. Also great to be messaging in a thread about Kerry in another AI final. Best of luck lads. Saw 3 of that team in Tralee last week after getting suited & booted.
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Post by thehermit on Jul 11, 2022 19:05:33 GMT
Might not have anything to do with the final as such but I think it's disgraceful that Croke Park have closed part of the Nally for RTE to erect a temporary studio and preventing about 5,000 people getting in. It was the reason there wasn't over 80,000 there yesterday and I hope that it won't be the case for the All Ireland Finals. The stadium should be filled to capacity. Whu can't RTE use the studio on the corporate boxes they've used for years. Didn't realise this, what a bloody joke. If its allowed stay in place for the next two weekends RTE should be run out of this country.
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Post by greengold35 on Jul 11, 2022 19:12:54 GMT
Galway really impressed me vs Armagh. They were on the rack in the first 20 mins, kept their composure, kept doing the basics, & we’re level at half time - they kicked on well in the 2nd half & though conceding two goals late on felt they were deserving winners. Their defence is solid, a strong mobile midfield & possess dangerous forwards especially their inside line of Finnerty, Comer & Walsh - they are in the final on merit. However our management team seem to have identified our deficiencies from last couple of years & we are playing with great belief - yesterday will have brought us on a ton & we are playing to a well defined structure - we scored a point yesterday after holding the ball for about 3 mins but it was our kick out strategy which was really impressive- the resolve of the team to get our final kick out away was brilliant, great composure from Shane Ryan, the running of Briain O’Beaglaoi - all rehearsed & enacted to perfection. We will require 21 players to overcome Galway - we have those players & a management team who know what it takes to win.
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Post by whiteheat on Jul 11, 2022 20:08:02 GMT
I am based in Galway for a number of years now and have watched alot of these players in club action over the years. What they have achieved this year has taken me by surprise. The goalkeeping situation is one which most people here cant get their head around. For most he is not even third choice. He will surely be targeted and This will certainly cost them in the final
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Post by exiled on Jul 11, 2022 20:09:40 GMT
Some very sobering facts and stats emerging which Kerry need to take on board - not be slaves to but take on board. - Galway beat us in the U20 recently with several of these players so they will have no fear (they were underdogs that day also) - Last three teams to knock Dublin out of the Championship failed to lift Sam (job not completed) - Galways Kelly (?) kept DC scoreless from play in the Sigurson final a few months ago We need to get our heads right and have no doubts - Galway will pose a serious threat and we must be totally focussed on beating them. We need to get over the SF win and park it quickly. - Every time Jack O'Connor knocked out Dublin in the Championship, Kerry won the All-Ireland. - Yesterday Jack O'Connor kept up his 100% record in semifinals. - Kerry have a 100% record in winning the All-Ireland the year after Tyrone have won it - Jack O'Connor has a 100% record of winning the League and All-Ireland in the first year of his management stints with Kerry. A famous man once said "There is lies,damm lies and statistics". Let's not get into believing in rubbish like that. Absolute effort and skill will win the final...nothing less..and definitely not stats.
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