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Post by royalkerryfan on May 6, 2022 22:04:49 GMT
I wouldn't call an ex Kerry player a spoofer because I disagreed with them or I thought that they weren't great pundit or columnist.
I certainly don't begrudge them a few euro either for the sacrifices they made for us over the years.
I don't particularly like certain pundits like Brolly after his comments about Clifford in 2019 so I just don't read his columns.
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Post by Ballyfireside on May 6, 2022 23:46:50 GMT
I wouldn't say there is malice here but I think ye are getting yourselves into a twist.
Tomás was brill on TSG while Darragh in The Irish Times is not forensic and maybe by design - to me he may be giving a 'time and place' armchair view for the masses who tune in when the temperature is rising. If The Irish Times paid any of us for our opinion we'd hardly refuse?
Hey, nobody forces anyone to read what they say, though many pay to read it.
One thing I would say is that they put things a bit differently in some respects and which may be rooted in their Gaeltacht culture. To me it's one of them things you know is there but you can't quiet put your finger on it. Just like Paidí's Hogan speech, and maybe also the animals one and where he was badly treated.
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Post by kerrysouth on May 6, 2022 23:47:24 GMT
Jack O Connor to get his campaign off with a comprehensive win tomorrow v Cork is the predictable outcome .in my opinion the next few games are preparation to a likely meeting with Dublin in the semi final when we will truly find out if this team has evolved and improved in the last 12 months . I think it has and best of luck to my neighbour Jack O Connor and team as they begin that journey in the most unlikely venue PUR tomorrow evening
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Post by mike70 on May 7, 2022 5:25:36 GMT
All the best to the team and management today. The cork team looks more solid than I expected in defence, looks like they might keep it competitive for awhile, still expect kerry by 7 to 10 points. Cork do look light in the half forward line, so I think our boys can really boss this line. We will need jack n DOC to dominate the middle to give us our platform, but maybe cork might concede our kick outs, making it a bit easier, but hope they don’t, like to see us put under pressure.
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Post by Mickmack on May 7, 2022 6:32:55 GMT
Cork will have to try to clog up space between their own 20 and 45 metre lines initially and get to half time and take stock then.
In that period it will be interesting to see whether Kerry have the nous to patiently create openings for scores when time and space are denied.
Last year Cork started off going long with most of their kickouts and lost most..... and the solution was to kick it even longer...and Kerry won those too. So its vital for Cork to find a way to retain possession someway from their own kickout.
There was a really interesting spell in the league final when Kerry went down to 14 men. Shane Ryan went long with 4 or 5 kickouts and Kerry won most of them...mainly directed to the wing to Adrian S. So i hope we see variety in the Kerry kickout today.
The game may go away from Cork at some stage and scores come easy to Kerry.
Its the period when its tight that we will learn most particularly whether posts can be posted from distance over the Cork defense...and scores from half forwards, midfield and half backs are what wins the All Ireland. It cant all be left to the FF line
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Post by taggert on May 7, 2022 7:56:18 GMT
Cork will have to try to clog up space between their own 20 and 45 metre lines initially and get to half time and take stock then. In that period it will be interesting to see whether Kerry have the nous to patiently create openings for scores when time and space are denied. Last year Cork started off going long with most of their kickouts and lost most..... and the solution was to kick it even longer...and Kerry won those too. So its vital for Cork to find a way to retain possession someway from their own kickout. There was a really interesting spell in the league final when Kerry went down to 14 men. Shane Ryan went long with 4 or 5 kickouts and Kerry won most of them...mainly directed to the wing to Adrian S. So i hope we see variety in the Kerry kickout today. The game may go away from Cork at some stage and scores come easy to Kerry. Its the period when its tight that we will learn most particularly whether posts can be posted from distance over the Cork defense...and scores from half forwards, midfield and half backs are what wins the All Ireland. It cant all be left to the FF line .......defense...and scores from half forwards, midfield and half backs are what wins the All Ireland. It cant all be left to the FF line..... This is where Tyrone and Dublin excel - spread of scorers. Tyrone had scores from distance from all areas last year. Will Stephen, Adrian, Diarmuid, Jack, Gavin, Brian threaten the scoreboard? They will need to on a day that David, Tony and Seanie are well marshalled.
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Post by mike70 on May 7, 2022 7:59:24 GMT
Cork will have to try to clog up space between their own 20 and 45 metre lines initially and get to half time and take stock then. In that period it will be interesting to see whether Kerry have the nous to patiently create openings for scores when time and space are denied. Last year Cork started off going long with most of their kickouts and lost most..... and the solution was to kick it even longer...and Kerry won those too. So its vital for Cork to find a way to retain possession someway from their own kickout. There was a really interesting spell in the league final when Kerry went down to 14 men. Shane Ryan went long with 4 or 5 kickouts and Kerry won most of them...mainly directed to the wing to Adrian S. So i hope we see variety in the Kerry kickout today. The game may go away from Cork at some stage and scores come easy to Kerry. Its the period when its tight that we will learn most particularly whether posts can be posted from distance over the Cork defense...and scores from half forwards, midfield and half backs are what wins the All Ireland. It cant all be left to the FF line .......defense...and scores from half forwards, midfield and half backs are what wins the All Ireland. It cant all be left to the FF line..... This is where Tyrone and Dublin excel - spread of scorers. Tyrone had scores from distance from all areas last year. Will Stephen, Adrian, Diarmuid, Jack, Gavin, Brian threaten the scoreboard? They will need to on a day that David, Tony and Seanie are well marshalled. 100% agree
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Post by thehermit on May 7, 2022 9:03:01 GMT
As a brief aside does anyone know the photograph of Darragh from 1995 that Fitzmaurice references in his article. Tried to search online but couldn't find it.
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Post by thepope on May 7, 2022 9:38:17 GMT
Couldn't find ticket all week. Just got some on Ticketmaster. Delighted
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Post by Mickmack on May 7, 2022 10:37:22 GMT
I still laugh when i think of Ronan McCarthys put down of Darragh's u21 reign. Priceless really. Darragh himself would appreciate that one.
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Post by kerryexile on May 7, 2022 11:47:11 GMT
Bang out of order calling lads who gave you more good days than bad spoofers They've earned the right to speak about the game more than anyone on here that's for sure. They are correct regarding Cork but because it's not the Kerry way to speak without yearra they are ridiculed on here. RoyalKerry just because they were brilliant players does nt mean we can't criticise their comments. If they are able to put people down in their public forum then for me they are open for criticism too. You don't have to agree but maybe you are blinded by your county loyalty. I used to be up but not anymore. If another ex player from another county said Kerry players were a disgrace and spineless how would you feel?. I have no problem with pundits saying Kerry will beat Cork easily etc but have a bit of empathy. And for the record Ronan Mccarthy was right about Darragh s management. Sometimes there is an unhealthy willingness to attack the person if they have a different opinion or have a different way of doing something. There is a complete intolerance of a different point of view. It isn't the content of the opinion its a case of "Who said that?". Darragh is only one of hundreds of journalists/ columnists who have offered opinions on the game. And everyone of them were different. Thankfully the vast majority of posters enjoy a good balanced discussion.
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Post by Annascaultilidie on May 7, 2022 12:06:25 GMT
I think the use of the word "spoofer" is probably a little unfair. The punditry in question can be criticised without going that far.
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Post by royalkerryfan on May 7, 2022 12:31:11 GMT
Bang out of order calling lads who gave you more good days than bad spoofers They've earned the right to speak about the game more than anyone on here that's for sure. They are correct regarding Cork but because it's not the Kerry way to speak without yearra they are ridiculed on here. RoyalKerry just because they were brilliant players does nt mean we can't criticise their comments. If they are able to put people down in their public forum then for me they are open for criticism too. You don't have to agree but maybe you are blinded by your county loyalty. I used to be up but not anymore. If another ex player from another county said Kerry players were a disgrace and spineless how would you feel?. I have no problem with pundits saying Kerry will beat Cork easily etc but have a bit of empathy. And for the record Ronan Mccarthy was right about Darragh s management. Critise away Mick but don't personalise it by calling them spoofers.
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Post by horsebox77 on May 7, 2022 12:33:40 GMT
As a brief aside does anyone know the photograph of Darragh from 1995 that Fitzmaurice references in his article. Tried to search online but couldn't find it. Attachments:
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Post by horsebox77 on May 7, 2022 12:37:21 GMT
I actually remember the catch… Darragh had come on for Conor Kearney if my memory serves me right, Oige got lambasted for taking off Kearney the previous year in PûC as although not winning clean possession he was spoiling the Cork duo, the opposite was the case in 1995, we were tattoo’d in the centre and changes should have have been made. earlier
Truth be told, Oige was unlucky in 1994 but we were well outfoxed in 95.
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Post by kerryexile on May 7, 2022 12:58:15 GMT
I think the game will not be a complicated one. Kerry should dominate from start to finish. The only question is how effectively will Cork park the bus. The implications of this question is that Cork will not put up a big score. So it is likely that they will score about 6 points in each half. They may hit the net too because Cork will have the advantage of a "parochial" atmosphere in PUR and the crowd would see a goal almost as an entitlement.
Kerry should definitely be able to pull away in the second half and win with a double digit margin.
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Post by thehermit on May 7, 2022 13:39:02 GMT
As a brief aside does anyone know the photograph of Darragh from 1995 that Fitzmaurice references in his article. Tried to search online but couldn't find it. Sound man Horse
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Post by thehermit on May 7, 2022 13:40:18 GMT
Just having my first pint by the Lee, lovely day here and warm feels like first day of summer. Let's hope it's a glorious one for Kerry.
Safe travels all, An Riocht Abu!!
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Post by royalkerryfan on May 7, 2022 13:43:41 GMT
Having a pint in Currans, by god the Dingle half marathon is spectacular but the hills are relentless.
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Post by thehermit on May 7, 2022 14:25:18 GMT
Having a pint in Currans, by god the Dingle half marathon is spectacular but the hills are relentless. I'd struggle with the 5k version!!!
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Post by royalkerryfan on May 7, 2022 15:24:08 GMT
Having a pint in Currans, by god the Dingle half marathon is spectacular but the hills are relentless. I'd struggle with the 5k version!!! I'm now retired Hermit 🤣
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Post by sullyschoice on May 7, 2022 16:07:40 GMT
Cork keeper is out practicing his long kickouts. Aiming them towards opposite 45m line. Must expecting a high press
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Post by Kingdomson on May 7, 2022 16:22:05 GMT
I think the use of the word "spoofer" is probably a little unfair. The punditry in question can be criticised without going that far. Well said. Those players gave their county some service and are entitled to an opinion whether we agree or not. I guess the irony is lost too on those casting such an assertion while they hide behind a username. There must be no mirror in some houses.
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Post by Kingdomson on May 7, 2022 16:39:22 GMT
Best of luck to the Kerry team this evening!
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Post by kerrybhoy06 on May 7, 2022 17:30:17 GMT
We are kicking no where near enough ball. Way too much through the hands
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Post by taggert on May 7, 2022 17:32:23 GMT
Diarmuid has been excellent.
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Post by Mickmack on May 7, 2022 17:48:09 GMT
Cork will have to try to clog up space between their own 20 and 45 metre lines initially and get to half time and take stock then. In that period it will be interesting to see whether Kerry have the nous to patiently create openings for scores when time and space are denied. Half time. Kerry 2 points up. All going well so far for Cork. Powter is just a fab player. Sherlock is class. SoS is poor as is GW. SoB doing well. No sign of much attacking nous sadly from Kerry to break down Cork. Too many unnecessary frees being given away by Kerry in defense... by Foley and JB and that one by Morley could have been a yellow card...a free wasnt given. Great effort by Cork. Exactly what we wanted.
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Post by dc84 on May 7, 2022 17:52:41 GMT
Defence are doing ok but the stupid fouls are hurting us , get the ball to brien by far our most effective forward.
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Post by gaelicden on May 7, 2022 18:03:16 GMT
Foley has not been comfortable today
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Post by taggert on May 7, 2022 18:04:14 GMT
Graham O'Sullivan is struggling with and without ball.
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