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Post by Mickmack on May 8, 2022 9:25:10 GMT
Can any positivity be taken from the fact that at 50 minutes when only one point ahead Kerry were in a very tight game and not only didn't panic but routed Cork in the last 20 minutes? Absolutely. But we can't say it cos well, yerra and all that. As long as the subs that the rest of our opponents bring on are as weak as the Cork subs shur we will be grand. 6 of the 11 Cork panel yesterday never played for Cork.
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Post by greengold35 on May 8, 2022 9:51:13 GMT
Lots of pros and cons about yesterday. Firstly I want to state I watched match on TV so did nt see off the ball or movement etc. However on what I saw I was both content and worried. A little worried that for long periods we struggled with Corks defensive system and I'm sure Tyrone Donegal Dublin will have a tougher system than that. We did nt create one goal chance yesterday but that will come P. G. Some of our players did nt look comfortable on the ball at times. At least the selectors have a tough job again and that's great. Paul Geaney for me has to start. I thought he was sublime in league final and unlucky not to start yesterday. I would suggest Paul FF and David way out in the corner and if teams put two men on him it frees up the main channel big time. Dan Ó Donoghue Casey and Paul Murphy will be I. Contention the next day and maybe Tom Sullivan might be one to lose out or would that affect his confidence? Moran put his hand up again with composure confidence and know how. I'm a huge fan of Diarmuid but not sure he puts in a constant 100% shift for midfield so maybe Moran comes in and Diarmuid as a 3rd midfielder from half forward. I suppose anyday you win a match with your star player quiet is good too No disrespect to Limk/Tipp but we should win munster but we need to be in top condition for a tough quarter final. I was on the terrace behind the goals where we were attacking in the first half - our forward movement was disappointing given that Cork had at times, 3 players on DC - I was particularly annoyed with Tony Brosnan who failed to show at times for ball - O'Brien was brilliant coming forward but there was nobody coming to him or offering him an outlet - good job Cork were failing to cope with him and fouled him too often. We are out of the blocks, learned a few things and will iron out some of those issues.
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Post by Annascaultilidie on May 8, 2022 9:55:50 GMT
Were Cork fit? Limerick will be very fit if they are there.
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Post by An Ciarraíoch Taistealaíoch on May 8, 2022 10:09:38 GMT
Were Cork fit? Limerick will be very fit if they are there. I think they were as fit as they could possibly have been given their relative lack of established intercounty footballers. No matter how much their championship debutants have trained since joining the panel (Dec/Jan?) they couldnt match the levels that the established Kerry players have reached over the past number of years were able to maintain for 80mins. IMO this is why Cork really faded in the last 20mins and had players down cramping towards the end. (This said, I still can't understand why some of the same Kerry players were cramping Vs Tyrone last year but that's a matter for a different thread.. )
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Post by Mickmack on May 8, 2022 10:20:33 GMT
Lots of pros and cons about yesterday. Firstly I want to state I watched match on TV so did nt see off the ball or movement etc. However on what I saw I was both content and worried. A little worried that for long periods we struggled with Corks defensive system and I'm sure Tyrone Donegal Dublin will have a tougher system than that. We did nt create one goal chance yesterday but that will come P. G. Some of our players did nt look comfortable on the ball at times. At least the selectors have a tough job again and that's great. Paul Geaney for me has to start. I thought he was sublime in league final and unlucky not to start yesterday. I would suggest Paul FF and David way out in the corner and if teams put two men on him it frees up the main channel big time. Dan Ó Donoghue Casey and Paul Murphy will be I. Contention the next day and maybe Tom Sullivan might be one to lose out or would that affect his confidence? Moran put his hand up again with composure confidence and know how. I'm a huge fan of Diarmuid but not sure he puts in a constant 100% shift for midfield so maybe Moran comes in and Diarmuid as a 3rd midfielder from half forward. I suppose anyday you win a match with your star player quiet is good too No disrespect to Limk/Tipp but we should win munster but we need to be in top condition for a tough quarter final. I was on the terrace behind the goals where we were attacking in the first half - our forward movement was disappointing given that Cork had at times, 3 players on DC - I was particularly annoyed with Tony Brosnan who failed to show at times for ball - O'Brien was brilliant coming forward but there was nobody coming to him or offering him an outlet - good job Cork were failing to cope with him and fouled him too often. We are out of the blocks, learned a few things and will iron out some of those issues. I agree. Jack will learn for more from this game that the league final. It was absolutely in Kerrys interests that Cork did so well for so long yesterday and that they stopped DC. The game was always going to go away from them at some stage. This is far better than the Kerry v Cork game in Killarney last year which was no use to PK. I am delighted with Corks effort. I am delighted they dug in and got the game played in PUR. The much maligned Cork footballers are now showing more liatroidi than the Cork hurlers. The big problem from Kerry is where are the scores going to come from the day a strong opponent keeps DC to 2 or 3 points. I think Jack Savage has to be a part of the solution against well organised defenses. Kicking long range points is actually in his DNA. Stronger opponents have players in all lines of their teams who can pop up with scores. Kerry will get over Limerick too. The month long wait to the QF will have to be well used in training.
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Post by Jo90 on May 8, 2022 10:48:03 GMT
It's a strange situation that Kerry beat Cork in Cork by 12 points and the Cork supporters are delighted and the Kerry supporters are disappointed! David Clifford was quiet but he had Powter essentially double marking him and was even triple marked at times. Even at 6 points down Cork persisted with a sweeper. It was like Cork were more interested in keeping the margin of loss down than trying to win. This game was good practice for Kerry v the likes of Tyrone - Cork with 15 men behind the ball, a sweeper and a player going down 'injured' every 2 minutes. I was happy enough, to get 50 min of c'ship pace, lots to work on and some great performances off the bench. Moran will start in big games I reckon but not sure which of the 3 players spot he'll take.
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Post by greengold35 on May 8, 2022 10:54:33 GMT
It's a strange situation that Kerry beat Cork in Cork by 12 points and the Cork supporters are delighted and the Kerry supporters are disappointed! David Clifford was quiet but he had Powter essentially double marking him and was even triple marked at times. Even at 6 points down Cork persisted with a sweeper. It was like Cork were more interested in keeping the margin of loss down than trying to win. This game was good practice for Kerry v the likes of Tyrone - Cork with 15 men behind the ball, a sweeper and a player going down 'injured' every 2 minutes. I was happy enough, to get 50 min of c'ship pace, lots to work on and some great performances off the bench. Moran will start in big games I reckon but not sure which of the 3 players spot he'll take. I think having Moran to see out games might work better than starting him - if he starts Adrian will lose out & Paul G is a certainty to get the nod next day in place of Brosnan - Dara Moynihan too will be in contention but will probably have to settle for a subs role. Regarding Cork’s injuries I think they were genuine - some of Kerry’s tackling was bone crunching & took its toll.
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Post by kerryeastcoastusa on May 8, 2022 11:26:51 GMT
I think David Moran will be the key to Kerry for the big games at the end of the year. If Kerry are down a few points and chasing a team then we need David at midfield to really press their kick outs and make them go long. Similarly if we are ahead and a team are really pressing our kick out we need to have the ability to go long. Winning the kick out is what keeps momentum or breaks momentum- therefore David needs to be on the pitch and fresh for the last 20 minutes. He therefore starts on the bench for me.
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Post by veteran on May 8, 2022 11:32:06 GMT
This is one game I would love to see on screen because I just was not happy with my vantage point. I was in the main stand, low down, about thirty metres or so from the non city goal. Perhaps it is because I am not that familiar with Pairc Ui Rinn, mostly there for underage games in the past, but I always felt I was not getting a good overall view of proceedings. For instance, when Kerry went on their scoring spree in the last twenty minutes I was too disadvantaged to appreciate the action. Perhaps, if anyone has the wherewithal they would post a recording of the match on the Forum. I am looking at you Mickmack.
At the outset it must be said, if you are expected to win a match by a dozen points and you do that , the reaction tends to be be, so what. Accordingly, Kerry were on a hiding to nothing. And of course no supporters are more demanding than Kerry supporters.
The match was not on too long when it became apparent that Cork had not come along to pay homage to Kerry "stars". The other aspect of the game which was apparent from the off was the viciousness of the tackles/collisions. The referee deemed most of these legitimate which , for once, suited Kerry. In most of these collisions it was the Cork man who came off second best and finished on the ground hurt and I can assure you they were not feigning injury. This was to be expected because, for obvious reason, Kerry are way ahead in strength and conditioning. Eventually this exacted a toll with Cork faltering seriously with about twenty minutes to go. I think they had closed the gap to a point hut by then they were on the ropes. Prior to that it was a genuine contest even though it must be that at no stage could one see Cork winning due the array of artillery Kerry possessed.
In that first half with the Kerry forwards playing into my area there was not a whole lot to enthuse about from a Kerry offensive point of view. Our star man, needless to say, was never allowed out in public without at least two chaperones. I felt he had a legitimate claim for a penalty early in the game and that is one incident I would like to see on screen. Cork were defending marvellously, as indeed they did for most of the game, until Kerry brought on some heavy hitters, with Sean Powter a very effective sweeper , a role he was born to fulfill. Of course, that opening half was notable for one of my pet hates, this retreating en masse by Kerry leaving huge acreage depopulated. All this in spite of having a panoply of top forwards. But this is the way of the modern game they tell me. I will give you two stark examples of this bizarre approach where positions seem to mean little. Adrian Spillane's man, John Cooper, kept drifting over to Cork's left half back position where he repeatedly collected balls in open prairie with neither sight nor sound of Adrian. I am not sure what Adrian was up to or where he was , perhaps he was instructed to keep drifting backwards to fortify the defence. Either way he was largely anonymous in contrast to most of his NFL displays. The other example of a difficult to understand ploy concerned Brian O'Beaghlaoch. He spent large swathes of the first half in the right corner position in front of me and it didn't appear as if he was up there chasing an opponent. Perhaps, his man was given a free wandering role and Brian was told to advance. Too complicated for an old mind. Any significance in that, like Adrian, Brian has had better games.
The outstanding feature of the opening ten/ fifteen minutes was some glorious long range point kicking by Cork , especially by young Cathail O'Mahony, more than a handful for Tom O'Sullivan all through. What a wonderful skill, all to rarely executed nowadays. However, after that salvo Kerry exerted total dominance largely helped by the introduction of Paul Murphy, Paul Geaney and above all by man of war, David Moran. David Moran demonstrated that, while industry is very important at midfield, the man who can soar skywards in that area trumps all comers. Welcome back David. Saw your dad before the match ,as well as other past masters like Colm Copper and Paudie Lynch. They made a contribution in their day!
In any case, it was a Kerry procession in those last twenty minutes or so with Sean O'Shea orchestrating the attack in his inimitable way. As far as I an recall neither team came close to scoring a goal, perhaps David came close towards the end, which is a testament to some outstanding defensive work by both sides.
Shane Ryan had a care free evening. Jason gave away one or two needless frees in the first half but was was outstanding in the second half, literally playing Brian Hurley off the field. That is a fair achievement because Brian no slouch. I had a good view of Graham O'Sullivan in the second half. I expressed some misgivings about him prior to the match but these have now considerably eased. Not flawless but he is an enthusiastic, energetic, hardy nut. Gavin White was strangely quiet in the first half but exploded in the second half. He made at least three spectacular catches. I didn't think he had that in his arsenal.
Both of our starting midfielders were satisfactory but David's coming supplied the missing ingredient, the high catch. This man cold be pivotal for us before the year is out.
Stephen O'Brien was outstanding all through and he wasn't shy about using his body with thunderous effect. I felt sorry for Tony Brosnan. Things just didn't fall his way and he seemed to be trying that bit too hard. I would still like to see him starting the next day and keep the wily Paul in reserve.
It was nice to Stefan participating vigorously in the pre match warm up.
There is no doubt at all that Cork, when they overcome their injury crisis, have the nucleus of a fine side and they have a good man in charge. The immediate concern for them, as history shows, after playing out of their skins against Kerry they are capable of nosediving even against a mediocre side in the qualifiers. I sincerely hope they play at their optimal level.
It is water under the bridge now of course but wouldn't Cork have been so much better off by playing in Killarney yesterday and then have the luxury of Pairc Ui Caoimh for the next two years against Kerry. Silly, short sighted boys.
There was a time when I would be up at the u20 match now but two consecutive days travelling is too much for this sad, old has been.
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Post by Kingdomson on May 8, 2022 11:48:09 GMT
Three things stood out to me. 1) It was perceived in some quarters that Kerry might have problems in midfield - you must be joking. 2) Kerry's composure throughout was impressive. 3) Kerry have a clear defensive structure and brought huge physicality - it was Dublinesque - and there are a lot of bruised and sore bodies in Cork this morning. They won't be the only victims before this year is done.
Well done Kerry on taking care of business in such a professional manner. We move on.
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Post by thehermit on May 8, 2022 11:54:52 GMT
Lovely day in up here in O'Moore park, let's hope it's two wins in two days!
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Post by Deise Exile on May 8, 2022 20:52:54 GMT
Anyone able to post a recording link of the game? I was there but would like to watch it back. Was very impressed with David Moran when he entered the fray and also the aggressive tackling of all Kerry players including Gavin White in the second half
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Post by royalkerryfan on May 8, 2022 20:53:12 GMT
Is David Moran a starter or impact sub ? Think it's the latter for me especially after last night.
Cork reacted to recent criticism and I'm sure wanted to put in a performance for Keith aswell.
Delighted it was a challenging game that is so much better than a facile 20 point victory.
No goals conceded again and that is very satisfying.
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Post by Tadhgeen on May 8, 2022 21:26:58 GMT
Is David Moran a starter or impact sub ? Think it's the latter for me especially after last night. Cork reacted to recent criticism and I'm sure wanted to put in a performance for Keith aswell. Delighted it was a challenging game that is so much better than a facile 20 point victory. No goals conceded again and that is very satisfying. Watching the fairly long warm up before the game and Moran looked like a man possessed. Was not surprised he played so well when he came on. He was our ‘penetrator’ and instigator in chief when he came on.
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Post by dubaigaa2022 on May 8, 2022 23:06:20 GMT
Sunday game - were they a bit hard on the Cork effort? Thought Cork gave a very good account of themselves tbh
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Post by john4 on May 8, 2022 23:11:38 GMT
The only way to keep this match interesting is to throw a few pound on kerry beating the handicap (12 points) PP knows more about football than most pundits! He was bang on in fairness!
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Post by kerryboyo on May 8, 2022 23:34:44 GMT
Brosnan mixes too many bad things with good things to be a starter I’d go with Geaney and moynihan for Spillane when he’s back
Moran has to start IMO
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Post by Ballyfireside on May 8, 2022 23:35:21 GMT
Vet plugs the gaps nicely for those who didn't make it to PUR.
Though neither Treaty nor indeed Tribes pulled away until after 50 mins, I never sensed neither could lose - ah maybe different when 'tis your own team. I'd have thought that with the 2nd 15 we have there wouldn't be as much rust v a Div 4 gang. Maybe that's part of what Ciaran Whelan was on about and which has us benchmarking Cork and Derry/Kerry and Tyrone/Munster and Ulster. Maybe, or not, my judgement is clouded here as I also believe Dgal have more in the tank than TSG boys and is it that they have done the benchmarking - still Clerkin agrees with me so isn't he some judge! - seriously, there is a power to Dgal that hasn't always been there and a more than the normally very interesting Ulster final lies ahead IMO. What might be even more interesting though is Tyrone lying low, pun intended? x 2, if ya with me? - they ordered plenty of WD40 vs Derry!
BTW am I getting this right, 8 Tailteann Cup games involving 16 teams on Sat 28th May, and then Ulster and Connaught deciders the day after - wow!
Can anyone point me to the true meaning for 'Tailteann' - jazus but 'tis wild confusing. I routinely do this as there is generally a subtle id defining undertone, so now all I need is the bloody definition!
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Post by Annascaultilidie on May 9, 2022 5:07:54 GMT
Brosnan mixes too many bad things with good things to be a starter I’d go with Geaney and moynihan for Spillane when he’s back Moran has to start IMO I would ordinarily go with the best team from the off and believe that some older players are better off the pitch when things go helter-skelter at the end... However the argument might be that Kerry's issue is with the end of games, and a fresh David Moran could be vital in that regard. He could come on at minute 45 or even 40 maybe.
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Post by Mickmack on May 9, 2022 7:34:45 GMT
Éamonn Fitzmaurice: Will others follow Cork and sweep on Clifford?
MON, 09 MAY, 2022 - 06:02 ÉAMONN FITZMAURICE
In a strange way, it was mission accomplished for both Cork and Kerry on Saturday evening in Páirc Uí Rinn. Cork gave a decent representation of themselves and their county for three quarters of the match while Kerry won by 12, conceding only 11 and with plenty to work on.
Kudos to the Cork management as they got plenty right. From the off, it was clear that they were going to play with huge physicality and were going to work very hard for each other. With John Cleary in charge, the Castlehaven identity was bound to be a factor. Playing with spirit and bite is non-negotiable and requires not only talent, but togetherness and gumption. Playing so close to the edge did result in the concession of frees (some of the soft variety) with Kerry scoring 10 points from placed balls. Cleary and co will have preferred this to standing off Kerry and allowing them to score at will from play.
The discipline is something they can improve on for next day out. An interesting feature of their setup was the double sweeper that they deployed, with each having different roles. Seán Powter withdrew from his centre forward slot and patrolled with effect in front of David Clifford. Ian Maguire also withdrew as Kerry attacked and he covered runners through the middle channel. This model of providing Clifford with his own specific sweeper is something we will see more and more of as the championship progresses. While it is too easy to say 'stop Clifford and you stop Kerry', what is certain is if you don’t stop him, you won’t win. The only thing I feel Cork could have done better in this regard is if Powter was available for more of those trademark runs for deep when they were in possession. The couple of times he managed it they were effective. The lack of game time in the lead in to this game as he recovered from his latest injury was probably a factor in this. The fact he was gone from the pitch for Kerry’s last quarter power play was no coincidence either.
Cork can also be very pleased with the contributions of their debutants particularly John Cooper and Cathail O'Mahony. O'Mahony has been on Kerry radar for a while because of his underage prowess but kicking three from play on limited possession is a great return. A word also on Stephen Sherlock who has continued his St Finbarrs form into the red jersey. The key thing now is for Cork to back up this performance in the qualifiers, which will mean that 2022 will feel like a year they have progressed their development rather than stalling it.
Jack O'Connor will be delighted to have a game under the belt after a five-week hiatus when they got to nurse the niggles from the league. A championship match is a different animal with a unique emotional build-up to the first championship encounter each season. Once you are up and running it tends to flow then. As always, the match also provides invaluable context which will inform training for the next two and a half weeks in the lead-in to the Munster final.
Diarmuid O'Connor was outstanding in the middle of the field when the game was a contest. Two cameos stood out for me which underlines the physical progress he has made. In the fifth minute Cork forced a turnover on Paudie Clifford and as they counter-attacked, O'Connor put in a big hit and turned the ball over again which led directly to David Clifford's first score. He drove forward and kicked a great score himself and from the next kickout, blew Ian Maguire out of the way for a breaking ball which led to a Tony Brosnan point. While still only 23 he is maturing into a Kerry number 8, who has always possessed the required attributes but now has the physicality to go with it.
At the other end of the development spectrum is Stephen O'Brien who also had an excellent game. Stephen always plays well against Cork and his direct running and hard work was to the fore here as he also kicked two points. His pace at wing forward brings something that none of the other players in competition for that jersey can and provides Kerry with good attacking balance and variety.
I have a feeling that for the rest of the summer we could leave aside a paragraph in every post match Kerry analysis to refer to the impact of the bench, such is the strength of the squad now. As Cork were withdrawing the likes of Powter and Brian Hurley, Kerry were introducing David Moran, Paul Geaney, Paul Murphy and Micheál Burns. All of them contributed and Kerry won the last quarter by 12 points to 1. When Moran came on Kerry took over the Cork kickout. Even when they didn’t win the first phase of possession they turned Cork over when they won it and attacked from there.
The disparity in the physical condition of both teams was clear in these exchanges. Cork were unlucky with Micheál Aodh Martin’s injury and Dylan Foley’s introduction was far from ideal. While Foley did fine and made a good save from a David Clifford shot, his kickout was clearly that of an outfield player in goals. He didn’t have the range to go over the Kerry press and when they figured it out they went to town on it late on. It is something Cork will need to work on for the next day out as Martin’s injury looked serious enough that he is unlikely to make it back for the opening game in the qualifier series. Their kickout cost them big time in Killarney last year also so it will be top of the list of things to fix.
In terms of work-ons for Jack O'Connor and the lads, there are a few things that will need to be improved for the Munster final and afterwards. Early in the game in a worrying repeat of what we saw in Croke Park last August, players took ball into traffic and got turned over. Cork weren’t able to counter-attack with the proficiency of some other teams, but that challenge will come down the line for them. Derry, playing the way they did last weekend, would really trouble Kerry on the counter-attack. I think Jack will also be disappointed with some of the indiscipline at the back. Nearly half of Cork’s total came from frees and a few of the fouls were completely unnecessary. The performance of the subs means there will be plenty of competition for the next day and that will drive the standards in training between now and then as they look to keep the graph going upwards.
Once upon a time in the Munster championship, the satisfied refrain after beating Cork would have been ‘Cork is bate and the hay is saved.’ With the new rhythms of the season the silage hasn’t even been cut, never mind the hay saved, but Kerry drive on to the Munster final as they move irrevocably towards their date with destiny.
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Post by Mickmack on May 9, 2022 7:46:17 GMT
Malachy Clerkin at Páirc Uí Rinn
Cork 0-11 Kerry 0-23
This was no 12-point game. Kerry were obviously the better side, no ifs or buts or maybes. But they were made to labour for their win and needed to step on the gas down the stretch to assert their bona fides.
They outscored Cork by 0-12 to 0-1 in the closing 20 minutes, brutalising the Cork kick-out and raining down scores from everywhere when it mattered most.
And yet for long stretches, it was a quietly defiant performance from the home side. Cork’s flaws are obvious enough – they can struggle for penetration and they rarely see a problem that turning around to play a 20-yard pass back the pitch won’t solve.
But nonetheless, they were able to conjure up enough tackles and interventions in defence to get the crowd interested and allied this to a day of uncanny accuracy when they did eventually shoot.
It made for a game that Kerry took an age to put manners on. David Clifford and Sean O’Shea were brilliantly-marshalled by Kevin Flahive and Rory Maguire. Seán Powter patrolled the edge of the Cork D with vim and gusto, wiring into tackles and leading the break-outs when he saw fit.
At the very least it made Cork hard to beat, a rare sight in these games over the past decade. As the clock ticked into the 50th minute, they trailed by just a point, 0-11 to 0-10. Nobody had that on their bingo card beforehand.
“I would say we were sloppy with the ball,” Jack O’Connor said afterwards. “We were keeping Cork in the game by turning over the ball in our forward third. We had seven face-up turnovers in the first half – just handpasses going astray, bad options, forcing passes.
“It was a sign we weren’t up to championship pace and I wasn’t surprised by that because five weeks is a long time without a game particularly when you don’t play a challenge game, particularly when you have a share of injuries. I expected lads to be rusty and there was plenty of evidence of that.
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“We were expecting a battle and we were almost looking forward to a battle and we got that for long enough to get value out of the game big time. Maybe it was a bit flattering near the end and I don’t think the scoreline does justice to the challenge that Cork put up.”
Throughout the first three-quarters of the game, Cork refused to go away. When Stephen O’Brien, Paudie Clifford and O’Shea wriggled through for a trio of early scores, Stephen Sherlock replied with a monster free from just outside the 45. Kerry were insistent and pushed on with back-to-back frees by O’Shea but Sherlock matched them from a variety of angles at the other end.
By half-time, it all meant a slightly uneasy 0-9 to 0-7 lead for Kerry. Tony Brosnan and the excellent Diarmuid O’Connor added a bit of gloss with late points after Sherlock had levelled on the half hour. But the home crowd still had good reason to cheer Cork off at the break.
Gallop up All the more so when Cork asserted themselves through the third quarter. Kerry had their cushion – O’Shea was popping his frees with languid regularity. But it looked for a time that they would need every bit of it.
Debutant Cathail O’Mahony landed a couple of booming points from out around the 45, Kevin O’Donovan scuttled forward from corner back to grab one of his own. The younger Clifford was being held at the other end and Cork were the side with the gallop up.
The Kerry manager had seen enough. O’Connor made three substitutions in three minutes, throwing Paul Geaney, David Moran, Paul Murphy all onto the pitch, just the 312 senior games for Kerry between them.
Geaney sniped a point, creating his own space by sending O’Brien off on a dummy run and flicking the score himself. Moran immediately dominated midfield, bludgeoning the Cork kick-out and repeatedly sending Gavin White and Diarmuid O’Connor scurrying into Cork territory.
Bit by bit, Kerry eased clear. O’Shea iced a 45 and ticked along with his frees as the Cork tackling got ever more tired. O’Brien and Paudie Clifford whistled over a couple more as the cover fell off. For a 10-minute period, Cork couldn’t get out of their own half – Kerry rattled off seven points in a row and that was that.
Cork will take plenty from the evening, although injuries to goalkeeper Micheál Martin and Clifford’s tormenter Flahive will leave them down bodies for the qualifiers. But this was a start. For where they are, certainly relative to where Kerry are, it was probably enough.
“We knew facing this Kerry team that if they got a run on you there could be two or three goals and you could be facing an embarrassing defeat,” said interim manager John Cleary afterwards.
“I think the very fact it was here in front of the home fans with a great atmosphere and everything like that – everybody inside before the game said we’d work as hard as we can for as long as we can.
“Ian Maguire and Seán Powter probably shouldn’t have been out there at all but they led the thing and I think the other lads rowed in behind it. So while well beaten we’d have to be, I wouldn’t say happy with the display, but proud with the way the lads put their bodies on the line.”
CORK: Michéal Martin; Kevin O’Donovan (0-1), Maurice Shanley, Kevin Flahive; John Cooper, Rory Maguire, Mattie Taylor; Ian Maguire, Colm O’Callaghan; Daniel Dineen, Seán Powter, John O’Rourke; Stephen Sherlock (0-6, five frees), Brian Hurley, Cathail O’Mahony (0-3).
Subs: Dylan Foley for Martin (24 mins); Eoghan McSweeney (0-1) for Dineen (56); Damien Gore for Hurley (59); Tadhg Corkery for Powter (60); Brian Hayes for O’Rourke (65).
KERRY: Shane Ryan; Graham O’Sullivan, Jason Foley, Tom O’Sullivan; Brian Ó Beaglaoich, Tadhg Morley, Gavin White; Diarmuid O’Connor (0-1), Jack Barry; Stephen O’Brien (0-2), Seán O’Shea (0-11, eight frees, one 45), Adrian Spillane; Tony Brosnan (0-1), David Clifford (0-3, two frees), Paudie Clifford (0-2).
Subs: Paul Geaney (0-2) for Brosnan (49 mins); David Moran for Spillane (50); Paul Murphy for Ó Beaglaoich (52); Micheál Burns (0-1) for O’Brien (63); Joe O’Connor for Diarmuid O’Connor (67).
Referee: Brendan Cawley (Kildare).
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Post by givehimaball on May 9, 2022 10:22:44 GMT
Three things stood out to me. 1) It was perceived in some quarters that Kerry might have problems in midfield - you must be joking. 2) Kerry's composure throughout was impressive. 3) Kerry have a clear defensive structure and brought huge physicality - it was Dublinesque - and there are a lot of bruised and sore bodies in Cork this morning. They won't be the only victims before this year is done. Well done Kerry on taking care of business in such a professional manner. We move on. I really would not be using this game as any sort of evidence about Kerry's midfield being in good shape given how weak Cork were here. The fact that were willing to start a clearly injured Maguire and he and his midfield partner played the full game says a world about how weak their options are here currently. A lot of people getting a bit too excited about Moran's impact off the bench in my opinion - he could not have been coming into a more favourable situation for him to make an impact - Cork's two midfielders (one of whom was injured from the start) were both out on their feet and you had the Cork keeper hoofing the ball into the exact same area over and over for every single kickout. He could not have dreamed of a better sitution to be coming off the bench with 20 minutes to go. Talk of him starting based on this game is nuts.
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Post by Kingdomson on May 9, 2022 12:09:39 GMT
Colm Cooper said in his analysis on the Sunday Game that he felt "..the trick for Jack O'Conner was getting the chemistry right. There was a little disconnect between the halfback line and midfield and full forward line - that link was missing."
I'd love to ask Colm who he thinks this link person is or what is the right chemistry?
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Post by royalkerryfan on May 9, 2022 14:08:59 GMT
Colm Cooper said in his analysis on the Sunday Game that he felt "..the trick for Jack O'Conner was getting the chemistry right. There was a little disconnect between the halfback line and midfield and full forward line - that link was missing." I'd love to ask Colm who he thinks this link person is or what is the right chemistry? The big difference on Sat for me was Dara Moynihans absence.
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Post by horsebox77 on May 9, 2022 17:10:14 GMT
Three things stood out to me. 1) It was perceived in some quarters that Kerry might have problems in midfield - you must be joking. 2) Kerry's composure throughout was impressive. 3) Kerry have a clear defensive structure and brought huge physicality - it was Dublinesque - and there are a lot of bruised and sore bodies in Cork this morning. They won't be the only victims before this year is done. Well done Kerry on taking care of business in such a professional manner. We move on. I really would not be using this game as any sort of evidence about Kerry's midfield being in good shape given how weak Cork were here. The fact that were willing to start a clearly injured Maguire and he and his midfield partner played the full game says a world about how weak their options are here currently. A lot of people getting a bit too excited about Moran's impact off the bench in my opinion - he could not have been coming into a more favourable situation for him to make an impact - Cork's two midfielders (one of whom was injured from the start) were both out on their feet and you had the Cork keeper hoofing the ball into the exact same area over and over for every single kickout. He could not have dreamed of a better sitution to be coming off the bench with 20 minutes to go. Talk of him starting based on this game is nuts. Excellent post, some are letting the heard rule the head, selectors etc have to be cold and void of sentiment.
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Post by Annascaultilidie on May 9, 2022 17:15:39 GMT
Do Kerry need a focus on goals to win the All Ireland?
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Post by ryle1973 on May 9, 2022 19:11:02 GMT
Stephen O Brien's tackling/work (which he wouldn't be known for) was outstanding Saturday. He got some big turnovers. Be interesting to see if Dara Moynihan will come back in for the Munster final.
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Post by Ballyfireside on May 9, 2022 19:38:09 GMT
Firstly, can I suggest that commentators indicate if they were at the match, if only because those who couldn't make it will get a taste of what it was like to be there. Of course it will also enhance the quality of debate and we will be all the wiser having gotten more out of the contribution. Just out of interest I'm trying to gauge Jason's performance and it would help if I knew a comment was based on seeing him in the flesh, e.g. a lot of work is done off the ball. Veteran always accounts for his whereabouts and which is why we can't wait for his views. Now Royal, jazus but you're a fierce man for arguing; even with a margin of error my comment stands, now maybe we were match rusty but you insist Cork are a poor Div 4 team yet nobody can deny there was a moment of worry. Only time will tell if Derry are good or Tyrone are poor and while my guess is that based on the performances in question, Derry and Cork could be a tight enough affair though yes, Cork will always do better vs us. That was a poor post on my behalf Bally so please accept my apologise. No bother man, ah maybe I should have backed off as it was uncharacteristic, so just say 3 Hail Marys and grant me Sam and I won't breathe a word to St Peter! BTW anyone have access to this Spillane article in the Indo? - You need to be a great team to win back-to-back titles - Tyrone are the masters of the one in a row
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Post by Mickmack on May 9, 2022 21:26:21 GMT
This is one game I would love to see on screen because I just was not happy with my vantage point. I was in the main stand, low down, about thirty metres or so from the non city goal. Perhaps it is because I am not that familiar with Pairc Ui Rinn, mostly there for underage games in the past, but I always felt I was not getting a good overall view of proceedings. For instance, when Kerry went on their scoring spree in the last twenty minutes I was too disadvantaged to appreciate the action. Perhaps, if anyone has the wherewithal they would post a recording of the match on the Forum. I am looking at you Mickmack. Veteran Here it is but the sound is a bit off, You might be better of turning down the sound Mick
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Post by veteran on May 9, 2022 22:06:16 GMT
Thanks for that Mickmack. The sound won’t be a problem. Seeing is believing as they say. Will watch during the week.
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