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Post by dc84 on Apr 21, 2022 18:49:33 GMT
For actual match chat! Who would people like to see starting? Is seanie fit and who drops out to accommodate him ? Would you start Moran instead of Jack Barry?
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Post by brucewayne on Apr 21, 2022 18:58:51 GMT
Ryan Casey/O'Donoghue Foley O'Sullivan Ó Beaglaíoch Morley White O'Connor Moran A. Spillane O'Shea Moynihan P. Clifford D. Clifford Brosnan
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Post by john4 on Apr 21, 2022 19:03:10 GMT
Ryan O'Donoghue Foley O'Sullivan White Morley Beaglaoich O'Connor Barry Spillane O'Shea Moynihan O'Brien Clifford Geaney
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Post by Deleted on Apr 21, 2022 19:33:41 GMT
Ryan O Sullivan Foley O Sullivan O beagloich Morley White O Connor Barry Moynihan O Shea Spillane Clifford Clifford Geaney
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Post by dc84 on Apr 21, 2022 19:34:54 GMT
Ryan O'Donoghue Foley O'Sullivan White Morley Beaglaoich O'Connor Barry Spillane O'Shea Moynihan O'Brien Clifford Geaney Interstingly that's the team I was thinking except brosnan for geaney but that's a training ground decision I think we will need o brien before the year is out which is why id go for him over paudie or maybe Moynihan
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Post by kerryeastcoastusa on Apr 21, 2022 19:36:08 GMT
S Ryan G OSullivan J Foley T O Sullivan B O’B T Morley G White J Barry D O’C A Spillane S O’Shea D Moynihan P Clifford D Clifford P Geaney
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Post by taggert on Apr 21, 2022 19:39:15 GMT
Ryan O'Donoghue Foley O'Sullivan White Morley Beaglaoich O'Connor Barry Spillane O'Shea Moynihan O'Brien Clifford Geaney Did you forget Paudie? White and Begley swap sides too. Brosnan inside with David. O'Brien and Geaney as subs when gsme opens up.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 21, 2022 19:41:59 GMT
There is no debate to be had re Paudie. He 100% starts.
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Post by john4 on Apr 21, 2022 19:56:33 GMT
Ryan O'Donoghue Foley O'Sullivan White Morley Beaglaoich O'Connor Barry Spillane O'Shea Moynihan O'Brien Clifford Geaney Did you forget Paudie? White and Begley swap sides too. Brosnan inside with David. O'Brien and Geaney as subs when gsme opens up. 1,) No 2,) Yes you are probably correct, White on the left side. Tony Brosnan fantastic without a doubt. Think his pace would be of more benefit in the second half of matches thought.
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Post by royalkerryfan on Apr 21, 2022 20:14:14 GMT
Did you forget Paudie? White and Begley swap sides too. Brosnan inside with David. O'Brien and Geaney as subs when gsme opens up. 1,) No 2,) Yes you are probably correct, White on the left side. Tony Brosnan fantastic without a doubt. Think his pace would be of more benefit in the second half of matches thought. OBrien instead of Paidi ? Would be interested in the rational behind that.
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Post by horsebox77 on Apr 21, 2022 20:25:13 GMT
I think we will see more or less the starting XV from the league final.
In fairness to Jack he has tried and picked form players from the local championship and to be really fair, he has in my opinion addressed some of the long standing issues that have been our Achilles heel, the porous defense, the lack of cover for the full back line, the slow build up and the quick ball to attack.
For me, I’d be leaning towards the league final side with the inclusion of Seanie,
Ryan, Graham, Jason, Tom Sull, Briòn, Tadgh, Gavin White, Diarmuid, Jack Barry, Adrain, Seanie, Dara Moynihan, Clifford, Geaney and Paudie.
Tony Brosnan is unlucky but I think between he and Geaney, I think the Crokes man is a better off the bench and in fairness, Geaney has been in better form in the latter stages of the league, similar, Adrain and Dara Moynihan have been rejuvenated under the Dromid man and in fairness, no one can deny the influence of Paddy Tally.
The real bonus for me has been the serious return to form of Tadgh Morley, the impressive form of Jason Foley and the workman like performances of Adrain and Dara have really solidified our defence unit.
We are in a good place, what is really impressive is we now have a bench and options in all sectors of the field, options that when introduced will not weaken the side but more enhance and push us over the line.
I just wish the Munster Council would get the finger out and nail down the issue, background noise and distractions can have a negative effect, we don’t want a repeat of the all Ireland semi final vs Tyrone,
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Post by john4 on Apr 21, 2022 20:42:04 GMT
1,) No 2,) Yes you are probably correct, White on the left side. Tony Brosnan fantastic without a doubt. Think his pace would be of more benefit in the second half of matches thought. OBrien instead of Paidi ? Would be interested in the rational behind that. Don't know why Stephen O'Brien is seen as the one to make way for Paudie, He'd a good league and covered Croke Park in the final. The team I named is the league final team with Graham O'Sullivan out for Dan O'Donoghue, that could go the other way aswell. Graham O'Sullivan is right good too. The other change is Sean O'Shea back on the 40 instead of Paudie. You'd have 2 outstanding footballers in Brosnan and Paudie to come in to finish the game. I think it would be a more balanced team this way. It's not in any way a criticism of Paudie Clifford but others named have a lot to offer also.
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Post by royalkerryfan on Apr 21, 2022 20:54:46 GMT
OBrien instead of Paidi ? Would be interested in the rational behind that. Don't know why Stephen O'Brien is seen as the one to make way for Paudie, He'd a good league and covered Croke Park in the final. The team I named is the league final team with Graham O'Sullivan out for Dan O'Donoghue, that could go the other way aswell. Graham O'Sullivan is right good too. The other change is Sean O'Shea back on the 40 instead of Paudie. You'd have 2 outstanding footballers in Brosnan and Paudie to come in to finish the game. I think it would be a more balanced team this way. It's not in any way a criticism of Paudie Clifford but others named have a lot to offer also. Fair play John that's fair enough, For me Stephen had a great game against Armagh and was arguably the poorest of the starting forwards against Mayo He got turned over a few times. For me he's an impact sub this year and Paidi is a starter all day long.
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Post by Mickmack on Apr 21, 2022 21:06:46 GMT
I think SoB is now a 35 minutes player and whether he plays the first half or the second half is moot.
He is very experienced now, cute out. He will kick a few points and will draw fouls or a penalty.
That last point PG kicked v Tyrone in Killarney showed the cuteness of SoB. He was fouled about 50 yards out but attempted the quick free knowing it would be blocked....ball in moved forward 10 metres to within the range of PG. PG gave him a pat on the back for that bit of cuteness.
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Post by horsebox77 on Apr 21, 2022 21:45:05 GMT
Cork update have informed us of the loss of Maguire and Powlter, I have read no update or seen anything online on the status of the Kerry panel. Does anyone know the extent of the progress of the players that missed the latter stages of the league, O’Donoghue and Seanie. Similarly even though Moran was named on the bench for the league final, he has seen only club action since …. Any update here.
Eamon initially introduced the locked gates polices, PK to a degree continued this thread…. Was is Jacks stance. I understand that certain sessions where set plays, formations and tailored game plans are being honed, these are out of bounds and rightly so. But are there any open sessions, I take it most sessions are now in Curran’s ya and not in Killarney.
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Post by thehermit on Apr 22, 2022 11:00:59 GMT
Might I suggest we all sing the following in the stands (wherever they may be)
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Post by Annascaultilidie on Apr 22, 2022 19:00:48 GMT
I always thought Dara Moynihan a nugget.
Not of gold but of granite.
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Post by clarinman on Apr 22, 2022 19:28:37 GMT
I always thought Dara Moynihan a nugget. Not of gold but of granite. I myself am sceptical of him on the big days but he had a great league no doubt I have great time for Dara but he seems to be injury prone. Got thrown in against Tyrone last year when he was clearly not fit. Again he missed a few games in the league this year due to injury. Would love to see him have an injury free season so we can see his real potential.
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Post by royalkerryfan on Apr 22, 2022 19:51:40 GMT
I've great time for Dara, He is excellent in the tackle, great passer and a brilliant engine. I think he may pick up a few injuries as he isint the biggest lad but he puts himself about like he is.
He's also a very likeable lad if you heard his recent interview on Adam Moynihans new Kerry football podcast.
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Post by Mickmack on Apr 23, 2022 8:38:27 GMT
I've great time for Dara, He is excellent in the tackle, great passer and a brilliant engine. I think he may pick up a few injuries as he isint the biggest lad but he puts himself about like he is. He's also a very likeable lad if you heard his recent interview on Adam Moynihans new Kerry football podcast. You dont mention the key attribute of a half forward though....regular scorer. It looks like Adrian has one half forward spot nailed down. He isnt a regular scorer albeit he got two in the league final. I think the other two in in half forward line needs to be scoring regularly. One is SoS. The other slot is the puzzle. SoB for 30 mins certainly.
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Post by pillar on Apr 23, 2022 8:46:04 GMT
Cork update have informed us of the loss of Maguire and Powlter, I have read no update or seen anything online on the status of the Kerry panel. Does anyone know the extent of the progress of the players that missed the latter stages of the league, O’Donoghue and Seanie. Similarly even though Moran was named on the bench for the league final, he has seen only club action since …. Any update here. Eamon initially introduced the locked gates polices, PK to a degree continued this thread…. Was is Jacks stance. I understand that certain sessions where set plays, formations and tailored game plans are being honed, these are out of bounds and rightly so. But are there any open sessions, I take it most sessions are now in Curran’s ya and not in Killarney. Training in Killarney this week anyway with a steward on the gate
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Post by dc84 on Apr 23, 2022 8:51:53 GMT
I've great time for Dara, He is excellent in the tackle, great passer and a brilliant engine. I think he may pick up a few injuries as he isint the biggest lad but he puts himself about like he is. He's also a very likeable lad if you heard his recent interview on Adam Moynihans new Kerry football podcast. You dont mention the key attribute of a half forward though....regular scorer. It looks like Adrian has one half forward spot nailed down. He isnt a regular scorer albeit he got two in the league final. I think the other two in in half forward line needs to be scoring regularly. One is SoS. The other slot is the puzzle. SoB for 30 mins certainly. Dara is a great bit of stuff i think he needs to back himself more in the scoring stakes though to get to next level he is more than capable.
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Post by veteran on Apr 23, 2022 8:56:09 GMT
While accepting the appalling weather conditions in Cork two years ago was a significant leveler people here would also do well to remember 2015 in Killarney where Kerry as All-Ireland champions were raging hot favorites. We needed a last gasp point from Fionn Fitzgerald to earn a draw. What I am saying is, treat your opponent with respect.
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Post by thehermit on Apr 23, 2022 9:04:29 GMT
Ah I think everyone has respect for Cork football in terms of their tradition, history and their frequent ability to come out of nowhere with a performance Veteran.
Saying that this current team has lost a hell of a lot of respect over their antics off the pitch this past month. As I said in another post, all that should be used by Kerry as the extra motivation they need to ward of any complacency.
Jack should be going to the lads, we'll if they want to make PUR their hill lets blitz it and send them scurrying!
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Post by Mickmack on Apr 23, 2022 9:16:53 GMT
Armagh had a great team between 2002 and 2006 but only one All Ireland to show for it.
They had Oisin, Ronan Clarke and the great Stevie McDonnell in the full forward line. Marsden was there before Clarke.
But their half forward line didnt score enough. In the 2006 semi final V Kerry only one point came from their half forward line for example...
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Post by Kerryman Randy Savage on Apr 23, 2022 9:39:31 GMT
Armagh had a great team between 2002 and 2006 but only one All Ireland to show for it. They had Oisin, Ronan Clarke and the great Stevie McDonnell in the full forward line. Marsden was there before Clarke. But their half forward line didnt score enough. In the 2006 semi final V Kerry only one point came from their half forward line for example... I thought Armagh were the better team in 2000 than their win in 2002.
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Post by Mickmack on Apr 23, 2022 9:58:33 GMT
The Kerry half forward line that started v Tyrone last year also only got one point from play...from SoS.
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Post by tpo on Apr 23, 2022 10:00:12 GMT
Armagh's problem then, they played a midfielder as cover for CHB and a half forward then to midfield. They has 4 of best forwards in the country but were too defensive
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Post by Mickmack on Apr 23, 2022 10:22:28 GMT
Armagh's problem then, they played a midfielder as cover for CHB and a half forward then to midfield. They has 4 of best forwards in the country but were too defensive We are playing a half forward as cover for midfield too. What do you think is the best starting 5 forwards, apart from Adrian.. to put up scores
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Post by dc84 on Apr 23, 2022 10:45:43 GMT
In fairness with armagh there was a fair few decent teams around that time in 2000 lost to us after replay , 2001 lost by a point to winners Galway in 03 lost to Tyrone. All of those teams had serious forwards aswell 03 they probably felt they left behind them 04 and 05 aswell vs Tyrone in semi . I always felt once Marsden left they didn't have the squad to keep it going beyond Ulster. We ended that team as realistic all ireland winners in 06 one of my favourite kerry wins even with galvin getting sent off we finished better than them Darrens goal will live in my memory for a long time !
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