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Post by royalkerryfan on Apr 30, 2022 10:33:26 GMT
Sure its been a Saturday evening game since 2018 hasn't it? In 18 and 19 they were Saturday night fixtures in PUC. The chat will start in earnest after this weekend, sure there's only so much you can talk about given no news is filtering through yet of status of the panel. And the venue stuff has kept us fairly busy too commentating on it. I've been told I've a ticket sorted so happy days. Looking forward to heading down to Cork and making a weekend of it, with Munster playing before the Kerry game. Between the venue, Darragh's article and everything else you would assume it will be a bit of a cauldron at the start anyway.I wonder what the split will be in terms of Kerry v Cork fans - will a big home crowd turn up? You may stop in Portlaoise on Sunday on your way home Hermit.
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Post by The16thMan on Apr 30, 2022 11:00:32 GMT
Páirc Uí Rinn I feel will provide a real Championship atmosphere next Saturday. John Cleary in his 1st game as Interim manager will be looking to take a real scalp. I feel like it will be a tight 1st half with the crowd getting behind Cork and eventually Kerry to pull away early after half time. No matter how the standard is, Kerry don't like losing to Cork and vice versa so there will be a lot of pride on the line, Cork with nothing at all to lose. Kerry are currently 1/50 to win this game and hopefully will be in good shape going into the game. I've been told a lot of team building has been done with Kerry since the league final which will only bring on the bond more. It was also good to see q good chunk of the squad in Tralee together Monday for the U20 final. Finally, what a great warm up to have in the in form Kerry ladies. It will be a lot of Kerry supporters first time seeing them in action and they deserve the support after their league victory. Overall, I am very much looking forward to next Saturday evening. Cíarraí Abú
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Post by thehermit on Apr 30, 2022 11:26:29 GMT
Sure its been a Saturday evening game since 2018 hasn't it? In 18 and 19 they were Saturday night fixtures in PUC. The chat will start in earnest after this weekend, sure there's only so much you can talk about given no news is filtering through yet of status of the panel. And the venue stuff has kept us fairly busy too commentating on it. I've been told I've a ticket sorted so happy days. Looking forward to heading down to Cork and making a weekend of it, with Munster playing before the Kerry game. Between the venue, Darragh's article and everything else you would assume it will be a bit of a cauldron at the start anyway.I wonder what the split will be in terms of Kerry v Cork fans - will a big home crowd turn up? You may stop in Portlaoise on Sunday on your way home Hermit.
That will depend on the good graces of herself Royal - I can just about get away with bringing her down to Cork so long as she gets to wander around before the match!
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Post by KY50 on Apr 30, 2022 15:38:40 GMT
Cork are Kerry s biggest rivals full stop. The last few years Dublin have had our number and we would like to beat them same as Tyrone in the 00s but no team has beaten Kerry in championship football more than Cork. Cork have slipped but still our biggest rivals and will always be for me. Also I can never take a Cork team for granted even this one. I also expect Cork to meet us with rebel fire in the first half and whole I expect us to win nothing shocks me with Cork. This game might be alot tighter than people think. Only once in championship football was David Clifford held scoreless from play and that was last year v Cork and we won that easy. Game will be very tight, Cork well up for this one, had a number of challenge games in PUR in recent weeks and apparently starting to move well.Game will also need a strong referee
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Post by decondd2 on Apr 30, 2022 19:45:26 GMT
If we get over Cork the Munster Final should be in Killarney right?
We last played Limerick in 2011(?) Which took place in the Gaelic Grounds I think. We played them later in the year in Croke Park as well.
Then we played Tipp in Semple Stadium last year.
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Post by Annascaultilidie on Apr 30, 2022 20:04:26 GMT
If we get over Cork the Munster Final should be in Killarney right? We last played Limerick in 2011(?) Which took place in the Gaelic Grounds I think. We played them later in the year in Croke Park as well. Then we played Tipp in Semple Stadium last year. I was at a Kerry-Limerick match in Limerick around that time. The match was notable due to the appearance of one of the Limerick subs. Without putting too fine a point on it, he would have looked more at home as a substitute prop in Thomand Park.
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Post by decondd2 on Apr 30, 2022 20:22:31 GMT
If we get over Cork the Munster Final should be in Killarney right? We last played Limerick in 2011(?) Which took place in the Gaelic Grounds I think. We played them later in the year in Croke Park as well. Then we played Tipp in Semple Stadium last year. I was at a Kerry-Limerick match in Limerick around that time. The match was notable due to the appearance of one of the Limerick subs. Without putting too fine a point on it, he would have looked more at home as a substitute prop in Thomand Park. Bleached blonde lad? He had a brother on the panel as well. Spent the game trying to fight Kerry players. A quick Google suggests it might have been James Kelly.
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Post by The16thMan on Apr 30, 2022 20:23:11 GMT
If we get over Cork the Munster Final should be in Killarney right? We last played Limerick in 2011(?) Which took place in the Gaelic Grounds I think. We played them later in the year in Croke Park as well. Then we played Tipp in Semple Stadium last year. Ya I can't remember playing Limerick since in Munster so I assume the final will be in Killarney
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Post by Annascaultilidie on Apr 30, 2022 20:25:54 GMT
I was at a Kerry-Limerick match in Limerick around that time. The match was notable due to the appearance of one of the Limerick subs. Without putting too fine a point on it, he would have looked more at home as a substitute prop in Thomand Park. Bleached blonde lad? He had a brother on the panel as well. Spent the game trying to fight Kerry players. I would be happy to leave the player unnamed. Definitely tried to start some rows. Was not in the physical condition one would expect of an intercounty player.
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Post by KY50 on Apr 30, 2022 21:14:38 GMT
Lads, we have to beat.Cork first
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Post by mike70 on May 1, 2022 11:17:58 GMT
Cork are marked as a beaten docket within and outside their own county, this gives that group of players a free shot at Kerry, Cleary is a smart manager, came out of the days cork were beating kerry, he will have his limited resources all geared up to take this free shot at kerry, as well as trying to rise some cork rebels. The world against them, and the work Cleary has put into the squad and on In PUR, might just keep it competitive for awhile.
We expect kerry to win out by 7 to 10, but if cork can muster a defensive system, it might just frustrate us for awhile, but Kerry to win no matter what.
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Post by KY50 on May 1, 2022 17:37:30 GMT
Cork are marked as a beaten docket within and outside their own county, this gives that group of players a free shot at Kerry, Cleary is a smart manager, came out of the days cork were beating kerry, he will have his limited resources all geared up to take this free shot at kerry, as well as trying to rise some cork rebels. The world against them, and the work Cleary has put into the squad and on In PUR, might just keep it competitive for awhile. We expect kerry to win out by 7 to 10, but if cork can muster a defensive system, it might just frustrate us for awhile, but Kerry to win no matter what. Interesting result on Derry v Tyrone Div 2. V Div 1, again looks like everyone here is under estimating Cork, championship a different ball game, remember 2020 again, this time on PUR
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Post by royalkerryfan on May 1, 2022 18:46:48 GMT
Based on all logic if Cork win its the shock of the year if not more.
It's not arrogance or cockiness but based on form and experience.
Cork are missing arguably their 3 best players and sadly their manager regardless of how good his replacement is.
Kerry +8 would be reasonable I feel.
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Post by Ballyfireside on May 1, 2022 19:10:51 GMT
Healey Park today showed what can happen in a local derby and it would hardly be the first time the rebels taught us a lesson - Darragh salted 'em nicely during the week, a key ingredient!
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Post by royalkerryfan on May 1, 2022 19:51:13 GMT
Healey Park today showed what can happen in a local derby and it would hardly be the first time the rebels taught us a lesson - Darragh salted 'em nicely during the week, a key ingredient! Absolutely no comparison, Derry have 3 lads, McKaigue, McGuigan and Glass that would walk onto any team in Ireland. Cork don't. Cork are in a poor place and Derry are a coming team.
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Post by southward on May 1, 2022 20:06:41 GMT
Cork are marked as a beaten docket within and outside their own county, this gives that group of players a free shot at Kerry, Cleary is a smart manager, came out of the days cork were beating kerry, he will have his limited resources all geared up to take this free shot at kerry, as well as trying to rise some cork rebels. The world against them, and the work Cleary has put into the squad and on In PUR, might just keep it competitive for awhile. We expect kerry to win out by 7 to 10, but if cork can muster a defensive system, it might just frustrate us for awhile, but Kerry to win no matter what. Interesting result on Derry v Tyrone Div 2. V Div 1, again looks like everyone here is under estimating Cork, championship a different ball game, remember 2020 again, this time on PUR I'm not sure it's possible to underestimate Cork at the moment.
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Post by mike70 on May 1, 2022 20:08:26 GMT
Based on all logic if Cork win its the shock of the year if not more. It's not arrogance or cockiness but based on form and experience. Cork are missing arguably their 3 best players and sadly their manager regardless of how good his replacement is. Kerry +8 would be reasonable I feel. Exactly my summary as well, all based on form, one word of caution, don’t be surprised if Maguire is playing.
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Post by royalkerryfan on May 1, 2022 20:09:46 GMT
The players won't underestimate Cork after that awful night in November.
However this is a fans forum and we are entitled to a bit of rational debate based on actual evidence rather than a bygone view of the fixture.
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Post by Mickmack on May 1, 2022 20:25:12 GMT
Interesting result on Derry v Tyrone Div 2. V Div 1, again looks like everyone here is under estimating Cork, championship a different ball game, remember 2020 again, this time on PUR Many on here are not under estimating Cork. I'm always wary of Cork especially in Cork. You are new here so here is what has happened in recent years. Once things go pear shaped, the very vocal few who are super confident before a big match immediately turn on the manager and poor Donie Buckley is held up as the saviour. Its part of the rhythm of life really now at this stage. Prematurely Dancing on Dublins grave is also part of it.
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Post by royalkerryfan on May 1, 2022 20:43:50 GMT
Many on here are not under estimating Cork. I'm always wary of Cork especially in Cork. You are new here so here is what has happened in recent years. Once things go pear shaped, the very vocal few who are super confident before a big match immediately turn on the manager and poor Donie Buckley is held up as the saviour. Its part of the rhythm of life really now at this stage. Prematurely Dancing on Dublins grave is also part of it. Thanks be to god we have you Mick to bring us back down to earth with you're contributions.
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Post by Mickmack on May 1, 2022 21:06:56 GMT
Corks main scoring threat, Stephen Sherlock missed Corks first two league games against Clare and Roscommon as he was involved with St Finbarrs in the club championship.
He ended as their top scorer in the league.
Cork got more scores that Derry in the league and Derry came third behind Galway and Roscommon.
It looks like Corks greatest need is to shore up their defence.
Will they just put men behind the ball like the u20s and keep it as tight as they can for as long as they can? If they play with the same heart as their u20s you would think it will be competitive. The PUC hold out is bound to have helped morale.
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Post by dc84 on May 1, 2022 21:49:02 GMT
Yerrah
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Post by taggert on May 1, 2022 22:34:10 GMT
I expect Kerry to win Sat night next. The tougher the contest and the longer its in the melting pot, the better most likely for Kerry and their summer ambitions, as we will learn more.
When it comes to Cork, Kerry have seen both sides of the coin in recent seasons which will be very informative - if Kerry don't bring the proper focus, intent and application, they know what can happen. There's no excuses really and any malfunction should start with the protagonists looking in the mirror first of all.
If we are serious about winning the All Ireland, the drive and performance standard needs to come from within. That wasnt there the last few years when the team picked itself and the guys on the bench made up the numbers. It was a cosy cartel, manifest in coming up short when it truly counted.
I couldnt care less who plays for Cork on the night. The great teams like Limerick in Hurling and Dublins 6 in a row in football focused on themselves and bringing their best performances out consistently. Its where we need to get to and this year its time to * or get off the pot.....
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Post by Mickmack on May 1, 2022 22:41:45 GMT
I see Mark Keane got a straight red today for the hurlers. Thats him gone for a month now i think.
Could he play football for Cork or does a straight red count for both codes.
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Post by taggert on May 1, 2022 22:50:15 GMT
Not sure but both reds from that game will be rescinded or won on appeal. Ref got both wrong, it would seem, per the footage. Think Keane threw his lot in with the Hurlers quite publically so only rancour would ensue if Cleary called him in for the footballers.
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Post by Kingdomson on May 1, 2022 22:52:17 GMT
Cork are consistent in their inconsistency and that’s just within any given match these days, let alone from game to game. It’s not about underestimating Cork because there is no serious form and the reality is they have not won a Munster title since 2012. For both sides it’s about a performance and while we know a freak result can happen in a hurricane on all known form there will only be one winner and by most probably a substantial margin in the end.
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Post by tpo on May 2, 2022 10:05:23 GMT
Weather looking good for Saturday. Any public transport from city center to PUC ?
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Post by Kerryman Randy Savage on May 2, 2022 10:09:50 GMT
Weather looking good for Saturday. Any public transport from city center to PUC ? You'll be on your own there. PUR maybe 😂
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Post by Kerryman Randy Savage on May 2, 2022 10:50:27 GMT
Regarding Clifford kept scoreless, that was more to do with him attracting attention from a number of rebels that allowed the rest of the team to feast on the carcass.
Begley's goal v Cork and the Cork defence moves away from him so he just strolls in and lets rip.
Clifford did have a few poor shots too but it wasn't one on one like people like to portray.
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Post by royalkerryfan on May 2, 2022 11:41:02 GMT
Regarding Clifford kept scoreless, that was more to do with him attracting attention from a number of rebels that allowed the rest of the team to feast on the carcass. Begley's goal v Cork and the Cork defence moves away from him so he just strolls in and lets rip. Clifford did have a few poor shots too but it wasn't one on one like people like to portray. No it was nt one oo one persais but I was on teracce behind goal Kerry were playing into in 2nd half and Seán Meehan did a great job on him and many times man to man Open to correction but I believe Meehan is out with a serious injury.
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