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Post by thehermit on Apr 23, 2022 12:02:37 GMT
Yeah 2006 was sweet alright, was on a fairly deserted Hill for it, had a great view of Star announcing his arrival to the GAA world.
Can't believe that was only the curtain raiser to the Cork/Donegal game after, without doubt one of the worst games of football I ever had to endure in the flesh.
Armagh deserved an All Ireland for sure, but still it was another one we kind of threw away. We were very comfortable at half time, I remember thinking all we need to do is come out and tap over the first point or two and that should be enough to steer us home, alas Armagh wrestled the initiative back.
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Post by Mickmack on Apr 23, 2022 12:28:19 GMT
After Stevie kicked the lead point there must have been 7 minutes in which Kerry couldnt create and execute an equaliser against Armaghs defense.
Armagh also missed a peno too in fairness.
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Post by fitz on Apr 23, 2022 21:16:02 GMT
After Stevie kicked the lead point there must have been 7 minutes in which Kerry couldnt create and execute an equaliser against Armaghs defense. Armagh also missed a peno too in fairness. Eoin Brosnan looked like he had nailed an equalizer only for it to tail left. He hit post in first half. Ah one left behind for sure |
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Post by mike70 on Apr 23, 2022 21:27:43 GMT
Lads, I don’t think you will play David and Tony from the off, there both left leg dominated, Paudie starter all day , SOB to the bench.
The rest remains the same as league final with seanie n Dave Moran in.
The subs on the day will be dictated by the opposition set up, until qtr final it should be straight forward.
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Post by Mickmack on Apr 26, 2022 11:30:33 GMT
I'd say Jack is delighted that the game in on in Cork. So am i. Last years mismatch did nothing for Kerry other than to foster over confidence etc. Lads who look great going through a wide open defense like a knife through butter tend to get a rude awakening when time and space is removed.
I am hopeful now that Cork will test Kerrys mettle and expose any weaknesses . Jack will be remembering the NCT provided by Cork in 2006 and 2009 when Kerry won the All Ireland.
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Post by fitz on Apr 26, 2022 12:45:03 GMT
How are they going to do it though? Will they become 50% better because of location and cos it's Kerry and that it's Chamionship? On league form there's no way. Let's see I suppose...
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Post by dc84 on Apr 26, 2022 13:43:01 GMT
How are they going to do it though? Will they become 50% better because of location and cos it's Kerry and that it's Chamionship? On league form there's no way. Let's see I suppose... I know its cork and they will come out flying just like last year (when they had probably a better team). And i know people will talk about 2 years ago but cork should not be getting near us same as tipp, clare or limerick we are playing a d2 team and one lucky enough to be there Killarney probably worth 5 or 6 points to us but my prediction would be just like last year close first 20 then our superior fitness, speed and overall ability will push us 3 or 4 ahead and we will pull away in 2nd half to win by 10ish. If we manage to lose this Jack should be gone straight away signing a covenent to never take another kerry team again! |
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Post by dc84 on Apr 26, 2022 13:43:17 GMT
How are they going to do it though? Will they become 50% better because of location and cos it's Kerry and that it's Chamionship? On league form there's no way. Let's see I suppose... I know its cork and they will come out flying just like last year (when they had probably a better team). And i know people will talk about 2 years ago but cork should not be getting near us same as tipp, clare or limerick we are playing a d2 team and one lucky enough to be there Killarney probably worth 5 or 6 points to us but my prediction would be just like last year close first 20 then our superior fitness, speed and overall ability will push us 3 or 4 ahead and we will pull away in 2nd half to win by 10ish. If we manage to lose this Jack should be gone straight away signing a covenent to never take another kerry team again! |
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Post by horsebox77 on Apr 26, 2022 14:04:54 GMT
Jez, your sharpening the knife early . Cork will be fired up and will more than match us in hunger and will under John Cleary, unfortunately though in skill, talent and three years of S&C under the belt, I can't see Cork troubling us over the 79 minutes.
Back to the topic of S&C, I think progression and consistency is vital here, Limerick have changed this aspect of their back room staff and the level if hamstring injuries and strains is mounting.
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Post by The16thMan on Apr 26, 2022 14:43:41 GMT
So we're about 10 days put from the match. Anybody have word on any injuries or players available/unavailable for the game. I assume Jack will continue to play the strongest team available throughout the Munster campaign. I think the backs and forwards are more or less settled. What is interesting is who takes the place at midfield with Diarmuid, will it be Joe, Jack or Moran?
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Post by jackiel on Apr 26, 2022 22:06:46 GMT
Has anyone got any insight on the possibility of non season ticket holders getting a ticket.
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Post by john4 on Apr 26, 2022 22:26:30 GMT
Has anyone got any insight on the possibility of non season ticket holders getting a ticket. Through the participating county boards ONLY is my understanding. |
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Post by Kerryman Randy Savage on Apr 26, 2022 22:35:15 GMT
Has anyone got any insight on the possibility of non season ticket holders getting a ticket. You a registered member with a club? Contact the secretary about what's the story with getting tickets. If not, know anyone who is and ask them to do the same. |
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Post by jackiel on Apr 26, 2022 22:37:38 GMT
Has anyone got any insight on the possibility of non season ticket holders getting a ticket. Through the participating county boards ONLY is my understanding. Cheers, |
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Post by jackiel on Apr 26, 2022 22:41:17 GMT
Has anyone got any insight on the possibility of non season ticket holders getting a ticket. You a registered member with a club? Contact the secretary about what's the story with getting tickets. If not, know anyone who is and ask them to do the same. I'm in Meath so no club affiliation in Kerry. Will put the word out with contacts. |
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Post by dc84 on Apr 27, 2022 10:39:49 GMT
So we're about 10 days put from the match. Anybody have word on any injuries or players available/unavailable for the game. I assume Jack will continue to play the strongest team available throughout the Munster campaign. I think the backs and forwards are more or less settled. What is interesting is who takes the place at midfield with Diarmuid, will it be Joe, Jack or Moran? You would imagine Jack he is the man in possession of the jersey and didn't do much wrong vs mayo. Yeah fairly settled look to us now at least 12 guaranteed you would think I suppose there could be one defensive and one forward position available depending on choice/form. |
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Post by veteran on Apr 27, 2022 10:56:34 GMT
Dara Ó Sé on the "Times" saying Cork footballers have been a disgrace the last few years. Why does he feel the need to do this? Himself and Tomás were at the same thing before 2020 match and we got our noses rubbed. Maybe that won't be put up on the Cork wall. I agree with you Mick. For two fellows who were always reluctant to express an opinion during their playing career , since their retirement they are never backward about coming forward, I understand they are now being paid for their opinions but a little more circumspection would not be out of place. Just in case somebody might retort if you are good enough you will win regardless , professional sportspeople constantly speak about being motivated about what an opponent/ team said in the build up to a contest. That is the nature of the beast. In other words you should not give ammunition to your adversary. |
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Post by Annascaultilidie on Apr 27, 2022 11:00:18 GMT
It is probably worse that a Kerry player might think they could write off a Cork team, versus a player on the Cork team being written off publicly by a former Kerry player.
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Post by john4 on Apr 27, 2022 11:03:54 GMT
If Cork need to find motivation from the words of a former Kerry player, then they're in worse place than I thought previously.
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Post by dc84 on Apr 27, 2022 11:25:56 GMT
It's getting me interested and fired up anyway!
If a kerry cork game doesn't have a bit of needle I give up you could see what it meant to both sets of players on Monday id say there will be a fair bit of belting on Saturday week and a fired up crowd exactly what we need!
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Post by Mickmack on Apr 27, 2022 11:37:40 GMT
I'd say Jack in delighted. Didnt he put Brendan Guiney marking Paul Galvin one time to try to get the pulses racing.
The more this becomes a battle the better for Jack.
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Post by Mickmack on Apr 27, 2022 12:50:01 GMT
If Cork need to find motivation from the words of a former Kerry player, then they're in worse place than I thought previously. Yes John but its extra motivation. The same thing could be said in 2020 and I remember Cork lads I worked with going crazy over the Ó Sé s comments then and Cork nipped us. There's an ole saying "never give a sicker an even break". Keep the trap shut and write all you want when game is over. If Cork beat Kerry then the Kerry team and performance wont be good enough to win the All Ireland so changes and improved performance will be needed. Better to discover that before knockout stage. 2020 was straight knockout. |
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Post by baurtregaum on Apr 27, 2022 13:02:42 GMT
If Cork need to find motivation from the words of a former Kerry player, then they're in worse place than I thought previously. I think if Darragh thought Cork were a serious threat he would turn up the cute-hoor stuff. I think Kerry pundits (and oftentimes fans) are between a rock and a hard place really - pull you punches and you are giving it the yerra/cute hoor, or call it as you see it and be labeled an arrogant XXX. |
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Post by john4 on Apr 27, 2022 13:10:23 GMT
If Cork need to find motivation from the words of a former Kerry player, then they're in worse place than I thought previously. Yes John but its extra motivation. The same thing could be said in 2020 and I remember Cork lads I worked with going crazy over the Ó Sé s comments then and Cork nipped us. There's an ole saying "never give a sicker an even break". Keep the trap shut and write all you want when game is over. If an intercounty footballer gives less than 100% of himself in a Championship match against Kerry, his management team and indeed the culture within the county in question have serious problems. The point I'm making I suppose is that everything that happens outside of Cork football's own internal preparations for Kerry should have no influence on their performance if they're properly prepared and motivated by their own ambitions. So if Dara gets under their skin, they've a problem. |
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Post by dc84 on Apr 30, 2022 8:02:29 GMT
I can't believe how quiet this thread is seven days out from a clash with our biggest rivals. Dublin are our biggest rivals! It shows how much this fixture has declined in importance coupled with it being in a small league venue it feels like a small game |
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Post by horsebox77 on Apr 30, 2022 8:12:12 GMT
I can't believe how quiet this thread is seven days out from a clash with our biggest rivals. Dublin are our biggest rivals! It shows how much this fixture has declined in importance coupled with it being in a small league venue it feels like a small game I'm inclined to agree but in saying that there was some crowd in Killarney for a Mickey Mouse McGrath Cup Final that the game was pushed by fifteen minutes, admittedly the Munster Council have devalued, even moving to a Saturday for me dilutes the occasion but still, it's Cork, just like Mayo/Galway or Dublin/Meath. Even taking the above into account, it's still tumbleweed seven days out. |
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Post by john4 on Apr 30, 2022 8:33:50 GMT
Dublin are our biggest rivals! It shows how much this fixture has declined in importance coupled with it being in a small league venue it feels like a small game I'm inclined to agree but in saying that there was some crowd in Killarney for a Mickey Mouse McGrath Cup Final that the game was pushed by fifteen minutes, admittedly the Munster Council have devalued, even moving to a Saturday for me dilutes the occasion but still, it's Cork, just like Mayo/Galway or Dublin/Meath. Even taking the above into account, it's still tumbleweed seven days out. Regardless of Cork's drop in form in recent years, Kerry v Cork is still a wonderful occasion and would have drawn well over 20,000 if on in Killarney. I agree that it's a backward step that this fixture has been assigned the Saturday evening time but I'm assuming again that Sky Sports have been given the authority to decide this, which is very unfortunate imo. |
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Post by Fado on Apr 30, 2022 8:38:15 GMT
Far too quiet right now, tis the calm before the storm.
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Post by thehermit on Apr 30, 2022 9:05:29 GMT
Dublin are not our biggest rivals Cork are and always will be regardless of them going through an unprecedented decade of mediocrity.
Look at Dublin's actualy history - won most of their All Ireland's in the first 30 years of the GAA with teams made up of country immigrant journeymen. Managed 2 All Ireland in another 30 after they started picking an actual Dublin native team. Finally managed to have a decent team that picked off a few in the 1970s and then it was back to massive underachievement until the unprecedented success of 2011-2020 and we all know what contributed to that "dominance".
What's gone on the last ten years has really skewed people's perceptions. When you take a decades long view as befits any great rivalry its distinctly underwhelming.
Granted Cork have only 7 title, another massive underachievement, but with far more regularity over history Cork have come up with teams to challenge and beat us in Munster.
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Post by thehermit on Apr 30, 2022 9:11:38 GMT
Sure its been a Saturday evening game since 2018 hasn't it? In 18 and 19 they were Saturday night fixtures in PUC.
The chat will start in earnest after this weekend, sure there's only so much you can talk about given no news is filtering through yet of status of the panel. And the venue stuff has kept us fairly busy too commentating on it.
I've been told I've a ticket sorted so happy days. Looking forward to heading down to Cork and making a weekend of it, with Munster playing before the Kerry game.
Between the venue, Darragh's article and everything else you would assume it will be a bit of a cauldron at the start anyway.I wonder what the split will be in terms of Kerry v Cork fans - will a big home crowd turn up?
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