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Post by peanuts on May 6, 2022 19:28:33 GMT
Goalie Backs and midfield as expected. O'Brien for Moynihan and Brosnan for Geaney. While I like Brosnan I feel Geaney very unlucky. Most people thought Brosnan was unlucky not to be picked for the league final. I think Geaney got the nod in that case because of the need for a right footed free taker with O’Shea being out.
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Post by veteran on May 6, 2022 19:28:55 GMT
Poor Dara Moynihan seems to be injury prone. Is this a fresh injury or recurrence of previous one.
It is a pity that Dan O’Donoghue is still out. Time is getting tight for him now.
I am not totally convinced about Graham O’Sullivan. Tomorrow will be a good test and I will happily revise my opinion if his performance dictates it.
Delighted Tony Brosnan is starting . He has earned it. Paul is a good man to have in reserve!
All in all , could not argue with team selected.
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Post by taggert on May 6, 2022 19:30:08 GMT
In fairness, great opportunity for Tony.
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Post by thehermit on May 6, 2022 19:31:39 GMT
O'Sullivan a bit of a surprise in the backs? Great to see Crowley and Okunbor making the bench Did Graham OS not start the league final? And Crowley been on the bench all league, no? Wasn't Crowley injured for a lot of the League or have I lost the plot a bit?
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Post by taibhse on May 6, 2022 19:32:51 GMT
Cork:
M A Martin (Nemo Rangers); Kevin O’Donovan (Nemo Rangers), M Shanley (Clonakilty), Kevin Flahive (Douglas); J Cooper (Eire Óg), R Maguire (Castlehaven), M Taylor (Mallow); Ian Maguire (St. Finbarr's), C O’Callaghan (Éire Óg); D Dineen (Cill na Martra), E McSweeney (Knocknagree), J O’Rourke (Carbery Rangers); S Sherlock (St Finbarr’s), B Hurley (Castlehaven), C O’Mahony (Mitchelstown).
Subs: D Foley (Eire Óg), T Corkery (Cill na Martra), T Walsh (Kanturk), L Fahy (Ballincollig), C Kiely (Ballincollig), S Merritt (Mallow), B Hartnett (Douglas), S Powter (Douglas), B Hayes (St. Finbarr's), M Cronin (Nemo Rangers), D Gore (Kilmacabea).
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Post by Ballyfireside on May 6, 2022 19:48:10 GMT
Can anyone tell us what Ciaran Whelan means by the underlined statement here 'With the danger that younger Clifford and Co bring to the table, every team is likely to play an extra defender and drop their wing-forwards in to close down the space'.
Re said article I think that neither Paul Murphy and maybe to a lesser extent Moran can make the starting 15 is indicative that the 15 have what it takes in terms of mental strength, well management believe we have anyway.
I always believed that we have our best ever panel of footballers though Tyrone last year didn't frank that - if it was poor coaching they should redeem themselves this time around.
Re the 7 Tyrone bucks that walked, were they top or bottom of the panel in terms of ability? This is leading to another take on what is an unprecedented event.
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Post by Mickmack on May 6, 2022 19:48:12 GMT
Hard to argue with the notion that Kerry have the strongest panel now.
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Post by Annascaultilidie on May 6, 2022 19:49:28 GMT
Did Graham OS not start the league final? And Crowley been on the bench all league, no? Wasn't Crowley injured for a lot of the League or have I lost the plot a bit? He was around as early as the Dublin league game.
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Post by mike70 on May 6, 2022 19:57:04 GMT
Most people thought Brosnan was unlucky not to be picked for the league final. I think Geaney got the nod in that case because of the need for a right footed free taker with O’Shea being out. Agreed but Geaney had a super league final. Anyway maybe the going on training. Who knows , might have been struggling in training or might have had an injury, but we expect management are putting out their strongest team, based on training. As usual, might be changes before throw in, Maguire might not play, but hopefully he is, we need to road test our midfield .
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Post by Annascaultilidie on May 6, 2022 19:59:55 GMT
Tony Brosnan showed pace and kick passing in league final.
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Post by Mickmack on May 6, 2022 20:13:27 GMT
Dara Moynihan: 'I know I have a lot more in me, but I’ve got to prove that' Moynihan is in contention for the clash with Cork at Páirc Uí Rinn tomorrow night.
FRI, 06 MAY, 2022 - 19:00 TONY LEEN DONAL Hickey, the erstwhile Irish Examiner staff writer in Killarney, who literally wrote the book on East Kerry football, is pondering the last time Spa had two players in contention to start the championship with Kerry.
Hickey, of proud Gneeveguilla stock, but long settled in Tiernaboul in Spa parish above Killarney, consulted with the elders of a club now cutting a dash in Division 1 in the Kingdom before confirming the need to date back to the late 1960's and early '70's for such an occasion – or as he puts it, “to find two Spa players regularly commanding places on the Kerry team at the same time.”
Then it was Donie O'Sullivan and Mick Gleeson, who both won All-Ireland medals in 1969 and '70. Now it is Dan O’Donoghue and Dara Moynihan, though a nasty shin fracture to the defender rules out any chance of a Spa tandem at Páirc Ui Rinn this evening. He will, however, be back in contention shortly.
Despite Moynihan’s own eye-catching return from injury this season, it’s no lock either that he starts tonight against Cork. Against the military hardware available to Jack O’Connor, it’s no slight being among the replacements. But with a taste of it, Moynihan, and O’Donoghue, want more.
Moynihan, a Kerry minor under Peter Keane and an U20 with Jack O’Connor, chastises himself on occasions for obsessing too much about Kerry football. He has only ever wanted to wear those colours, even before he saw his first All-Ireland at five against Mayo in 2004. Declan O’Sullivan was “unreal,” he recalls. Paul Galvin lived outside the law in his eyes and Moynihan adored him for it. “He was pure tenacity,” Moynihan says of the Finuge man he’s still to meet.
But to unplug? To cool the jets and stop thinking of Kerry football?
“We’ve a dairy farm at home and I haven’t time for the likes of golf. With work five days a week in the Credit Union, you mightn’t have a mind for milking cows, but I really enjoy sitting on the tractor spreading fertiliser, where you can throw on the radio or your earphones and listen to a podcast.”
Even if, invariably, it is The High Performance podcast.
The Moynihan family holding is close to the Spa pitch in a much sought-after area within easy striking distance of Killarney. It’s a similar story outside Tralee, in the sprawling parish of Ballymacelligott and no coincidence that both clubs exist comfortably in the thin air of Kerry’s League Division One. Where the migration to the populated centre has been injurious, and indeed fatal, to some clubs in the Iveragh peninsula of South Kerry, it has been a boon to those close to the big population centres of Killarney and Tralee. Spa are one of only eight senior clubs in Kerry now.
For all that, Moynihan sees the work the likes of Conor Gleeson et al put into the under-age section of the club, and the work that went into their rapidly-approaching Sevens tournament on the June Bank Holiday weekend (see panel).
“We have a very young core in the team. There was a time we’d have been in awe of the Crokes, but we are starting to catch them now. We were banging around intermediate for a few years and lost back-to-back finals in 2014 and 2015 before we won the 2020 final, beating Beaufort.”
Though Spa don’t often see their green and gold stars, there’s great glee in their progress. Donal Hickey, who co-authored ‘The Clear Air Boys’, a history of the GAA in East Kerry, reckons that the last semi-regular from the club for Kerry was Michael McAuliffe, a three-year Kerry minor, who had a run with the senior set-up just as the wheels were coming off Dwyer’s golden crop. Mention of same, one can’t forget Dwyer’s No 1 at the start of that glorious era, Spa’s own Paudie O’Mahony.
Considering the decades in the interim, it’s easy to understand the excitement in Spa at their Kingdom cubs, and the disappointment when the pair are laid up with injury and not in contention.
Moynihan (23) had a productive Allianz league after an extended lay-off due to a stress fracture of the foot. The enforced distance between his rehab and the Kerry bubble was difficult to process for him too.
“Injury is a tough place to go,” he sighs. “It’s dark, you are on your own, away from the team, they are all laughing, smiling and looking forward to getting out on the pitch and you’re stuck in there, rehabbing. It’s just not a nice place, so that makes you more grateful for the game time you do see. Coming back, I know I have a lot more in me, but I’ve got to prove that. Making an impression on the scoreboard is where I need to do more. If a wing-back knows you are not much of a scoring threat, they can drop off and cover the bigger threats inside. If I am scoring, it keeps them honest and ensures the boys inside, David and Paul, are one on one.”
It was silverware and smiles for much of Moynihan’s under age. He won a pair of All-Ireland Colleges SFC titles (Hogan Cup) with St Brendan’s in 2016 and 2017, and an All-Ireland minor as a jet-heeled wing forward in 2016 against Galway. The other members of the half-forward line were Sean O’Shea and Diarmuid O’Connor.
The senior journey hasn’t been so smooth, Moynihan recalling the 2020 defeat to Saturday’s opponents and last year’s All-Ireland semi-final loss to Tyrone with the same “sick feeling.
“You feel like you’ve let everyone in the county down, it’s not a nice place to be,” he says. “That day in Cork was just…eerie. Lashing rain, at the start of second half, you couldn’t even see around the pitch. We were dropping balls short, everything going wrong.
“After those games, you’d be very bad, you don’t want to see or talk to anyone. Even the family. After Tyrone last year, I actually felt embarrassed seeing people in town, because you’d think they’d be looking at you quare, that you lost it for us. You’d prefer to go off on holidays straight away until the thing blew over.”
Does it ever get too much, the Kerry thing? “We won the league, and you enjoy that, but the exit last year would still be in the back of your head. I’m 23, and there’s expectation every year but you have to block that out and stick with the here and now." Like Cork this weekend.
It’s never a question of one manager over another but under Jack O’Connor, Kerry “really focus on the kick pass”, Moynihan remarks. “He wants the ball moved through the foot. (Coach) Paddy Tally has brought a welcome outside perspective too that Kerry needed. He doesn’t give a sh*t about history or tradition, he is there to win an All-Ireland.”
The clear air boys would quietly approve.
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Post by Mickmack on May 6, 2022 20:15:24 GMT
Éamonn Fitzmaurice: My fond, and not so fond, memories of facing Cork
FRI, 06 MAY, 2022 - 17:25
Eamonn Fitzmaurice Éamonn Fitzmaurice I am unsure about what kind of a game to expect at Páirc Ui Rinn on Saturday evening.
It is hard to make much of a case for Cork but the cautious Kerryman in me will never trust them. We will always have an innate wariness of our neighbours. Jack O'Connor is sure to have mentioned what happened the last time they played in Cork in a deserted Pairc Uí Chaoimh two years ago during the COVID championship, when Cork’s workrate and physicality and Mark Keane's late goal sunk Kerry.
The competition within the Kerry panel will also mean players that get the nod to start will want to make sure they hold onto to their jerseys. In my own time as a player and in management I was fortunate enough to come up against serious Cork teams on a regular basis and I still have fond and some not so fond memories from those days.
Tadhg Murphy’s Goal
My first Kerry and Cork game was the 1983 Cork win in Pairc Uí Chaoimh when Tadhg Murphy’s famous late goal saw Kerry caught at the death for the second year in a row. I was just about to turn 6 at the time and my late father brought me. I don’t remember too much about the match itself but some other details have stuck in my mind all these years later.
There had been thunderstorms the day before and the morning of the match and there was unbelievable flooding on the Monahan Road as we made our way to the match. I recall my father putting me up on his shoulders as he walked through the floods. I also remember my Dad buying me a Kerry flag which I was waving every second minute, much to the annoyance of the crowd behind us. I do still remember the late goal but I didn’t obviously understand the significance of it.
Darragh Ó Sé’s catch
By the 1995 Munster Final in Killarney the football bug had well and truly bitten. For this one I was on the terrace in Killarney, again with my Dad. At this stage I had won an All Ireland minor medal the year previous and had been centre back for the minors that year when we were beaten by a good Cork team featuring the likes of Seán Óg O hAilpín and Anthony Lynch. Incidentally Tipperary beat them in Killarney that day before the senior final.
There was a huge crowd in Killarney and my clubmate Eamon Breen got an early goal. Kerry contested really well but Cork were better at the time and had too much for them. Colin Corkery got a late free from in front of the stand that more or less finished the game off. The thing that sticks in my head about that game is a catch Darragh O Sé made when introduced as a second half substitute.
A gangly Darragh hovered over friend in foe as he plucked the ball over everyone else. The image was captured by Brendan Moran of Sportsfile and was used on the back cover of the seminal Green Fields. There was something inspirational and defiant about the fetch and I often looked at that picture afterwards.
Cork won the three in a row that afternoon. They haven’t won in Killarney since. I started in UCC the following October as I took the next steps in my education, both on and off the field. The Cork lads loved reminding us at the time that they were on top. I think it definitely fed into our desire to beat them as often as we possibly could.
My championship debut
The next Kerry v Cork encounter in Killarney was my championship debut when I came on as a sub at wing back at half time. It is amazing that there are games I played much later in my career that I don’t remember much about but I remember loads about that day. I spent that summer of 1998 travelling to training with Liam Flaherty who always drove, Eamon Breen and Noel Kennelly. That was a fair education, in many ways!
For me to go to Killarney it would have been easier for me to meet the lads in Tralee but there was so much craic in the car I used to meet them in Listowel at Kennellys which added an hour to my day. An hour well spent though. The great Tim Kennelly would often be floating around and would always have a quite word of encouragement for myself and Noel before we headed for Killarney. The morning of the Cork game I met them as usual in Listowel but Flaherty asked me to drive his car so he could relax.
When we got as far as Farranfore the traffic was stopped as the huge crowd made their way to the game. The lads told me to put on the hazards and pull out and plough away. Which I did. We would have been late otherwise. The next thing I knew as we were coming through Brennans Glen a Garda motorcyclist was coming flying out against us with the blue lights on.
I imagine the Garda Station in Killarney got a call or two giving out about this Audi car on the wrong side of the road passing out all the traffic. I thought we were in bother but when the guard saw Flah and Breen he knew we were legit and he gave us an escort in the road. We got some laugh out of that. Even Páidí didn’t have his own private Garda escort.
The match itself was tight and Alan O Regan got a goal for Cork with less than 10 left to put them ahead. We responded immediately though and Maurice Fitzgerald got a great goal to put us back on track. Things went well for me personally and I was delighted to contribute to the win. Afterwards I remember being surprised at how comfortable I was during the match. I can still vividly remember my first touch in championship football. Donal Daly gathered a kickout and passed it back to me.
I recall the ball being a bit damp which surprised me. I had a quick look up and with nothing obvious on I kicked the ball as hard as I could in the general direction of the goals. Amazingly it nearly set up Maurice Fitz for a goal, with the Cork keeper Maguire making a good save. It settled me immediately.
The other thing I recall about that day was the huge crowd in attendance with nearly 44000 present for a straight knockout championship game, in the pre health and safety days. In the second half the crowd spilled onto the pitch at the dressing room end and this all added to the since of occasion. I was hooked.
2002
We played Cork three times in championship in 2002. We drew with them on a wet day in Killarney the day Ireland lost to Spain in the World Cup on penalties. Between the draw and replay Mike Ó Sé, Páidí’s brother and Darragh, Tomás and Marc’s Dad passed away suddenly. Cork hammered us in the replay in Pairc Uí Chaoimh the following Sunday night.
I and many of the other players felt we had left Páidí and the three lads badly down with our performance. Off we went through the qualifiers playing great football and we ended up meeting Cork again in the All Ireland semi final. The night before the game Páidí had put together a video nasty to remind us of our lack of performance in Pairc Uí Chaoimh a few months previously and to motivate us for the following day.
Diarmuid O Sullivan played football that summer and as they went to town on us in the second half he broke through and shot for a goal but the ball went over. Declan O Keeffe had flung himself at The Rock as he was shooting and was on the ground as the Cork man ran past him. He gave him a little flick on the backside with his boot. When this flashed up on the screen the night before the game John O Keeffe who was a selector with Páidí had a little giggle.
Well if he did Páidí jumped up stopped the video and roared at us that there would be no laughing. We were a laughing stock earlier that summer and a disgrace to the jersey and now we were laughing about it. Silence in the room. I think the funniest thing about it was Johno got such a shock that from his perch in the front row he glanced back over his shoulder shaking his head agreeing with Páidí.
He definitely wasn’t taking the rap for it. Needless to say we played like men possessed the next day and had a big win. While we ultimately lost the final to Armagh by a point it certainly wasn’t down to Páidí who put on a clinic as an intercounty manager that summer.
Cork as the Bainisteoir
We had some great battles with Cork in my time in management. They gave us a few right trimmings in the league in 2014 and 2015, but thankfully we always had the upper hand in championship. A game that stands out is our win in 2014. That was the last football final played in Pairc Uí Chaoimh before it was closed for the redevelopment.
Cork were going really well at the time and had lost to Dublin in the league semi final having led well at half time. We were still finding our way a bit with a new team but that was the day we arrived with so many of the team playing really well. The night before we broke with tradition and stayed in Fota because of the 2pm throw in.
Players that would have been travelling from the furthest points of the county would have had an early start on Sunday and we wanted to avoid this. As part of our preparation at the time the players would email me with some visualisations for the upcoming match. It was incredibly powerful stuff and it was amazing how often it came off in the match for them. I had a Eureka moment before that match, thinking that the power from the emails was being wasted as only me and each individual player knew the specifics.
Instead we decided to have a ‘promises meeting’ the night before the match. Rather than sending me their visualisations the players would each make one promise to the group for the match the following day. It was powerful stuff and the players weren’t going to break their word to each other. It worked brilliantly and we used it again for the All Ireland.
Saturday is another chapter in my story with Cork. I expect to be going back home over the county bounds happy that Kerry are in the Munster final. Anything else is unthinkable.
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Post by horsebox77 on May 6, 2022 20:17:57 GMT
Team along expected lines, I don’t get the tôr over Graham, he has been progressing nicely and was very consistent and assured in the league run in, in my opinion he is a safer bet for the corner and has better experience at this stage then Casey. Crowley and Murphy also can’t play in the corner, Graham is more versatile. He also is a club mate of Jack, I’m not saying he has been favoured more Jack would be more aware of his capabilities than most of us here.
Once Moynihan was ruled out O’Brien was the obvious choice for pace and ability, again he was showing his 2019 form in the late league and was just unlucky with some shots in the league final.
Brosnan and Geaney was probably a fifty/fifty call, the league final showed us a different side to Brosnan, a side I hadn’t seen before, that may have tilted the scales in his favour. Personally I would rather start Geaney and bring on Brosnan but I can see the merits of both, Geaney has historically played well against Cork but ya, strong side and strong options ff the bench.
Competition for places is always healthy.
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Post by keane on May 6, 2022 20:23:43 GMT
I suppose you know what you'll get with Geaney, you might learn something about Brosnan
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Post by Deleted on May 6, 2022 20:28:44 GMT
The real question is would Jack have picked this team if tomorrows game was an all Ireland semi final against Dublin.
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Post by kerryexile on May 6, 2022 20:31:19 GMT
Poor Dara Moynihan seems to be injury prone. Is this a fresh injury or recurrence of previous one. It is a pity that Dan O’Donoghue is still out. Time is getting tight for him now. I am not totally convinced about Graham O’Sullivan. Tomorrow will be a good test and I will happily revise my opinion if his performance dictates it. Delighted Tony Brosnan is starting . He has earned it. Paul is a good man to have in reserve! All in all , could not argue with team selected. Veteran, my thoughts - verbatim. Graham is very good in combat but he needs to read the attack as it develops. He may have worked on that. Glad to see Tony playing. His intricate play in tight situations can unhinge any defence.
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Post by horsebox77 on May 6, 2022 20:31:23 GMT
The real question is would Jack have picked this team if tomorrows game was an all Ireland semi final against Dublin. It's hard to argue that this isn't the strongest team available
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Post by veteran on May 6, 2022 20:37:31 GMT
The nature of Dan O’Donoghue’s injury remains a mystery to me. As far as I can recall he sustained it towards the end of the Monaghan game. Did Jack describe it as a calf injury sometime? Now, in that article posted from The Examiner , Tony Leen describes it as a “ nasty shin fracture”. Your shin is the big bone in your leg. Surely if he sustained a “nasty fracture” of that bone he is likely to be out for the year.
Can anybody throw any light on this topic?
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Post by Deleted on May 6, 2022 20:45:23 GMT
The real question is would Jack have picked this team if tomorrows game was an all Ireland semi final against Dublin. It's hard to argue that this isn't the strongest team available Easy to say that based on the league but if tomorrow was a real do or die game, I think the likes of Moran and Murphy could well have started given they are more proven in the bigger games.
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Post by Ballyfireside on May 6, 2022 20:46:26 GMT
Éamonn Fitzmaurice: My fond, and not so fond, memories of facing Cork FRI, 06 MAY, 2022 - 17:25 Eamonn Fitzmaurice Éamonn Fitzmaurice I am unsure about what kind of a game to expect at Páirc Ui Rinn on Saturday evening. It is hard to make much of a case for Cork but the cautious Kerryman in me will never trust them. We will always have an innate wariness of our neighbours. Jack O'Connor is sure to have mentioned what happened the last time they played in Cork in a deserted Pairc Uí Chaoimh two years ago during the COVID championship, when Cork’s workrate and physicality and Mark Keane's late goal sunk Kerry. The competition within the Kerry panel will also mean players that get the nod to start will want to make sure they hold onto to their jerseys. In my own time as a player and in management I was fortunate enough to come up against serious Cork teams on a regular basis and I still have fond and some not so fond memories from those days. Tadhg Murphy’s Goal My first Kerry and Cork game was the 1983 Cork win in Pairc Uí Chaoimh when Tadhg Murphy’s famous late goal saw Kerry caught at the death for the second year in a row. I was just about to turn 6 at the time and my late father brought me. I don’t remember too much about the match itself but some other details have stuck in my mind all these years later. There had been thunderstorms the day before and the morning of the match and there was unbelievable flooding on the Monahan Road as we made our way to the match. I recall my father putting me up on his shoulders as he walked through the floods. I also remember my Dad buying me a Kerry flag which I was waving every second minute, much to the annoyance of the crowd behind us. I do still remember the late goal but I didn’t obviously understand the significance of it. Darragh Ó Sé’s catch By the 1995 Munster Final in Killarney the football bug had well and truly bitten. For this one I was on the terrace in Killarney, again with my Dad. At this stage I had won an All Ireland minor medal the year previous and had been centre back for the minors that year when we were beaten by a good Cork team featuring the likes of Seán Óg O hAilpín and Anthony Lynch. Incidentally Tipperary beat them in Killarney that day before the senior final. There was a huge crowd in Killarney and my clubmate Eamon Breen got an early goal. Kerry contested really well but Cork were better at the time and had too much for them. Colin Corkery got a late free from in front of the stand that more or less finished the game off. The thing that sticks in my head about that game is a catch Darragh O Sé made when introduced as a second half substitute. A gangly Darragh hovered over friend in foe as he plucked the ball over everyone else. The image was captured by Brendan Moran of Sportsfile and was used on the back cover of the seminal Green Fields. There was something inspirational and defiant about the fetch and I often looked at that picture afterwards. Cork won the three in a row that afternoon. They haven’t won in Killarney since. I started in UCC the following October as I took the next steps in my education, both on and off the field. The Cork lads loved reminding us at the time that they were on top. I think it definitely fed into our desire to beat them as often as we possibly could. My championship debut The next Kerry v Cork encounter in Killarney was my championship debut when I came on as a sub at wing back at half time. It is amazing that there are games I played much later in my career that I don’t remember much about but I remember loads about that day. I spent that summer of 1998 travelling to training with Liam Flaherty who always drove, Eamon Breen and Noel Kennelly. That was a fair education, in many ways! For me to go to Killarney it would have been easier for me to meet the lads in Tralee but there was so much craic in the car I used to meet them in Listowel at Kennellys which added an hour to my day. An hour well spent though. The great Tim Kennelly would often be floating around and would always have a quite word of encouragement for myself and Noel before we headed for Killarney. The morning of the Cork game I met them as usual in Listowel but Flaherty asked me to drive his car so he could relax. When we got as far as Farranfore the traffic was stopped as the huge crowd made their way to the game. The lads told me to put on the hazards and pull out and plough away. Which I did. We would have been late otherwise. The next thing I knew as we were coming through Brennans Glen a Garda motorcyclist was coming flying out against us with the blue lights on. I imagine the Garda Station in Killarney got a call or two giving out about this Audi car on the wrong side of the road passing out all the traffic. I thought we were in bother but when the guard saw Flah and Breen he knew we were legit and he gave us an escort in the road. We got some laugh out of that. Even Páidí didn’t have his own private Garda escort. The match itself was tight and Alan O Regan got a goal for Cork with less than 10 left to put them ahead. We responded immediately though and Maurice Fitzgerald got a great goal to put us back on track. Things went well for me personally and I was delighted to contribute to the win. Afterwards I remember being surprised at how comfortable I was during the match. I can still vividly remember my first touch in championship football. Donal Daly gathered a kickout and passed it back to me. I recall the ball being a bit damp which surprised me. I had a quick look up and with nothing obvious on I kicked the ball as hard as I could in the general direction of the goals. Amazingly it nearly set up Maurice Fitz for a goal, with the Cork keeper Maguire making a good save. It settled me immediately. The other thing I recall about that day was the huge crowd in attendance with nearly 44000 present for a straight knockout championship game, in the pre health and safety days. In the second half the crowd spilled onto the pitch at the dressing room end and this all added to the since of occasion. I was hooked. 2002 We played Cork three times in championship in 2002. We drew with them on a wet day in Killarney the day Ireland lost to Spain in the World Cup on penalties. Between the draw and replay Mike Ó Sé, Páidí’s brother and Darragh, Tomás and Marc’s Dad passed away suddenly. Cork hammered us in the replay in Pairc Uí Chaoimh the following Sunday night. I and many of the other players felt we had left Páidí and the three lads badly down with our performance. Off we went through the qualifiers playing great football and we ended up meeting Cork again in the All Ireland semi final. The night before the game Páidí had put together a video nasty to remind us of our lack of performance in Pairc Uí Chaoimh a few months previously and to motivate us for the following day. Diarmuid O Sullivan played football that summer and as they went to town on us in the second half he broke through and shot for a goal but the ball went over. Declan O Keeffe had flung himself at The Rock as he was shooting and was on the ground as the Cork man ran past him. He gave him a little flick on the backside with his boot. When this flashed up on the screen the night before the game John O Keeffe who was a selector with Páidí had a little giggle. Well if he did Páidí jumped up stopped the video and roared at us that there would be no laughing. We were a laughing stock earlier that summer and a disgrace to the jersey and now we were laughing about it. Silence in the room. I think the funniest thing about it was Johno got such a shock that from his perch in the front row he glanced back over his shoulder shaking his head agreeing with Páidí. He definitely wasn’t taking the rap for it. Needless to say we played like men possessed the next day and had a big win. While we ultimately lost the final to Armagh by a point it certainly wasn’t down to Páidí who put on a clinic as an intercounty manager that summer. Cork as the Bainisteoir We had some great battles with Cork in my time in management. They gave us a few right trimmings in the league in 2014 and 2015, but thankfully we always had the upper hand in championship. A game that stands out is our win in 2014. That was the last football final played in Pairc Uí Chaoimh before it was closed for the redevelopment. Cork were going really well at the time and had lost to Dublin in the league semi final having led well at half time. We were still finding our way a bit with a new team but that was the day we arrived with so many of the team playing really well. The night before we broke with tradition and stayed in Fota because of the 2pm throw in. Players that would have been travelling from the furthest points of the county would have had an early start on Sunday and we wanted to avoid this. As part of our preparation at the time the players would email me with some visualisations for the upcoming match. It was incredibly powerful stuff and it was amazing how often it came off in the match for them. I had a Eureka moment before that match, thinking that the power from the emails was being wasted as only me and each individual player knew the specifics. Instead we decided to have a ‘promises meeting’ the night before the match. Rather than sending me their visualisations the players would each make one promise to the group for the match the following day. It was powerful stuff and the players weren’t going to break their word to each other. It worked brilliantly and we used it again for the All Ireland. Saturday is another chapter in my story with Cork. I expect to be going back home over the county bounds happy that Kerry are in the Munster final. Anything else is unthinkable. Them liardy hoors - word was Fla had a cow calving that afternoon but knowing the farmer Dan Fla was, he wouldn't have 'em that late. On sight of Fla's Audi speeding down into Killarney outside us under Garda escort we had a good laugh in our matchcar and we after a belly full of porter - that'll tell you how late THEY were. Such Nostalgia has John Moriarty smile and anyone who doesn't know John hasn't lived - cue Nostos, or Nóstos if you like Greek. Also reminds of a slagging match we waz having about the event with a scooter cop of a night at The Rose, he was actually a Rebel and boy did he settle the score - 'all yer auld big talk and wan of yer own in staying with us tonight' - answers on a postcard. Éamonn also now deserves another shot and his integrity should eliminate any negatives for having that on the CV - remember he claimed Sam at the first time of asking and we haven't won wan since. Sure has a role to play in the right management team IMHO, In My Hoor of an Opinion.
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Post by Moderator on May 6, 2022 20:56:09 GMT
Gavin Crowley started one league game...versus Monaghan and was replaced by Graham O'Sullivan.
He came on as a sub in 3 other games, replacing Tadhg Morley v Dublin, replacing Dylan Casey v Mayo in Tralee, and replacing Gavin White in the league final v Mayo.
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Post by royalkerryfan on May 6, 2022 20:57:36 GMT
Absolute spoofer. Marc and Darragh are from a bygone era - happily selling their wares on the newspaper and radio punditry gravy train. Great players but clueless on what it takes to manage, motivate and enable the modern county player to excel. Agree 100% Taggert. 3 fantastic players for Kerry but pure spoofers now. Bang out of order calling lads who gave you more good days than bad spoofers They've earned the right to speak about the game more than anyone on here that's for sure. They are correct regarding Cork but because it's not the Kerry way to speak without yearra they are ridiculed on here.
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Post by horsebox77 on May 6, 2022 20:59:45 GMT
It's hard to argue that this isn't the strongest team available Easy to say that based on the league but if tomorrow was a real do or die game, I think the likes of Moran and Murphy could well have started given they are more proven in the bigger games. O'Brien is the only starter that was there in 2014, Geaney, Moran and Murphy are on the bench.. just shows how much the panel has evolved.. I don't share your optimism. Of the quartet, Geaney or O'Brien are best placed to stake a starting place. I think Murphy has regressed, may be wrong, hope om proven wrong.
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Post by Mickmack on May 6, 2022 21:30:25 GMT
Agree 100% Taggert. 3 fantastic players for Kerry but pure spoofers now. Bang out of order calling lads who gave you more good days than bad spoofers They've earned the right to speak about the game more than anyone on here that's for sure. They are correct regarding Cork but because it's not the Kerry way to speak without yearra they are ridiculed on here.
Lots of Kerry scribes write well and honestly and without an agenda. Eamon Fitzmaurice and Dara Cinneide are two obvious ones. Having All Irelands medals just means you were a good player in a good team. Lots of great journalists are well respected and have no All Ireland medals. Lots of great players didnt win All Irelands. Lots of lads with All Ireland medals are spoofers
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Post by onlykerry on May 6, 2022 21:35:19 GMT
Tickets available on Ticketmaster this evening - means the demand through the club channels was not fully taken up.
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Post by royalkerryfan on May 6, 2022 21:38:27 GMT
Bang out of order calling lads who gave you more good days than bad spoofers They've earned the right to speak about the game more than anyone on here that's for sure. They are correct regarding Cork but because it's not the Kerry way to speak without yearra they are ridiculed on here.
Lots of Kerry scribes write well and honestly and without an agenda. Eamon Fitzmaurice and Dara Cinneide are two obvious ones. Having All Irelands medals just means you were a good player in a good team. Lots of great journalists are well respected and have no All Ireland medals. Lots of great players didnt win All Irelands. Lots of lads with All Ireland medals are spoofers And a few on here. They were right about Cork. This isint reservoir Dubs calling our own great ex players spoofers is out of line.
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Post by taggert on May 6, 2022 21:41:26 GMT
Agree 100% Taggert. 3 fantastic players for Kerry but pure spoofers now. Bang out of order calling lads who gave you more good days than bad spoofers They've earned the right to speak about the game more than anyone on here that's for sure. They are correct regarding Cork but because it's not the Kerry way to speak without yearra they are ridiculed on here. I explained my rationale in a subseqent post. It has nothing to do with their analysis on this specific game whatsoever, its the totality of their punditry heretofore, which I believe is ordinary and banal in the extreme. I believe Tomas does bring that cutting edge in his analysis. I acknowledged their greatness as players. If the currency to speak on this great game of ours is having won All Ireland medals, this forum wouldnt exist. And many brilliant GAA journalists would be following a different career path.
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Post by Deleted on May 6, 2022 21:46:42 GMT
Daragh and Marc are mediocre pundits. That does not mean they lack knowledge of the game, it is just that they are unable to articulate it in the media.
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Post by taggert on May 6, 2022 21:49:37 GMT
Daragh and Marc are mediocre pundits. That does not mean they lack knowledge of the game, it is just that they are unable to articulate it in the media. I think we're saying the same thing.....
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Post by Deleted on May 6, 2022 21:53:15 GMT
Daragh and Marc are mediocre pundits. That does not mean they lack knowledge of the game, it is just that they are unable to articulate it in the media. I think we're saying the same thing..... I think you went a bit further than me!
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