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Post by Jo90 on Apr 4, 2022 21:34:25 GMT
Kerry players won't care where it's on. Might suit them in a narrow pitch as they'll need to get used to less space later on.
Killarney can wait another year, might even get a bigger crowd in 2023. Cork won't travel this year and it might be a Munster final next year. Although the Munster final will be a bit diluted in 2023 as I believe there's no benefit come championship for the winners, while if it's a semi-final it could be knockout for Cork.
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Post by horsebox77 on Apr 5, 2022 8:48:04 GMT
This thing shouldn't get any more Oxygen. They are trying to develop the siege mentality and, ultimately, an advantage. Kerry should just watch from the long grass, go up there, play the game and beat them like they usually do. Agree.. I would stick to matters between the white lines and ones we can debate with certainty, Park the venue issue or as Jack said "that is no concern of mine"
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Post by Kerryman Randy Savage on Apr 5, 2022 10:09:48 GMT
Agree as well. I doubt there is anything new to unearth until closer to the time. Kerry will play them anywhere, I only oppose having a neutral venue this year and next year return to the agreement with Cork hosting next as that rewards greed. Let Cork pick and if they want PUR, give them that and then give them a battle. Maybe the Cork lads might do us a favour and get us battle hardened for later in the campaign.
I hope the Cork hurlers call for PUR to be used also for their game. It's not about the money. Solidarity. 😂
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Post by dc84 on Apr 5, 2022 10:25:18 GMT
Totally agree , no guarantee we will be playing cork next year anyway clare ,tipp and even limerick now would fancy a cut of cork id imagine. Clare have been way more consistent than cork anyway and are a comfortable div2 team not quite at the level of a Galway/roscommon but better than or as good as Meath,cork limerick and Louth. Derry will be interesting in the championship and league next year can they kick on or have they found their level. Dublin should and probably will win 7/7 next year ( be playing kildare at home i think) and kildare are better than d2 as well I think , be very tough for Derry to get out of that division I feel.
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Post by ciarraimick on Apr 5, 2022 13:32:56 GMT
I would think Cork might travel to PUR just in spite and will make it a cauldrum for the occasion. A tight pitch and hostile crowd could make fame closer.
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Post by cynicalfootball on Apr 5, 2022 15:42:46 GMT
2014 kerry beat cork by double scores 2015 over 37k travel to killarney to see cork robbed by the referee,you can never say when it comes to Cork/Kerry that cork fans dont travel.
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Post by Annascaultilidie on Apr 5, 2022 15:49:29 GMT
2014 kerry beat cork by double scores 2015 over 37k travel to killarney to see cork robbed by the referee,you can never say when it comes to Cork/Kerry that cork fans dont travel. More Cork fans travelled than there were people in the stadium amazing.
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Post by Kerryman Randy Savage on Apr 5, 2022 15:56:13 GMT
2014 kerry beat cork by double scores 2015 over 37k travel to killarney to see cork robbed by the referee,you can never say when it comes to Cork/Kerry that cork fans dont travel. More Cork fans travelled than there were people in the stadium amazing. Probably counting the tourists from the Paddywagon buses coming over the county bounds. Was 2015 the game where a Cork player took 10 steps for one of their goals?
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Post by Moderator on Apr 5, 2022 17:35:11 GMT
Agree as well. I doubt there is anything new to unearth until closer to the time. Kerry will play them anywhere, I only oppose having a neutral venue this year and next year return to the agreement with Cork hosting next as that rewards greed. Let Cork pick and if they want PUR, give them that and then give them a battle. Maybe the Cork lads might do us a favour and get us battle hardened for later in the campaign. I hope the Cork hurlers call for PUR to be used also for their game. It's not about the money. Solidarity. 😂 That's probably the best way forward, wherever they want in 2022 and Killarney 2023.
Is the Cork home game in the hurling v Clare switched to Thurles, or did I dream that too?
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Post by greengold35 on Apr 5, 2022 17:51:59 GMT
Agree as well. I doubt there is anything new to unearth until closer to the time. Kerry will play them anywhere, I only oppose having a neutral venue this year and next year return to the agreement with Cork hosting next as that rewards greed. Let Cork pick and if they want PUR, give them that and then give them a battle. Maybe the Cork lads might do us a favour and get us battle hardened for later in the campaign. I hope the Cork hurlers call for PUR to be used also for their game. It's not about the money. Solidarity. 😂 That's probably the best way forward, wherever they want in 2022 and Killarney 2023.
Is the Cork home game in the hurling v Clare switched to Thurles, or did I dream that too? You are correct - Cork/Clare is going to Thurles.
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Post by Kerryman Randy Savage on Apr 5, 2022 18:01:23 GMT
Agree as well. I doubt there is anything new to unearth until closer to the time. Kerry will play them anywhere, I only oppose having a neutral venue this year and next year return to the agreement with Cork hosting next as that rewards greed. Let Cork pick and if they want PUR, give them that and then give them a battle. Maybe the Cork lads might do us a favour and get us battle hardened for later in the campaign. I hope the Cork hurlers call for PUR to be used also for their game. It's not about the money. Solidarity. 😂 That's probably the best way forward, wherever they want in 2022 and Killarney 2023.
Is the Cork home game in the hurling v Clare switched to Thurles, or did I dream that too? The Cork hurlers moved the game as they wanted to accommodate their fans. Apparently the smaller the amount of Cork people watching Cork football this year will stem the bleeding of its fans.
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Post by Mickmack on Apr 5, 2022 18:34:39 GMT
The devil is always in the detail The Cork hurlers ended up getting a much better schedule than the original. Under the original plan where they were due to play 3 weeks in a row. I think if i were a cork footballer I would go on strike too or just play club football. www.echolive.ie/corksport/arid-40797900.html
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Post by Kerryman Randy Savage on Apr 5, 2022 18:49:32 GMT
The devil is always in the detail The Cork hurlers ended up getting a much better schedule than the original. Under the original plan where they were due to play 3 weeks in a row. I think if i were a cork footballer I would go on strike too or just play club football. www.echolive.ie/corksport/arid-40797900.htmlPairc Ui Rinn is 11k going to 15k? Every other report said Health & Safety has it pegged for 9k with remedial works to 11k. Anyone know where they are pulling that from? If it is PUR, I hope that 15k number holds up.
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Post by clarinman on Apr 5, 2022 21:59:27 GMT
I'm with the Munster council on this. The supporters need to be taken into account. It was behind closed doors in 2020. Capacity was limited to 2.5k last year in Killarney and tickets were impossible to get. A venue needs to be chosen to allow those who want to go to attend. Don't forget cork weren't calling for games in pairc ui Rinn when pairc ui chaoimh was being rebuilt.
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Post by culdesac on Apr 5, 2022 22:26:02 GMT
If cork get Pairc Ui rinn so be it it might raise the astmosphere a bit because it’ll be a cake walk in killarney I don’t see much cork crowd travelling I’d expect a better game off of limerick or Tipperary imo
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Post by cynicalfootball on Apr 6, 2022 8:01:12 GMT
Which goal was that Randy Barry o Driscoll brilliant goal or the 2 others that were fisted in. And while you are counting steps take a look at how many steps C Cooper illegally takes when he was taking frees.
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Post by Mickmack on Apr 6, 2022 8:13:31 GMT
If cork get Pairc Ui rinn so be it it might raise the astmosphere a bit because it’ll be a cake walk in killarney I don’t see much cork crowd travelling I’d expect a better game off of limerick or Tipperary imo Cork footballers and hurlers have played championship matches in Pairc ui Rinn in recent years. I wish the Munster Council had let the hare sit.
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Post by Kerryman Randy Savage on Apr 6, 2022 9:00:00 GMT
Which goal was that Randy Barry o Driscoll brilliant goal or the 2 others that were fisted in. And while you are counting steps take a look at how many steps C Cooper illegally takes when he was taking frees. First goal. In the setup count the steps Collins takes when the ball comes into him and let me know how many there are. Regarding Cooper let me know when each one is to give a valid critique.
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Post by mike70 on Apr 6, 2022 9:18:27 GMT
Looking ahead to the summer, the following are the time lines for all ireland series; Provincial finals 28/29 May Qualifier 1. 4/5 June Qualifier 2. 11/12 June Quarter Final. 25/26 June Semi Final. 9/10 July Final. 24 July
We win our provincial we have 4 weeks off to quarter final, with a meeting with qualifier team after 2 games in June and 2 week break before playing kerry. Our A and B games in Killarney will at least be good, to ensure we are in right prep for meeting a team coming off the back of competitive games.
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Post by cynicalfootball on Apr 6, 2022 10:18:25 GMT
You could take any free you want a see where it was kicked from compared to where the free occurred ,i maybe old fashioned but imho all free should be taken from the ground .Have to say M Collins did not take 10 steps
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Post by Kerryman Randy Savage on Apr 6, 2022 10:27:20 GMT
You could take any free you want a see where it was kicked from compared to where the free occurred ,i maybe old fashioned but imho all free should be taken from the ground .Have to say M Collins did not take 10 steps How many did he take? If it's more than 4 steps should the goal have counted? So your complaint about Cooper can be leveled at almost every player from every county? Just want to clear that up.
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Post by royalkerryfan on Apr 6, 2022 10:30:59 GMT
Lads the steps rule is just not enforced lord God go back to 2011 or Murchan in 2019.
If that's what we are complaining about we are wasting our time.
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Post by hatchetman on Apr 6, 2022 10:59:13 GMT
Regarding people suggesting that Páirc Uí Rinn is a 'tight' pitch, apparently it's the same size as the pitch at Páirc Uí Chaoimh, and bigger than the Fitzgerald Stadium.
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Post by mike70 on Apr 6, 2022 11:14:37 GMT
Regarding people suggesting that Páirc Uí Rinn is a 'tight' pitch, apparently it's the same size as the pitch at Páirc Uí Chaoimh, and bigger than the Fitzgerald Stadium. The park 145x 90 Ui Rinn. 144 x 88 FitzG. 144 x 82
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Post by cynicalfootball on Apr 6, 2022 11:59:31 GMT
18 k was the attendance in 2019 about 4k from Kerry and the rest from Cork.
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Post by Kerryman Randy Savage on Apr 6, 2022 12:06:08 GMT
Regarding people suggesting that Páirc Uí Rinn is a 'tight' pitch, apparently it's the same size as the pitch at Páirc Uí Chaoimh, and bigger than the Fitzgerald Stadium. I've noticed when half the pundits throw out tight pitch it feels like they base it on the space between the crowd and the pitch. If they think the crowd is close its a tight pitch or maybe they base it off capacity. I doubt anyone actually looks up sizes before throwing it out. Also who will counter it without proof? 🤷♂️
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Post by veteran on Apr 6, 2022 12:56:26 GMT
I'm with the Munster council on this. The supporters need to be taken into account. It was behind closed doors in 2020. Capacity was limited to 2.5k last year in Killarney and tickets were impossible to get. A venue needs to be chosen to allow those who want to go to attend. Don't forget cork weren't calling for games in pairc ui Rinn when pairc ui chaoimh was being rebuilt. Clarinman, merely on a point of information , Cork GAA did not own Pairc Ui Rinn back in the mid seventies when Pairc Ui Chaoimh was being being refurbished . Back then it was a soccer venue and known as Flower Lodge. I spent many Sundays there watching Cork Hibernians play. Domestic soccer was very strong in those days but lost its way for various reasons and, the unkindest cut of all, lost Flower Lodge to the GAA. I can assure you , not surprisingly, that caused consternation among the soccer fraternity. The much maligned Frank Murphy was a canny operator and made sure his Board were ready to swoop when Flower Lodge/Pairc Ui Rinn came on the market. It was a shrewd investment.
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Post by Jo90 on Apr 6, 2022 13:22:39 GMT
Regarding people suggesting that Páirc Uí Rinn is a 'tight' pitch, apparently it's the same size as the pitch at Páirc Uí Chaoimh, and bigger than the Fitzgerald Stadium. The park 145x 90 Ui Rinn. 144 x 88 FitzG. 144 x 82 Croke Park: 145 X 88 So fair play to Cork, they picked the one venue out of the 3 that will give Kerry a game in a pitch virtually identical to Croke Park.
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Post by Mickmack on Apr 6, 2022 13:24:36 GMT
I'm with the Munster council on this. The supporters need to be taken into account. It was behind closed doors in 2020. Capacity was limited to 2.5k last year in Killarney and tickets were impossible to get. A venue needs to be chosen to allow those who want to go to attend. Don't forget cork weren't calling for games in pairc ui Rinn when pairc ui chaoimh was being rebuilt. Clarinman, merely on a point of information , Cork GAA did not own Pairc Ui Rinn back in the mid seventies when Pairc Ui Chaoimh was being being refurbished . Back then it was a soccer venue and known as Flower Lodge. I spent many Sundays there watching Cork Hibernians play. Domestic soccer was very strong in those days but lost its way for various reasons and, the unkindest cut of all, lost Flower Lodge to the GAA. I can assure you , not surprisingly, that caused consternation among the soccer fraternity. The much maligned Frank Murphy was a canny operator and made sure his Board were ready to swoop when Flower Lodge/Pairc Ui Rinn came on the market. It was a shrewd investment. Remember Dave Bacussi....I was only read about him last week. He died from covid in 2020. His widow was at the garden of remembrance event.
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Post by Mickmack on Apr 6, 2022 13:30:07 GMT
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