horsebox77
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Post by horsebox77 on Apr 23, 2022 3:22:45 GMT
Short memories is right, funny how now we all agree that Paidi's "F'ing Animals" was an accurate description of us but back in 2003 it was considered insulting and his position untenable.
We would appear to have short memories and very high demands.
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Post by southward on Apr 23, 2022 7:46:20 GMT
Short memories is right, funny how now we all agree that Paidi's "F'ing Animals" was an accurate description of us but back in 2003 it was considered insulting and his position untenable. We would appear to have short memories and very high demands. My recollection is that your average Kerry supporter took it in the spirit in which it was intended. People either laughed or just didn't give a toss. The threat to his position stemmed from media hype and the righteous whinnying of Joe Duffy listener / Helen Lovejoy types.
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Post by diego on Apr 23, 2022 8:06:39 GMT
This Cork team beat us two years ago when they were division 3 and we at the top of division 1 I know yeah and the fact that our then manager survived is something that I still can’t quite fathom The game was played in horrendous winter conditions which opened the possibility of a fluke result, which is what happened. The way the ball landed in Mark Keane's hands was fortunate, but that's what can happens when the conditions are a leveller and a game is close. Cork took advantage to get to a Munster Final and good luck to them, as another Cork man might say. Don't see why you would have sacked a manager in circumstances like this. There was more than enough from the league campaign to say management were doing a good job.
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Post by KY50 on Apr 23, 2022 9:02:00 GMT
I know yeah and the fact that our then manager survived is something that I still can’t quite fathom The game was played in horrendous winter conditions which opened the possibility of a fluke result, which is what happened. The way the ball landed in Mark Keane's hands was fortunate, but that's what can happens when the conditions are a leveller and a game is close. Cork took advantage to get to a Munster Final and good luck to them, as another Cork man might say. Don't see why you would have sacked a manager in circumstances like this. There was more than enough from the league campaign to say management were doing a good job. Was speaking to a guy who was at the Cork v Galway game in PUC a few weeks back, Cork were more than holding their own until Sean Meehan had to go off injured mid way through the second half, lets not under estimate what is ahead of us in PUR
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Post by kerrybhoy06 on Apr 23, 2022 10:38:59 GMT
I know yeah and the fact that our then manager survived is something that I still can’t quite fathom The game was played in horrendous winter conditions which opened the possibility of a fluke result, which is what happened. The way the ball landed in Mark Keane's hands was fortunate, but that's what can happens when the conditions are a leveller and a game is close. Cork took advantage to get to a Munster Final and good luck to them, as another Cork man might say. Don't see why you would have sacked a manager in circumstances like this. There was more than enough from the league campaign to say management were doing a good job. It wasn’t just the result, it was the way we set up. We went defensive against a poor cork team, Keane should have gone after that and last year was a wasted year by having the same management team there. This nonsense about us being ‘animals’ whenever we question a managers performance is unbelievably frustrating. We left at least 2 and probably 3 all Irelands behind us in the last 3 years and it’s not just Kerry people who think that, it’s more or less the whole country. So to expect a team to perform to a level that it’s expected to reach in even 1 out of 3 years isn’t overly demanding. The long & short of it is that we should have won a few All Irelands and poor tactical set ups, baffling squad choices and poor substitutions cost us. The tactical stuff being the worst by a country mile.
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Post by ciarraimick on Apr 23, 2022 12:23:38 GMT
The game was played in horrendous winter conditions which opened the possibility of a fluke result, which is what happened. The way the ball landed in Mark Keane's hands was fortunate, but that's what can happens when the conditions are a leveller and a game is close. Cork took advantage to get to a Munster Final and good luck to them, as another Cork man might say. Don't see why you would have sacked a manager in circumstances like this. There was more than enough from the league campaign to say management were doing a good job. It wasn’t just the result, it was the way we set up. We went defensive against a poor cork team, Keane should have gone after that and last year was a wasted year by having the same management team there. This nonsense about us being ‘animals’ whenever we question a managers performance is unbelievably frustrating. We left at least 2 and probably 3 all Irelands behind us in the last 3 years and it’s not just Kerry people who think that, it’s more or less the whole country. So to expect a team to perform to a level that it’s expected to reach in even 1 out of 3 years isn’t overly demanding. The long & short of it is that we should have won a few All Irelands and poor tactical set ups, baffling squad choices and poor substitutions cost us. The tactical stuff being the worst by a country mile. Yes the way PK and his management team set up v Cork in 2020 was so annoying but in a way Jack and his management team are playing a similar type set up. The big difference is our defenders are playing much better now and Morley back at CB so important. I still worry that our attacking threat has been hampered by our defensive strategy(especially the half forwards) The problem with our style now us it bring opposition backs up to the scoring zone and that's how we were beaten by Tyrone last two times. As a matter of fact when we are beaten it's no coincidence that the man of the match is often from the half back line
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Post by Mickmack on Apr 23, 2022 12:29:50 GMT
It wasn’t just the result, it was the way we set up. We went defensive against a poor cork team, Keane should have gone after that and last year was a wasted year by having the same management team there. This nonsense about us being ‘animals’ whenever we question a managers performance is unbelievably frustrating. We left at least 2 and probably 3 all Irelands behind us in the last 3 years and it’s not just Kerry people who think that, it’s more or less the whole country. So to expect a team to perform to a level that it’s expected to reach in even 1 out of 3 years isn’t overly demanding. The long & short of it is that we should have won a few All Irelands and poor tactical set ups, baffling squad choices and poor substitutions cost us. The tactical stuff being the worst by a country mile. Yes the way PK and his management team set up v Cork in 2020 was so annoying but in a way Jack and his management team are playing a similar type set up. The big difference is our defenders are playing much better now and Morley back at CB so important. Paddy Tallys influence?
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Post by ciarraimick on Apr 23, 2022 15:47:55 GMT
Yes the way PK and his management team set up v Cork in 2020 was so annoying but in a way Jack and his management team are playing a similar type set up. The big difference is our defenders are playing much better now and Morley back at CB so important. Paddy Tallys influence? Under Tally we seemed to have tightened up alright and defending better no doubt. However while we are nt conceding goals we have been opened up on a few occassions. Donie Buckley was the messiah of back coaches according to the Kerry players and ex players but we were still opened up easily under Donie in 19.In 2020 PK tried the defensive approach v Cork and we lost albeit a lucky late goal. I just hope that now Jack who is playing the defensive system PK tried in 2020 does nt affect our scoring threat.
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Post by kerryexile on Apr 23, 2022 19:19:00 GMT
I know yeah and the fact that our then manager survived is something that I still can’t quite fathom The game was played in horrendous winter conditions which opened the possibility of a fluke result, which is what happened. The way the ball landed in Mark Keane's hands was fortunate, but that's what can happens when the conditions are a leveller and a game is close. Cork took advantage to get to a Munster Final and good luck to them, as another Cork man might say. Don't see why you would have sacked a manager in circumstances like this. There was more than enough from the league campaign to say management were doing a good job. Absolutely correct diego. And in the other 2 games of PK's management Kerry were beaten by the so called greatest team of all time in a replay, and by the eventual AI champions by 1 point after extra time. There are people posting here who have Repetitive Compulsion. We have to move on. There is an AI to be won this year.
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Post by brucewayne on Apr 23, 2022 19:44:07 GMT
Tally's influence is not lasting if the Galway boys are anything to go by. Wide open in division 2, it'll be interesting to see how they do tomorrow.
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Post by kerrybhoy06 on Apr 24, 2022 6:37:14 GMT
The game was played in horrendous winter conditions which opened the possibility of a fluke result, which is what happened. The way the ball landed in Mark Keane's hands was fortunate, but that's what can happens when the conditions are a leveller and a game is close. Cork took advantage to get to a Munster Final and good luck to them, as another Cork man might say. Don't see why you would have sacked a manager in circumstances like this. There was more than enough from the league campaign to say management were doing a good job. Absolutely correct diego. And in the other 2 games of PK's management Kerry were beaten by the so called greatest team of all time in a replay, and by the eventual AI champions by 1 point after extra time. There are people posting here who have Repetitive Compulsion. We have to move on. There is an AI to be won this year. Repetitive Compulsion? Yeah that’s it alright We failed 3 times in big matches due to tactical errors abs it cost us 3 AI titles, so it should be discussed when it comes up. Not everyone has to be a happy, clappy fan who is delighted with whoever goes out there cos “ah sure they have it an oul go”.
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Post by greengold35 on Apr 24, 2022 9:56:39 GMT
The game was played in horrendous winter conditions which opened the possibility of a fluke result, which is what happened. The way the ball landed in Mark Keane's hands was fortunate, but that's what can happens when the conditions are a leveller and a game is close. Cork took advantage to get to a Munster Final and good luck to them, as another Cork man might say. Don't see why you would have sacked a manager in circumstances like this. There was more than enough from the league campaign to say management were doing a good job. Absolutely correct diego. And in the other 2 games of PK's management Kerry were beaten by the so called greatest team of all time in a replay, and by the eventual AI champions by 1 point after extra time. There are people posting here who have Repetitive Compulsion. We have to move on. There is an AI to be won this year. We lost to Cork not because of the weather but our own defensive set up which allowed a poor Cork side compete - there is no denying that our tactics were not to blame. Tipperary exposed Cork for what they were & Mayo had the easiest of passages to the final. If you look back to the AI final replay of ‘19 we did the opposite of what worked in the drawn game allowing Dublin the kick out - we were run ragged in the first 20 mins - Killian Spillane & Tommy Walsh were both influential in the drawn game & one of the biggest talking points prior to the replay was would either or both get a starting berth - neither did & their introduction was too late to make a difference. PK was unlucky last year when David Clifford got cramp as I would think having him in ET would have got us over the line - he ( PK) was the author of our downfall in 19 & 20.
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Post by horsebox77 on Apr 24, 2022 10:35:13 GMT
I take it there is an A vs B back in Currans this morning, the place was packed yesterday morning with 6 different development groups as well as the 30 odd minors back there scrambling for pitches
I suspect it was a no go area this morning
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Post by Kerryman Randy Savage on Apr 24, 2022 10:58:50 GMT
Absolutely correct diego. And in the other 2 games of PK's management Kerry were beaten by the so called greatest team of all time in a replay, and by the eventual AI champions by 1 point after extra time. There are people posting here who have Repetitive Compulsion. We have to move on. There is an AI to be won this year. We lost to Cork not because of the weather but our own defensive set up which allowed a poor Cork side compete - there is no denying that our tactics were not to blame. Tipperary exposed Cork for what they were & Mayo had the easiest of passages to the final. If you look back to the AI final replay of ‘19 we did the opposite of what worked in the drawn game allowing Dublin the kick out - we were run ragged in the first 20 mins - Killian Spillane & Tommy Walsh were both influential in the drawn game & one of the biggest talking points prior to the replay was would either or both get a starting berth - neither did & their introduction was too late to make a difference. PK was unlucky last year when David Clifford got cramp as I would think having him in ET would have got us over the line - he ( PK) was the author of our downfall in 19 & 20. Did Clifford get cramp? I thought he was injured after he was cleaned out going for a short Seanie Shea point attempt.
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Post by tpo on Apr 24, 2022 22:04:32 GMT
No official word yet ?
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Post by The16thMan on Apr 25, 2022 15:44:17 GMT
Disgraceful that the Munster Council haven't confirmed yet. They haven't done much since announcing Killarney as the new venue at the start of April. I'm guessing they won't confirm until later this week. They should put this issue to bed by confirming Pairc Ui Rinn or rejecting it.
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Post by The16thMan on Apr 25, 2022 21:40:55 GMT
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Post by Kerryman Randy Savage on Apr 25, 2022 21:51:07 GMT
That statement was class. Reiterated Kerry's statement that Cork Footballers were looking to break the agreement between the county boards. Savage as fluich.
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Post by Mickmack on Apr 26, 2022 7:09:02 GMT
I wonder why did it take the Munster council so long to rubber stamp the setting aside of the arrangement between Cork and Kerry.
When they were setting aside the agreement themselves (in appointing PUR originally) they were much quicker.
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Post by southward on Apr 26, 2022 8:16:55 GMT
I wonder why did it take the Munster council so long to rubber stamp the setting aside of the arrangement between Cork and Kerry. When they were setting aside the agreement themselves (in appointing PUR originally) they were much quicker. Waiting for the fig-leaf from Kerry.
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Post by Mickmack on Apr 26, 2022 8:29:56 GMT
I wonder why did it take the Munster council so long to rubber stamp the setting aside of the arrangement between Cork and Kerry. When they were setting aside the agreement themselves (in appointing PUR originally) they were much quicker. Waiting for the fig-leaf from Kerry. Looking that way alright
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Post by onlykerry on Apr 26, 2022 9:58:53 GMT
So the Munster Council that was so concerned about the capacity at PUR have now added a second match (and third county) to the program to add to the ticket demand and disbursement needs.
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Post by Kerryman Randy Savage on Apr 26, 2022 11:11:01 GMT
So the Munster Council that was so concerned about the capacity at PUR have now added a second match (and third county) to the program to add to the ticket demand and disbursement needs. The Munster Council promised Cumann Peil Gael na mBan they would be the curtain raiser. I expect the offer stood and if they wanted to pull the game they could. When you give your word, out of respect you follow through. Maybe the Cork footballers need to learn that too.
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Post by Control5 on Apr 26, 2022 14:21:17 GMT
As the venue is now settled i will lock this one and debate on the match can take place on the other thread
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