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Post by thehermit on Apr 22, 2022 13:10:32 GMT
If they caught again especially after all that's gone on the past three weeks then I'll buy a Dublin jersey ...
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Post by kerrybhoy06 on Apr 22, 2022 13:37:58 GMT
The difference there is Kerry trained for three separate dates and we're overcooked and lost by the tightest of margins in extra time. The date here hasn't changed and I'm sure that Jack planned for the game in Cork at all times. At no stage did Cork actually take any responsibility for the mess they created. They deserve another hiding. Also Jack, thankfully, isn’t Peter Keane
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Post by ciarraimick on Apr 22, 2022 13:53:33 GMT
The difference there is Kerry trained for three separate dates and we're overcooked and lost by the tightest of margins in extra time. The date here hasn't changed and I'm sure that Jack planned for the game in Cork at all times. At no stage did Cork actually take any responsibility for the mess they created. They deserve another hiding. Also Jack, thankfully, isn’t Peter Keane Jack was beaten by Cork in munster championship 3 times albeit a better Cork team than now. Of course Kerry should win and win easy but I'd never take Cork for granted and John Cleary is a good manager.
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Post by onlykerry on Apr 22, 2022 14:26:50 GMT
If they caught again especially after all that's gone on the past three weeks then I'll buy a Dublin jersey ... There are cheaper floor mops!!! Buying and wearing are worlds apart.
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Post by thehermit on Apr 22, 2022 15:03:32 GMT
If they caught again especially after all that's gone on the past three weeks then I'll buy a Dublin jersey ... There are cheaper floor mops!!! Buying and wearing are worlds apart. Exactly, one must remember the subtleties involved when giving hostages to fortune
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Post by horsebox77 on Apr 22, 2022 15:13:10 GMT
Also Jack, thankfully, isn’t Peter Keane J Of course Kerry should win and win easy but I'd never take Cork for granted and John Cleary is a good manager. Indeed, we often discussed potential Cork managers on HS, Cleary was very successful with the U21 team he had but always appears to be either passed over or fall at the final hurdle... Being beaten by Brian Cuthbert for me was the biggest blow, I recall at the time he as assembled a tidy and knowledgeable team around him. Cork will be in a good place no doubt under Cleary, but still we are in a different league to the present Cork outfit. Looking out West, what is the feeling on Mayo/Galway.. I half fancy an upset here..
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Post by Kerryman Randy Savage on Apr 22, 2022 15:34:37 GMT
J Of course Kerry should win and win easy but I'd never take Cork for granted and John Cleary is a good manager. Indeed, we often discussed potential Cork managers on HS, Cleary was very successful with the U21 team he had but always appears to be either passed over or fall at the final hurdle... Being beaten by Brian Cuthbert for me was the biggest blow, I recall at the time he as assembled a tidy and knowledgeable team around him. Cork will be in a good place no doubt under Cleary, but still we are in a different league to the present Cork outfit. Looking out West, what is the feeling on Mayo/Galway.. I half fancy an upset here.. Cuthbert 🙈 The Cork County Board should have been sectioned when they hired him over Cleary. Cleary is an excellent substitute but there is too much to do in a short time for him.
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Post by fitz on Apr 22, 2022 15:35:54 GMT
Cork should be treated with disdain for this nonsense, and beaten with ice cold ruthlessness
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Post by ciarraimick on Apr 22, 2022 15:41:31 GMT
J Of course Kerry should win and win easy but I'd never take Cork for granted and John Cleary is a good manager. Indeed, we often discussed potential Cork managers on HS, Cleary was very successful with the U21 team he had but always appears to be either passed over or fall at the final hurdle... Being beaten by Brian Cuthbert for me was the biggest blow, I recall at the time he as assembled a tidy and knowledgeable team around him. Cork will be in a good place no doubt under Cleary, but still we are in a different league to the present Cork outfit. Looking out West, what is the feeling on Mayo/Galway.. I half fancy an upset here.. Yes I've a slight fancy for Galway myself. After last years 2nd half collapse v Mayo surely there is a kick in them although Mayo have home advantage.
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Post by Mickmack on Apr 22, 2022 15:52:19 GMT
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Post by Mickmack on Apr 22, 2022 16:02:25 GMT
The behaviour of the Munster Council gets more odd.
They appointed PUR in contravention of agreegments
They cancelled PUR as there wouldnt be enough bums on seats
Now PUR may be ok again as Kerry and Cork are exchanging emails or whatever.....
so where is the "not enough bums on seats" criteria gone.....is that now no longer relevant..... in which case why did they stick their oar in atall and move the game to Killarney.
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Post by john4 on Apr 22, 2022 16:13:31 GMT
So what I'm seeing happening here is PUR has been accepted by Kerry as Corks home ground in 2022, similar to the way Walsh Park has a capacity of 11,000 this would make the Munster Council's concern about capacity redundant thereby paving the way for the match to be fixed for PUR. Everybody's blushes spared. Game on! On a side note. The above article, almost all referring to Cork football and the author just couldn't help themselves adding the last paragraph about a Cork hurling match. I'm beginning to understand the grief within the Cork football people. Could they not, just once, focus on football only.
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Post by Kerryman Randy Savage on Apr 22, 2022 16:23:22 GMT
I know it's pointless but were Kerry drawn out first in the Munster draw last November? So in all circumstances Cork have no right to a home game yet threw a strop for a home game. 😂
Anyone know when Munster Council are meeting next?
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Post by Mickmack on Apr 22, 2022 16:29:16 GMT
I'm beginning to understand the grief within the Cork football people. Could they not, just once, focus on football only. I always believed the Cork footballers had a grevience in this instance.
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Post by Mickmack on Apr 22, 2022 16:31:54 GMT
I know it's pointless but were Kerry drawn out first in the Munster draw last November? So in all circumstances Cork have no right to a home game yet threw a strop for a home game. 😂 Anyone know when Munster Council are meeting next? The draw is to decide who plays who. Not where they play.
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Post by Kerryman Randy Savage on Apr 22, 2022 16:36:56 GMT
I know it's pointless but were Kerry drawn out first in the Munster draw last November? So in all circumstances Cork have no right to a home game yet threw a strop for a home game. 😂 Anyone know when Munster Council are meeting next? The draw is to decide who plays who. Not where they play. If there was no agreement whoever gets picked out first get home advantage in almost every draw. Cork want the Home/Away agreement to go this year but it should automatically mean Killarney again. It really shows what an embarrassment they are to Gaelic Football. Don't make agreements if you can't stick to them.
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Post by kerrybhoy06 on Apr 22, 2022 16:57:34 GMT
Also Jack, thankfully, isn’t Peter Keane Jack was beaten by Cork in munster championship 3 times albeit a better Cork team than now. Of course Kerry should win and win easy but I'd never take Cork for granted and John Cleary is a good manager. Not even remotely comparable to this cork team. That’s like saying that it wouldnt be an embarrassment for us to lose to Offaly because they beat us in 82
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Post by KY50 on Apr 22, 2022 18:02:51 GMT
Jack was beaten by Cork in munster championship 3 times albeit a better Cork team than now. Of course Kerry should win and win easy but I'd never take Cork for granted and John Cleary is a good manager. Not even remotely comparable to this cork team. That’s like saying that it wouldnt be an embarrassment for us to lose to Offaly because they beat us in 82 This Cork team beat us two years ago when they were division 3 and we at the top of division 1
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Post by royalkerryfan on Apr 22, 2022 18:13:13 GMT
Not even remotely comparable to this cork team. That’s like saying that it wouldnt be an embarrassment for us to lose to Offaly because they beat us in 82 This Cork team beat us two years ago when they were division 3 and we at the top of division 1 That was a complete and utter fluke and bears no relevance to now. They then lost to Tipp.
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Post by clarinman on Apr 22, 2022 18:14:55 GMT
I'm beginning to understand the grief within the Cork football people. Could they not, just once, focus on football only. I always believed the Cork footballers had a grevience in this instance. The question Mick is why Cork chose to ignore the historic agreement this year. They had no problem coming to Killarney in 74 and 75 while PUC was being built. Again no problem coming to Killarney 3 times in 16/17 during the rebuild. Their arguement for PUR is nonsense and should be rejected by the Munster council.
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Post by Annascaultilidie on Apr 22, 2022 18:19:00 GMT
This Cork team beat us two years ago when they were division 3 and we at the top of division 1 That was a complete and utter fluke and bears no relevance to now. They then lost to Tipp. I admire your full bore optimism about Kerry. It means you put your arse on the line.
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Post by royalkerryfan on Apr 22, 2022 18:22:41 GMT
That was a complete and utter fluke and bears no relevance to now. They then lost to Tipp. I admire your full bore optimism about Kerry. It means you put your arse on the line. Yes something that has bitten me in the past I accept but in all honesty you can and should respect the opposition but this cork team are a shambles. We should be winning and winning well.
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Post by Mickmack on Apr 22, 2022 18:30:04 GMT
I always believed the Cork footballers had a grevience in this instance. The question Mick is why Cork chose to ignore the historic agreement this year. They had no problem coming to Killarney in 74 and 75 while PUC was being built. Again no problem coming to Killarney 3 times in 16/17 during the rebuild. Their arguement for PUR is nonsense and should be rejected by the Munster council. I imagine that in 1974 and in 2016 there was a long lead in as planning had to be applied for and builders engaged and the dogs in the street knew that PUC was going to be out of bounds long beforehand. Tony Holohan took everyone by surprise a number of weeks ago by saying covid is over given the high uptake of the vaccine etc. Suddenly, concerts that had to be cancelled were possible again and big names like Ed Sheerin were being rescheduled. The draw had pitched Kerry v Cork by that stage at semi final stage. Had the draw kept them apart there would have been no problem. Suddenly there is a scramble...the hurling round robin is changed to reflect the unavailability of PUC. Cork hurlers do well out of that process..... they no longer have a punishing schedule. Kerry v Cork is sent to PUR and while there are complaints by some fans, it doesnt seem to be a big issue. Out of the blue the Munster Council change their mind on the pretext of capacity and refix the game for Killarney Cork footballers see themselves getting the short straw here. It now looks like the ground capacity is no longer an issue. The Munster Council must be borrowing the idea of 'Bobby Ewing having a dream' which was the pretext for pretending that a whole season of Dallas never happened.
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Post by Corner Back on Apr 22, 2022 18:34:40 GMT
After League final - Kerry "we will play the game anywhere"
Couple of weeks later - Kerry "we can play it in PUR"
Problem solved?!
Kerry were always willing to play it in PUR
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Post by clarinman on Apr 22, 2022 18:49:47 GMT
The question Mick is why Cork chose to ignore the historic agreement this year. They had no problem coming to Killarney in 74 and 75 while PUC was being built. Again no problem coming to Killarney 3 times in 16/17 during the rebuild. Their arguement for PUR is nonsense and should be rejected by the Munster council. I imagine that in 1974 and in 2016 there was a long lead in as planning had to be applied for and builders engaged and the dogs in the street knew that PUC was going to be out of bounds long beforehand. Tony Holohan took everyone by surprise a number of weeks ago by saying covid is over given the high uptake of the vaccine etc. Suddenly, concerts that had to be cancelled were possible again and big names like Ed Sheerin were being rescheduled. The draw had pitched Kerry v Cork by that stage at semi final stage. Had the draw kept them apart there would have been no problem. Suddenly there is a scramble...the hurling round robin is changed to reflect the unavailability of PUC. Cork hurlers do well out of that process..... they no longer have a punishing schedule. Kerry v Cork is sent to PUR and while there are complaints by some fans, it doesnt seem to be a big issue. Out of the blue the Munster Council change their mind on the pretext of capacity and refix the game for Killarney Cork footballers see themselves getting the short straw here. It now looks like the ground capacity is no longer an issue. The Munster Council must be borrowing the idea of 'Bobby Ewing having a dream' which was the pretext for pretending that a whole season of Dallas never happened. Mick, the attendances at the last 2 Kerry cork matches were limited to 200 and 1500. The priority here should have been to choose a ground to let as many fans get to see the game as possible. PUR rules this out. Cork county board and footballers have given the finger to supporters who have supported this game year after year.
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Post by thehermit on Apr 22, 2022 19:14:27 GMT
I've booked a cheap (cancelable) hotel for the night anyway assuming I get a ticket. The decent hotels are fairly fecking pricey already.
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Post by kerrybhoy06 on Apr 22, 2022 22:16:37 GMT
Not even remotely comparable to this cork team. That’s like saying that it wouldnt be an embarrassment for us to lose to Offaly because they beat us in 82 This Cork team beat us two years ago when they were division 3 and we at the top of division 1 I know yeah and the fact that our then manager survived is something that I still can’t quite fathom
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Post by ciarraimick on Apr 23, 2022 0:04:24 GMT
This Cork team beat us two years ago when they were division 3 and we at the top of division 1 I know yeah and the fact that our then manager survived is something that I still can’t quite fathom He survived because he was appointed by the county board. The same county board that appointed Jack.
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Post by dc84 on Apr 23, 2022 0:05:05 GMT
This Cork team beat us two years ago when they were division 3 and we at the top of division 1 I know yeah and the fact that our then manager survived is something that I still can’t quite fathom Covid is the only reason, I believe it did anyway ultimately only Sam would have saved him last year.
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Post by ciarraimick on Apr 23, 2022 0:10:43 GMT
I know yeah and the fact that our then manager survived is something that I still can’t quite fathom Covid is the only reason, I believe it did anyway ultimately only Sam would have saved him last year. And I'd right us right only Sam will save Jack too. Jack is old school but his recent championship record is dire. People have short memories.
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