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Post by aranteorainn on Jun 13, 2018 12:40:56 GMT
Gig in the Marquee on the same night. Traffic and parking will be tough going.
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Post by Annascaultilidie on Jun 13, 2018 12:42:54 GMT
Gig in the Marquee on the same night. Traffic and parking will be tough going. That is actually crazy. At least doors for that are 19:30.Ha it gets better! On the Thursday and Friday the doors are 19:30 but they are 18:30 the night of the Kerry match. lol Very glad to be staying the night and walking from town.
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Post by sullyschoice on Jun 13, 2018 15:14:15 GMT
Hasn't Colm O Neill done his cruciate two or three times already. That poor fella won't be able to walk when he gets to my age.
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Post by KY50 on Jun 13, 2018 16:18:53 GMT
Kerry will have to be at their very best to have any chance here. Cork players are a little bit older with U21 Munster medals plus getting to a few AI's in the last number of years. Look at what happened to Crokes V Nemo in the Munster Club final - Felt Crokes were a little overconfident before the game. Cork looked very impressive and physical against Tipperary, they [Cork] are on an upward curve.First game in the revamped Pairc where they will want to put on a good display and teach us a lesson. We were nearly caught out in 2015 and Cork should have beaten Mayo last year in Limerick but were too late in making the required switches.
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Post by Mickmack on Jun 13, 2018 17:11:53 GMT
Seldom has there been a Munster final between Kerry and Cork where you would not be shocked at any outcome.
There is a case to be made that the new young blood in Kerry will lift Kerry to a level well higher than the past three years.
You could also say that Kerry were lucky enough to avoid relegation with that last minute point v Donegal being vital.
I think we can safely say that both sides will turn up on the day.
Cork have a new voice in the dressing room and like the Dublin hurlers under Gilroy, will put in a huge effort.
Any outcome wont surprise me.
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Post by fitz on Jun 13, 2018 17:34:01 GMT
Hasn't Colm O Neill done his cruciate two or three times already. That poor fella won't be able to walk when he gets to my age. Yep 3 cruciate ops
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Post by hatchetman on Jun 13, 2018 17:53:51 GMT
Hasn't Colm O Neill done his cruciate two or three times already. That poor fella won't be able to walk when he gets to my age. I don't think many of us will get to 98 let alone worry about walking!
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Post by royalkerryfan on Jun 13, 2018 18:40:41 GMT
Kerry will have to be at their very best to have any chance here. Cork players are a little bit older with U21 Munster medals plus getting to a few AI's in the last number of years. Look at what happened to Crokes V Nemo in the Munster Club final - Felt Crokes were a little overconfident before the game. Cork looked very impressive and physical against Tipperary, they [Cork] are on an upward curve.First game in the revamped Pairc where they will want to put on a good display and teach us a lesson. We were nearly caught out in 2015 and Cork should have beaten Mayo last year in Limerick but were too late in making the required switches. Can't agree here, This Kerry team is 9/10 points better than this Cork team. We had this debate before the 2016 final and Kerry won comfortably. As it stands Kerry have the best FF line in the country and should win this with a bit to spare.
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Post by Annascaultilidie on Jun 13, 2018 19:35:16 GMT
Kerry will have to be at their very best to have any chance here. Cork players are a little bit older with U21 Munster medals plus getting to a few AI's in the last number of years. Look at what happened to Crokes V Nemo in the Munster Club final - Felt Crokes were a little overconfident before the game. Cork looked very impressive and physical against Tipperary, they [Cork] are on an upward curve.First game in the revamped Pairc where they will want to put on a good display and teach us a lesson. We were nearly caught out in 2015 and Cork should have beaten Mayo last year in Limerick but were too late in making the required switches. Can't agree here, This Kerry team is 9/10 points better than this Cork team. We had this debate before the 2016 final and Kerry won comfortably. As it stands Kerry have the best FF line in the country and should win this with a bit to spare. You're only setting yourself up for disappointment. We'll have all the answers Saturday week as regards how these teams compare.
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Post by royalkerryfan on Jun 13, 2018 19:43:59 GMT
Can't agree here, This Kerry team is 9/10 points better than this Cork team. We had this debate before the 2016 final and Kerry won comfortably. As it stands Kerry have the best FF line in the country and should win this with a bit to spare. You're only setting yourself up for disappointment. We'll have all the answers Saturday week as regards how these teams compare. I'm expecting Kerry to win everyday I go to watch them so naturally I'm disappointed when we don't. But in this case like in 2016 I look at the stats and I don't see how Cork will win it based on the last few seasons. Struggled in division 2 for 2 seasons, on their day they they can shock a team like Mayo last year. I'm sure they will want to perform in their first final in the new stadium but you need more than that to win a football match.
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Post by Mickmack on Jun 13, 2018 20:16:12 GMT
You're only setting yourself up for disappointment. We'll have all the answers Saturday week as regards how these teams compare. I'm expecting Kerry to win everyday I go to watch them so naturally I'm disappointed when we don't. But in this case like in 2016 I look at the stats and I don't see how Cork will win it based on the last few seasons. Struggled in division 2 for 2 seasons, on their day they they can shock a team like Mayo last year. I'm sure they will want to perform in their first final in the new stadium but you need more than that to win a football match. Reminds me of similar blind optimism from your good self before the drawn game last year v Mayo.
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Post by kerryboy83 on Jun 13, 2018 20:20:26 GMT
Are we expecting the same 15 from the Clare game?
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Post by royalkerryfan on Jun 13, 2018 20:30:59 GMT
Seldom has there been a Munster final between Kerry and Cork where you would not be shocked at any outcome. There is a case to be made that the new young blood in Kerry will lift Kerry to a level well higher than the past three years. You could also say that Kerry were lucky enough to avoid relegation with that last minute point v Donegal being vital. I think we can safely say that both sides will turn up on the day. Cork have a new voice in the dressing room and like the Dublin hurlers under Gilroy, will put in a huge effort. Any outcome wont surprise me. Got that one wrong infairness Mick although Kerry should have won that drawn game. There is a difference between Cork and Mayo in fairness. Ok can someone give me the rational for a Cork win?
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Post by dc84 on Jun 13, 2018 21:10:19 GMT
Seldom has there been a Munster final between Kerry and Cork where you would not be shocked at any outcome. There is a case to be made that the new young blood in Kerry will lift Kerry to a level well higher than the past three years. You could also say that Kerry were lucky enough to avoid relegation with that last minute point v Donegal being vital. I think we can safely say that both sides will turn up on the day. Cork have a new voice in the dressing room and like the Dublin hurlers under Gilroy, will put in a huge effort. Any outcome wont surprise me. Got that one wrong infairness Mick although Kerry should have won that drawn game. There is a difference between Cork and Mayo in fairness. Ok can someone give me the rational for a Cork win? Ok i will try.. they get a run on us at midfield early on with hard running through the middle from maguire in particular getting an early goal. Connolly and oneill have one of those days and score everything our inexperienced lads lose confidence and composure and start playing as individuals. That to me is the worry. Dont think it will happen though😉
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Post by Mickmack on Jun 13, 2018 21:34:48 GMT
Cork v Mayo in 2017
Cork reputed to be playing better in 2018.
Hopefully Kerry are better too.
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Post by taibhse on Jun 14, 2018 8:36:55 GMT
Realistically, it would be reasonable to think that the same 15 would start again. I accept that the performance was largely positive but if there are areas that can be improved or tweaked then the management might do so.
Midfield was probably the area where we looked in some difficulty for most of the 1st. half. I accept that the Clare pair were as good as anything we will encounter in this Championship but do we have better options or should we start the same pair? I understand that Maher is impressing in training and is more mobile than Moran and delivers a faster and more direct ball. The same with Kevin McCarthy – good movement, abrasive and great ball skills and will have an impact on this Championship when he gets his chance.
I felt that there was a visible change in the set-up and style of play in both defense and attack in the Clare game. Obviously, some of that was attributable to the infusion of youth but it was more than that.
Seamus Weldon is held in high regard within the coaching fraternity and I felt his influence was visible in much of that performance. Kerry conceded less soft frees, especially within scoring range. There was very little back passing, especially from frees. And above all- Maurice Fitzgerald was doing the on-field running. Other stuff too and overall, we looked a lot smarter and slicker outfit and I look forward to further evolution as the year progresses.
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Post by kerrygold on Jun 14, 2018 9:07:07 GMT
Realistically, it would be reasonable to think that the same 15 would start again. I accept that the performance was largely positive but if there are areas that can be improved or tweaked then the management might do so. Midfield was probably the area where we looked in some difficulty for most of the 1st. half. I accept that the Clare pair were as good as anything we will encounter in this Championship but do we have better options or should we start the same pair? I understand that Maher is impressing in training and is more mobile than Moran and delivers a faster and more direct ball. The same with Kevin McCarthy – good movement, abrasive and great ball skills and will have an impact on this Championship when he gets his chance. I felt that there was a visible change in the set-up and style of play in both defense and attack in the Clare game. Obviously, some of that was attributable to the infusion of youth but it was more than that. Seamus Weldon is held in high regard within the coaching fraternity and I felt his influence was visible in much of that performance. Kerry conceded less soft frees, especially within scoring range. There was very little back passing, especially from frees. And above all- Maurice Fitzgerald was doing the on-field running. Other stuff too and overall, we looked a lot smarter and slicker outfit and I look forward to further evolution as the year progresses. Kerry will meet better midfields later in the summer than Clare's. We don't have many options to change here with O'Connor in Australia so they will have to make do with what they have. The restarts are also hugely important and Kerry's are far from cracked. Jim McGuiness offers an insight into the restart game here in the link below. Dublin and Mayo will push Kerry's restarts to the limit. www.irishtimes.com/sport/gaelic-games/jim-mcguinness-positives-still-for-meath-after-disappointing-loss-to-tyrone-1.3527022
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Post by taibhse on Jun 14, 2018 9:50:04 GMT
The rule change that requires the ball to go beyond the 21 has greatly restricted the keeper's options. It will almost certainly mean that there will be a lot of long ball stuff with a greater requirement for accuracy and good fielders as well as broken ball in the middle third. We could have done better there against Clare too.
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Post by sullyschoice on Jun 14, 2018 23:36:37 GMT
Hasn't Colm O Neill done his cruciate two or three times already. That poor fella won't be able to walk when he gets to my age. I don't think many of us will get to 98 let alone worry about walking! Shots fired
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Post by Deleted on Jun 15, 2018 12:59:11 GMT
Cork v Mayo in 2017 Cork reputed to be playing better in 2018. Hopefully Kerry are better too. There was a massive difference in the performance of the mayo team v cork and in their performances in latter part of the championship last year. If Cork had faced the Mayo team that played against us in the semi and Dublin in the final they would have got taken apart.
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Post by piggott on Jun 15, 2018 13:19:11 GMT
Cork v Mayo in 2017 Cork reputed to be playing better in 2018. Hopefully Kerry are better too. There was a massive difference in the performance of the mayo team v cork and in their performances in latter part of the championship last year. If Cork had faced the Mayo team that played against us in the semi and Dublin in the final they would have got taken apart. Or the difference between the Mayo team that drew with Roscommon and hammered them in the replay. Mayo seem to know how to time their run. We peaked against Cork last year and went backwards thereafter.
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Post by dc84 on Jun 15, 2018 14:55:50 GMT
There was a massive difference in the performance of the mayo team v cork and in their performances in latter part of the championship last year. If Cork had faced the Mayo team that played against us in the semi and Dublin in the final they would have got taken apart. Or the difference between the Mayo team that drew with Roscommon and hammered them in the replay. Mayo seem to know how to time their run. We peaked against Cork last year and went backwards thereafter. Very true we were very good in the league last year aswell so took its toll greater competition for places should keep the standard higher.
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Post by haryegsnbaken on Jun 15, 2018 22:27:42 GMT
Kerry will have to be at their very best to have any chance here. Cork players are a little bit older with U21 Munster medals plus getting to a few AI's in the last number of years. Look at what happened to Crokes V Nemo in the Munster Club final - Felt Crokes were a little overconfident before the game. Cork looked very impressive and physical against Tipperary, they [Cork] are on an upward curve.First game in the revamped Pairc where they will want to put on a good display and teach us a lesson. We were nearly caught out in 2015 and Cork should have beaten Mayo last year in Limerick but were too late in making the required switches. Can't agree here, This Kerry team is 9/10 points better than this Cork team. We had this debate before the 2016 final and Kerry won comfortably. As it stands Kerry have the best FF line in the country and should win this with a bit to spare. On Paper you may be right R K F.
BUT take it from a man who is here in Cork for many years.
This Cork team are primed and ready. The long grass is there. A lot of these Cork boys have victories in Munster over our lads.
Make no mistake if we don't see our boys at their best and "Buying in to" EF and his philosophy(Whatever that is) then it could be a long evening.
I for one cant wait for this game to come around. It will be a stern test.
I hope it gives us a PROPER idea of what we can expect from our boys for the rest of the Summer.
At the end of the day a defeat wouldn't be the end of the world but for me up here???
UGH!!!
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Post by kerryexile on Jun 16, 2018 10:02:34 GMT
During the league it looked as if Cork might be relegated to division 3.
If Dublin were playing Cork next week, regardless of any hypothetical scenarios, they would arrive in Cork, beat them by about 10 points and go home.
I believe Kerry will do something similar maybe winning by a few points less because Eamonn will probably start a few different players like Gavin Crowley and Kevin McCarthy and 1 or 2 more. The numbers will be needed for the Super 8s.
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Post by athletics on Jun 17, 2018 19:52:49 GMT
Not long to go now to Munster Final. Any advice as to where to park next Saturday evening? Thanks
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Post by Attacking Wing Back on Jun 18, 2018 15:07:28 GMT
So how will we shape up on Sunday? I presume we will name the same team again?
Not as confident as others on here. The Clare match was a total non event. Still dont know how good our defence really are. Midfield looked a bit ragged at the start of the clare match too.
With the pace cork have around the middle hopefully we will get tested in our defence and see if we have solved the problems or being ran at.
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Post by buck02 on Jun 18, 2018 15:25:55 GMT
Cork are an unknown quantity really but they will surely be a bit better on and off the pitch than they were last summer.
Our record down there is poor too and surely the first Munster Final in the new stadium will be worth a few points to Cork.
That said, there was something really fresh about our team the last day and you would hope that will continue on Saturday. Its a simple as this. If Kerry dont win this by at least 3 or 4 points then we really are going nowhere against the top teams so at least we'll know what direction we are heading after Saturday night.
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Post by veteran on Jun 18, 2018 16:24:09 GMT
I am a bit uneasy about the confidence being expressed about the Munster Final by people I have spoken to over the weekend. They seem to have forgotten how poor we were for most of the NFL. Undue weight seems to be put on the facile win over Clare.
People should remember how Cork were given no chance in 2015 after their annihilation in 2014 . People should also rememeber that Cork were given little chance going up to Thurles a few weeks but yet beat Tipp decisively. To put it another way, if Tipp had beaten Cork as comprehensively I suspect a lot of us would be gong up to Thurles for the final in an apprehensive mood.
I feel we need more evidence of the worth of this Kerry team other than the demolition of Clare. We do not have a great record in Pairc Ui Chaoomh. We could be in for a rigorous examination. One way or the other we will have a more informed view of the merits of our team after this encounter.
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Post by dc84 on Jun 18, 2018 16:53:03 GMT
I am a bit uneasy about the confidence being expressed about the Munster Final by people I have spoken to over the weekend. They seem to have forgotten how poor we were for most of the NFL. Undue weight seems to be put on the facile win over Clare. People should remember how Cork were given no chance in 2015 after their annihilation in 2014 . People should also rememeber that Cork were given little chance going up to Thurles a few weeks but yet beat Tipp decisively. To put it another way, if Tipp had beaten Cork as comprehensively I suspect a lot of us would be gong up to Thurles for the final in an apprehensive mood. I feel we need more evidence of the worth of this Kerry team other than the demolition of Clare. We do not have a great record in Pairc Ui Chaoomh. We could be in for a rigorous examination. One way or the other we will have a more informed view of the merits of our team after this encounter. Fair points but conversely you could say the same of cork poor league at a much lower level ok they beat tipp convincingly but its much the same team that we hammered last year, i guess we will know by 8.30 saturday.as an aside hardly a room left in cork sat night. Hope that means a big Kerry support!
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Post by buck02 on Jun 18, 2018 17:13:31 GMT
Veteran - while I agree we will be in for an "examination", I think I recall you being similarly uneasy before the Munster Final last year.
Yes we had an up and down league but Cork were the same in a Division below us. Roscommon looked very average for long parts yesterday and they won the Division Cork were in.
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