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Post by hurlingman on Jun 6, 2018 19:45:32 GMT
Something IMO that we're missing is an impact sub. While he's not everyones favorite but in 2010 when BJK first came on the panel he made a huge impact off the bench, same with Darren O Sullivan when he first came along. Other lads just don't seem to have pushed on Brendan O'Sullivan, Killian Spillane, Brian Crowley etc 2010... 8 years ago! BJK is mostly definitely not an impact sub! Score three points in non event Munster matches over the years doesn't cut it! Surely Casey should be considered for the bench, positive player with better football skill than most of the bench named above along with great ball carrying. Had some good games in the league but appears not to be given a chance. ''non event Munster matches'' Has a good record against Cork in close games and in the All-Ireland series. Something Casey can't say and he's also been given plaenty of chances. Did ok in the few games he played in the league this year don't dont see him as being any better than others who are around the panel
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Post by southward on Jun 6, 2018 19:47:50 GMT
Something IMO that we're missing is an impact sub. While he's not everyones favorite but in 2010 when BJK first came on the panel he made a huge impact off the bench, same with Darren O Sullivan when he first came along. Other lads just don't seem to have pushed on Brendan O'Sullivan, Killian Spillane, Brian Crowley etc 2010... 8 years ago! BJK is mostly definitely not an impact sub! Score three points in non event Munster matches over the years doesn't cut it! Surely Casey should be considered for the bench, positive player with better football skill than most of the bench named above along with great ball carrying. Had some good games in the league but appears not to be given a chance. Here we go again with Barry John. Yeah, a measly 3 points from play in all of 18 minutes, BJ should hang his head alright. Do you ever have anything positive to say about anybody that's not Crokes?
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Post by southward on Jun 6, 2018 20:03:07 GMT
2010... 8 years ago! BJK is mostly definitely not an impact sub! Score three points in non event Munster matches over the years doesn't cut it! Surely Casey should be considered for the bench, positive player with better football skill than most of the bench named above along with great ball carrying. Had some good games in the league but appears not to be given a chance. Here we go again with Barry John. Yeah, a measly 3 points from play in all of 18 minutes, BJ should hang his head alright. Do you ever have anything positive to say about anybody that's not Crokes?Actually, a trawl of your posts tells me the answer is an emphatic no.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 6, 2018 20:20:06 GMT
Here we go again with Barry John. Yeah, a measly 3 points from play in all of 18 minutes, BJ should hang his head alright. Do you ever have anything positive to say about anybody that's not Crokes?Actually, a trawl of your posts tells me the answer is an emphatic no. Thanks for that positive contribution to the forum.
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Post by kerryexile on Jun 6, 2018 20:55:51 GMT
Any discussion on BJK is incomplete without reference to his impetuous actions on the pitch and their consequences.
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Post by Deise Exile on Jun 6, 2018 21:04:52 GMT
Fitzmaurice expects to select from a fully fit panel for this game so there will be some competition for places at training. Young, Casey, Savage, Enright will all be putting their hands up for inclusion. Am I missing any other obvious candidates? What's Barry O'Sullivans story? Exciting times ahead for sure! I really hope we see a settled team and not changes for the sake of it the next day. The team that started against Clare deserve to start again against Cork. This will be a tricky game. Kids can be flaky but the signs are extremely positive. A tight win would bring them on in spades
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Post by fealeside on Jun 6, 2018 22:35:12 GMT
Fitzmaurice expects to select from a fully fit panel for this game so there will be some competition for places at training. Young, Casey, Savage, Enright will all be putting their hands up for inclusion. Am I missing any other obvious candidates? What's Barry O'Sullivans story? Exciting times ahead for sure! I really hope we see a settled team and not changes for the sake of it the next day. The team that started against Clare deserve to start again against Cork. This will be a tricky game. Kids can be flaky but the signs are extremely positive. A tight win would bring them on in spades I agree 100%. Let them at it now. You will see Enright and Donnacadh Walsh involved in some capacity though I'd imagine. Who loses out though is the thing. The competition for places this year should bring them on greatly as a collective seen as the 'old brigade' are obviously no longer guaranteed starters which has to give them savage hunger to get their places back. You'd imagine so anyway. I'm referring to Enright, Maher, Walsh, Donaghy, Young etc. I think that the panel has been lacking this competition all along so we can take this as a huge positive.
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Post by Hicser on Jun 6, 2018 22:47:51 GMT
I really hope we see a settled team and not changes for the sake of it the next day. The team that started against Clare deserve to start again against Cork. This will be a tricky game. Kids can be flaky but the signs are extremely positive. A tight win would bring them on in spades I agree 100%. Let them at it now. You will see Enright and Donnacadh Walsh involved in some capacity though I'd imagine. Who loses out though is the thing. The competition for places this year should bring them on greatly as a collective seen as the 'old brigade' are obviously no longer guaranteed starters which has to give them savage hunger to get their places back. You'd imagine so anyway. I'm referring to Enright, Maher, Walsh, Donaghy, Young etc. I think that the panel has been lacking this competition all along so we can take this as a huge positive. I’d be really worried if we ended up with those 5 older players on the pitch, serious lack of pace, the new lads look good, we have to trust them, get in to the 8s and games will bring them on. Introducing auld lads, well we’ll end up where we were last year,
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Post by kerrygold on Jun 7, 2018 7:47:25 GMT
It is all now about youth, fitness, speed, hunger and football after the last day. The game has moved on dramatically in kerry from last year. The older players will play a huge role also as the summer evolves.
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Post by fitz on Jun 7, 2018 10:40:25 GMT
It is all now about youth, fitness, speed, hunger and football after the last day. The game has moved on dramatically in kerry from last year. The older players will play a huge role also as the summer evolves. Agreed. The older players will be valuable from the bench predominantly, having experience in tight games could be a critical input for their introduction
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Post by kerryexile on Jun 7, 2018 11:02:52 GMT
It is all now about youth, fitness, speed, hunger and football after the last day. The game has moved on dramatically in kerry from last year. The older players will play a huge role also as the summer evolves. Agreed. The older players will be valuable from the bench predominantly, having experience in tight games could be a critical input for their introduction I agree too. I could picture Donaghy conducting the orchestra with 10 minutes to go in the AIF.
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Post by oldschool on Jun 7, 2018 12:14:47 GMT
Who really can come into the panel that wasnt there the last day? Barry O Sullivan. Killian Young. Shane Enright. Jack Savage. then youve got a few more of the younger lads. The starting 15 looks really really good but id be worried about the same 5 or 6 lads on the bench who've got alot of chances over the last few years but always seem flatter to deceive when really needed. On the subs this is what id go for if the same 15 starts i think there that is a decent and varied bench 16.kelly gk 17.griffin fbl 18.g.crowley hbl 19.beaglaoich fbl/hbl 20.young hbl 21.maher md 22.o ullivan md 23.donaghy ff/md 24.mccarthy hf/ff 25.bjk ff 26.darren hf/ff
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Post by oldschool on Jun 7, 2018 12:18:14 GMT
I think Kieran Donaghy should have a role in Mun. final. Great leader, great hands. unselfish and can cause havoc in any defence.
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Post by dc84 on Jun 7, 2018 12:47:20 GMT
I think Kieran Donaghy should have a role in Mun. final. Great leader, great hands. unselfish and can cause havoc in any defence. I would have 2 small issues with that.firstly Geaney plays his best stuff at 14 be a mistake to move him to 15. And secondly he has a lack of mobility that the top teams will exploit going the other direction. Sub last 10 yes starting no
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Post by Mickmack on Jun 7, 2018 16:34:43 GMT
I think Kieran Donaghy should have a role in Mun. final. Great leader, great hands. unselfish and can cause havoc in any defence. Midway through the first half of the 2018 league game Dublin decided to impose themselves on the young Kerry players and they did. The likes of Donaghy and Maher will need to be there to sort out that out. Kerrys opponents will try the imtimidation option from now on to see how it works.
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Post by baurtregaum on Jun 7, 2018 18:55:51 GMT
I think Kieran Donaghy should have a role in Mun. final. Great leader, great hands. unselfish and can cause havoc in any defence. Midway through the first half of the 2018 league game Dublin decided to impose themselves on the young Kerry players and they did. The likes of Donaghy and Maher will need to be there to sort out that out. Kerrys opponents will try the imtimidation option from now on to see how it works. Exactly MM. Remember Jack Barry and Aidan O'Shea in last year's replay. I mean no slight against Jack, I have no doubt that he will grow to be a great midfielder in the green and gold but O'Shea is a cute opetator and he imposed himself on the rookie. We need a blend of youth and experience going down the home straight.
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Post by augustafield on Jun 7, 2018 20:21:57 GMT
I absolutely agree with Mickmac 100 per cent . Shocked by Kerrys flying start in the League game the Dubs decided to put manners on our youngsters culminating in Sean O Shea leavung the field because of injury . This is what they have to expect from here on and we dont have ‘ enforcers ‘ a la McMahon , Cooper , MDMA , OSullivan , O Gara , and Kilkenny . Clare asked our forwards no questions - anybody else we meet will be sure to do so . Great start to the campaign last Sunday - we know we have the players but its our Management and their record that worries me . Of course I hope I’m wrong but when the going has got tough in the past the Management failed us .
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Post by Hicser on Jun 7, 2018 21:18:47 GMT
I absolutely agree with Mickmac 100 per cent . Shocked by Kerrys flying start in the League game the Dubs decided to put manners on our youngsters culminating in Sean O Shea leavung the field because of injury . This is what they have to expect from here on and we dont have ‘ enforcers ‘ a la McMahon , Cooper , MDMA , OSullivan , O Gara , and Kilkenny . Clare asked our forwards no questions - anybody else we meet will be sure to do so . Great start to the campaign last Sunday - we know we have the players but its our Management and their record that worries me . Of course I hope I’m wrong but when the going has got tough in the past the Management failed us . Totally agree, replay last year was not players fault, I hope the management have evolved like the players,
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Post by kerrygold on Jun 11, 2018 10:06:54 GMT
I see the the u17 game is down to start 2.5 hours before the senior final. This time span will be a big test of the pulling power of u17 fooball in terms of spectators turning up.............
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Post by Annascaultilidie on Jun 11, 2018 10:22:20 GMT
I was going to watch the match in the pub with a couple of pints but the excitement has me and I got tix for the City Terrace there.
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Post by Jigz84 on Jun 11, 2018 10:46:38 GMT
I see the the u17 game is down to start 2.5 hours before the senior final. This time span will be a big test of the pulling power of u17 fooball in terms of spectators turning up............. So the Minor Final will be over around 5:50pm. I hope they've some entertainment lined up to kill the time!
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Post by glengael on Jun 11, 2018 11:00:37 GMT
I see the the u17 game is down to start 2.5 hours before the senior final. This time span will be a big test of the pulling power of u17 fooball in terms of spectators turning up............. To be fair I think the numbers coming early have increased with the success of the minors since 2014. The unpleasant prospect of competing with the Mahon Point shopping/cinema traffic might encourage people to come early, even for the 2nd half of U-17 game. Cork Co Board really missed a trick in not developing transport links to PUC to make it a more attractive venue and entice people to leave their cars and not expect to drive to and from the door. You can choose to walk all the way from Croke Park to Heuston (and I have) but if you change your mind, at least you have options like heading towards Connolly for Luas or taxi's , Drumcondra for suburban rail, one of the new Luas stops or getting a bus at O'Connell Bridge. You don't really have that option if you change your mind on the walk back into Cork city Centre.
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Post by Mickmack on Jun 11, 2018 11:09:00 GMT
I see the the u17 game is down to start 2.5 hours before the senior final. This time span will be a big test of the pulling power of u17 fooball in terms of spectators turning up............. Is there a match between the u17 and the senior gane
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Post by Mickmack on Jun 11, 2018 11:09:15 GMT
I see the the u17 game is down to start 2.5 hours before the senior final. This time span will be a big test of the pulling power of u17 fooball in terms of spectators turning up............. Is there a match between the u17 and the senior games
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Post by southward on Jun 11, 2018 11:30:37 GMT
I see the the u17 game is down to start 2.5 hours before the senior final. This time span will be a big test of the pulling power of u17 fooball in terms of spectators turning up............. Is there a match between the u17 and the senior games Wouldn't be time. There were calls for the ladies' final to be on the bill also but I don't think that's happening. No way you'd get the crowd in for them all anyway; three games with warm-up time in between would mean 5/6 hours inside; that's an awful long time to be sitting/standing around.
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Post by kerrygold on Jun 11, 2018 11:39:23 GMT
Is the minor final down for extra time in the event of a draw?
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Post by kerrygold on Jun 11, 2018 11:39:59 GMT
I see the the u17 game is down to start 2.5 hours before the senior final. This time span will be a big test of the pulling power of u17 fooball in terms of spectators turning up............. Is there a match between the u17 and the senior games No
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Post by oldschool on Jun 11, 2018 13:51:46 GMT
Any thoughts on point kicking technique??? Do we have to send the ball to the clouds? Do we have to screw/ spin the ball? While these techniques have their merits at times they are being overused. These while looking classy are unnecessary. Watching Dublin yesterday most points were taken by kicking directly and with a low trajectory. Some nice points from edge of large square. Any thoughts??
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Post by kerryexile on Jun 11, 2018 14:28:58 GMT
Any thoughts on point kicking technique??? Do we have to send the ball to the clouds? Do we have to screw/ spin the ball? While these techniques have their merits at times they are being overused. These while looking classy are unnecessary. Watching Dublin yesterday most points were taken by kicking directly and with a low trajectory. Some nice points from edge of large square. Any thoughts?? I have been saying the same thing though not on this forum. Years ago players were encouraged to keep it low and put it 3 or 4 feet over the bar. The yhinking was that cross winds in a stadium like Croke Park could effect the ball. Some kicks now go 20 feet over the top of the post.
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Post by southward on Jun 11, 2018 16:13:12 GMT
Any thoughts on point kicking technique??? Do we have to send the ball to the clouds? Do we have to screw/ spin the ball? While these techniques have their merits at times they are being overused. These while looking classy are unnecessary. Watching Dublin yesterday most points were taken by kicking directly and with a low trajectory. Some nice points from edge of large square. Any thoughts?? Completely agree; it's been a bugbear of mine for years. Seems to be just a stylistic habit with fellas these days. Unless there's a big man directly in front, you're only giving a hostage to the wind by putting the ball into orbit. A lot of point chances get wasted this way. JOD tried to blast a straightforward one into Rathmore the last day, ended up hitting the post. Keep it simple lads.
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