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Post by Chinatown on Nov 21, 2015 16:45:04 GMT
Hi lads, I'm new on here, can't set up a new thread so I said I'd hijack this one, apologies in advance. Basically I'm looking for a few suggestions for managers / coaches who could take over a senior team. We would need someone who could manage and train. Our club would be willing to pay fairly generous 'expenses'. Any suggestions? Is there a bounty scheme for referrals, tis nearly Christmas and all .....
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Post by veteran on Nov 21, 2015 17:04:44 GMT
I read recently that, at last, the GAA may have identified the terminal blight that has throttled the game of football. Believe it or believe it not there are proposals to tackle the cancer of the handpass in the new year. It is suggested that an experiment of limiting the handpass to three in any one movement be introduced on a trial basis in lesser competitions. Can it be that the authorities have been heeding what this fossil has been preaching since making my debut here!! In any case, dare I hope that in the near future the art of kicking a football may be restored , to some degree at least.
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Post by woody123 on Nov 21, 2015 18:42:55 GMT
Hi lads, I'm new on here, can't set up a new thread so I said I'd hijack this one, apologies in advance. Basically I'm looking for a few suggestions for managers / coaches who could take over a senior team. We would need someone who could manage and train. Our club would be willing to pay fairly generous 'expenses'. Any suggestions? Is there a bounty scheme for referrals, tis nearly Christmas and all ..... Well if you can set it up, I'm sure you could claim your 15%! Right, I'm going to throw a few names out there lads, let me know what ye think: Harry O'Neill Declan O'Keefe Seamus Moynihan Maybe a recently retired player like Johnny Crowley, Liam Hassett or Mike Quirke?
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Post by woody123 on Nov 22, 2015 21:49:56 GMT
Could I get the above post approved? Thanks
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Post by veteran on Nov 29, 2015 17:36:14 GMT
Listowel 1-11 Casleisland 0-7 HT 1-5 0-3
This game had scarcely started when Casleisland sustained a crippling blow . Thomas went low to collect a ball and injured himself and had to replaced . Apart from the loss to his team it was hugely disappointing to the neutral to be denied the chance to see an ace forward at work. It was unlikely that Castleisland could withstand the loss of young Hickey and they didn't.
Listowel dominated the first half and were leading four points to two when the second decisive incident of the match took place. The lively Cormac Mulvihill, he scored two points, send in a high ball which looked as if it might go over but dropped short and Brendan Flavin got a fist to it and the green flag was hoisted . Another body blow for the visitors.
Casleisland improved in the second half and were threatening to make a game of it. This view was reinforced Pa Hickey danced through and earned a penalty when he was upscuttled . Unfortunately, his kick resulted in a point rather than a goal . The third decisive incident of the game. Later , they managed to mount another potentially dangerous attack. The ball bobbed about in the Listowel square with legs flailing at it but it was a Listowel leg which " flailed " it to safety. That was about the size of it. There was no doubting the worthiness of the winners.
I was hugely impressed by Kerry minor panellist, underage again next year I believe, Niall Collins at wingback for Listowel. He was fully of dash and purpose. Fellow Kerry minor colleague , Bryan Sweeney , was less prominent. Jack McGuire and Ger McCarthy were very impressive in that back line also. David. Sheehy and Brendan Flavin shone in the attack but it was Conor Cox who lifted Listowel to a superior level. He scored five from play and three from frees. All those points from play were spectacular efforts. With the unlucky Thomas Hickey in the dug out, Castleisland had nobody to challenge that extravaganza.
A disappointing feature of today's programme was that only the initial of the first name of the Castleisland players was listed. Worse than that, number sixteen, one of their best players , had no name attached to the number! B. Lynch and M. Hickey were very good in defence . P. Fitzgerald worked hard at midfield. S. Lynch and T. Lynch were best in attack. The latter scored three points and was one of their best performers. P. Hickey threatened more than he achieved and that penalty miss was costly. G.McCarthy scored three from frees.
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Post by Mickmack on Dec 13, 2015 13:13:15 GMT
Am i the only one who finds Conor McGregor and his "sport" ugly and distasteful!
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Post by Mickmack on Dec 13, 2015 13:19:17 GMT
Former Cork boss says inter-county football is now 'sickening to watch'
Club game showing up county scene, says former Cork and Kildare hero
Martin Brehney
10/12/2015 | 02:30
Larry Tompkins believes there is a growing level of dissatisfaction with inter-county football compared to club games like Portlaoise against Ballyboden1
Larry Tompkins has described much of modern-day inter-county football as "sickening to watch", while also rapidly eroding the skills of the game.
The All-Ireland winning former Cork captain, who made his senior inter-county debut with his native Kildare at the age of 16, says that even Kerry and Dublin - renowned for their sense of adventure - have been sucked into a defensive approach. "Maybe not all the time, but we saw it in the All-Ireland final. When you see Kerry doing it, you know things have changed. Dublin got caught with a few sucker punches against Donegal last year, so they changed their approach too. Both felt it was they way they had to go," said Tompkins.
He gauges the wider public mood among the customers watching games in his pub on Cork's Lavitt's Quay and has found a growing sense of disenchantment. "Compare most of the county games we saw this year with last Sunday's Ballyboden-Portlaoise Leinster club final, or the Corofin-Castlebar Connacht final a few weeks ago.
"The club games were great to watch. It was mostly football as it should be played, as opposed to the county game, which has squeezed out a lot of the skills," he said. Tompkins believes that a few simple changes would make a significant difference, including kick-outs having to pass the 45-metre line, a ban on back-passing to the goalkeeper, and insisting that only frees kicked off the ground can yield scores. He would also ban goalkeepers from taking scoreable frees.
"What does it say about where the game has gone when goalkeepers are used for long-range scoring attempts from frees? Why can't outfield players kick the ball properly off the ground? "If all attempts for scores from frees had to be taken off the ground - as used to be the case - outfield players would work on it and there would be no need to call up goalkeepers," he said.
Consideration Requiring kick-outs to pass the 45-metre line and allowing a player who makes a high catch to call a 'mark' is back under consideration, and Tompkins believes it should be introduced immediately.
"The benefits are obvious. People were saying it worked great in the International Rules game a few weeks ago. You wouldn't need to be a genius to know that it would be the same in our own game," he said, "As for banning passing back to the goalkeeper, it might look like a small thing but it would have a real impact."
Tompkins, who managed Cork for seven years after his playing days, is not enamoured with the proposal to scrap the All-Ireland U-21 championship, questioning why it's necessary. "The U-21 is run off quickly before the senior starts. It's a good competition in its own right and is a great way of finding out if a player has the potential to make the senior grade."
He does not accept the argument that players are suffering from burnout, arising from college and U-21 games early in the year. "If there's damage being done, it's not caused by the games but by the training. In that case, the answer is simple: cut back on training. There's too much collective training going on anyway."
Tompkins has wide experience of the demands imposed on talented youngsters from his days with Kildare, having played minor, U-21 and senior for two years, and then U-21 and senior for five years.
"Lads want to play games, whatever the competition. So if there's a problem with burnout, don't drop the competition, curb the training," he said. Tompkins accepts that club players are frustrated by the haphazard nature of the fixtures schedule but believes it could be addressed quite easily.
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"You have clubs playing one championship game in April and then waiting maybe three of four months for the next one. I'd scrap the back door in county championships. But if you do that, the league needs to be made more relevant to the championship. "That could be done by running the club leagues off before the championship and seeding teams for the draw, according to where they finished in the league. Then have a straight knock-out championship, which would be much easier to run," he said.
He queries why counties make championship draws in December/January and believes that if the leagues were used to decide seeding for the premier competition, it would be a boost for the club scene.
"Why is there a need for a club to know who they are playing in the championship until a week or two before the game? I'm convinced that it wouldn't take that much to improve the lot of club players if everyone put their minds to it," he said. He supports Paraic Duffy's proposal to limit county squad sizes for Allianz League games so as to have more players available for club duty. However, he says it doesn't go far enough (Duffy wants it restricted to 26).
"Why not 22? Only six subs can be brought on so even with 22, one player has no chance of getting a run. You can have anything up to 30 players travelling for league games and nine of them can't get a game. It makes no sense, when they could instead play for their club that weekend," he said.
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Post by Mickmack on Dec 13, 2015 13:22:08 GMT
All of Larrys suggestions have the benefit of being easy to enforce.
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Post by veteran on Dec 13, 2015 13:28:33 GMT
Am i the only one who finds Conor McGregor and his "sport" ugly and distasteful! That makes two of us. It is unadulterated cave man behaviour masquerading as sport.
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Post by Ballyfireside on Dec 13, 2015 20:40:41 GMT
I thought McGregor's opponent slipped, ah it is pathetic but sure each to their own, way beyond below Veteran's radar!
Tompkin's suggestions are pipedream stuff, couldn't be refereed. With respect a lot of guys who played come up with dream suggestions that couldn't be managed operationally, like jockeys talking about racing, jockeys' tips would break a gambler quicker than he could manage it on his own.
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Post by kerryexile on Dec 18, 2015 11:14:53 GMT
O'Neill salutes Donaghy return as O'Sullivan retires Former Kerry coach/selector Cian O'Neill is "delighted" that Kieran Donaghy looks set to extend his Kingdom career in 2016. Donaghy's return to form turned Kerry's 2014 season on its head with the towering full-forward capping off a magnificent comeback with the all-important goal in their All-Ireland final win over Donegal.
As captain this season, Donaghy struggled to nail down a starting berth and doubts remained about his future in the green and gold before he expressed his wish to stay on Radio Kerry on Monday night.
O'Neill believes the 32-year-old still has a lot to offer at inter-county level. "Kieran gives so much, in so many ways," he said. "People see him on the pitch and he's a larger-than-life character, but he's a great character off the pitch and he's good in the dressing-room.
"He has a great cerebral influence on a game. Obviously, his basketball background and skill-set comes in there. I took responsibility for Kerry's forward play and he always had great ideas and things to say about the game." Having worked with Donaghy for three years, the current Kildare boss feels that the Austin Stacks attacker can still play a pivotal role if he can stay injury-free.
"I think it would have been a huge loss for the squad and for Eamonn and the management if he did step down," he said. "He has lots to offer. Like everyone at that stage of their career, it's keeping him injury-free, keeping him healthy and the conditioning will come over time."
Meanwhile, former double All-Ireland-winning captain Declan O'Sullivan has announced his retirement from club football following surgery on a problematic knee injury.
O'Sullivan said: "After my operation sadly my football journey is over. Thank you to Dromid Pearses, South Kerry and Kerry, it's been an honour."
In 2007, O'Sullivan became the first man to lift Sam Maguire twice since Dublin's Tony Hanahoe and the three-time All-Star was often credited as the man who made the illustrious Kerry forward line tick.
The 31-year-old had limited involvement with Dromid Pearses this year but he still played a key role off the bench as South Kerry, his divisional side, ensured a fitting career finale with a county final win over Legion last month.
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“ ….I took responsibility for Kerry's forward play …” Not “I was given responsibility” .
I always had questions about O’Neill’s attitude. I heard that Liam Sheedy had to put him in his place a couple of times when he was involved with Tipp hurlers. Was it his decision that Colm Cooper would be foraging in the half back line?
It might also explain why many of the forwards had a fairly ordinary season.
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Post by Annascaultilidie on Dec 18, 2015 14:23:22 GMT
I always had questions about O’Neill’s attitude. When? I don't see it in any of your previous posts. It is easy to scapegoat after the fact but that isn't the Kerry way. How can we learn from this year? How can we get better?
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Post by ballynamona on Dec 18, 2015 15:08:21 GMT
No need to scapegoat O'Neill. Extra Time in Limerick 2014 showed his worth. I am uncomfortable with the idea of excusing the natives and blaming the Kildare man.
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Post by Attacking Wing Back on Dec 18, 2015 15:13:40 GMT
O'Neill salutes Donaghy return as O'Sullivan retires Former Kerry coach/selector Cian O'Neill is "delighted" that Kieran Donaghy looks set to extend his Kingdom career in 2016. Donaghy's return to form turned Kerry's 2014 season on its head with the towering full-forward capping off a magnificent comeback with the all-important goal in their All-Ireland final win over Donegal.
As captain this season, Donaghy struggled to nail down a starting berth and doubts remained about his future in the green and gold before he expressed his wish to stay on Radio Kerry on Monday night.
O'Neill believes the 32-year-old still has a lot to offer at inter-county level. "Kieran gives so much, in so many ways," he said. "People see him on the pitch and he's a larger-than-life character, but he's a great character off the pitch and he's good in the dressing-room.
"He has a great cerebral influence on a game. Obviously, his basketball background and skill-set comes in there. I took responsibility for Kerry's forward play and he always had great ideas and things to say about the game." Having worked with Donaghy for three years, the current Kildare boss feels that the Austin Stacks attacker can still play a pivotal role if he can stay injury-free.
"I think it would have been a huge loss for the squad and for Eamonn and the management if he did step down," he said. "He has lots to offer. Like everyone at that stage of their career, it's keeping him injury-free, keeping him healthy and the conditioning will come over time."
Meanwhile, former double All-Ireland-winning captain Declan O'Sullivan has announced his retirement from club football following surgery on a problematic knee injury.
O'Sullivan said: "After my operation sadly my football journey is over. Thank you to Dromid Pearses, South Kerry and Kerry, it's been an honour."
In 2007, O'Sullivan became the first man to lift Sam Maguire twice since Dublin's Tony Hanahoe and the three-time All-Star was often credited as the man who made the illustrious Kerry forward line tick.
The 31-year-old had limited involvement with Dromid Pearses this year but he still played a key role off the bench as South Kerry, his divisional side, ensured a fitting career finale with a county final win over Legion last month.
Irish Independent
“ ….I took responsibility for Kerry's forward play …” Not “I was given responsibility” .
I always had questions about O’Neill’s attitude. I heard that Liam Sheedy had to put him in his place a couple of times when he was involved with Tipp hurlers. Was it his decision that Colm Cooper would be foraging in the half back line?
It might also explain why many of the forwards had a fairly ordinary season.
Saw that article myself. Was wondering the same thing. But, more along the lines as why isn't Mikey Sheehy taking the forwards? I mean Diarmuid and Eamonn were a centre back and a goalkeeper respectively. I dont know what level Cian O'Neill played at but, surely it would make more sense for Mikey to take the forwards. Similar to Declan coming in to coach the kerry minor forwards this year. Then again I dont know if Jack O'Connor or paidi had a dedicated forwards coach either as it were
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Post by lár na páirce on Dec 18, 2015 15:52:08 GMT
No need to scapegoat O'Neill. Extra Time in Limerick 2014 showed his worth. I think this is the biggest myth in modern GAA,No doubt Kerry played super that day and it is one of my favorite all time Kerry games but this notion that we were had a far superior level of fitness is nonsense.We must remember that a missed free from Mayo brought us to extra time that day,Mayo's two best players were playing with concussion,They had a novice full back on,We were awarded two generous free's that we scored from,All of our scores from play in extra time came from fresh men off the bench and we won by a kick of a ball in the end.That game was more about attitude,hunger and a stronger bench as much as fitness,no doubt Cian O Neill had us in great shape but no greater than Mayo that day or Donegal in the final.
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Post by kerrygold on Dec 18, 2015 19:43:01 GMT
I'm looking forward to seeing the metamorphosis in what has been a generational approach to forward play in Kildare.
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Post by Annascaultilidie on Dec 19, 2015 2:00:17 GMT
No need to scapegoat O'Neill. Extra Time in Limerick 2014 showed his worth. I think this is the biggest myth in modern GAA,No doubt Kerry played super that day and it is one of my favorite all time Kerry games but this notion that we were had a far superior level of fitness is nonsense.We must remember that a missed free from Mayo brought us to extra time that day,Mayo's two best players were playing with concussion,They had a novice full back on,We were awarded two generous free's that we scored from,All of our scores from play in extra time came from fresh men off the bench and we won by a kick of a ball in the end.That game was more about attitude,hunger and a stronger bench as much as fitness,no doubt Cian O Neill had us in great shape but no greater than Mayo that day or Donegal in the final. A lot of what you say is true but Mayo were out on their legs and Kerry were not.
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Post by wayupnorth on Dec 19, 2015 11:06:17 GMT
Some of our lads were off their feet as well. Aidan went down and couldn't get up again. The difference was as much in the will to win as in the conditioning. And don't forget which team Cian was training before he came to the Kingdom.
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Post by kerrygold on Dec 28, 2015 10:20:59 GMT
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Post by peanuts on Dec 28, 2015 10:35:37 GMT
Some of our lads were off their feet as well. Aidan went down and couldn't get up again. The difference was as much in the will to win as in the conditioning. And don't forget which team Cian was training before he came to the Kingdom. Cian O'Neill wasn't the physical trainer in Mayo. He was a coach and selector.
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Post by fitz on Dec 28, 2015 11:13:23 GMT
Am i the only one who finds Conor McGregor and his "sport" ugly and distasteful! That makes two of us. It is unadulterated cave man behaviour masquerading as sport. I think some of McGregor's behaviour crosses the line. Lifting Champions belt in front of a load of foul mouthed yobs in Croke Park press conference was beyond disgraceful. However, McGregor is a supremely conditioned athlete, a great fighter, a brilliant business man and and now a World Champion and very wealthy man. I'm no expert from a participation perspective, but this is a very highly skilled sport. I watch a lot of it, and admittedly some bouts can be brutal, disturbing in fact, to be able to master wrestling, boxing, kick boxing, Jujitsu, develop huge cardio fitness, incredible flexibility, and accurate striking and of course be able to take punishment shows these men and women to be athletes that can hold their own compared with any other sport. It is very strictly refereed, and if a competitor cannot defend himself, it s stopped immediately. It is not for everyone, but in my view it is far from caveman combat. If one acknowledges boxing as a sport then this is most certainly a sport. If one dislikes all striking combat sports, that is ones prerogative also. If ones opinion is based on understanding all disciplines involved and still find it disgusting, fair enough, again it is extremely violent, but I think the caveman comment is very harsh and inaccurate. McGregor's comment regarding the 13 seconds to the naked eye represented a lifetime of work to get there is what is unseen to many people voicing their views. He and some of his teammates were sharing rooms, sleeping on floors as they made their way. Despite his antics, McGregor's achievement is an incredible feat and I admire him for that even though I was rooting for Aldo because of the disrespect he received in Dublin. McGregor's conditioning, movement, strength, balance, flexibility and skill is incredible, truly incredible.
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Post by kerrygold on Dec 28, 2015 11:21:35 GMT
There probably aren't too many McGegorites knocking around today after four days of Christmas!
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Post by Sons of Pitches on Dec 28, 2015 14:15:08 GMT
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Post by Mickmack on Dec 28, 2015 14:46:16 GMT
That makes two of us. It is unadulterated cave man behaviour masquerading as sport. I think some of McGregor's behaviour crosses the line. Lifting Champions belt in front of a load of foul mouthed yobs in Croke Park press conference was beyond disgraceful. However, McGregor is a supremely conditioned athlete, a great fighter, a brilliant business man and and now a World Champion and very wealthy man. I'm no expert from a participation perspective, but this is a very highly skilled sport. I watch a lot of it, and admittedly some bouts can be brutal, disturbing in fact, to be able to master wrestling, boxing, kick boxing, Jujitsu, develop huge cardio fitness, incredible flexibility, and accurate striking and of course be able to take punishment shows these men and women to be athletes that can hold their own compared with any other sport. It is very strictly refereed, and if a competitor cannot defend himself, it s stopped immediately. It is not for everyone, but in my view it is far from caveman combat. If one acknowledges boxing as a sport then this is most certainly a sport. If one dislikes all striking combat sports, that is ones prerogative also. If ones opinion is based on understanding all disciplines involved and still find it disgusting, fair enough, again it is extremely violent, but I think the caveman comment is very harsh and inaccurate. McGregor's comment regarding the 13 seconds to the naked eye represented a lifetime of work to get there is what is unseen to many people voicing their views. He and some of his teammates were sharing rooms, sleeping on floors as they made their way. Despite his antics, McGregor's achievement is an incredible feat and I admire him for that even though I was rooting for Aldo because of the disrespect he received in Dublin. McGregor's conditioning, movement, strength, balance, flexibility and skill is incredible, truly incredible. In the 15 seconds of his latest fight both fighers left themselves wide open to haymakers. Both haymakers connected but McGregors reached its defenceless target first. Surely defending yourself should be part of this sport. You would see better self defence in your average brawl outside a chipper in most towns on a Saturday night.
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Post by fitz on Dec 28, 2015 19:04:24 GMT
I think some of McGregor's behaviour crosses the line. Lifting Champions belt in front of a load of foul mouthed yobs in Croke Park press conference was beyond disgraceful. However, McGregor is a supremely conditioned athlete, a great fighter, a brilliant business man and and now a World Champion and very wealthy man. I'm no expert from a participation perspective, but this is a very highly skilled sport. I watch a lot of it, and admittedly some bouts can be brutal, disturbing in fact, to be able to master wrestling, boxing, kick boxing, Jujitsu, develop huge cardio fitness, incredible flexibility, and accurate striking and of course be able to take punishment shows these men and women to be athletes that can hold their own compared with any other sport. It is very strictly refereed, and if a competitor cannot defend himself, it s stopped immediately. It is not for everyone, but in my view it is far from caveman combat. If one acknowledges boxing as a sport then this is most certainly a sport. If one dislikes all striking combat sports, that is ones prerogative also. If ones opinion is based on understanding all disciplines involved and still find it disgusting, fair enough, again it is extremely violent, but I think the caveman comment is very harsh and inaccurate. McGregor's comment regarding the 13 seconds to the naked eye represented a lifetime of work to get there is what is unseen to many people voicing their views. He and some of his teammates were sharing rooms, sleeping on floors as they made their way. Despite his antics, McGregor's achievement is an incredible feat and I admire him for that even though I was rooting for Aldo because of the disrespect he received in Dublin. McGregor's conditioning, movement, strength, balance, flexibility and skill is incredible, truly incredible. In the 15 seconds of his latest fight both fighers left themselves wide open to haymakers. Both haymakers connected but McGregors reached its defenceless target first. Surely defending yourself should be part of this sport. You would see better self defence in your average brawl outside a chipper in most towns on a Saturday night. You can't throw a punch without being exposed to risk. It was a perfect storm punch. McGregor is fighting over 20lbs above the belt weight. You may have seen him at weigh in on Fri night. He looked a starved creature. 20lbs all put back on within 24 hours. The points being, 1) McGregor has a granite left and is too big for featherweight. Another discussion, weigh ins are joke. 2) Aldo in his own attempted attack drove his own momentum straight into Conor's left. He was knocked out instantly. It was so early in the fight, ruined contest. Aldo hadn't lost a fight in 10 years, so he won't be sweating the average drunk chippy rowdie, although I have yo believe your comment is tongue-in-cheek Mick being a seasoned poster.
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Post by veteran on Dec 28, 2015 21:56:45 GMT
A long time ago men lived in caves. Quite commonly they picked up a cudgel and cracked the skull of an adversary, real or imaginary. They knew no better.
We now know, encased in that skull, is very precious , poorly understood organ . It is encased in that bony structure for a very good reason. It is extremely fragile and very difficult, impossible in most instances , to repair. Hence, civilised people do not set out to deliberately impair its function. Present day cavemen ignore that injunction.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 28, 2015 22:23:38 GMT
You could make an argument for banning all contact sport in this case.
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Post by Ballyfireside on Dec 28, 2015 23:13:21 GMT
I have heard all this before and as a youngster I watched TV programmes on the evils of rugby and boxing, and the doctors who were leading the argument put me off these sports. We were then told that soccer was just as dangerous, with neck injuries, although I don't know how true this is. The same could be said of horse racing as the animals don't have a choice, but if they had they would run all day long.
So do we stay in bed and avoid all these injuries?
Hurling looks crazy to the outside world yet it is probably the best game known to mankind, especially Irish mankind.
Personally I wouldn't be a lover of whatever game it is that McGregor plays and some of that boxing ring like stuff on TV looks so so sad. But each to their own and I don't have to be part of it.
The irony of the aforementioned rugby programmes is that more doctors play rugby than many other games.
I think that in looking for an answer we assume that there is a right answer that will satisfy everyone, and as rational as all that is, there isn't such an answer on these sports, and as there isn't on many major issues in society. My view is if it doesn't affect me and it isn't cruel, then it doesn't bother me what others do as a sport. They obviously know something I don't and good luck to them if they enjoy it.
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Post by fitz on Dec 28, 2015 23:13:45 GMT
A long time ago men lived in caves. Quite commonly they picked up a cudgel and cracked the skull of an adversary, real or imaginary. They knew no better. We now know, encased in that skull, is very precious , poorly understood organ . It is encased in that bony structure for a very good reason. It is extremely fragile and very difficult, impossible in most instances , to repair. Hence, civilised people do not set out to deliberately impair its function. Present day cavemen ignore that injunction. Not sure where you're going with this point. Is it that MMA(Mixed Martial Arts) is only for the uncivilized?
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Post by veteran on Dec 29, 2015 16:45:21 GMT
I have heard all this before and as a youngster I watched TV programmes on the evils of rugby and boxing, and the doctors who were leading the argument put me off these sports. We were then told that soccer was just as dangerous, with neck injuries, although I don't know how true this is. The same could be said of horse racing as the animals don't have a choice, but if they had they would run all day long. So do we stay in bed and avoid all these injuries? Hurling looks crazy to the outside world yet it is probably the best game known to mankind, especially Irish mankind. Personally I wouldn't be a lover of whatever game it is that McGregor plays and some of that boxing ring like stuff on TV looks so so sad. But each to their own and I don't have to be part of it. The irony of the aforementioned rugby programmes is that more doctors play rugby than many other games. I think that in looking for an answer we assume that there is a right answer that will satisfy everyone, and as rational as all that is, there isn't such an answer on these sports, and as there isn't on many major issues in society. My view is if it doesn't affect me and it isn't cruel, then it doesn't bother me what others do as a sport. They obviously know something I don't and good luck to them if they enjoy it. Ballythefireside, on the evidence of this post you dined well on red herrings over the festive period. You talk about the perceived dangers of soccer, rugby, horse racing , hurling. What have these sports got to do with the current discussion on the McGregor caper that masquerades as sport? You seem to miss my point, inadvertently or intentionally. The essence of my argument is that you dare not deliberately inflict damage on the human brain. I cannot see how I can make that point clearer. Perhaps, if you ruminate on that for a while you may see the absurdity of your referencing other field sports. Of course you may still conclude that it is still civilised to intentionally attack the human brain. We part company at that juncture. PS You may notice that jockeys and hurlers wear helmets even though no deliberate injury is contemplated. Have you ever wondered why? The boxing fraternity made the wearing of headgear mandatory up to recently. That rule has now been discarded, presumably because this "sport" was not gory enough.
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