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Post by misteallaigh abú on Aug 2, 2015 20:05:52 GMT
We played beautiful football today,at times and some of it was a pleasure to witness. Colm Cooper's movement off the ball,creating space for others,his vision,his passing was sublime. David Moran was imperious, Maher was brilliant,yet again. Stephen O Brien made hay when his man dropped off him to play sweeper. Kildare didn't pick him up and he made them pay. He kicked some nice scores on the run. I thought that Jameso got absolutely nothing from the referee as long as he was on the pitch, penalty decision aside. I felt that he was being pulled and dragged constantly, his marker, Ollie Lyons had hold of his arm or hand all through. Maybe Brolly's constant carping on RTE is affecting decisions made by referees? I thought that Bryan Sheehan found the open spaces in Croke Park too much,at times and in future,opponents may look to expose this. Tommy caught savage ball when he came on and delivered it well. It's probably a lack of pace that's keeping him out of the team? He certainly put his hand up today,as did Darran. Kildare were awful, they went 1 on 1 with Gooch inside! Apart from Eoin Doyle who fought valiantly,a lot of heads dropped and players went MIA. Not a good day for players or management. I'm not sure about the Donaghy injury. At half time,O Sullivan was interviewed on radio and he said that Donaghy picked up an injury last night during a kick around. Later on,Eamon said that he picked up the injury on Thursday evening. Am I reading too much into it? Anyway,we roll on again in 3 weeks time. It's great to be a kerry supporter,so much to look forward to every year!
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Post by shaggy04 on Aug 2, 2015 20:20:51 GMT
When did we last score 7 goals in Championship last? Milltown malbay massacre?
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Post by homerj on Aug 2, 2015 20:28:40 GMT
When did we last score 7 goals in Championship last? Milltown malbay massacre? Did we get 7 against Tipp in Tralee around 96???
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Post by haryegsnbaken on Aug 2, 2015 20:44:49 GMT
that Tommy Carr is sickening to listen to. O'Brien having a stormer. Inforthebreaks
He had a better day today surely/ Lol :-)
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Post by haryegsnbaken on Aug 2, 2015 21:16:55 GMT
I'm glad for Darran,that he got a run and did well,but feel a bit for M Geaney.He could have been brought on instead of Buckley. Bally I think it is Mikey or Stephen for the 10 shirt.
Maybe PG coming in instead was a bit of a ceist?
O Brien, Geaney, Galvin and Buckley all pushing for one shirt?
Tis tough Bud.
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Post by Jo90 on Aug 2, 2015 21:56:15 GMT
Milltown malbay massacre? Did we get 7 against Tipp in Tralee around 96??? 1995 7-12 to 1-13 Today was Kerry's 4th biggest c'ship win and biggest besides v Clare or Waterford. In this years Christy Ring Cup semi the score was Kerry 6-27 Kildare 0-9
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Post by Aodhan on Aug 3, 2015 0:53:49 GMT
The most delighting aspect of the game was the performance of all the subs along with the returned magic of the Gooch. Darren showed glimpses of 2011 immediately after being introduced. The fielding of Tommy Walsh allied now with what seemingly is a much improved distribution. Galvin can still give the perfect pass, The sharpness of Barry John, he is not rushing things any longer and has now become a far better team player. They are all fighting for first team places but none are playing as individuals, testimony of the continuing bond Fitz and Co have instilled in this team. What a bummer it must be for the opposition to see the introduction of such players, equal if not better than those being replaced. Crowley and Buckley and of course Donaghy will also have a big say if we are to retain Sam.
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Post by kerry4life on Aug 3, 2015 1:15:08 GMT
It must be Kerry's biggest win in such an important game being a last 8 game. It could possibly be their biggest ever in Croke Park. Setting that aside Kerry players and management won't get too far ahead of themselves but will be extremely satisfied with some of the training ground moves that worked so well.
I am delighted with the defense they were shakey all year conceding the highest score in division 1 along with conceding a couple of goals v Tipp and some very soft goals v Cork. But the replay v Cork and especially today showed they are beginning to settle and look much more mobile especially on the break but more importantly they are looking more solid up the centre. Crowley's form of last year has being a huge loss and Kerry struggled without his form earlier in the year but are beginning to cope a bit better now. Saying that bigger tests ahead for sure so I am still hopeful Crowley will regain form and have a part to play when needed. If we get Monaghan than we will need big guys up the centre in all areas of the pitch. So he may have a part to play their.
I must admit looking at the bench I thought Darren wouldn't make a difference as an impact sub this year and I was annoyed with him v Cork on Day 1 when he tried to chip an incoming ball into his hands at a crucial point of the game instead of bending his back and lost it but today he showed that he still has a lot to offer Kerry this year. He looked very sharp and unselfish off loading to players in space. In the past he had a habit of letting fly near goal which often worked but today he was composed and very clinical in front of goal. The rumors about how hard his training must be true, it has being said he quit or took a break from his job to concentrate on training this year, well what ever his is doing is working and he must be going well in training to get a nod over many other classy subs at that stage of the game. Obviously he wont get that space V Monaghan/Tyrone but springing him off the bench with 25 Min's to go will make any defense very nervy after watching him today and if he gets a couple of possessions while on the run he could well generate a few more big scores this year.
Moran and Maher played well, I actually think Maher plays much better with Moran, he can struggle at times with other partners but himself and Moran seem to have a good partnership. Maher finds himself in scoring positions regularly which is good but he lacks a little composure for taking the score. He does kick scores from time to time but sometimes he kicks many wides from 40 plus yards which maybe should be delivered to inside men, easier said than done I suppose not a big deal at the moment but I would certainly like to see him have a higher % scoring rate or deliver to forwards that are more accurate, we are very lucky in that sense and have plenty of them. Moran is looking like Kerry's answer to who will fill Daragh's booths. Still many more big performances needed to earn that title but over the last 2 years his going the right way about it.
What can you say about the forwards. Brilliant, the movement off the ball was class and the outside kickers had space to kick it into 80-90% of the time. Stevan O Brien destroyed them and it was Kildare's first of many errors today to let him have so much space along with being unmarked for periods of the game. It was said they didn't think he would be a big threat but to beat of the competition of the sub bench and earn a starting place one would think he would be a huge threat. JOD was brilliant for the time spent on the pitch even though he was being dragged and pulled all over he still won ball and kicked scores and took them all on for goal chance where is was very unlucky but great work by Kildare goalie. Cooper showed today he is back and 2-3 is some tally. He is so dangerous inside and on the 40 he can split defenses with pin point accurate foot passes like he did V Cork on last outing for the goal and again set up BJK goal today with a great pass to Donnaca Walsh. His 2nd goal today was like some many he scored over the years catching ball in front of the square and sticking it in the back of the net. Kerry people get immense pleasure out of watching that man scoring goals. BJK was also top class when he came on scoring 1-3 and winning a lot of ball, he has contributed a lot this year to Kerry and has done very little wrong. He is unlucky he has not started the last 2 games but still his getting on with it and he is getting game time and doing more than his bit and looks like he has plenty more to offer this year. I was also praying Tommy Walsh would get enough game time to see where his at and he did very well winning a few nice balls, his brilliant at winning his own ball and in 09 final V Cork scored 4 points from play and 2 of them were late on when the game was in the melting pot. Tommy is another man that could have a lot to offer in this championship and he can be played in a few positions.
We have seen some master class performances through the years Dublin in 09, 04 & 06 hammering of Mayo and 07 hammering of Cork along with the epic battles with Armagh especially the replay in 00 which was in my opinion Seamus Moynihan best ever Kerry performance but today was simply awesome. They were extremely ruthless and in so many games in the past they would generate 7-8 point leads and fall asleep and often struggled to close out many games which cost them big on occasions. Today they played for 70 Min's and when they were 20 points up and lost ball they played like a team that were down a few points and recovered and turned over ball until the final whistle. I know Kildare were poor but the point I am trying to make is Kerry were hungry and worked hard and looked very focused. Being able to finish teams off is vital and Kerry can now do it with such a strong bench.
Many people say this game was no good to Kerry I disagree. Before today their was a lot of questions about where Kerry were especially after Kildare beating Cork easily. We were expecting big things after last year and it was not happening. We were unsure if Gouch was going to be back to his usual brilliant self. We were wondering if Tommy Walsh would be able to make a difference. Their was big doubts regarding the defense. Once again I know Kildare were very poor but some of these questions were answered. Yes they have work to do and were sloppy at times kicking away ball and were wasteful. They wont have it that handy any more this year but we should be very happy because after today it showed we are back in the form needed to go on and win Sam. I know we cant look too much into the win but Kerry can take many positives out of this game. The fact that there is so much competition for places will get rid of the complacent factor.
Fingers crossed the J.O.D scan on his shoulder wont show too much damage because Kerry need last years footballer of the year to be at their very best and guaranteed their will be times later in the year where they will need to be at their very best and need the likes of J.O.D. But for now we can take comfort to know that Kerry are regaining form and heading in the right direction.
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Post by wayupnorth on Aug 3, 2015 6:39:57 GMT
I don't think we have ever scored 7 goals in one half before but I'm open to correction.
Great day out for Kerry supporters and confusion to the begrudgers!
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Post by royalkerryfan on Aug 3, 2015 8:32:49 GMT
Excellent performance yesterday but Kildare were just awful.
Moran really is the the number 1 midfielder in Ireland.
O'Brien for me was man of the match.
Great to see the impact off the bench.
Finally that game will give Colm plenty of confidence in the knee, he took a bang and my heart was in my mouth but thankfully he was ok.
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Post by Mickmack on Aug 3, 2015 8:38:26 GMT
It was sort of interesting till the six subs made a complete mockery of it as a "game". The sooner they cut back the number of subs to 3 the better.
I didn't derive much joy from this.
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Post by veteran on Aug 3, 2015 9:03:37 GMT
I was as happy as any other Kerryman coming away from Croke Park yesterday but ,on cold analysis, I would describe the second half as a farce. To concede seven goals in thirty five minutes of play would be an outrage even in hurling. It is hard to accept that a county, so consumed by a love for football, would defend so naively and therefore one has to point the finger at management. Jason Ryan talks the good talk but this performance leaves an indelible blot on his CV. Of course, before the year is out Kerry may confirm themselves to be as excellent as they appeared yesterday but the jury can only adjudicate on that when they have kicked their final championship ball in 2015. In the meantime, it is difficult to enthuse about the task of reporting on the match but, in the interests of Kerry people all over the globe who engage with this forum, I will make some effort.
The first inkling that I got that KD may not be playing was when David Moran led the team out on the field. Apparently, he strained his groin during the week. That is a potentially serious injury and in the circumstances it was prudent not to bring him on as a substitute either. The first half was a very lively and open, and indeed Kildare seemed to be gaining as much possession as Kerry. There was a crucial difference however. Kerry created space repeatedly with some productive kick passing and when that is allied to busy, smart, skillful forwards the scores will flow. Ten points in all, nine from play. On the other hand, by the time Kildare reached the Kerry forty five they were confronted by a Kerry defence giving their best collective display of the year. They managed three points, two beauties from Nial Kelly. That was as good as it got for Nial, so effective against Cork, thereafter he was smothered by the Rathmore limpet, Paul Murphy, and was eventually replaced.
There is no denying some of the scores by Kerry in that opening half were delightful. The first among equals here was Stephen O'Brien. If anybody takes any notice of this curmudgeon ,they may have noticed that I am an admirer. His poorest display was against Cork in the drawn game but he has given many fine displays over the past year or so. I often bemoaned the fact that his industry was rarely rewarded on the scoreboard but yesterday that deficit was rectified, scoring 1-4. It appeared that Kildare did not regard him as a scoring threat and paid the price, and remember those four points were garnered in the first half when the game was competitive. I am delighted for Stephen but of course the secret is out now!
Paul Geaney scored two cracking points in that half but it was apparent from the off that the ball was not bouncing for him. Every player has days like those, even the greatest. For example there was one instance in that half when he had the wit and guile to slip inside his man at the Canal End, indicate to the elusive butterfly where he wanted the ball, the wizard obliged, placing it into his lap but frustratingly for Paul the ball just bounced away from him. Had he scored that no doubt the confidence would have known no bounds. Instead, the merciless Eamon removed him then minutes into the second half. If we are going to win the cup, Paul will need to have a major say. Bryan Sheehan is a man who mirrored Paul's patchy display. He just could not get moving with his usual fluency and , for once, his kicking was wayward. In one instance in that first half he got in the way of JO'D who was about to get on the express train. James wasn't too pleased with that impediment. We will need Bryan operating at his optimum before the year is out.
Well the second half is easy to encapsulate. Anthony and David untouchable at midfield, a near watertight defence and a sparkling attack conducted by the returning imp from Killarney. All that fantasia happened at the end far removed from my perch at the Canal End. Seven goals were secured: two from Colm(started instead of KD),two from Darran(a sub), one from BJK( a sub, 1-3 in all) one from Doncha and the other from Stephen O'Brien. I have forgotten how many Colm was involved in. A good few. As my old friend Bob Dylan might say "blood on the tracks".
Paul and Bryan excepted, it is hard to find fault with any Kerry player, including the subs, indeed notably the subs. Tommy Walsh also came on and for the first time this year hinted that maybe his 2009 form is surfacing. He caught a couple of magnificent ones. There is an iconic photo of his Dad soaring over Brian Mullins. Perhaps, Sully has captured one of Tommy's catches yesterday.
Apart from the questionable merit of yesterdays fandango it may also transpire that we have paid a prohibitive price for it. The JO'D incident happened in front of me. He landed heavily on the outstretched hand and went off supporting his upper limb. Prior to that it was apparent that the sparkling form of 2015 had returned. In spite of of being repeatedly fouled off and on the ball he seemed to be in that explosive mood which is peculiar to him. He had scored two from play, one from a free and of course was on his way to the goal when the goalie foiled him, illegally I felt. I haven't had the benefit of TV viewing but I felt at the time it was a penalty. The Dub supporter next to me said no, the goalie got the ball. Of course,the tackler getting the ball doesn't necessarily rule out a foul being committed. I may change my mind when I look at the recording. In any case, thanks to the crusading of Comical Joe Ali from Derry, we are unlikely to get another penalty unless a Kerry player is liquidated with a .22 rifle. Even in that situation, Comical Joe is likely to proclaim that it was self inflicted! Anyway, James is irreplaceable.
Most importantly, the win was secured but there is a hollowness deep down inside. Is this too good to be true? Come back to me at sunset on the 20/09/2015 for the answer.
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Post by kerryeye on Aug 3, 2015 9:06:23 GMT
It was sort of interesting till the six subs made a complete mockery of it as a "game". The sooner they cut back the number of subs to 3 the better. 3 subs?What would that do for the game? Very strange statement!
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Post by gbbuei on Aug 3, 2015 9:08:16 GMT
Excellent performance yesterday but Kildare were just awful. Moran really is the the number 1 midfielder in Ireland. O'Brien for me was man of the match. Great to see the impact off the bench. Finally that game will give Colm plenty of confidence in the knee, he took a bang and my heart was in my mouth but thankfully he was ok. It was his right knee he damaged. I thought that tackle yesterday affected his left leg?
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Post by Annascaultilidie on Aug 3, 2015 9:15:24 GMT
I try not to criticise on here but Kildare were pisswater.
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Post by royalkerryfan on Aug 3, 2015 9:23:35 GMT
Excellent performance yesterday but Kildare were just awful. Moran really is the the number 1 midfielder in Ireland. O'Brien for me was man of the match. Great to see the impact off the bench. Finally that game will give Colm plenty of confidence in the knee, he took a bang and my heart was in my mouth but thankfully he was ok. It was his right knee he damaged. I thought that tackle yesterday affected his left leg? You might be right but the sight of him hobbling was enough to scare me.
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Post by Mickmack on Aug 3, 2015 9:28:50 GMT
It was sort of interesting till the six subs made a complete mockery of it as a "game". The sooner they cut back the number of subs to 3 the better. 3 subs?What would that do for the game? Very strange statement! 6 subs enables a strong team with a big pick to turn the last 30 mins of a game into a farce. The subs of a strong team are more likely to be better than the subs of a weak team. Its sort of obvious really. For 100 years only 3 subs were allowed.
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Post by inchperfect on Aug 3, 2015 10:28:45 GMT
No official word on James O'Donoghue yet, just this from Murt...
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Post by greengold35 on Aug 3, 2015 10:46:22 GMT
Tony Leen has confirmed in "de paper" that James dislocated his right shoulder- extremely doubtful for semi final .
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Post by thepope on Aug 3, 2015 10:53:55 GMT
I thought that Bryan Sheehan found the open spaces in Croke Park too much,at times and in future,opponents may look to expose this. Sheehan is a worry at CHF alrite. i would think sheehan would probably be best used as a midfield substitute. if you were an opposing manager you'd obviously get sheehan's man to run everytime he got the ball. if buckley recovers form i'd still opt for him at CHF. bit naive too from kildare leaving stephen o'brien (or any wing forward) free so they could play a sweeper. surely when you know your opponent is better than you, you'd pick one less forward and play the extra back as the sweeper, hence free man is probably a corner back and the other team would probably use him as their sweeper when free.
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Post by inforthebreaks on Aug 3, 2015 11:10:23 GMT
3 subs?What would that do for the game? Very strange statement! 6 subs enables a strong team with a big pick to turn the last 30 mins of a game into a farce. The subs of a strong team are more likely to be better than the subs of a weak team. Its sort of obvious really. For 100 years only 3 subs were allowed. the starting 15 of a strong team are also better than that of a weak team. So the better team will still be better.. whether you have 3, 6 or 36 subs allowed.
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Post by kerrygold on Aug 3, 2015 11:16:46 GMT
Plenty of food for thought for the management now, the players inside should be hopping off the ground over the next few weeks. The Gooch looks like he is almost back. Nice to see a bit of attitude from Tommy Walsh. His three catches were designed to make a statement. Hopefully James can find a way through the championship window over the next 6-7 weeks.
It is still the Dubs championship to win. They hold all the aces in their pack. Kerry don't have the same range to their game and would have to be tactically brilliant on the day to beat them if both teams come through their semi final ties.
Kildare were a huge disappointment yesterday and this game was over as a contest at 8 points to 2 in the first half. Cork must have been in a serious self pitting mood to throw that particular tie against Kildare.
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Post by inchperfect on Aug 3, 2015 11:23:47 GMT
Tony Leen has confirmed in "de paper" that James dislocated his right shoulder- extremely doubtful for semi final . I was going to mention that but Fitzmaurice said “Hopefully it is not too serious. He will have a scan and we will assess the seriousness of the injury. I don’t think it popped out but I’m not sure.”
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Post by Sons of Pitches on Aug 3, 2015 11:27:03 GMT
Good news.
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Post by tpo on Aug 3, 2015 11:27:03 GMT
James O’Donoghue injured his shoulder when he fell following a tackle by the goalkeeper in yesterday’s All Ireland Football Quarter final tie with Kildare.
The Kerry Medical Team immediately realigned the shoulder and an X-Ray afterwards showed that there was no serious injury sustained.
He will have a routine MRI Scan and will rest for a few days before beginning rehab and a graduated return to action.
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Post by kerrygold on Aug 3, 2015 11:32:13 GMT
Eoin Liston: Dubs still team to beat despite all Kerry's positives Eoin Liston PUBLISHED 03/08/2015 | 02:302 COMMENTSSHARE
Many people believe that Kerry's David Moran was their best player at the weekend There are so many positives for Kerry to take from yesterday's All-Ireland quarter-final victory over the Lilywhites.
The main thing is the strength in depth that they have in the forward line, with Darran O'Sullivan scoring 2-1 from the bench and Barry John Keane getting 1-3 after his introduction. Kieran Donaghy picked up a groin injury in training and tweaked it during the build-up so the captain played no part and they still scored 7-16. Colm Cooper started his first game of the Championship and scored 2-3. He looked like he was never away and it was a joy to watch him doing those things, that only he can do, again. Hopefully, Donaghy will be fit the next day and I really hope that we get to see him and Cooper play together again from the start. It gives Kerry options and a completely different dimension. Stephen O'Brien knew that he had to set down a marker after getting his place back and he got four points in the first half when the game was still there to be won. It's no slight on David Moran, who many people believe was Kerry's top performer at the weekend, to say O'Brien was my man of the match. I cannot praise him enough. In the middle of the field Anthony Maher and Moran dominated proceedings and dictated the way the match unfolded. Tommy Walsh came into the game in the second half and showed what he is capable of in the middle too, winning some great possession. They had 20 possessions inside the '45' during the first half, generated 16 shots out of this and got 10 scores, which was impressive. There should be no one getting carried away though, manager Eamonn Fitzmaurice will know that there is still a lot to work on. The defence wasn't tested in any way by Kildare and it's an area that has caused concern in the past. In attack they were also turned over seven times and hit seven wides in the first half. Those aren't statistics that will win you games against better teams. This was Division 1 against Division 3 and it panned out exactly as we thought. Kildare did well to beat Cork in their previous game, yet when the intensity increased they weren't able to execute the skills under pressure. That's the difference between the best teams and the rest. Kerry had two goal chances and they weren't able to take either of them. Lilywhites goalkeeper Mark Donnellan made a brilliant tackle on James O'Donoghue to stop the first and credit to referee David Coldrick for correctly spotting it wasn't a penalty. Colm Cooper played in Paul Geaney with a fabulous pass for the other chance, but Geaney let it slip as he turned. Greater efficiency is needed in these scenarios. That's why Darran O'Sullivan impressed me so much when he came on. His pace remains electric and that's the one thing that you can't defend against. He was clearly trying to impress the management having had to spend so long on the bench. He set up the first goal for Cooper and then got two himself. For all the positives, I certainly wouldn't have Kerry as All-Ireland favourites. Dublin are still the best team I've seen in the Championship. This was the first time that the Kingdom have hammered a team this year - Dublin have been doing it all season. The Dubs might have conceded 2-15 against Fermanagh, but it was a result that was never in doubt. Fermanagh's first goal, the first the Dubs conceded in this campaign, should have been a free out and it kick-started a little bit of a revival after the game was over. Pete McGrath's team should be very proud of the way they played and the fact that they didn't just roll over when they were 10 points down like a lot of other sides do when they're getting it from all sides off Dublin. The Dubs though really impressed me again when this game was still a contest in the first half. The play of Paul Flynn, Ciaran Kilkenny, Diarmuid Connolly and Bernard Brogan up front; their movement and the way they stroke the ball around is magic. In the half-backs Cian O'Sullivan, Jack McCaffrey and James McCarthy all have incredible pace. Brian Fenton really caught my eye and he's going to form some partnership with Michael Darragh Macauley. As well as fantastic footballers, they are a team of athletes and it will take a tremendous side to beat them this year. Indo Sport
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Post by kerrygold on Aug 3, 2015 11:33:53 GMT
I think the Bomber in his article has nailed what can be taken from yesterdays game. At this point in time you would say that Dublin are going to win the 2015 championship.
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Post by jamo on Aug 3, 2015 11:57:32 GMT
Nice gesture by Stephen o'Brien when he scored his goal - he looked to Heaven and pointed his hand.. His father a young man died of cancer last November 2 months after seeing Stephen win an All Ireland medal...puts everything into perspective.
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Post by buck02 on Aug 3, 2015 12:13:04 GMT
I said beforehand that Kerry should score more than 2 goals against Kildare and it would be nice to get a clean sheet. Obviously the 7 goals was a surprise but when I saw just how Kildare lined up in the 2nd half, it was clear that goals were going to be easy to come by.
Wonderful to see Gooch back gracing Croke Park. We all feared that maybe we had seen the last of him on the grand stage but despite not touching the ball for the 1st 15 minutes, he started weaving the magic for the remainder of the game.
James O Donoghue's injury was preventable as he should have stuck the ball in the net instead of going around the keeper. I think maybe the frustration in being held and pulled all day up to that, with no protection from the umpire directly behind him or the referee, maybe led to him wanting to walk the ball in.
Nothing more to add about the subs, the only thing I was thinking on the drive down was that maybe we could have held Darran for a surprise element in the next 2 games.
And finally I met a man yesterday who constantly told me a few years ago that David Moran was too slow and ponderous and wouldn't make it at inter county level.
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Post by southward on Aug 3, 2015 12:39:01 GMT
2 games yesterday and not a single card of any colour shown. When did that last happen?
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