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Post by rockie36 on Aug 4, 2015 11:35:10 GMT
Congratulations to Stephen...although David Moran got the RTE MOTM Stephen would have been my choice. I think Eamonn has to get some credit for starting him against Kildare as his form and tackling had come in for some criticism.....this could be the start of something memorable....
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Post by keane on Aug 4, 2015 11:46:59 GMT
Great to see Paul Galvin back again. He makes getting the breaking ball look so easy. Why cant other players copy him. But it takes intelligence and courage, which Paul has plenty of. As I said previously, BJK does not appear to be a complete "team player" but OK as an impact sub. Whatever Eamonn will take from this game is one thing but it must surely make other Managers worry about the last 20/25 minutes of a game against Kerry. It is not that they are bringing on fresh, experienced guys who are dying to impress but they are bringing on a different system of play. Nobody wants to be behind this Kerry team with 20 minutes to go because Plan B can be very destructive. Regarding Brigids comment about Keane..as Sylvester would say “the stats don’t lie”. Kerry have used 12 or 13 forwards in the 2015 championship to date...all getting different amounts of time on the field. Keane has probably got less time than most and yet has the second best score from play (2-07) just behind Paul Geaney. Regarding passing to O’Brien near the end when taking his point....you didn’t mention that Gooch had a player on his shoulder for a goal chance but decided to punch over the bar....this was not considered selfish but compassionate. The player Gooch had on his shoulder was ironically Barry John.
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Post by fitz on Aug 4, 2015 12:13:20 GMT
Stephen's point kicking was sublime on Sunday, great to see him stepping up to the plate. Think I may be repeating myself, but I reckon the management may have him pegged for stardom, he's certainly been given a lot more chances than others who have had poor performances and found themselves with bench blisters. Of course it is the 'type' of player he is too, direct and fast. We may yet see wreck from the JODSOB shotgun.
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Post by Jigz84 on Aug 4, 2015 12:19:25 GMT
Just looking back over some comments here since the game and I feel Paul Geaney has been unfairly criticised. He kicked two beauties in the first half while the game was still somewhat competitive. Anyone at the game would know he was constantly fouled off the ball. With JOD going off, I think Paul was protected, hence the early substitution.
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Post by rockie36 on Aug 4, 2015 12:39:01 GMT
I don't think Paul is being criticised but when you have a squad like that behind your back and you are the Manager....you are going to analyse guys quickly (and wrongly) and unless you are playing at your best...you will make room. Gooch, BJK and Darren were not listed on the starting 15 but they scored 5-7 combined.....3-4 of that came from two guys that were not on the field as long as Paul. Saying that though I think Paul would have made hay if he had stayed on....and is a top class player. I think that Bryan Sheehan was probably poorer than Paul and because his free taking qualities were not needed he was slightly redundant. It is a good place to be at the moment but that game is over now and we have to plan for a different animal altogether....
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Post by Joxer on Aug 4, 2015 12:45:54 GMT
I agree with you Jigz84. Pauls handling on the day left him down a bit but he had scored two brilliant points in the first half and had he been still on when the goals started flowing, would undoubtedly have been among them.
Training will be very interesting for the next 3 weeks. The easy thing would be to say there will be no changes to the 15 that took the field at the start of Sundays game but, as Eamon has repeatedly said, performing in training does matter a great deal so it would be foolhardy to attempt naming it at this point. The performance of the substitutes on Sunday last is obviously of great significance also looking forward to semi-final team selection. Interesting times indeed...
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Post by keane on Aug 4, 2015 14:18:08 GMT
In fairness, we have a couple of clowns criticizing a guy who scored 1-3 from four shots for being greedy, I think in this brave new world it's fairly reasonable to comment on the fact that Paul Geaney spilled several balls he shouldn't have.
Or maybe we just criticize some players and not others or something, I dunno
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Post by Jigz84 on Aug 4, 2015 14:31:16 GMT
In fairness, we have a couple of clowns criticizing a guy who scored 1-3 from four shots for being greedy, I think in this brave new world it's fairly reasonable to comment on the fact that Paul Geaney spilled several balls he shouldn't have. Or maybe we just criticize some players and not others or something, I dunno Paul did spill one or two balls but I don't think his place is in danger. His game will be suited to go up against Tyrone or Monaghan IMO.
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Post by keane on Aug 4, 2015 14:46:44 GMT
In fairness, we have a couple of clowns criticizing a guy who scored 1-3 from four shots for being greedy, I think in this brave new world it's fairly reasonable to comment on the fact that Paul Geaney spilled several balls he shouldn't have. Or maybe we just criticize some players and not others or something, I dunno Paul did spill one or two balls but I don't think his place is in danger. His game will be suited to go up against Tyrone or Monaghan IMO. I agree with you, he's an excellent player and don't think he should be dropped in the least.
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Post by kot on Aug 4, 2015 15:13:30 GMT
Dust settled a bit and I do worry. Can anybody see the parallels? Reigning All Ireland champions rock up to Croke Park and obliterate the opposition and await the winners of what will likely be a dogfight between the Ulster champions and a provicial rival in the other quarter final, reigning all ireland champions talked about as "operating on different levels" etc and being installed as red hot favourites to return to the decider. . . . . . . For 10 points, can you name when that last happened and what transpired??
Biggest challenge for management now is getting heads right for the next day and an entirely different and more intense challenge than anyone has offered them this year so far.
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Post by buck02 on Aug 4, 2015 15:38:02 GMT
Just looking back over some comments here since the game and I feel Paul Geaney has been unfairly criticised. He kicked two beauties in the first half while the game was still somewhat competitive. Anyone at the game would know he was constantly fouled off the ball. With JOD going off, I think Paul was protected, hence the early substitution. Exactly that I thought when he was taken off. Other than taking his eye off the ball for the goal chance Gooch made for him in the first half, I thought he did well enough.
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Post by seamo on Aug 4, 2015 15:38:26 GMT
Paul did spill one or two balls but I don't think his place is in danger. His game will be suited to go up against Tyrone or Monaghan IMO. I agree with you, he's an excellent player and don't think he should be dropped in the least. Should or shouldn't really doesn't matter. Eamon has dropped him before, and he's dropped others. This Kerry panel is competitive not because he have talented players on the bench but because Eamon has put past achievements and reputations aside. No Goouch for both games v. Cork, Peter Crowley an All-Star from last year sitting on the bench, how long has Tommy Walsh had to wait for his 10 minute cameo. Geaney is a huge talent, would make anyother team in the country, but like I said this is a competitive panel and it would be foolish to think he's a safe bet to start the semi. And he was taken off against Kildare because he was playing poorly, not to protect him as someone else suggested. If Eamon were protecting players he would have taken Moran off along with Maher.
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Post by Jigz84 on Aug 4, 2015 15:56:10 GMT
I agree with you, he's an excellent player and don't think he should be dropped in the least. Should or shouldn't really doesn't matter. Eamon has dropped him before, and he's dropped others. This Kerry panel is competitive not because he have talented players on the bench but because Eamon has put past achievements and reputations aside. No Goouch for both games v. Cork, Peter Crowley an All-Star from last year sitting on the bench, how long has Tommy Walsh had to wait for his 10 minute cameo. Geaney is a huge talent, would make anyother team in the country, but like I said this is a competitive panel and it would be foolish to think he's a safe bet to start the semi. And he was taken off against Kildare because he was playing poorly, not to protect him as someone else suggested. If Eamon were protecting players he would have taken Moran off along with Maher.Our main forward went off injured, I don't think they wanted to take a chance with Paul seeing as his shoulder/upper arm appeared to be strapped. If they were taking off players who were playing poorly then Sheehan should've gone before Geaney. I don't agree that Geaney played poorly at all.
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Post by kerrygold on Aug 4, 2015 19:35:53 GMT
Paul Galvin handled and played a pile of ball during his time on the field last Sunday.
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Post by jamo on Aug 4, 2015 21:29:06 GMT
Kerry forward Stephen O'Brien has won this week's GAA.ie Football Player of the Week award, finishing ahead of Colm McFadden and Bernard Brogan in our weekly vote. O'Brien was one of many outstanding Kerry performers in their huge victory over Kildare on Sunday, but crucially he did most of his best work when the game was still somewhat in the balance in the first half. The Kenmare man polled 37 per cent of the vote on the GAA's official Facebook, Instagram and Twitter pages, just ahead of McFadden and Brogan. *** GAA.ie FOOTBALL PLAYER OF THE WEEK RESULTS 1. Stephen O'Brien (Kerry) - 3,139 votes (37 per cent) 2. Colm McFadden (Donegal) - 2,809 votes (34 per cent) 3. Bernard Brogan (Dublin) - 2,402 votes (30 per cent) *** Éamonn Fitzmaurice dropped Stephen O'Brien for the Munster final replay win over Cork, and when reinstated for the match against Kildare, the 24-year-old set about justifying his selection. Although the floodgates eventually opened for Kerry in the second half, it was in the first half that O'Brien led the charge for the Kingdom, causing havoc down the left for Kerry and kicking four lovely points from play. His second half goal was the cherry on top of his best display in a Kerry jersey to date. In second place was Colm McFadden. Since McFadden's inspirational season of 2012, he has blown both hot and cold for Donegal. It has been mostly hot this season, and he was an inferno for Donegal on Saturday against Galway, kicking four points, three from play, and playing a central role in all three Donegal goals. His pass to Michael Murphy for Ryan McHugh's goal was sublime. In third place was Bernard Brogan. Now 31, Brogan is one of the oldest players on the Dublin team, but he is having a fantastic season. He has hit a remarkable 5-16 from play in four championship games this summer - an average haul from play of more than 1-4 per game. He weighed in with 1-6 from play in Dublin's win over Fermanagh, and given his history of saving his best form for August and September, it's scary to think what he might achieve over the next six weeks. *** Players of the Week are decided based on votes cast by followers of @officialgaa on Twitter, on the Official GAA Facebook Page and on the Official GAA Instagram page o'Brien needs to keep up this level of performance or else Eamonn will have him back on the bench... a pat on the back is very close to a kick in the ass !!!!
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Post by jamo on Aug 4, 2015 21:37:00 GMT
Just looking back over some comments here since the game and I feel Paul Geaney has been unfairly criticised. He kicked two beauties in the first half while the game was still somewhat competitive. Anyone at the game would know he was constantly fouled off the ball. With JOD going off, I think Paul was protected, hence the early substitution. good post - I agree fully every time he got on the ball he looked dangerous as well as his 2 points early on.
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Post by watchdebreakswillye on Aug 5, 2015 0:39:02 GMT
Dust settled a bit and I do worry. Can anybody see the parallels? Reigning All Ireland champions rock up to Croke Park and obliterate the opposition and await the winners of what will likely be a dogfight between the Ulster champions and a provicial rival in the other quarter final, reigning all ireland champions talked about as "operating on different levels" etc and being installed as red hot favourites to return to the decider. . . . . . . For 10 points, can you name when that last happened and what transpired?? Biggest challenge for management now is getting heads right for the next day and an entirely different and more intense challenge than anyone has offered them this year so far. I agree entirely with you re getting the heads right. 'Tis harder to come down from a high than to get up from a low. The mindset is a funny old thing - you're only as good as your next game and not your last. Tyrone or Monaghan will be tough opposition and a far cry from a poorish Cork and a very, very poor Kildare, but our Kerry lads are hungry for Samuel and hunger is a great motivator. For the 10 points - are you referring to Dublin v Donegal in last years semi-final? if so, Dublin got caught with their trousers down.
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Post by Ballyfireside on Aug 5, 2015 8:52:51 GMT
Yip, controlling enthusiasm is key and converting it into energy is a skill in itself that Éamonn will master. And nobody gets more carried away than us animals but we have been around the block and we know well that the winning is in the process, not the celebration. Kildare were as much star struck as outplayed, a bit like a poor bog donkey in a horse derby. In fairness they put a face on it and the long whistle couldn't come fast enough. Hopefully the GAA, and I included ourselves in that, will now come up with a solution that will minimise such mismatches. Sky for the 4 quarter finals is only €18 provided you already have a basic package and it is those who are isolated who are most deprived, many elderly living alone who are left behind by technology, etc. It was shameful and irresponsible to snub them and the GAA as an organisation must communicate with it's community. I know some are latching onto this as they have ulterior motives to have a go at HQ but I ain't, nil aon baint agam, well apart from the satisfaction one gets when they sense a bit of class in how things are done.
Quote for today - Those with their feet on the ground find the step to success when those with the head in the air stumble.
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Post by givehimaball on Aug 5, 2015 19:29:52 GMT
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Post by sinkthelead on Aug 5, 2015 20:33:44 GMT
My highlight of this game was a chest high ball into gooch With a faint right he was gone left in the blink of an eye leaving the Kildare defender looking like a vision of the resurrection. Probably the best turn I've ever seen
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Post by givehimaball on Aug 5, 2015 20:55:37 GMT
Some more stats Minutes Possessions Kick Pass Completion Ratio Hand Pass Completion Ratio Frees Conceded Frees Awarded Kick Out Won Cleanly Kick Out Broken Won Score Percentage Points Goals Assists Turnovers Yellow Card Red Card Black Card I'm not sure that the stats are 100% accurate as I recall Tommy Walsh catching at least 2 kickouts but they do seem to broadly match what I saw.
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Post by sullyschoice on Aug 5, 2015 21:03:50 GMT
JOD had more than two possessions. Didnt he score two points and nearly get in for a goal at least.
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Post by Chinatown on Aug 5, 2015 21:05:03 GMT
Some more stats Minutes Possessions Kick Pass Completion Ratio Hand Pass Completion Ratio Frees Conceded Frees Awarded Kick Out Won Cleanly Kick Out Broken Won Score Percentage Points Goals Assists Turnovers Yellow Card Red Card Black Card I'm not sure that the stats are 100% accurate as I recall Tommy Walsh catching at least 2 kickouts but they do seem to broadly match what I saw. Hear you. I think there was 3 and like u say 2 at least...I do like my stats but this year in particular seems to massive focus..tis the inches I suppose at this point!!
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Post by Chinatown on Aug 5, 2015 21:06:44 GMT
JOD had more than two possessions. Didnt he score two points and nearly get in for a goal at least. Yerra he is such a wonder he wouldn't be needing a possession to get a score:)
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Post by Mickmack on Aug 5, 2015 21:10:09 GMT
Maher has developed into an excellent footpasser
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Post by fitz on Aug 5, 2015 21:27:13 GMT
Dust settled a bit and I do worry. Can anybody see the parallels? Reigning All Ireland champions rock up to Croke Park and obliterate the opposition and await the winners of what will likely be a dogfight between the Ulster champions and a provicial rival in the other quarter final, reigning all ireland champions talked about as "operating on different levels" etc and being installed as red hot favourites to return to the decider. . . . . . . For 10 points, can you name when that last happened and what transpired?? Biggest challenge for management now is getting heads right for the next day and an entirely different and more intense challenge than anyone has offered them this year so far. I'd respectfully challenge this kot. I think parallels are piseogs. Each campaign and game on its merit. I think your talking about Dublin v Donegal last year? I really think the players will have dismissed the worth of the result (NOTE: not the performance of players) as soon as they got into the dressing room. Cork and Kildare are poor teams. Fitzmaurice is as cold as one of them White walkers in Game of Thrones. Monotone standard respectful interviews. No excitement at all beyond 'delighted to produce a good performance'. Rightly or wrongly we definitely were tested by Cork the first day and our performance and tactics were shown up badly. The key thing to take from the Cork game is we found a way out of what looked like a desperate position. We find a way when the sh1t is hitting the fan. This match has been worth loads to our team and without doubt is and will be the constant reminder to get the heads right.
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Post by Hicser on Aug 5, 2015 21:52:21 GMT
Some more stats Minutes Possessions Kick Pass Completion Ratio Hand Pass Completion Ratio Frees Conceded Frees Awarded Kick Out Won Cleanly Kick Out Broken Won Score Percentage Points Goals Assists Turnovers Yellow Card Red Card Black Card I'm not sure that the stats are 100% accurate as I recall Tommy Walsh catching at least 2 kickouts but they do seem to broadly match what I saw. Great scoring stats for SOB & BJK, they must have been buzzing after the match,
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