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Post by Kingdomson on Apr 8, 2016 18:09:14 GMT
Left the gorunds last night a little deflated after the loss and as with any close game was ponderdering about the what iff's.. On reflection I think the team and management did a great job in the face of major adversity in this campaign. They were plagued with injuries from the outset and trying to prepare an U21 team with the bulk of your players away from the county adds to the difficulty. When the two Cork goals against the wind in the first half left us trailing by six I feared the worst. It was a great testament to the players the way they battled back to go ahead only to go behind to another sucker blow - again they rallied and got level with the game almost up. The final Cork point was probably a fair reflection on their performance on the night but I think the kerry lads deserve great credit and hopefully with 12 of the starting team still eligible next year we will get a better run (and less injuries). Well done and proud of the effort.Fantastic post couldn't put it any better. It was a character building lesson for some our players last night and these young Kerrymen with the hearts of lions and Jack will be back big time!
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Post by Deleted on Apr 8, 2016 18:20:16 GMT
They will a good team next year but if you play like that at the back and leak goals like that it won't matter who you have you're gunna lose. Cork will be good again next year too.
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Post by crokes86 on Apr 8, 2016 19:04:27 GMT
Ah sure who cares they can win all the u21s they want but they cant win at Senior level. Thats what matters the most. They've won all these munsters in the last 10 years one senior all ireland since 1990 thats pathetic HaHa.
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Post by kerrybhoy06 on Apr 8, 2016 19:47:47 GMT
Ah sure who cares they can win all the u21s they want but they cant win at Senior level. Thats what matters the most. They've won all these munsters in the last 10 years one senior all ireland since 1990 thats pathetic HaHa. Good man- keep embarrassing yourself. By the way- I'd rather they didn't win all the under 21s that they wanted
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Post by kerrygold on Apr 8, 2016 19:56:14 GMT
Plenty of signs in the early rounds of the championship evident that this mighten/probably wouldn't be their year, much of them injury and wear and tear related.
They put in a massive performance last night considering the injury crisis before a ball was kicked, they can all hold their heads up high and come back better and stronger next year.
While it pisses the club ethos seriously off, we do need to wrap our young county players in cotton wool if we want to get the best out of them. These lads have played a world of ball in the last three years. They'll learn from this years experience. We're lucky to have such a great bunch of young players coming through. 8-10 of them will play senior championship for Kerry in the near future.
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Post by southward on Apr 8, 2016 20:19:54 GMT
Thought Spillane might have wandered out a bit further now and again. The lad has serious pace but most of the ball he got was too close to goal to exploit this.
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Post by southward on Apr 8, 2016 21:01:14 GMT
BTW, anyone notice if there were cameras last night? Some great scores; wouldn't mind seeing them again. Lovely point to win it too.
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Post by delorean on Apr 8, 2016 21:29:20 GMT
If nearly all of the Kerry boys were in college in Tralee, it would have been far easier to get them right. Undoubtedly a factor Mick. It's funny, I read Jack's comments yesterday shorty before reading Sean Hayes saying the following, it was like they were both trying to get their excuses in early! The Cork management were successful with their request to have last Saturday’s Carbery U21 semi-final involving Sean White (Clonakilty) and Sean O’Donovan (Ilen Rovers) postponed. It was the least they expected after the previous two weekends saw a large chunk of the panel absent from training because of club commitments.
“Kerry wouldn’t have this problem. Their U21 championship wouldn’t be at this time. They would be a lot more focused on their job than we would have been. But hopefully we are over the bad spell and can drive on.”
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Post by Mickmack on Apr 8, 2016 21:39:48 GMT
De Lorean...Winning the sixth Munster U21 title in a row and seeing the seniors getting relegated from division One in the same week is a surreal development no matter what way you look at it.
Are many of the 2015 and 2016 Cork u21 footballers also top class hurlers ...good enought to follow the Aiden Walsh route of concentrating on the hurling.
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Post by Jo90 on Apr 8, 2016 22:07:32 GMT
De Lorean...Winning the sixth Munster U21 title in a row and seeing the seniors getting relegated from division One in the same week is a surreal development no matter what way you look at it. Are many of the 2015 and 2016 Cork u21 footballers also top class hurlers ...good enought to follow the Aiden Walsh route of concentrating on the hurling. It's 6th victory over Kerry in a row, not Munster titles. I don't think there's any players on both Cork u21 teams this year. Kelleher and Histon were on Cork minor hurling team 3 years ago but have concentrated on football since I believe. Shane Kingston did the opposite.
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Post by delorean on Apr 8, 2016 22:16:04 GMT
De Lorean...Winning the sixth Munster U21 title in a row and seeing the seniors getting relegated from division One in the same week is a surreal development no matter what way you look at it. Are many of the 2015 and 2016 Cork u21 footballers also top class hurlers ...good enought to follow the Aiden Walsh route of concentrating on the hurling. Well a sixth win over Kerry in a row anyway, not quite a sixth Munster title in a row. Yeah, the relegation was a bit of a downer but it's been kind of coming in a way with a lot of our performances. I think they can try to make a positive out of it in a rebuilding sense. In a strange way a few wins in Division 2 might help restore a feel good factor and give a sense of purpose, we've been totally disjointed since Counihan left really. The 4-25 shipped against Roscommon was ultimately our undoing so we can't have any complaints. We're a long way off the top table so we'll have to start from scratch. I know Kelleher, O'Donoghue and Histon have all played minor/u21 hurling for Cork but I wouldn't really know much about their long-term potential. The sides they've played on haven't really had a sustained run in the Championship unfortunately.
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Post by Mickmack on Apr 8, 2016 23:16:52 GMT
Sorry..meant sixth in a row over Kerry....
I dont expect that Tyrone will be any more off for having been in division Two when it comes to the summer!
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Post by Mickmack on Apr 8, 2016 23:19:42 GMT
and while you are there de lorean...whats happening with PUC, the work schedule, the funding and all that. Not much being heard about it now. Will it open on schedule....
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Post by delorean on Apr 9, 2016 0:16:37 GMT
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Post by ataboy on Apr 9, 2016 20:56:58 GMT
In fairness Coffey didn't exactly light it up when he came on, had a good chance to win the ball for a final counter attack but decided to try and take the Cork players head off instead That was madness from Coffey alright. Now I might be wrong but I thought that he was favourite to win that ball looking on from the terrace anyway. Yeah he was very fortunate not to get a red, it was totally deliberate. You're right he was the clear favorite to win the ball but pulled out and decided to give the Cork lad a clatter. If he won that ball, it was a super chance to work for an equaliser as the Cork full back and others had pushed out from defence.
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Post by The16thMan on Apr 9, 2016 23:54:55 GMT
Conor Keane surely would have added to this team, puzzling how he didn't feature this year especially after playing the previous 3 years for our u21s. Obviously the face didn't fit I too am puzzled in regards Conor Keane, he's been one of the main men for the U21's over the last two years and was crucial in Legion's run to the county final last year. I'm aware he's been injured but he surely must of been fitter than Mark O'Connor as he's been playing for the Legion seniors lately. Can somebody shed some light on this?
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Post by kerrybhoy06 on Apr 10, 2016 6:34:20 GMT
Conor Keane surely would have added to this team, puzzling how he didn't feature this year especially after playing the previous 3 years for our u21s. Obviously the face didn't fit I too am puzzled in regards Conor Keane, he's been one of the main men for the U21's over the last two years and was crucial in Legion's run to the county final last year. I'm aware he's been injured but he surely must of been fitter than Mark O'Connor as he's been playing for the Legion seniors lately. Can somebody shed some light on this? Dropped for disciplinary reasons
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Post by glengael on Apr 17, 2016 10:08:12 GMT
Interesting to see Cork progress to the Final yesterday and Mayo see off the Dubs. It will be a very valuable title for either county.
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Post by leesider on Apr 18, 2016 18:07:52 GMT
Interesting to see Cork progress to the Final yesterday and Mayo see off the Dubs. It will be a very valuable title for either county. Heh-heh, winning it hasn't been of much value at senior level for either county.Obviously both will still be desperate to win it regardless.
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Post by delorean on Apr 20, 2016 11:15:41 GMT
Heh-heh, winning it hasn't been of much value at senior level for either county.Obviously both will still be desperate to win it regardless. The majority of Cork's 2010 Senior winning team would have played on the U-21 winning teams of 2007 or 2009.
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Post by glengael on Apr 23, 2016 14:51:31 GMT
Yes delorean, my comment was genuine. Cork need an All Ireland to build some kind of winning mentality on a national basis. Like ourselves and 2008, the 09 victory at this level is fading quickly into the past.
Added to that James Masters was the captain the last time Cork minors won an All Ireland if I remember right and that wasn't today nor yesterday.
Mayo have patented the 'beat the favourites in the semi-final and then lose the Final' trick once too often so they need to establish a winning basis as the teams from 2012 onwards age, and need to be replaced.
Underage success doesn't automatically mean senior success but it sure as hell doesn't do any harm in the overall scheme of things.
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Post by leesider on Apr 24, 2016 15:43:53 GMT
Heh-heh, winning it hasn't been of much value at senior level for either county.Obviously both will still be desperate to win it regardless. The majority of Cork's 2010 Senior winning team would have played on the U-21 winning teams of 2007 or 2009. Yeah but only one senior All-Ireland isn't a great return from two U-21 All-Ireland's.
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Post by delorean on Apr 24, 2016 17:58:29 GMT
I would consider a senior title on the back of two under 21's a pretty good result to be honest, and I think the majority of counties would. Whether Cork should have won more in that period is another question but the under 21 success was obviously of significant value, seeing as it produced a senior team that were there or thereabouts for half a decade or so. Galway won two under 21's between 2011-13 and haven't looked remotely close to winning a Connacht title, let alone an All Ireland.
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Post by delorean on Apr 24, 2016 17:59:57 GMT
Yes delorean, my comment was genuine. I know, and I agree with you. Nobody can tell the future but winning can only be a good thing.
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Post by leesider on Apr 25, 2016 7:24:38 GMT
I would consider a senior title on the back of two under 21's a pretty good result to be honest, and I think the majority of counties would. Kerry wouldn't.
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Post by delorean on Apr 25, 2016 9:20:28 GMT
I would consider a senior title on the back of two under 21's a pretty good result to be honest, and I think the majority of counties would. Kerry wouldn't. Probably not, but you weren't talking about Kerry. You were talking about Cork and Mayo.
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Post by Jigz84 on Apr 28, 2016 11:26:27 GMT
uh oh ......... www.irishexaminer.com/sport/gaa/cork-silent-on-referee-padraig-hughes-appointment-395506.htmlCork silent on referee Pádraig Hughes appointmentCork have declined to comment on the appointment of Pádraig Hughes to referee Saturday’s All-Ireland U21 final in Ennis. The county board apologised to the Armagh man last August after they released a stinging statement, criticising his handling of the drawn Munster SFC final against Kerry the previous month. Hughes was slated after he awarded a second-half penalty to Kerry for a Mark Collins’ challenge on James O’Donoghue, from which O’Donoghue goaled. Kerry went on to earn a replay with a last-gasp Fionn Fitzgerald point. A Cork statement released the August Bank Holiday Monday read: “The tremendous performance of the team in the drawn Munster final has been widely acknowledged, and it is quite probable that but for a totally wrong refereeing decision in that game, Cork would now be in an All-Ireland semi-final.” The statement, released on Cork’s official website, was an ill-judged attempt to counter the criticism levelled at then manager Brian Cuthbert, who stepped down following the heavy All-Ireland qualifier defeat to Kildare, which came seven days after Kerry won the provincial final replay. Cork later wrote to Hughes expressing their regret at the way in which they implicated him for the senior footballers’ failure to beat Kerry in Killarney. It is believed they would have faced a charge and a proposed fine had they not taken such action. On the day of the game, RTÉ Sunday Game pundit Joe Brolly was also scathing in his assessment of Hughes’ decision, while in these pages former referee John Bannon wrote that the call against Collins was harsh. Hughes takes charge of Cork’s U21 clash with Mayo in Cusack Park this weekend but officials have decided discretion is the best part of valour and elected not to remark on his appointment. The Crossmaglen native hasn’t taken charge of a Cork senior game since the draw in Fitzgerald Stadium.
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Post by glengael on Apr 30, 2016 12:20:42 GMT
I hope it doesn't rain in Ennis this afternoon. Otherwise it could be a perfect storm from the Rebel point of view.... (see what I did there! )
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Post by Deleted on Apr 30, 2016 18:35:21 GMT
The cork keeper had a shocker on all fronts. Made Kealy's performance last week look good.
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Post by Kingdomson on Apr 30, 2016 18:48:58 GMT
The Mayo goalkeeper is directly responsible for saving 2-2. He made 2 great goal bound saves and pulled down 2 points from going over his crossbar. Contrast this with the poor Cork goalkeeper who had a personally humiliating nightmare of a performance. On a human level, I felt sorry for him especially and that young man will need plenty of support to get over such a haunting public experience. Sport and life can be cruel.
However, I'm delighted for Mayo. They've had more than enough heartbreak and this backs up their minor win of 3 years ago.
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