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Post by Mickmack on Nov 19, 2015 22:55:23 GMT
Your prepared to compromise Kerry's chances of winning Sam next summer? Would it have compromised our chances of beating Kildare if there was a round of county championship after the Munster final replay would Kerry have been any further off the pace than they were v Dublin if the players were playing county championship games 2 or 3 weeks before the final.
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Post by kerrygold on Nov 20, 2015 8:57:39 GMT
Your prepared to compromise Kerry's chances of winning Sam next summer? Would it have compromised our chances of beating Kildare if there was a round of county championship after the Munster final replay The Kildare game could have been a rampant Cork if Cork had come through their tie with Kildare or another top tier team that lost a provincial final.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 20, 2015 10:30:06 GMT
We could not have played cork
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Post by fitz on Nov 20, 2015 10:32:37 GMT
Would it have compromised our chances of beating Kildare if there was a round of county championship after the Munster final replay The Kildare game could have been a rampant Cork if Cork had come through their tie with Kildare or another top tier team that lost a provincial final. I take point in theory, but beaten provincial finalists are for most part beaten dockets. Cork accentuate that further. They surrendered without even a whimper
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Post by kerrygold on Nov 20, 2015 10:44:22 GMT
We could not have played cork That is why I put in "or another top tier team" to illustrate the quality of a team Kerry "could" meet in the quarter final.
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Post by kerrygold on Nov 20, 2015 10:47:14 GMT
The Kildare game could have been a rampant Cork if Cork had come through their tie with Kildare or another top tier team that lost a provincial final. I take point in theory, but beaten provincial finalists are for most part beaten dockets. Cork accentuate that further. They surrendered without even a whimper I don't think any county would want to meet the current Kerry, Tyrone or Donegal teams in a quarter final as beaten provincial finalists in a quarter final. That is the type of shark that is out there depending on how results and fixtures pan out. Secondly any quality team beaten in the early rounds can end up as opponents in the quarter final.
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Post by lár na páirce on Nov 20, 2015 12:44:26 GMT
Your prepared to compromise Kerry's chances of winning Sam next summer? I'd love to know what the thinking is behind this quote? Are we terrified someone will get injured,Just as likely to get injured in A v B games in the stadium
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Post by kerrygold on Nov 20, 2015 14:18:45 GMT
Your prepared to compromise Kerry's chances of winning Sam next summer? I'd love to know what the thinking is behind this quote? Are we terrified someone will get injured,Just as likely to get injured in A v B games in the stadium No, its the edge that's taken of the players when they go back to the clubs and the amount of time it takes to bring them back up to speed when they return to the county set up.
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Post by neilesflynn on Nov 20, 2015 15:47:49 GMT
I'd love to know what the thinking is behind this quote? Are we terrified someone will get injured,Just as likely to get injured in A v B games in the stadium No, its the edge that's taken of the players when they go back to the clubs and the amount of time it takes to bring them back up to speed when they return to the county set up.
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Post by interested on Nov 20, 2015 16:11:03 GMT
I'd love to know what the thinking is behind this quote? Are we terrified someone will get injured,Just as likely to get injured in A v B games in the stadium No, its the edge that's taken of the players when they go back to the clubs and the amount of time it takes to bring them back up to speed when they return to the county set up. We're talking about no more than a week here, in fact they could possibly still train with Kerry and then play the club game......
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Post by Jigz84 on Nov 20, 2015 16:13:44 GMT
You'd hardly know there was a County Final on at all on Sunday. County Board does itself or the competition no favours with the lack of marketing or generation of awareness of the game. The reduction of the price of entry from €15 to €13 is hardly enticing either.
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Post by kerrygold on Nov 20, 2015 16:25:11 GMT
No, its the edge that's taken of the players when they go back to the clubs and the amount of time it takes to bring them back up to speed when they return to the county set up. We're talking about no more than a week here, in fact they could possibly still train with Kerry and then play the club game...... The clubs wouldn't accept that, they would want the players during the week after the Muster final which should be a recovery and regeneration week. Different master, different cook, different set up. Back to county set up after club game. This week becomes recovery and regeneration. Following week catch up week, 2-3 weeks at least taken up with one club game on the back of Munster final. Draw a tough nut in the quarter final and the whole thing could become ropey.
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Post by Cornelius on Nov 20, 2015 22:14:31 GMT
How does everyone see Sunday going?
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Post by baurtregaum on Nov 20, 2015 23:32:59 GMT
How does everyone see Sunday going? While both teams have had less than ideal preparation, I think Legion will have been more distracted by the Nemo game than South Kerry with the Marys game, so I think it is advantage South Kerry from that point of view. Will James and co be held as well on Sunday as they were a fortnight ago?
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Post by Premier on Nov 21, 2015 8:44:20 GMT
How does everyone see Sunday going? I feel Legion have more to learn. Stand the south Kerry players up in the tackle and avoid frees at all costs. Clamp down on a Sheehan and ask the rest of SK what else have ye got. While I feel legion's attack has to improve I can't say the same for SK
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Post by interested on Nov 21, 2015 9:38:12 GMT
We're talking about no more than a week here, in fact they could possibly still train with Kerry and then play the club game...... The clubs wouldn't accept that, they would want the players during the week after the Muster final which should be a recovery and regeneration week. Different master, different cook, different set up. Back to county set up after club game. This week becomes recovery and regeneration. Following week catch up week, 2-3 weeks at least taken up with one club game on the back of Munster final. Draw a tough nut in the quarter final and the whole thing could become ropey.
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Post by interested on Nov 21, 2015 9:40:48 GMT
<div class="quote" source="/post/184247/thread" timestamp="1448036711" author=" kerrygold"><div class="quote_body"><div class="quote_avatar_container"><div class="avatar-wrapper avatar_size_quote avatar-1189"><img src="//images.proboards.com/v5/defaultavatar.png" alt="kerrygold Avatar"></div></div><div class="quote_header"><a href="/post/184247/thread"><abbr data-timestamp="1448036711000" class="time" title="Nov 20, 2015 10:25:11 GMT">Nov 20, 2015 10:25:11 GMT</abbr></a> <span itemscope="" itemtype="http://schema.org/Person"><a href="/user/1189" class="user-link user-1189 group-0" itemprop="url" title=" kerrygold"><span itemprop="name">kerrygold</span></a></span> said:</div><div class="quote" source="/post/184243/thread" timestamp="1448035863" author=" interested"><div class="quote_body"><div class="quote_avatar_container"><div class="avatar-wrapper avatar_size_quote avatar-2760"><img src="//images.proboards.com/v5/defaultavatar.png" alt="interested Avatar"></div></div><div class="quote_header"><a href="/post/184243/thread"><abbr data-timestamp="1448035863000" class="time" title="Nov 20, 2015 10:11:03 GMT">Nov 20, 2015 10:11:03 GMT</abbr></a> <span itemscope="" itemtype="http://schema.org/Person"><a href="/user/2760" class="user-link user-2760 group-0" itemprop="url" title=" interested"><span itemprop="name">interested</span></a></span> said:</div>We're talking about no more than a week here, in fact they could possibly still train with Kerry and then play the club game......<div class="quote_clear"></div></div></div>The clubs wouldn't accept that, they would want the players during the week after the Muster final which should be a recovery and regeneration week. Different master, different cook, different set up. Back to county set up after club game. This week becomes recovery and regeneration. Following week catch up week, 2-3 weeks at least taken up with one club game on the back of Munster final. Draw a tough nut in the quarter final and the whole thing could become ropey. <div class="quote_clear"></div></div></div><br> And in the meantime, all the others sit around waiting for their 1 league game a month
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Post by kerrygold on Nov 21, 2015 12:34:31 GMT
<div class="quote" source="/post/184247/thread" timestamp="1448036711" author=" kerrygold"><div class="quote_body"><div class="quote_avatar_container"><div class="avatar-wrapper avatar_size_quote avatar-1189"><img src="//images.proboards.com/v5/defaultavatar.png" alt="kerrygold Avatar"></div></div><div class="quote_header"><a href="/post/184247/thread"><abbr data-timestamp="1448036711000" class="time" title="Nov 20, 2015 10:25:11 GMT">Nov 20, 2015 10:25:11 GMT</abbr></a> <span itemscope="" itemtype="http://schema.org/Person"><a href="/user/1189" class="user-link user-1189 group-0" itemprop="url" title=" kerrygold"><span itemprop="name">kerrygold</span></a></span> said:</div><div class="quote" source="/post/184243/thread" timestamp="1448035863" author=" interested"><div class="quote_body"><div class="quote_avatar_container"><div class="avatar-wrapper avatar_size_quote avatar-2760"><img src="//images.proboards.com/v5/defaultavatar.png" alt="interested Avatar"></div></div><div class="quote_header"><a href="/post/184243/thread"><abbr data-timestamp="1448035863000" class="time" title="Nov 20, 2015 10:11:03 GMT">Nov 20, 2015 10:11:03 GMT</abbr></a> <span itemscope="" itemtype="http://schema.org/Person"><a href="/user/2760" class="user-link user-2760 group-0" itemprop="url" title=" interested"><span itemprop="name">interested</span></a></span> said:</div>We're talking about no more than a week here, in fact they could possibly still train with Kerry and then play the club game......<div class="quote_clear"></div></div></div>The clubs wouldn't accept that, they would want the players during the week after the Muster final which should be a recovery and regeneration week. Different master, different cook, different set up. Back to county set up after club game. This week becomes recovery and regeneration. Following week catch up week, 2-3 weeks at least taken up with one club game on the back of Munster final. Draw a tough nut in the quarter final and the whole thing could become ropey. <div class="quote_clear"></div></div></div><br> And in the meantime, all the others sit around waiting for their 1 league game a month Maybe the county league as it stands doesn't serve the needs of the club players in Kerry? Decouple the county players and play county league home and away over 32 weeks of the year? Lose the senior club championship, lose the losers round for the district teams and tighten up the structure of the county senior championship? There is no joined up thinking. Four national regional groups of eight seems to be outside the realms of most visionaries in the Gaa. This would create the level playing field across the country where club and county games could be scheduled in designated windows throughout the year and more importantly during the better months of the year, weather wise. I.e. No excuses - county players are released to the clubs at the same intervals for players from Kerry, Dublin, Tyrone, Galway, Leitrim, Wexford, Longford etc. In effect you create club championship windows within the county championships windows where every player in the country has exactly the same rest and recovery times. Level playing field, no excuses, same risk to injury and recovery for everyone, and loss of county sharpness - critically required to make it work. Club players probably need to set up their own players group at this stage to rival the GPA. The replay is a mindset that needs dispensing with. To make four regional groupings of 8 work at national and club level, all club and county games would need to be played to an absolute conclusion on the day. Of course the notion of a club players group would fairly test the resolve of the dye in the wool club activist's stomachs. Na, just lets chop the u21 championship and reduce minor to u17. Shur the "drifters" in the age bracket between 17 and 22/23, those not quite good enough yet to play senior club football and secondly those not quite good enough yet to play senior county football can all exist in flux floating around in a bubble. It brings a whole new meaning to being "wrapped in cotton wool", the preserve of the club whine.
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Post by Mickmack on Nov 21, 2015 13:10:03 GMT
I agree that they should probably do away with the club championship. The club players should just go ahead and play their league games without their county men. The county men will be glad of this when the county career is over. Losing the losers round for divisional teams is a good idea too.
Divisional teams should be pitted against each other in the county championship as was suggested here but I think the winner of that competition should become one of four semi finalists of the county championship...... the other three being clubs obviously. I would restrict the number of subs a divisional team can use against a club team to 3.
The clubs are the little orchards that produces the golden fruit for Kerry. I would be skewing things in their favour as much as possible
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Post by shaggy04 on Nov 21, 2015 19:09:00 GMT
We could not have played cork That is why I put in "or another top tier team" to illustrate the quality of a team Kerry "could" meet in the quarter final. Its four years since we met anything in the quarter final,the Kerry juniors would have beaten kildare,one week or more to the point a few days isn't going to make any difference to a team training since January, would Bryan Sheehan rather play a couple of county championship game during the summer or run around week after week in muck and gutter in November and December.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 22, 2015 0:18:02 GMT
Was at the Laune Rangers Ardfert match today - tough battle and entertaining for this time of year - Rangers squeezed through but will have it all to do against Stacks. Rangers keeper made a fantastic save from Griffin when through 1 on 1 in the first half which was a huge turning point - Rangers took their goal chance in the second half and that was essentially the difference between the two teams. As a side note Seamas Mulvihill was the ref and had a good outing - his rehabilitation after the co final commences!!!
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Post by shaggy04 on Nov 22, 2015 9:07:08 GMT
We're talking about no more than a week here, in fact they could possibly still train with Kerry and then play the club game...... The clubs wouldn't accept that, they would want the players during the week after the Muster final which should be a recovery and regeneration week. Different master, different cook, different set up. Back to county set up after club game. This week becomes recovery and regeneration. Following week catch up week, 2-3 weeks at least taken up with one club game on the back of Munster final. Draw a tough nut in the quarter final and the whole thing could become ropey. How come Dublin only needed two weeks to prepare for the all Ireland final why do Kerry need four
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Post by baurtregaum on Nov 22, 2015 11:40:42 GMT
The clubs wouldn't accept that, they would want the players during the week after the Muster final which should be a recovery and regeneration week. Different master, different cook, different set up. Back to county set up after club game. This week becomes recovery and regeneration. Following week catch up week, 2-3 weeks at least taken up with one club game on the back of Munster final. Draw a tough nut in the quarter final and the whole thing could become ropey. How come Dublin only needed two weeks to prepare for the all Ireland final why do Kerry need four That comes back to the suggestion to play both semis on the same weekend and play extra time if necessary to avoid what happened this year. No reason for this not to happen. Had Dublin list the final the 2 week prep would have been put forward as a reason I'm sure.
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Post by itsmyfield on Nov 22, 2015 14:18:19 GMT
South Kerry to win by 3pts today. Feel they'll be fired up by what happened last time out
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Post by Joxer on Nov 22, 2015 14:27:43 GMT
We can stop mocking the dubs timekeeping now. Start of county final put back 10 mins because so many people couldn't be bothered to turn up on time....
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Post by Joxer on Nov 22, 2015 15:14:19 GMT
Bryan Sheehan is singlehandedly keep SK in this game...Legion would be out the gate otherwise.
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Post by The16thMan on Nov 22, 2015 16:01:38 GMT
We'll have extra time. Finished 1-11 each. Legion were 7 points ahead in the 2nd half, but will it come back to haunt them?
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Post by hatchetman on Nov 22, 2015 16:37:44 GMT
Sth Kerry win by a point
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Post by 6 in a row on Nov 22, 2015 17:59:27 GMT
This was one game Legion left after them. It was their best chance ever to win a county championship and I feel they will not be there or there abouts next year. When they really needed scores in normal and extra time the danger men (James and conor) could not provide them so they contributed to their own downfall. Bryan kept south kerry in it and killian kicked a great when the game was in the melting pot. Congratulations to south kerry.
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Post by Premier on Nov 22, 2015 18:11:58 GMT
Sheehan the greatest club/district player in the possibly ever? I couldn't think of a player who could do what he did today
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