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Post by jackiel on Aug 7, 2012 9:42:31 GMT
Have to agree with Ballybunion- not a lot of support for the Minors on Sunday,I'm sure this wasn't helped by the scheduling of the games.If the Seniors were playing directly after I'd imagine more would have made it. I appreciate that Kerry fans have a very long journey to get to Croke Park so I'm not going to run anyone down.I always feel sorry for the Minor teams as they come out onto the field and there are vast patches of empty seats, even the Dubs dont make it in early enough for Minor games. I was stewarding in Croke Park on Sunday and met one of the Kerry Minors as he walked from the dressing room onto the pitch - his comment was "my first time out here, hopefully the first of many", he was so thrilled to be there. The Dublin Minors are strong and Kerry will be up against it but I hope they get a good turnout next day.
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Post by Jigz84 on Aug 7, 2012 9:46:15 GMT
Great win for the minors but were very lucky to win. We have decent forwards although Sheehy can be a bit selfish at times. Midfield did very well Sunday. And yes I was one of the 50 or so Kerry people in for the minor game!! lol
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Post by Premier on Aug 7, 2012 12:57:42 GMT
i reckon there will be a few changes in the forward line any way. o connor will come in midfield aswell so that should help the team. midfield has gotta do some more defensive covering to stop the defence being cut open. You cant just leave the defence be pulled around without having cover there
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Post by brigid on Aug 7, 2012 20:19:03 GMT
After watching Mayo’s win V Tip on Sat I presumed that Roscommon as Connaught champions would win V Kerry. Had Ros scored 1 of their 3 goal chances in the first 5 minutes I think they would have won. |I must say I was shocked at how poor Kerry were in the 15 minutes and the following are some notes I made.
• Breaking ball. Kerry won none. • Kerry cant tackle. • Some of the forwards could not hold on to the ball. • Some players were much slower than the Ros players • Can the Kerry kick the ball? (In the wet greasy conditions there was far too much short hand passes.) • A Kerry player took a free and passed the ball straight to a Ros player. • Team work was poor. A player got the ball in midfield and tried to drive through. A simple back pass to a waiting halfback was on but NO. What are these players doing in training? Or is it all gym work.
No excuse for not being able to hold on to the ball in wet conditions as it hardly was the first shower of rain we got all year.
As about 20 minutes Kerry started to win most of the midfield breaking ball and so set up a good supply of ball to the forwards.
Unless Kerry greatly improve they would have been better off loosing V Ros instead of getting hammered V Dublin.
Re Niall Sheehy... Without him Kerry would not have won. Someone has said that he was selfish, but he was not going to pass the ball to those players who could not hold on to the ball.
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Post by misteallaigh abú on Aug 7, 2012 20:41:52 GMT
Positive stuff as usual Brigid, fair play to you.
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Post by Premier on Aug 7, 2012 22:15:10 GMT
i wonder will performances in the county minor championship affect whether or not people get called up to the panel for the dublin game
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Post by Jigz84 on Aug 7, 2012 22:57:47 GMT
Brigid, having a go at young lads because they couldn't hold on to the ball in very bad conditions is extremely harsh, there were very heavy downpours before the match and during it. Add to that most of these players were playing in Croke Park for the first time so nerves were a part of it too.
It was myself who suggested that Sheehy was selfish on the ball. He's a good minor and a good prospect but to say they wouldn't have won without him is a bit much. How about Kieran Murphy at midfield, he played very well and caught some great ball.
I do agree that the backs were poor but anything can happen on the day with minors. A possible All-Ireland Final appearance would lift the spirits of Kerry football no end.
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Post by ciarraiabu99 on Aug 8, 2012 10:05:08 GMT
^^ some1 is either from back west or a very sour minor player who didnt make the cut (or relative of one) . if all you have to say is negative stuff about young lads who started work last august for this i and im sure others would appreciate it if u didnt comment at all.
it was a great win and with 4 more weeks training with mickey ned and co. this team can improve even more
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Post by seamo on Aug 8, 2012 10:33:39 GMT
jigsawpuzzle, that's a poor comment. On the Kerry v Donegal thread you were lamenting the neglect of young talent. Where do you think young talent comes from - a catalogue ? I have my (very valid) reasons for disliking this minor team. A lot of these fellas are brought to be treated as God's. I refuse to. I will make no further comment on why, but I will criticise them. For the record, this is a poor minor team. A far better Tipperary team are out of the Championship despite beating them twice. That's not the Kerry minors' faults, but the format is a joke. Maybe you do have valid reasons to dislike this team, but you don't have valid reasons to hate on them in public without at least disclosing your reasons So tell us your reasons or else refrain from commenting further, what you deem valid may not be valid in others opinion.
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Post by rangersboy on Aug 8, 2012 11:16:07 GMT
I was at the Kenmare v midkerry game last night, some of the present Kerry minors stood out Devon Flaherty, Brian Crowley and his brother. Ronan Murphy didnt perform at all, this may be down to his injury but Adrain Spillane was outstanding beat Murphy hands down. How this young fella is not on the panel is a mystery, he is strong in the air and excellent on the ball Murphy is a bigger man but spillane knocked him off the ball several times. Mickey Ned was at the game so surley we will see Adrain drafted in.
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Post by Jigz84 on Aug 8, 2012 11:22:33 GMT
I was at the Kenmare v midkerry game last night, some of the present Kerry minors stood out Devon Flaherty, Brian Crowley and his brother. Ronan Murphy didnt perform at all, this may be down to his injury but Adrain Spillane was outstanding beat Murphy hands down. How this young fella is not on the panel is a mystery, he is strong in the air and excellent on the ball Murphy is a bigger man but spillane knocked him off the ball several times. Mickey Ned was at the game so surley we will see Adrain drafted in. Wasn't Spillane on the panel earlier this year but then dropped?
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Post by glengael on Aug 8, 2012 17:31:19 GMT
jigsawpuzzle, that's a poor comment. On the Kerry v Donegal thread you were lamenting the neglect of young talent. Where do you think young talent comes from - a catalogue ? I have my (very valid) reasons for disliking this minor team. A lot of these fellas are brought to be treated as God's. I refuse to. I will make no further comment on why, but I will criticise them. For the record, this is a poor minor team. A far better Tipperary team are out of the Championship despite beating them twice. That's not the Kerry minors' faults, but the format is a joke. Well, jigsawpuzzle, if you have an agenda about this team and valid reasons (you say ) to criticise them , I find it a bit strange that you won't be honest and share those reasons and that agenda with us. As a fellow contributor, I think it only fair to ask you to be open with us about what that agenda is and what gives rise to your unpleasant comments about young men who are representing their County. If you don't wish to be honest, I'll draw my own conclusions. I wish the team all the best in the next few weeks. They deserve our support.
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Post by ciarraiabu99 on Aug 9, 2012 12:06:14 GMT
Lets talk about the game for a while. Of the people which attended the minor game on sunday who do ye think were our best performers and where do ye think the game was won ? i see the papers think it was the half forwards and half backs but i wouldnt be too sure about that although they did play well . The main reason i joined this was to get other peoples opinions so what do ye think?
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Post by mitchels on Aug 9, 2012 15:45:34 GMT
Niall Sheehy and Conor keane are our best players . They have the most talent and are our best chances of winning . Jack Savage , Cillian Fitzgerald , David Foran are solid . I think Carmody is a weak link . Sean Moloney would be a better option there or Brian Crowley but he's our best back . If Eanna o' Connor is back he could go midfield with Kieran Murphy and Ronan Murphy could go to no.6 . It would be great if Adrian Spillane could make it at midfield because it would allow Kieran Murphy to go to no.7 because Greg Horan is not a back . He would be a great option in the forwards . Jake Moran should be our no.5 playing great for John Mitchels . If you had Jake Moran , Ronan Murphy , and Kieran Murphy as our half back line it would make for a very solid half line . Gavin Crowley is no full back . He should be at no.4 . I have two people Cian Hallissey from Templenoe and Shane Stack from Moyvane . Both could play full back . I know it's not going to happen but my team would be 1 Gavin Curran (Dingle) 2 Cathal o' Luing (An Ghaeltacht) 3 Cian Hallissey (Templenoe) 4 Gavin Crowley (Templenoe) 5 Jake Moran ( John Mitchels) 6 Ronan Murphy ( Beaufort ) 7 Kieran Murphy ( Kilcummin ) 8 Adrian Spillane ( Templenoe ) 9 Eanna o' Connor ( An Ghaeltacht ) 10 Dave Foran ( St.Senans ) 11 Jack Savage ( Kerins o' Rahillys ) 12 Cillian Fitzgerald ( Churchill ) 13 Brian Crowley ( Templenoe ) 14 Niall Sheehy ( John Mitchels ) 15 Conor Keane ( Legion ) . Subs : 16 Stephen Cahillane ( Keel ) 17 Greg Horan ( Austin Stacks ) 18 Jack Barry ( Na Gaeil ) 19 Sean Moloney ( John Mitchels ) 20 Darragh Carmody ( Na Gaeil ) 21 Shane o' Connor ( John Mitchels ) 22 Gavin o' Shea ( Dr.Crokes ) 23 Denis Daly ( St.Mary's ) 24 Shane Stack ( Moyvane ) . Ciaran o' Connell ( Austin Stacks ) Adam Barry ( Brosna ) would be close too .
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Post by brucealmighty on Aug 9, 2012 16:16:42 GMT
when did you ever see cian hallisey play in the backs? he has been a forward or a midfielder all his life
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Post by mitchels on Aug 9, 2012 17:46:25 GMT
Yeah I did .
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Post by upthekingdom123 on Aug 9, 2012 21:27:11 GMT
"Mitchells" in what world would you have Jake Moran playing wing back at this level. He gives away far too much ball and is known to not be able to mark ? Adrian Spillane walked away from the panel.
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Post by jigsawpuzzle on Aug 10, 2012 1:01:55 GMT
^^ some1 is either from back west Expand?
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Post by mitchels on Aug 10, 2012 2:40:47 GMT
"Mitchells" in what world would you have Jake Moran playing wing back at this level. He gives away far too much ball and is known to not be able to mark ? Adrian Spillane walked away from the panel. I don't know what game you watched but Jake Moran is playing great football and should be on easily . He will play Kerry u21 for sure just like Ciaran Deane he should have made the team last year .
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Post by kerrybhoy06 on Aug 10, 2012 10:06:43 GMT
After being at the match I had drawn certain conclusions and these have been reinforced by watching the highlights. We have no pace in the team and very little power-everyone of the Ros forwards was able to out-power and out-pace our defenders. Will Dublin be so poor in front of goal?
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Post by wornout2 on Aug 10, 2012 11:33:43 GMT
This team seem to be doing exceptionally well for a team with such doubters!!
I for one think it's heartening to see a kerry underage team overachieving for a change.
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Post by fivenarow on Aug 10, 2012 12:02:01 GMT
You need a certain amount of luck to win anything & this Kerry team has had bucket loads so far - they have been beaten twice & Roscommon were like rabbits in head lights & did everything in their power to throw it away.
Dont get me wrong, its great that they are in an All Ireland semi-final but the next big test is to come in the shape of Dublin when we'll find out how good or not so good they really are. Personally, I dont think that we are physically strong enough to compete with them like Tipp did in last years final. Then again minors are minors & anything can happen & we'll hope for the best.
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Post by misteallaigh abú on Aug 10, 2012 19:29:07 GMT
Paddy power match betting; Dublin 1/6 Kerry 5/1. Mayo 4/6 Meath 6/4.
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Post by seamo on Aug 10, 2012 21:06:16 GMT
Judging by some of the comments here, sales for Dublin flags should sore in Kerry over the next couple of weeks!!!
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Post by homerj on Aug 27, 2012 18:10:31 GMT
cant believe that this thread has not been touched in almost 2 weeks!
i know they are up against it on Sunday, but jesus at least they deserve our support!
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Post by MrRasherstoyou on Aug 27, 2012 19:01:51 GMT
Looking forward to this, will Kerry be out for revenge over Sept 2011? Certainly still looks a very strong Dublin team, looking to make amends this year for last year's final. Kerry underdogs, does that factor matter quite so much at this level? Certainly they know they are here on a lifeline or two, so they will have extra determination to make the best of it. Either way, always special when Kerry and DUblin meet, at any level
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Post by Deleted on Aug 27, 2012 19:48:05 GMT
Dublin should hammer Kerry. The only risk for Dublin is complacency. Who knows, the ref might make a game of it
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Post by Mickmack on Aug 27, 2012 19:53:04 GMT
Mick Deegan son players for the club in Ashbourne where he lives. How is he playing for Dublin. Did know that was allowed
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Post by greengold35 on Aug 27, 2012 20:55:47 GMT
Kerry though real outsiders could put it up to Dublin on Sunday; they have already beaten Dublin in a challenge game and will relish a shot at the Leinster champions; Kevin McCarthy has been playing really well for Kilcummin and has been drafted into the recent training sessions; with the return of Eanna O'Conchuir at midfield an upset could be on the cards; Paddy Power have them at 5/1 which in a two horse race is a great bet!
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Post by mossie on Aug 27, 2012 20:56:16 GMT
jwhen were kerry ever such a long price for a game of football against dublin?! what a fillip a kerry win would be for kerry football. Paddy power match betting; Dublin 1/6 Kerry 5/1. Mayo 4/6 Meath 6/4.
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