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Post by pj8 on Aug 2, 2010 9:55:31 GMT
Jack O'Connor also said in his interview, that the better team won and that Down deserved it. We all know we were beaten by the better team on the day and we'll offer our congratulations to them, but like Jack pointed out, they're was many factors that has to be looked at.
On another note stupid questons to ask a manager after a game. Is there a problem with discipline within your squad? Looking for reaction, looking for headlines, boost the sunday game ratings, stupid!
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Post by ballynamona on Aug 2, 2010 10:45:17 GMT
The expression, arsehole sits perfectly with the bitter little man. Couldn't agree more. Just watched it on the iplayer. It must get chilly up there on the high moral ground.
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Post by hamish on Aug 2, 2010 11:37:08 GMT
I haven’t been on here since Friday night and am only getting my thoughts in order now about Saturday’s game. I was pretty wrecked by the time I pulled into the driveway on Saturday night, the reading on the car had 630km clocked up for the round trip and the back was aching .... and then there was the disappointment too!
But I am glad I made the trip for the lads .... I was disappointed for the lads that more people didn’t make the trip. But like, Lorr29 said in an earlier post, I stood and I clapped them off the field .... not for Saturday but for everyday they have gone out there and played their hearts out in the green and gold of Kerry, for all the hours of pleasure they have given me travelling to matches, watching them play, talking about them, listening to commentaries and filling me with pride as a follower of the Kingdom.
I’m not sure that this is the end of an era, although it felt like the end of something in Croker on Saturday ... I think as Jack said in his post match interview that a few lads will hang up of the boots, but that’s not for me to speculate on and I won’t be writing any ones obituaries. They will decide in their own good time when the dust has settled.
We all knew that the good times had to end sometime and I suppose time finally caught up on some of the lads .... that and the massive losses of last year, plus the two suspensions were just a bridge too far. In a way I hope that the break will do the lads plenty of good .... This is the first time in most of these guys footballing careers with Kerry that they haven’t been involved in the championship in either August or September. We have been in every All-Ireland Final since 2004 .... many of these guys have never known anything else but championship football up until the third Sunday in September. So I hope the break can give them time to give the legs and the heads a break, to go on holiday and that many of them will be back refreshed in 2011. I also hope that a few of the fringe players and guys from the u-21 set up will seize the initiative to make a break through onto the senior team and that the McGrath Cup and the League next year can really be used to re-build and blood players.
In terms of the game itself, I don’t think that I have a whole lot more to contribute that hasn’t already been said by others. I had a sense of forboding very early on in the game ... you just got the feeling that it just wasn’t going to be our day. There was a tiredness and lethargy there all through the field. Somedays all the little things go your way, the hop of a ball, the run of a guy into space, and I felt none of those things went our way on Saturday. I think midfield as many predicted here in the last few weeks had a bad day at the office, as a result the ball into the forwards was never what was needed to keep the scoreboard ticking over. I think Declan getting injured very very early on had a significant impact on the half forward line ... he was over on the sideline getting treatment a few times and was certainly not involved as centrally as he should have been. I felt that he played very deep too and was in our half back line for a lot of the game. We really missed Galvin scrapping on the deck for the midfield breaks. When he is playing, and the ball breaks in midfield .... look to the ground and he is so often in there winning the so called ‘dirty’ ball ... we really missed that on Saturday. Similarly we missed Tomas’s surging bursts from defence ... if anything can inspire a team, that certainly can. Anyway, I’m not here to criticise, the better team won on the day.
But what about the Gooch – he is just a class act. I posted after the Limerick game , that I think that he really does function on a different level entirely and Saturday was another example of that. At one stage in the first half, he caught the ball on the Cusack Stand side of the field and did such a classy jink before kicking the ball over the bar into the hill ... it just summed him up! He also set up both of Star’s goal attempts ... both of which showed the great vision that he has.
So here we are in the first week in August and no championship football to look forward to, but we have been down before and we have bounced back again and again and again and I have no doubt but that we will return to the top table to reclaim Sam and bring him to his rightful home again. The proud tradition of the green and gold has shortened many a Winter and brought joy to all our lives and I look forward to many more days out both near and far! In the meantime, I’m looking forward to the county championship and seeing it played in fine dry weather for a change! And I know come the new year, I’ll be wrapping up in a big fleece jacket and a woolly hat and heading for the first League game of 2011!
Ciarraí Abú!
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Post by homerj on Aug 2, 2010 11:39:01 GMT
sickened aint the word. this is a game we should never have lost, but somehow did. everything went wrong on the day, down got everything going for them, they should have went and did the lotto sat nite cos this was their day.
mistakes, injuries to declan and quirke, poor subs, poor reffing. if i had to give my full thoughts on the game, id be here all week.
just a sad sad day, leaves a sour note to a year that had so much promise. there was another all ireland in this team, weve left it after us.
with all the talk about retirements, maybe the team will stick together and give it another lash just to shut the f8cking begrudgers up.
maybe tomorrow i will give my full view, but sickened right now.
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Post by Mickmack on Aug 2, 2010 11:51:48 GMT
Down came out first and headon to the Canal End. Dont Kerry normally head to the Canal End.
I wonder was this agreed beforehand?
Most people would like to see Mayo win an All Ireland but as it would put a smile that the face of that little *e Kevin McStay, I hope they never win it now.
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Post by Mickmack on Aug 2, 2010 11:57:59 GMT
The theme of the summer is teams being afraid to win against bigger teams. Kildare, Cork and Dublin wouldnt believe deep down that they could take Kerry. No such issue with Down. Its no more than 50;50. Time for Bryan Sheehan, Darren, Donncha, Micheal, Killian to become leaders now. If they dont, Kerry could lose this. I was fully confident that Kerry would beat Cork. I have no such confidence going into this game. This is the biggest disappointment.....that Sheehan, Darren, Donncha and Killian arent stepping up and leading. Paul, Tomas, Declan, Gooch, Scanlon. Mike Mc, Donaghy are leaders. When a few of these were missing or below form the others could do it. Finding new players is one thing. Finding great players is another. Great players lead and deliver when need is greatest.
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Post by mitchelsontour on Aug 2, 2010 12:04:14 GMT
You're spot on regarding Jacks interview, there should have been no excuses we were outplayed on the field and on the sideline end of story, no matter what we think of the CCCs over zealous scrutiny of Kerry games,sometimes you just have to bite your tongue and give credit where credit is due and look to the future and move on if we start getting bitter then we will be in bigger trouble next year. I was very disappointed with Jack's lack of sportsmanship when he gave that interview to that girleen. Looking for excuses and blaming the CCC and the media for Kerry's defeat reflects poorly on this county. In contrast, Mickey Harte was graceous and smiling eventhough his team were robbed by the crossbar and goalpost. Looks like, 'what goes around, comes around' and Kennelly's hard man antics last year and subsequent gloating in his book has come to roost, and his medal will now look very tarnished, as indeed it is. It's no wonder Mick O Connell was scathing on Kerry's new tactics when he took the trouble to phone a well known radio programme last year. He said, and I quote " If you can't win playing honest football, then you should lose with grace" Jack O Connor take note. Jack's point is as clear as day - the CCC only acted on two high profile incidents that the were highlighted by the TSG. I in no way condone the actions of Paul and Tomas but surely there were other incidents of similar foul play that deserved mention but were some how missed by the panel on the TSG both hurling and football. We were well beaten on Saturday - well done to Down - but we will return. Mickey Harte ain't all that happy either - System an ‘absolute disgrace’ blasts Harte By Daragh O Conchúir Monday, August 02, 2010 TYRONE boss Mickey Harte slammed the "flawed" championship system as an "absolute disgrace" after his side’s shock defeat to Dublin. While emphasising that he was not detracting from the Dubs’ success – which he attributed to their workrate and superior economy in attack – Harte is adamant that provincial champions are at a serious disadvantage against teams that had learned from defeat and progressed through the qualifiers. Indeed he noted that the backdoor route had served his own teams well in the past en route to All-Ireland glory. Tyrone experienced the other side of the coin on this occasion and Harte wondered why change had not occurred before now, given the frequency with which provincial winners are overturned in quarter-finals. "It makes me question the system, which I’ve said a number of times," Harte asserted. "The system is flawed. It was supposed to be changed at Congress this year. I don’t know what people were doing when they were there but it’s a very stark flaw in the system. "Why is it that the people who win their provinces get no second chance and everybody else does? "I said that before today. It’s wrong and I think it needs to be addressed. It’s an absolute disgrace that the people who win the provincial championships are disadvantaged. That makes no sense.’’ And Harte has a solution which he believes is fair and easy to apply. "Have the provincial champions play each other. Have the two losers play the best two qualifiers and the two winners get through to the semi-final. That’s what you should do with champions. You shouldn’t be putting them into that place where they can never experience the taste of defeat where others have. "We can’t do anything about the taste of defeat this year. The people who lose earlier, they can get that feeling over them and respond to it. We can’t and that’s not fair." He was not taking away from Dublin’s victory though. "It’s all about how they played, the way they stayed the game, got the scores that mattered and how efficient they were." Harte agreed that the result may have been different had Martin Penrose’s shot just before half time struck the net rather than woodwork. "If we went in four points up I think we’d have been in a very strong position. In the past things went for us and because of that we got a lot of victories. Today it went a bit against us and we have to lick our wounds." But it was Dublin who converted their opportunities while Tyrone’s astonishing second half profligacy left them vulnerable. Harte was impressed with what Pat Gilroy had done in such a short space of time. "I suppose it was a case of two teams working very hard and making life hard for each other. And one team were that little bit more efficient around the goals than the other. That was probably the bottom line. "I can’t fault our players for how they worked. When you create as many chances as we did you mostly win games. That didn’t happen and you could say some of it was poor finishing. But I think also an element of that is the amount of pressure the opposition put on you, so that’s credit to Dublin. "We’ve seen them come with a new style this year and they played that throughout the league. Their game has improved a lot, even since we played them in the league when they beat us. I think they were a much more solid force today. We prepared as well as we did for any game and that tells the tale that Dublin were very good." This story appeared in the printed version of the Irish Examiner Monday, August 02, 2010 Read more: examiner.ie/sport/gaa/system-an-absolute-disgrace-blasts-harte-126744.html#ixzz0vRtpMwGm
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Post by maoruisce on Aug 2, 2010 12:18:24 GMT
We all strive to see some kind of justice served in this world, of course. Civilisation wouldn't survive if we didn't. But it's important to keep it all in perspective. Justice is an ideal, and like all ideals it's well nigh impossible to find in the real world. We have to settle for the justice we can make, and whether we like how it's served or not, ultimately we have to accept it. Because the alternative isn't much of an option, is it?
“Fair Play” - that knightly and courteous emulation, a pair of words first yoked together by Shakespeare, which raises the sport above dark subterfuges, has been mortally wounded this season. We don't want rancour or running battles with officials and the media. We don't want sour grapes from the losers and most of all we don't want any 'truc' with the creeping menace of bad sportsmanship. Sport is the school of loyalty, of courage, of fortitude of resolution and universal brotherhood. It is not sufficient that sportsmanship characterises man's activities in the athletics field – it must permeate all of life. Ultimately it is what makes playing the game worth the candle.
Neither is it sufficient that we internalise success and externalise failure. Defeat is a disappointment, not a tragedy. We are always magnanimous in victory, let us now be gracious in defeat. An Dún, you earned your victory fair and square. You have my unreserved best wishes for the future.
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Post by kot on Aug 2, 2010 12:18:48 GMT
Looking at the game again on TSG tonight, i think people are making too much of Killian Young's disallowed goal. The whistle was blown well before he shot for goal and the Down defenders had realised already and weren't closing Young down. Certainly not a foul throw but there is no certainty a goal would have been scored so to say that a goal was disallowed is false, a goal opportunity was. He was bombing through at full pace, the defenders were going the opposite way and were wrong footed . . .there was a 90% chance he would have scored a goal.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 2, 2010 12:30:24 GMT
The theme of the summer is teams being afraid to win against bigger teams. Kildare, Cork and Dublin wouldnt believe deep down that they could take Kerry. No such issue with Down. Its no more than 50;50. Time for Bryan Sheehan, Darren, Donncha, Micheal, Killian to become leaders now. If they dont, Kerry could lose this. I was fully confident that Kerry would beat Cork. I have no such confidence going into this game. This is the biggest disappointment.....that Sheehan, Darren, Donncha and Killian arent stepping up and leading. Paul, Tomas, Declan, Gooch, Scanlon. Mike Mc, Donaghy are leaders. When a few of these were missing or below form the others could do it. Finding new players is one thing. Finding great players is another. Great players lead and deliver when need is greatest. This is one of my main issues I have also. I would query Scanlon as a leader. The jury is out on that in my book and he will face a fight for his place next year. He falls into the other category at the moment. With the likes of Killian, Bryan , Darren etc the question is are they happy with the fact that they have 2 or 3 AI medals already or will they step up. Killian for example has been a regular starter for the past 4 years but I don't recall him ever scoring a point or delivering a match changing moment. Killian hasn't been playing badly, its just I think he could bring more to the team.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 2, 2010 12:32:37 GMT
In terms of what Jack said after the game, I am fine with most of what he said but he doesn't come across well when he complains about the ref being from Ulster. Jack is the only person who has raised this and it was an unnecessary comment.
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Post by Mickmack on Aug 2, 2010 13:15:11 GMT
All you have to do is watch last years final to see Scanlons leagership qualities.
Scanlon is entitled to lose form like anyone else. Gooch did. Tomas did a few years ago too.....remember. Darragh did too.
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Post by kerrywoman on Aug 2, 2010 13:58:06 GMT
I was there Saturday proud to have been there to see this mighty Kerry team that has given us great days. I have to say I cannot stand the hand passing and it got us into trouble with the goal and a point from Quirke. Scanlon is at all the time, in fact he passes the ball backwards I cannot understand why Kerry can't kick the ball long. Dublin/Tryone match was a joy to watch. As for the disallowed goal McStay would really want to get his act together, fair play to Davis. As for Jack after the match as Dara O'Cinneide said he was a wounded man and the "girleen" that asked him the question about indiscipline was looking for headlines.
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Post by vicmc on Aug 2, 2010 14:22:46 GMT
jack o connor was right about the ref. same story in tullamore last yr when that donegal guy reffed the antrim game. the gaa hierarchy got what they wanted, kerry not being in the final again.
but we are kerry and we will be back. theres no great team out there and nobody will want to play us next year after our break.
we did it in 84-86 and theres no reason why the most of that team cant come back for more long summers.
maybe next year the kerry fans wont take them for granted and actually travel in numbers not like the pathetic turnouts in cork and croke park this year.
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Post by dod2102 on Aug 2, 2010 14:40:21 GMT
sick as a parrot after the weekend had a bad feelig going up and without thomas and paul thiught it would be hard against a young hungry team but didnt tink we would lie down like that.was unimpressed wit a lot of the senior players performances especially tom sul seamus scanlon mike mac and keiran donaghy. . wit regards to keiran donaghy i agree wit what pat spillane said before the game on sat that his workrate has dropped considerbly since his injury last year i tink is the cause or maybe he has got 2 big for his boots,but to be fair is well to him he is not getting the service he was 3 and 4 years ago,s can understand his fustration but he should be seen to encouraging all around i dont agree that this is the end for this team tink wit a few fresh hungry players maybe from a junior ll ireland win this year there is no reason why we cant be there or there abouts again next year
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Post by vicmc on Aug 2, 2010 14:47:23 GMT
dod2101 - donaghy not getting the service he was 3 or 4 years ago? he got two goals handed to him on a plate on sat and missed the two of em
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Post by Dermot on Aug 2, 2010 16:08:12 GMT
I was sitting beside two down supporters today and they marvelled at the quality of colm cooper, just as i was impressed with martin clarke. They saw cooper turn swerve dummy opponents and kick with great accuracy.he has been at the top of his game for 8 years and he is still relatively young. He showed great leadership and always made the hard runs to gain possession.We expect so much from him everytime and he rarely if ever lets us down. he kicked 7 out of a total of 1-10 today.he is a magician of a player and worth the admission fee alone.congratulations to down on a well merited win.today has blown the championship door wide open and come september our near neighbours will be basking in all ireland glory. The very best player in Ireland by a mile .... Wish we had had him last Saturday. (as our guys just couldnt seem to put the ball over the bar) He really is a joy to watch !
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Post by Dermot on Aug 2, 2010 17:28:23 GMT
Hard luck to Kerry .. you just weren't at the races at all and Down seriously upped their game ... Clarke was immense for them.
I'm sure like us, you will have a few lads deciding to call it a day but I'm sure you'll be there or there abouts again next year.
I can't see anyone beating Cork now but you really never know ... I'm giving up predictions for another year at least !!!
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Post by dod2102 on Aug 2, 2010 18:18:48 GMT
to be fair to donaghy the 1st one the keeper was on top of him annd the second he made a great save u need luck for goals at that level and he didnt get them sat
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Post by kerryfanatic on Aug 2, 2010 18:48:43 GMT
Congrats to Down for their win today. We missed Galvin and O Shea today for sure. Also the disallowed goal did not help today. No doubt we need to reassess where we are at now for the future when things settle down.
Thank you to Kerry for all your entertainment and pride you bring to your County. I am sure we will have many more more successful happy days in the future. We will rise to the occasion again in the near future and we have our Munster title this year anyway. We are by no way empty handed and also have our 36 all Irelands ;D Come on the Kingdom!!!
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Post by MrRasherstoyou on Aug 2, 2010 21:42:42 GMT
Hard luck to Kerry and well done to Down. There's little to add to much of what has been said. This has been a truly great Kerry team, they were great champions again last year, and their record over the last decade at least has been incredible.
I for one was up for Kerry on saturday, I always feel there's something amiss if they are not still involved in the semis. It feels a bit anti-climatic now that both they and Tyrone are gone. Also I ad some gripes with Down since the last time we playeed them that left a sour taste in my mouth, but I'll leave that for another day if the need arises.
Down played fantastic football on saturday, it was thrilling to watch. They were by far and away the outstanding team of the weekend, some of their scores from mad angles were like dream football. Their pace, their overall conviction, the intelligence of their play, and their decisiveness, as well as obviously the skill, was like a breath of fresh air. The manner of the first goal alone could only make me envy our own lack of conviction and belief in the past 2 or 3 years at least in the biggest games. Regarding some incidents from the game, it was clear that a couple of Down players stopped playing when the ref blew for the hand-pass that was followed by the disallowed goal for Kerry. It also seems to have been forgotten that he did give one against Down as well. In the latter part of the game the Down goaly made two top saves, the second one was the better I think, as Donaghy did the right thing and hit it low. If that had gone in, many sides might have started to panic, with only about 3 points in it. Many games are to some extent won and lost on one or two turning points, and the final result sometimes does no justice to how close it could have been. Thems the breaks, and that's hard to take.
Of course they benefitted hugely from being rank outsides, from Kerry being very flat and missing players, and perhaps finally too many weary of the big battles, and there's no doubt also that Down exhibited the effect of the heavy hand of history upon Kerry, or the inspiring hand in their own case. That said, it is wonderful to see any team just take off when they reach Croker, and should give hope and belief to many. Kerry themselves have done it many times. They owe themselves, their supporters, their county, and the nation nothing. They have been a massive credit to the GAA and have born the mantle of favouritism and expectation incredibly well. Every other team still aspires to achieve even a little of what that team achieved. The spirit and lore and culture of Gaelic Football is embodied in the green and gold and my only gripe is that while that team was still in it's pomp my own team did not manage one major victory over them, and lost the most recent contest in a terrible collapse. However I still treasure my visits to Kerry in times when both yourselves and my own football team have been involved in the business end of the championship down the years. I hope to be there one year in my life when we have the upper hand! That one will carry on a while yet, but I wouldn't write off Kerry with their full selection and clear heads, fresh hunger renewed, being a force in the next couple of years yet. After all, when they beat other teams and sometimes beat them heavily, it could equally be said those teams were "not the best", just as Kerry folks might say now they lost because their team the last day was "not the best". Any victory over Kerry will always be treasured by any team that manages it, and that's the best compliment I can pay them. It will also make a nice change for yis all on here to sit back a bit and watch others deal with all the pressure and potential massive let-down of losing Championship semis and finals, whilst next year not so many will make Kerry favourites to win anything, not always the worst position to be in. Whilst I feel that Kerry have had some big breaks against them this year, I think that Kerry people should look at the overall ledger of the era and be very thankful. Enjoy looking ahead with anticipation instead of what seemed (inevitably considering the level of success) to have become just "win or bust". Sometimes the joy can go out of it..........
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Post by sambo on Aug 2, 2010 21:47:41 GMT
Having watched a replay of the match this evening I really believe that even, allowing for a few own goals, we could and maybe should have won this game. By own goals I mean the following; 1) Starting with a midfield that is not up to it at this level. I have never been a fan of either Quirke or Scanlon. To compound matters we take off Quirke first when he was putting himself about (don’t blame him for first goal as Mike Mac should have cleared the ball). Scanlon offers nothing. In fact in possession he is a liability. How he is ahead of Johnny Buckley is mind boggling to say the least. 2) Taking Star from full forward for nearly 20 minutes of the second half. 3) Not releasing Tommy Griffin to half back/midfield and introduce Bohane earlier. 4) Awful miss by Star... he needs to learn that you don’t always have to blast the ball to roof of the net. A low side foot gets you 3 points as well!!! I could go on but it I would probably just annoy myself and others. Compound our own goals and an inept referee and you get the result we had on Saturday. Down are very ordinary and I would rate them 4th of the remaining teams. As for the future I don’t think that it’s as bad as people are saying. Having said that when you attempt to name a starting 15 for next year one does begin to worry. Can anyone tell me who will be full Back, centre back and what the midfield partnership will be? That’s the spine of any team. I hope Tomas hangs on for another year but he will be a year older too. We missed his inspiration and leadership yesterday.
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Post by homerj on Aug 2, 2010 21:55:15 GMT
didnt realise the ref was from the north, but my god was he simply awful from the very first minute. kerry got nothing off him when the game was there for the taking.
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Post by sullyschoice on Aug 2, 2010 22:25:36 GMT
He is from Cavan. Cavan is not in the north, it is in the republic.
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Post by KerryInDub1 on Aug 3, 2010 0:10:01 GMT
He is from Cavan. Cavan is not in the north, it is in the republic. Cavan is in Ulster, which was the point made by Jack.
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Post by animal on Aug 3, 2010 8:21:07 GMT
Like anyone else I was bitterly disappointed with alst Saturday. I would be unhappy with how the year panned out and the manner in which we left the scene. Would have preferred the two boys played of course but we'll never know if they would have made enough of a difference. It is a strange place we find ourselves today. The first time since 1999 that we do not have a semi final to look forward to. That in itself is an amazing statistic. I am grateful for the many years of entertainment given to us by this great group of men. We knew this day would come and come it did. The boys owe us nothing.
I just hope that now that we're out of the competition and all the sniping and controversy is over the rest of the country will recognise what they have achieved.
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Post by kerrygold on Aug 3, 2010 8:31:06 GMT
Dont hold your breath on that one animal.
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Post by popeye on Aug 3, 2010 8:38:10 GMT
Fairly sickened about what panned out on Saturday. We were like a dying animal being put down. No fight in the team at all the "leaders" were not there on saturday. I see alot of people here saying no need for crisis and panic buttons at the moment. A few years ago we had a lovely balanced team a solid full back centre back and a great mid field. We may still have that great centre back but he can't be expected to be filling the gaps left in front or behind him aswel. Im going to hit the panic button about our mid field problems. The basic truth is there is no mid field at the moment. Scanlon had a fine year last year no doubt about it but without the great darra at his side to take the pressure off a little Scanlon has become non-existent. Another bee on my bonnet is the lack of match winners on the bench, retirements have taken some granted but the strength in depth Kerry always say they have is not there. the bench is very weak, there good players but there not ones that wil change a game for you. Time for a bit of a shake up now i agree with people here saying that its throw the promising players in stick with them through the bad days because we know the good days will come. the young lads need game time experience look at Darra and Seamus they started out straight after minor and look what they did for kerry. Have faith in these lads they will come good.
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Post by Johnnyb on Aug 3, 2010 9:18:47 GMT
Oh what a miserable day in Croke Park.
Winning breaking ball and bursting out from defense are two massive facets of the modern game - the two best exponents of this in the country were sitting on the bench, sickening. That they largely have only themselves to blame compounds that sick feeling.
The ref, of course, was terrible - they continue to be the leading lights of the only remining hint of amatuerism in the game. But that aside, I cant but feel that Tomas and Paul on the bench cost us the game.
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Post by popeye on Aug 3, 2010 9:30:54 GMT
Oh what a miserable day in Croke Park. Winning breaking ball and bursting out from defense are two massive facets of the modern game - the two best exponents of this in the country were sitting on the bench, sickening. That they largely have only themselves to blame compounds that sick feeling. The ref, of course, was terrible - they continue to be the leading lights of the only remining hint of amatuerism in the game. But that aside, I cant but feel that Tomas and Paul on the bench cost us the game. Agree 100% with you JohnyB. But we can't help covering over the cracks that are appearing in the team. Lets say Paul and Tomas were playing and we won we would not have realised the extent of the problems at hand. Our mid field needs a review and quick. This could well be a blesing in disguise for Kerry. This wake up call could drive Kerry on now again like back in 2001.
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