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Post by mg72 on Oct 13, 2024 16:16:42 GMT
From watching on clubber, Paud O'Leary seemed to be impressive again for East Kerry.
Donal Down tried hard and was involved in a lot of good stuff, but he also lost a lot of ball by bringing it into crowded areas.
Barry Dan, Tom Leo and Matthew Flaherty were in flying form for Dingle, Tom did well at the back, but Dylan and Paul were really influential when their team needed them to be at various stages of the match.
Roll on the final. It'll be very interesting.
Hopefully it will be refereed better than the club final was between the 2 sides, and left to flow a bit more this time.
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Post by crokes86 on Oct 13, 2024 16:45:28 GMT
East Kerry were poor expected more from their forwards. Dingle played well showed hunger and were up for it. Should be a good final .
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Post by veteran on Oct 13, 2024 16:47:06 GMT
In spite of the quality of the quality of the contest in normal time I had mixed feelings about watching another twenty minutes . I just wanted to get home to be defrosted. I am getting too old for this game I fear. And of course the extra time was the least exciting part of the event because Dingle dominated. Led by the ageless Paul Geaney. As skillful and crafty as ever, at this level anyway. How appropriate it would be if this peerless footballer rounded off his career as Kerry captain.
The match during regular time was memorable , punctuated with great individual displays and scores of the first rank , both goals and points. Tom Leo’s goal was top notch after being set up by Dylan Geaney. The East Kerry goal was equally as good. Luke Crowley, much more effective today, adroitly fed DC who crashed it home. Possibly , the pick of the goals was Dingle’s second. Tom O’Sullivan, great to see him back, slalomed his way along the end line and fed the right man, PG. No mistake as one would expect.
The points were from the top drawer as well. The ace in that department was Dylan Geaney. Did he get four glorious ones from play?
For once the Clifford boys were just the supporting act, I was expecting David to tap the penalty over . He went for broke but Gavin Curran defied him with a great save. It is not the first time that goalie impressed me.
Prospects? Dylan. Geaney certainly. I hope he gets a prolonged , injury free run next season. Barry Dan can hardly be called a prospect at this stage of his career but he is a warrior and perhaps he may reconsider his apparent intention to give up the intercounty scene. Ruairi Murphy, Luke Crowley, Darragh Lyne, Paud O’Leary. I was delighted with Donal O’Sullivan today. Showed flashes of why we were excited about him twelve months ago.
Once again , we were reminded today that no team is invincible. No so long ago I was looking forward to an East Kerry/Dr. Crokes climax. Now it is all about Crokes and Dingle. I will be surprised if Dingle do not make a better fist of it than they did in the club final. Tom O’Sullivan will surely make a difference and maybe the climate will be kinder to these old bones.
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Post by ciarrai74 on Oct 13, 2024 16:59:04 GMT
What a cracking game. Congratulations to Dingle. Deserving winners on the day. I fear the 'Tabloids' will have a pop at David Clifford tomorrow after the penalty decision[had to be tapped over bar]. I suspect David will learn from it. Hopefully now the Cliffords will get a good break to recharge the mind body and soul as they look spent especially David.
Final too close too call but i'd love Dingle to win for an forum user called 'Kingdomboy'.
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Post by kerrybhoy06 on Oct 13, 2024 17:22:44 GMT
By god that was an enthralling game. Well done to dingle, I’m absolutely delighted for them.
Two club teams in the final, nature is healing
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Post by royalkerryfan on Oct 13, 2024 17:40:06 GMT
Great game especially 2nd half.
DC has been off colour all year and you can hardly blame the lad.
I know he has a job and a young family but the Co board really should be sending him and his family off to sunnier shores for a few weeks.
Delighted for Dingle.
I think they'll be beat Crokes.
That game and the return of Tom OSullivan will be a big boost to them.
If they shut down the EK forwards they can do likewise with Crokes.
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Post by pillar on Oct 13, 2024 17:45:00 GMT
What a cracking game. Congratulations to Dingle. Deserving winners on the day. I fear the 'Tabloids' will have a pop at David Clifford tomorrow after the penalty decision[had to be tapped over bar]. I suspect David will learn from it. Hopefully now the Cliffords will get a good break to recharge the mind body and soul as they look spent especially David. Final too close too call but i'd love Dingle to win for an forum user called 'Kingdomboy'. Sure they'll have to play O Donoghue Cup |
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Post by kerryexile on Oct 13, 2024 17:49:20 GMT
The Brendans approach was naive & smacked of inexperience at this level of championship football. Crokes thrive on possession & for Brendan’s to concede the kick out & not change at any stage is worrying - worrying given that James Costello & Pa McCarthy presided over & prepared in that fashion and will be in the Kerry senior set up in ‘25. Exactly my thoughts, both paragraphs. I don't know either of the 2 gentlemen but an under 16 would know that you should force Crokes to kick long when you have a midfield pairing of Joe and David and not give the ball to a team that thrives on possession against a team not used to playing together. There is a lot sitting on Aodán's shoulders for 2025. |
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Post by royalkerryfan on Oct 13, 2024 17:50:05 GMT
What a cracking game. Congratulations to Dingle. Deserving winners on the day. I fear the 'Tabloids' will have a pop at David Clifford tomorrow after the penalty decision[had to be tapped over bar]. I suspect David will learn from it. Hopefully now the Cliffords will get a good break to recharge the mind body and soul as they look spent especially David. Final too close too call but i'd love Dingle to win for an forum user called 'Kingdomboy'. Sure they'll have to play O Donoghue Cup No county players have asked if possible to not be selected for divisional championships. |
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Post by thehermit on Oct 13, 2024 18:43:51 GMT
Well I wont lie, I haven't been home in nearly six weeks for various reasons and that combined with the Cillian Burke news earlier this week had me feeling bloody depressed about everything Kerry GAA.
But what a tonic that game this afternoon was and honestly what fear should we have for Kerry football when you get to watch skill and heart and excitement like that - if anyone else has the seen the clip going around WhatsApp fromt the Clare club football game today they'll know exactly where I'm coming from!!!!
I've nothing against East Kerry at all except I'm never a fan off too much dominance and I've always had a soft spot for this Dingle side. A first title since 1948 is some piece of history to be chasing. And who would bet against them, they've been putting up huge scores and impressive performances all competition.
Really looking forward to being home for the final, will it be in Tralee or Killarney BTW?
Echo 74's thoughts, where ever our old friend Kingdomboy is I hope he's celebrating well tonight!
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Post by kerryexile on Oct 13, 2024 18:50:50 GMT
Today's game was very competitive and the right team won.
Basically the Geaneys played better than the Cliffords.
David needs a break. Playing in the EK championship won't effect him if he is allowed turn up for games and not have to get involved in all the preparation that might go on. The break he needs is more mental than physical.
I don't know if others agree but I think this has been the best Championship in years. It shows why so many recently retired players didn't want to get involved with current management. They see the era beginning 2026 as having great potential. There is a plethora of young talent coming through. In few years time the forwards will include Dylan Geaney,
Tomas Kennedy, Luke Crowley and there are many others, and David Clifford at full forward conducting the orchestra.
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Post by The16thMan on Oct 13, 2024 18:58:24 GMT
Well I wont lie, I haven't been home in nearly six weeks for various reasons and that combined with the Cillian Burke news earlier this week had me feeling bloody depressed about everything Kerry GAA. But what a tonic that game this afternoon was and honestly what fear should we have for Kerry football when you get to watch skill and heart and excitement like that - if anyone else has the seen the clip going around WhatsApp fromt the Clare club football game today they'll know exactly where I'm coming from!!!! I've nothing against East Kerry at all except I'm never a fan off too much dominance and I've always had a soft spot for this Dingle side. A first title since 1948 is some piece of history to be chasing. And who would bet against them, they've been putting up huge scores and impressive performances all competition. Really looking forward to being home for the final, will it be in Tralee or Killarney BTW? Echo 74's thoughts, where ever our old friend Kingdomboy is I hope he's celebrating well tonight! In regards the final, I would expect a 3pm throw in,in Tralee, on the 27th. Time could change to suit TG4 if the County board elect to have it shown live but if not I expect a 3pm throw in as usual for the county final. |
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Post by pillar on Oct 13, 2024 19:25:17 GMT
Sure they'll have to play O Donoghue Cup No county players have asked if possible to not be selected for divisional championships. The "if possible" part of that could be very open |
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Post by thehermit on Oct 13, 2024 19:32:29 GMT
Well I wont lie, I haven't been home in nearly six weeks for various reasons and that combined with the Cillian Burke news earlier this week had me feeling bloody depressed about everything Kerry GAA. But what a tonic that game this afternoon was and honestly what fear should we have for Kerry football when you get to watch skill and heart and excitement like that - if anyone else has the seen the clip going around WhatsApp fromt the Clare club football game today they'll know exactly where I'm coming from!!!! I've nothing against East Kerry at all except I'm never a fan off too much dominance and I've always had a soft spot for this Dingle side. A first title since 1948 is some piece of history to be chasing. And who would bet against them, they've been putting up huge scores and impressive performances all competition. Really looking forward to being home for the final, will it be in Tralee or Killarney BTW? Echo 74's thoughts, where ever our old friend Kingdomboy is I hope he's celebrating well tonight! In regards the final, I would expect a 3pm throw in,in Tralee, on the 27th. Time culd change to suit TG4 if the County board elect to have it shown live but if not I expect a 3pm throw in as usual for the county final. Oh *ee I thought it was on the 3 November for some reason??? |
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Post by mainevalley on Oct 13, 2024 19:37:12 GMT
No county players have asked if possible to not be selected for divisional championships. The "if possible" part of that could be very open Will be interesting to see if fringe/subs will play. Very open if possible. Clifford's will want to play with fossa. Like shane Ryan and Paul Murphy with rathmore |
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Post by horsebox77 on Oct 13, 2024 19:48:19 GMT
What a cracking game. Congratulations to Dingle. Deserving winners on the day. I fear the 'Tabloids' will have a pop at David Clifford tomorrow after the penalty decision[had to be tapped over bar]. I suspect David will learn from it. Hopefully now the Cliffords will get a good break to recharge the mind body and soul as they look spent especially David. Final too close too call but i'd love Dingle to win for an forum user called 'Kingdomboy'. Kingdomboy would be toasting two things this weekend, Dingle winning this county semi and Anthony Maher returning for Duagh last night in Listowel... One thing I witnessed today, showed the true mark of a man, as EK were preparing for the 45, the Dingle players, were congratulating Curran on penalty save, Dave strode in and just tapped the paw to acknowledge .. that's class in my book.. |
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Post by diego on Oct 13, 2024 20:02:16 GMT
If EK were a point up I'd say DC should have gone for a point. With the teams level I think he was right to go for the goal. Scoring a point leaves Dingle in the game with another attack and refs often gives teams looking for a point a handy free when time is running out. In any case it looked a very soft penalty so justice was done.
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Post by royalkerryfan on Oct 13, 2024 20:03:18 GMT
Based on what the county chairman said I expect no Kerry players to play in divisional championships.
And personally I hope they don't play.
Kerry players should not be playing 3 championships.
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Post by likeitornot on Oct 13, 2024 20:13:16 GMT
In spite of the quality of the quality of the contest in normal time I had mixed feelings about watching another twenty minutes . I just wanted to get home to be defrosted. I am getting too old for this game I fear. And of course the extra time was the least exciting part of the event because Dingle dominated. Led by the ageless Paul Geaney. As skillful and crafty as ever, at this level anyway. How appropriate it would be if this peerless footballer rounded off his career as Kerry captain. The match during regular time was memorable , punctuated with great individual displays and scores of the first rank , both goals and points. Tom Leo’s goal was top notch after being set up by Dylan Geaney. The East Kerry goal was equally as good. Luke Crowley, much more effective today, adroitly fed DC who crashed it home. Possibly , the pick of the goals was Dingle’s second. Tom O’Sullivan, great to see him back, slalomed his way along the end line and fed the right man, PG. No mistake as one would expect. The points were from the top drawer as well. The ace in that department was Dylan Geaney. Did he get four glorious ones from play? For once the Clifford boys were just the supporting act, I was expecting David to tap the penalty over . He went for broke but Gavin Curran defied him with a great save. It is not the first time that goalie impressed me. Prospects? Dylan. Geaney certainly. I hope he gets a prolonged , injury free run next season. Barry Dan can hardly be called a prospect at this stage of his career but he is a warrior and perhaps he may reconsider his apparent intention to give up the intercounty scene. Ruairi Murphy, Luke Crowley, Darragh Lyne, Paud O’Leary. I was delighted with Donal O’Sullivan today. Showed flashes of why we were excited about him twelve months ago. Once again , we were reminded today that no team is invincible. No so long ago I was looking forward to an East Kerry/Dr. Crokes climax. Now it is all about Crokes and Dingle. I will be surprised if Dingle do not make a better fist of it than they did in the club final. Tom O’Sullivan will surely make a difference and maybe the climate will be kinder to these old bones. Christ almighty it didnt take long for the bloody captaincy of the Kerry team nonsense to rear its head again... |
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Post by ciarraimick on Oct 13, 2024 20:21:30 GMT
If EK were a point up I'd say DC should have gone for a point. With the teams level I think he was right to go for the goal. Scoring a point leaves Dingle in the game with another attack and refs often gives teams looking for a point a handy free when time is running out. In any case it looked a very soft penalty so justice was done. Its a hard call but personally i think a point better option.A point and the chances are you win and yes they opposotion get another attack but they get a chance to win if you miss. I remember a game as a kid in Munster club championship between Austin Stacks and St Finbarrs Cork.The Barrs were up a point (if memory serves me correct) and Stacks were awarded a penalty.Twas last kick of the game and the great Mikey Sheehy stepped up.A simple point for a replay but Mikey(who was a very average gaa penalty taker) went for the goal and scored.The end result justifies his decision but for me I thought the point was the safer option. |
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Post by diego on Oct 13, 2024 20:42:48 GMT
Based on what the county chairman said I expect no Kerry players to play in divisional championships. And personally I hope they don't play. Kerry players should not be playing 3 championships. So if you were part of an intermediate or junior club, would you be happy to only see your best players for the 3 weeks in the year of the group games in the club championship and if lucky a knock out game or two. I'd be surprised if the majority of players were happy with that. Particularly those not starting for the county. |
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Post by royalkerryfan on Oct 13, 2024 21:12:17 GMT
Based on what the county chairman said I expect no Kerry players to play in divisional championships. And personally I hope they don't play. Kerry players should not be playing 3 championships. So if you were part of an intermediate or junior club, would you be happy to only see your best players for the 3 weeks in the year of the group games in the club championship and if lucky a knock out game or two. I'd be surprised if the majority of players were happy with that. Particularly those not starting for the county. I'd accept that fringe players will play. But I'd expect the regular Kerry lads to not play. Completly understand how the clubs will feel but their Gripe is with the structures where players are expected to play 3 championships. Kerry players are back in December they deserve a month away from the game and this is supported by the GPA. Watch DC today and tell me he didn't need a complete break. |
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Post by shannonsider on Oct 13, 2024 22:06:56 GMT
So if you were part of an intermediate or junior club, would you be happy to only see your best players for the 3 weeks in the year of the group games in the club championship and if lucky a knock out game or two. I'd be surprised if the majority of players were happy with that. Particularly those not starting for the county. I'd accept that fringe players will play. But I'd expect the regular Kerry lads to not play. Completly understand how the clubs will feel but their Gripe is with the structures where players are expected to play 3 championships. Kerry players are back in December they deserve a month away from the game and this is supported by the GPA. Watch DC today and tell me he didn't need a complete break. David and Paudie need a break for sure - they are probably mentally drained as much as anything. They've had very little time off since 2002 when Fossa won Premier Junior and went all the way to the All Ireland final. Not helped by the fact of course that last February when they were finally getting some time off, Jack O'Connor dragged them out of said respite up to Clones for a league game we won by 9 points. Was that really needed? More below. Go through the Kerry team that started the All Ireland semi final to Armagh and there are very few players there who definitively need to be pulled from district championship with their club in my view. Begley, Tom O'Sullivan, Diarmuid O'Connor, Jason Foley, Dara Moynihan, Paul Geaney, Tony Brosnan have all had spells off with injury or through club inactivity this year. Shane Ryan plays in goals but outfield for club, he'll be fine. Paul Murphy given his age might take a rest of needed but you'd trust him to know his body better than anyone. Joe O'Connor, Seánie, Tadhg Morley don't have a district championship to worry about but Joe will be hoping to have a Munster intermediate campaign. Paul Geaney, Tom O'Sullivan, Tony Brosnan, Gavin White - 2 of those will be playing Munster Senior club. I'd venture to say neither of their clubs are too concerned about district championships anyway. So that brings me back to the 2 buckos from Fossa. Who as I said, nobody would begrudge a rest to. But when and how long is the rest to be? Should it not be from ALL activity for a couple of months? What Jack (through the county board) is essentially saying here is that he wants players to tell their clubs they won't play with them so they can be fresh to go in to Currans and be flogged in December. I can only hope that some of those listed above at least will not let their clubs down. If any player needs a break, as the 2 boys do, then fine, give them December and January off or January and half of February. Do David or Paudie need 6 months of training to get them in the shape needed? No of course they don't. And in fact a good break may well lead to them being in far better shape down the line. But of course, no, tell them it's a district championship game in November that's going to do the damage. A load of rubbish if you ask me. Kerry could and should rotate the squad during the league to give game time to guys we need to see - and allow some of the main players to recharge and then come back into the fold half way through the league say. Dublin and Armagh have won the All Ireland now in last 2 years from Division 2 of the league. Instead of trying to win every game in February maybe we could look at that and learn something. |
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Post by homerj on Oct 13, 2024 22:14:33 GMT
Yeah the finish was so exciting. Really hope Dylan Geaney takes his chance with Kerry next season. He wasn’t given much of a chance this season!! He got a bad injury don't forget. |
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Post by thehermit on Oct 13, 2024 22:16:59 GMT
What a cracking game. Congratulations to Dingle. Deserving winners on the day. I fear the 'Tabloids' will have a pop at David Clifford tomorrow after the penalty decision[had to be tapped over bar]. I suspect David will learn from it. Hopefully now the Cliffords will get a good break to recharge the mind body and soul as they look spent especially David. Final too close too call but i'd love Dingle to win for an forum user called 'Kingdomboy'. Kingdomboy would be toasting two things this weekend, Dingle winning this county semi and Anthony Maher returning for Duagh last night in Listowel... One thing I witnessed today, showed the true mark of a man, as EK were preparing for the 45, the Dingle players, were congratulating Curran on penalty save, Dave strode in and just tapped the paw to acknowledge .. that's class in my book.. He was just being a Kerryman (person) thats why its cool we are |
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Post by edgeofthesquare on Oct 13, 2024 22:32:43 GMT
Did David not get a fairly substantial break at the end of last year/start of this year and it didn’t seem to do him much good? Something has to be done though because he hasn’t been himself since 2022. If he didn’t touch a football until the 15th of January that would be 3 months off no more excuses then. We need him back at what he was. The new 3 up rules should help him but the fact that his kicking has gone back so much is what concerns me.
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Post by royalkerryfan on Oct 13, 2024 23:09:36 GMT
I'd accept that fringe players will play. But I'd expect the regular Kerry lads to not play. Completly understand how the clubs will feel but their Gripe is with the structures where players are expected to play 3 championships. Kerry players are back in December they deserve a month away from the game and this is supported by the GPA. Watch DC today and tell me he didn't need a complete break. David and Paudie need a break for sure - they are probably mentally drained as much as anything. They've had very little time off since 2002 when Fossa won Premier Junior and went all the way to the All Ireland final. Not helped by the fact of course that last February when they were finally getting some time off, Jack O'Connor dragged them out of said respite up to Clones for a league game we won by 9 points. Was that really needed? More below. Go through the Kerry team that started the All Ireland semi final to Armagh and there are very few players there who definitively need to be pulled from district championship with their club in my view. Begley, Tom O'Sullivan, Diarmuid O'Connor, Jason Foley, Dara Moynihan, Paul Geaney, Tony Brosnan have all had spells off with injury or through club inactivity this year. Shane Ryan plays in goals but outfield for club, he'll be fine. Paul Murphy given his age might take a rest of needed but you'd trust him to know his body better than anyone. Joe O'Connor, Seánie, Tadhg Morley don't have a district championship to worry about but Joe will be hoping to have a Munster intermediate campaign. Paul Geaney, Tom O'Sullivan, Tony Brosnan, Gavin White - 2 of those will be playing Munster Senior club. I'd venture to say neither of their clubs are too concerned about district championships anyway. So that brings me back to the 2 buckos from Fossa. Who as I said, nobody would begrudge a rest to. But when and how long is the rest to be? Should it not be from ALL activity for a couple of months? What Jack (through the county board) is essentially saying here is that he wants players to tell their clubs they won't play with them so they can be fresh to go in to Currans and be flogged in December. I can only hope that some of those listed above at least will not let their clubs down. If any player needs a break, as the 2 boys do, then fine, give them December and January off or January and half of February. Do David or Paudie need 6 months of training to get them in the shape needed? No of course they don't. And in fact a good break may well lead to them being in far better shape down the line. But of course, no, tell them it's a district championship game in November that's going to do the damage. A load of rubbish if you ask me. Kerry could and should rotate the squad during the league to give game time to guys we need to see - and allow some of the main players to recharge and then come back into the fold half way through the league say. Dublin and Armagh have won the All Ireland now in last 2 years from Division 2 of the league. Instead of trying to win every game in February maybe we could look at that and learn something. Excellent post. |
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Post by ciarraimick on Oct 14, 2024 0:22:42 GMT
David is no different to other players
.Con O Callaghan in Dublin plays dual and no excuses needed.Why do we have to make excuses.When a player plays poorly so be it but no excuses.I see one poster wants David and his family to be given a free holiday because he did nt play well.Well where does that end
Does everyone get a holiday?.Why cant people understand people are alike and normal and accept sometimes we no better thàn others
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Post by blacksheep21 on Oct 14, 2024 5:52:33 GMT
This idea that all the Clifford’s and David in particular need to do is play no football for several months makes no sense to me. David’s form has dipped from a ridiculous level.
None of us really know why despite some posters seeming to believe they do.
Of course David looks fed up. He is not happy with his form. It is 3.5 months till the start of the league. There is plenty of time for him to rest up.
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Post by mack21 on Oct 14, 2024 6:14:31 GMT
Excellent post Shannonsider! Re. David and Paudie being brought on v Monaghan: In those sorts of cases the player taking a rest needs to be at home reading the Sunday papers with his feet up or on a beach somewhere...not sitting on a bus to the backass of nowhere...doing warmup and kicking his heels on a cold bench to be brought on for a few minutes to rescue a nothing game. A complete recharge necessitates a complete break! I remember Paudie C coming on v Monaghan the previous year in killarney, just after Fossa's all-Ireland, getting that wonder goal and saying to myself "why is he playing?" These are amateur players...some of the best we've ever seen...Think back to Gooch in 2006 coming on against Dublin in the league after his dad's passing. He was drained and a shadow of himself for most of the following Summer.Particularly what David has been through the last 2 years..it's the mark of the man that he is still turning up every weekend and playing so well most of the time. If he and a few others are actually properly fresh when they come back to kerry next March (hopefully not until then), we'll win the all-Ireland. Jack has obviously taken a read of a book called "The keys to the Kingdom" of late and realised what burnout is. It documents a manager of kerry who wins the all ireland, falls in helping a divisional team in the co championship and falls in then with his club to try to win the local Divisional championship! This manager has no energy or appetite shortly afterwards and his Doctor tells him to cop on and take a rest!! Funny but true! How must some of our players be energy wise at this stage??
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