Hicser
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Post by Hicser on Jun 1, 2024 9:04:46 GMT
Great players don't necessarily make great pundits. Brian O'Driscoll in another code is a very average pundit. But that is not saying anything about Ó Sés. Darragh has his stories. Tomás is competent. Don't know anything about Marc's punditry. What about O’Rourke & Brolly, any opinions there? Are we not all pundits? 🤣
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Hicser
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Post by Hicser on Jun 1, 2024 9:05:58 GMT
To be fair lads, Calling lads bluffers or that they like money is going to get a negative reaction. All pundits regardless of their county get paid and given what they gave to their county in enjoyment I think is well deserved. If you don't like someone's views don't read the articles. There is a tendency by some to always offer the alternative view. That's all fine in a debate but this is a Kerry forum and no different than the Mayo or Dublin forum it's obviously biased. Slating Ex Kerry players isint on. Spot on
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Post by kingdomofciar on Jun 1, 2024 9:54:00 GMT
All this depends on where your from and your point of view. Kerry to win the all Ireland and all will be well with the world of football.
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Post by thehermit on Jun 1, 2024 10:16:07 GMT
All this depends on where your from and your point of view. Kerry to win the all Ireland and all will be well with the world of football. As a good friend of mine is oft to say, "Yerra sure the world can burn as long as Kerry have Sam"!!
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Post by hurlingman on Jun 1, 2024 10:24:59 GMT
To be fair lads, Calling lads bluffers or that they like money is going to get a negative reaction. All pundits regardless of their county get paid and given what they gave to their county in enjoyment I think is well deserved. If you don't like someone's views don't read the articles. There is a tendency by some to always offer the alternative view. That's all fine in a debate but this is a Kerry forum and no different than the Mayo or Dublin forum it's obviously biased. Slating Ex Kerry players isint on. Just because someone is an ex Kerry player doesn't mean we all have to just agree with them. Some might think Marc is a good pundit others won't but that's people's opinion.
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Post by royalkerryfan on Jun 1, 2024 10:31:56 GMT
To be fair lads, Calling lads bluffers or that they like money is going to g et a negative reaction. All pundits regardless of their county get paid and given what they gave to their county in enjoyment I think is well deserved. If you don't like someone's views don't read the articles. There is a tendency by some to always offer the alternative view. That's all fine in a debate but this is a Kerry forum and no different than the Mayo or Dublin forum it's obviously biased. Slating Ex Kerry players isint on. Just because someone is an ex Kerry player doesn't mean we all have to just agree with them. Some might think Marc is a good pundit others won't but that's people's opinion. I never said that, I said don't read articles if you don't like the writer. However calling lads bluffers or questioning their motives is completely put of order
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Post by thegrainofrice on Jun 1, 2024 10:50:32 GMT
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Post by thegrainofrice on Jun 1, 2024 10:52:50 GMT
Many thanks for that royalkerryfan, that bus will do the job!
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Post by royalkerryfan on Jun 1, 2024 12:01:58 GMT
Ryans
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Post by hurlingman on Jun 1, 2024 12:14:17 GMT
Just because someone is an ex Kerry player doesn't mean we all have to just agree with them. Some might think Marc is a good pundit others won't but that's people's opinion. I never said that, I said don't read articles if you don't like the writer. However calling lads bluffers or questioning their motives is completely put of order What's "out of order" about it? If someone said the same thing about a non Kerry pundit would you say the same thing?
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Post by royalkerryfan on Jun 1, 2024 12:47:05 GMT
I never said that, I said don't read articles if you don't like the writer. However calling lads bluffers or questioning their motives is completely put of order What's "out of order" about it? If someone said the same thing about a non Kerry pundit would you say the same thing? Calling ex players bluffers and only interested in money insulting as far as I am concerned.
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Post by Seoirse Ui Duic on Jun 1, 2024 13:01:32 GMT
To be honest I enjoy Darragh's articles. I also enjoy Tomás' input on the telly. Marc I don't know too well, but I saw him on GAAGO last time out and I think he does well as a pundit. I am a big fan of the Gooch and always will be, but don't think he is a great pundit. Nor was Darran. I still respect them both a lot. Personally, I don't rate Paul Flynn and Sean Cavanagh at all, they are just awful pundits. I can't watch them at all. Great players, but awful pundits. Peter Canavan was okay on Sky, but doesn't exactly have the sparkling personality that Brolly or Spillane used to bring. If I'm honest I think RTE should employ a journalist with personality who can analyse the game, rather than just picking former players. That said though I was impressed with Aoife Sheehan analysing the camogie. She would be used to public speaking, is a great orator and knows the game very well.
I've decided to not go to Newgrange tomorrow as all the tickets are booked out and even though they would be willing to add me to one of the tours as an employee I wouldn't want to take the place of a genuine tourist. I've been to Newgrange many times before, so while it is very impressive I'll wait till after the season. It's about 3hours and 55 minutes from my home to Navan and I just got the diesel already, as nothing around here will be open when I leave home on Sunday morning at 8am. I will probably have a stop around Portlaoise and then do the final run to Navan and have something to eat before the game. Then drive back after the game and stop at the Portlaoise Plaza for some dinner.
Jack went with a strong team and obviously wanted to shake things up in the backs a bit. I doubt the backs will really be tested. Meath did well in the Tailteann last year, but that is probably the level they are at currently. With all Due respect to Meath they have a couple of years of rebuilding to be done until their underage teams will be at the level that the top 6 teams are at now. They will probably beat Monaghan, if they don't improve. I think Monaghan are actually still ahead of Louth and Meath at the moment. That doesn't bode well for Meath. If they hadn't won the Tailteann last year they wouldn't be in the group stages so that shows where they are now. They clearly have the players, looking at their underage success, so the conclusion has to be that the style of play O'Rourke is trying to implement doesn't suit them.
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Post by Seoirse Ui Duic on Jun 1, 2024 13:59:34 GMT
Calling ex players bluffers and only interested in money insulting as far as I am concerned. But its ok to do with players from other counties?What about ex Kerry gaa people like Chairmen?Is that ok?A poster here accused Sean Kelly of being a wolf in sheep clothing and twas all about the money?Did you think the poster was insulting?The bottom line is if you are from Kerry you cant give an opinion on an ex player unless its a highly flattering opinion. Personally I did think that post was too far. Sean Kelly is a very nice man, and a very good administrator. I don't agree with his politics and would never vote for him, but as a person I like him a lot. As chairman of Kerry and president of the GAA he has done very well in my opinion. Without him the GPA would be in a worse position. He was instrumental in introducing the Christy Ring Cup and Nicky Rackard Cup, Tommy Murphy Cup, All-Ireland Junior and Intermediate Championships. He concluded the completion of the Croke Park re-development, making it one of the best stadiums in the world, and that is no overexaggeration, and facilitated the building of the Croke Park Hotel. He is the former president of Belgium GAA and still honorary president and led Belgium GAA to rule the European competitions. The facilities in Belgium are top class now. The honours list shows how well Belgium has done under Kelly's stewardship. European Ladies Football Champions: 2001, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012, 2013, 2014, 2015, 2016, 2017, 2019 & 2022 European Camogie Champions: 2010, 2011, 2013, 2014, 2015, 2016, 2017, 2018, 2019 & 2022 European Hurling Champions: 2009, 2010, 2013, 2014, 2015, 2016, 2018 & 2019 European Football Champions: 2008, 2012 & 2014.
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Post by Seoirse Ui Duic on Jun 1, 2024 15:06:51 GMT
Thanks Mick. I do feel a lot better and hope to return to work on Tuesday. I'm not one to sit still so getting bored already. Kelly indeed was instrumental in making sure Croke Park was opened to soccer and rugby. I have to admit I still don't get why rugby couldn't have been played in Thomond Park instead, but the FAI of course have no other stadiums of the standard required. If I'm not mistaken they are still paying for the new Lansdowne road, or haven't repaid their share of the debt. I was working as a steward in Croke Park at the time and I was there the day that Ireland hammered England. The atmosphere was really tense leading up to the anthems and you could just feel everyone was afraid it would all go wrong. I'm sure Kelly would have been very, very nervous that day. I'm glad it all worked out so well. Kelly was a man with a vision, and in my opinion, one of the better presidents the GAA has had.
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Post by royalkerryfan on Jun 1, 2024 15:35:48 GMT
Calling ex players bluffers and only interested in money insulting as far as I am concerned. But its ok to do with players from other counties?What about ex Kerry gaa people like Chairmen?Is that ok?A poster here accused Sean Kelly of being a wolf in sheep clothing and twas all about the money?Did you think the poster was insulting?The bottom line is if you are from Kerry you cant give an opinion on an ex player unless its a highly flattering opinion. The comments about Sean were wrong and shouldn't have been made. As regards others i don't care. This is Kerry and a Kerry forum. I've been more critical than most. You can be critical without insulting men that gave blood sweat and tears for us.
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Post by ballyf1984 on Jun 1, 2024 17:47:43 GMT
How do they play the game to suit? Because they think Dublin are good? Dublin are good!!! 🤯 Agree of course Dublin are good.In fact they were brilliant but my point is the 3 brothers went overboard with their praise of Dublin.O Rourke and Brolly in particular idolised Dublin and I can see why but if they erred or a player did something wrong the called it.The 3 brothers made excuses for it.I dont read their articles unless its posted.Now I thought the 3 were fantastic players and great servants of Kerry football.If I was picking my best Kerry 15 that I saw play all 3 would be on it.However I dont think their punditry is tainted especially when discussing Dublin.Of course we all cherish our heroes but that does nt mean we have to agree with them.There arw people from every county that can call out a player for dirty play but when they player is from their own county they make excuses.Im entitled to my opinion on the 3 brothers and it is ad follows -Brilliant footballers and bluffer pundits.P.s.I used to buy the Indo newspaper but have nt bought it since they took on a certain ex Dub footballer as a scribe.I have alot of respect for most of the Dublin team but not him.Again thats just my opinion. Show me where the three of them went over board with their praise??? Seriously like. Silly talk. Judging on time it was posted I’m not surprised. Entitled to your opinions but when it’s not backed up back off. Every pundit in the country has lavished praise on Dublin and many other teams when deserved. I don’t know the three lads. Darragh’s articles are interesting and humorous. Don’t think he puts himself out there. Don’t see or hear Marc and Tomás is fair and balanced on tv. Each to their own. Would love mute button on here for accounts!!!
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Post by Seoirse Ui Duic on Jun 1, 2024 18:43:06 GMT
I was just looking at old memories and 5 years ago we played Clare on this day in the Munster semi-final. Teams would peak a lot later in the year and that takes a bit of time to adjust to. Kerry have always been a summer team, it's when the skills come out, and the teams who just work very hard are found out. Interesting to see how much the team has changed in 5 years.
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Post by thehermit on Jun 1, 2024 18:59:26 GMT
Royal as you're the local what exact carpark place would you recommend for tomorrow? I know not to go near the ground itself. Will be going up the M3 from Dublin
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Post by royalkerryfan on Jun 1, 2024 19:31:52 GMT
Royal as you're the local what exact carpark place would you recommend for tomorrow? I know not to go near the ground itself. Will be going up the M3 from Dublin As soon as you hit Navan, Park on any on street parking and point the car to Dublin. Navan is not big so a a ten minute walk is worth it.
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Post by thehermit on Jun 1, 2024 20:01:44 GMT
Sound man
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Post by Annascaultilidie on Jun 1, 2024 20:27:55 GMT
Agree of course Dublin are good.In fact they were brilliant but my point is the 3 brothers went overboard with their praise of Dublin.O Rourke and Brolly in particular idolised Dublin and I can see why but if they erred or a player did something wrong the called it.The 3 brothers made excuses for it.I dont read their articles unless its posted.Now I thought the 3 were fantastic players and great servants of Kerry football.If I was picking my best Kerry 15 that I saw play all 3 would be on it.However I dont think their punditry is tainted especially when discussing Dublin.Of course we all cherish our heroes but that does nt mean we have to agree with them.There arw people from every county that can call out a player for dirty play but when they player is from their own county they make excuses.Im entitled to my opinion on the 3 brothers and it is ad follows -Brilliant footballers and bluffer pundits.P.s.I used to buy the Indo newspaper but have nt bought it since they took on a certain ex Dub footballer as a scribe.I have alot of respect for most of the Dublin team but not him.Again thats just my opinion. Show me where the three of them went over board with their praise??? Seriously like. Silly talk. Judging on time it was posted I’m not surprised. Entitled to your opinions but when it’s not backed up back off. Every pundit in the country has lavished praise on Dublin and many other teams when deserved. I don’t know the three lads. Darragh’s articles are interesting and humorous. Don’t think he puts himself out there. Don’t see or hear Marc and Tomás is fair and balanced on tv. Each to their own. Would love mute button on here for accounts!!! It is possible to mute accounts. I think if you press desktop down the bottom and click into a profile you will see the option.
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Post by ballyf1984 on Jun 1, 2024 20:44:56 GMT
Show me where the three of them went over board with their praise??? Seriously like. Silly talk. Judging on time it was posted I’m not surprised. Entitled to your opinions but when it’s not backed up back off. Every pundit in the country has lavished praise on Dublin and many other teams when deserved. I don’t know the three lads. Darragh’s articles are interesting and humorous. Don’t think he puts himself out there. Don’t see or hear Marc and Tomás is fair and balanced on tv. Each to their own. Would love mute button on here for accounts!!! And yet you are responding.You obviously have nt heard them too much.Google will give you info. 😆😆Only one bluffer here!!!!!
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Post by thehermit on Jun 1, 2024 21:16:31 GMT
Show me where the three of them went over board with their praise??? Seriously like. Silly talk. Judging on time it was posted I’m not surprised. Entitled to your opinions but when it’s not backed up back off. Every pundit in the country has lavished praise on Dublin and many other teams when deserved. I don’t know the three lads. Darragh’s articles are interesting and humorous. Don’t think he puts himself out there. Don’t see or hear Marc and Tomás is fair and balanced on tv. Each to their own. Would love mute button on here for accounts!!! It is possible to mute accounts. I think if you press desktop down the bottom and click into a profile you will see the option. Yeah easy to do, muted just the one fella on here (no prizes for guessing who 🤣) - did it the first day I landed. It's made the forum a joy
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Post by ballyf1984 on Jun 1, 2024 21:41:37 GMT
It is possible to mute accounts. I think if you press desktop down the bottom and click into a profile you will see the option. Yeah easy to do, muted just the one fella on here (no prizes for guessing who 🤣) - did it the first day I landed. It's made the forum a joy 😂👏🏼
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Post by ballyf1984 on Jun 1, 2024 21:44:11 GMT
Best of luck to the Kerry team tomorrow. I have no doubt they will give us all a good day out. Safe travels. Ciarraí Abú!!!
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Post by exiled on Jun 1, 2024 23:54:01 GMT
Fact.. Sean Kelly as President oversaw the Dubs funding. He is responsible for the massive funding for Dublin. He is similar to a poster here in his support for the Dubs and his total disregard for a family of real Kerry gaa men.
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Post by Seoirse Ui Duic on Jun 2, 2024 7:19:01 GMT
Fact.. Sean Kelly as President oversaw the Dubs funding. He is responsible for the massive funding for Dublin. He is similar to a poster here in his support for the Dubs and his total disregard for a family of real Kerry gaa men. I was living in Dublin at the time and the funding was badly needed. The GAA was non existent in Dublin. Even in Ballyboden, now apparently one of the biggest clubs in the world, there was little interest in gaelic games. The GAA needs Dublin unfortunately, but the funding model is badly in need of a review for the last 10 years.
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Post by hurlingman on Jun 2, 2024 7:23:17 GMT
What's "out of order" about it? If someone said the same thing about a non Kerry pundit would you say the same thing? Calling ex players bluffers and only interested in money insulting as far as I am concerned. It's hardly for the good of their health they're doing it now is it?
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Post by hurlingman on Jun 2, 2024 7:25:30 GMT
Calling ex players bluffers and only interested in money insulting as far as I am concerned. But its ok to do with players from other counties?What about ex Kerry gaa people like Chairmen?Is that ok?A poster here accused Sean Kelly of being a wolf in sheep clothing and twas all about the money?Did you think the poster was insulting?The bottom line is if you are from Kerry you cant give an opinion on an ex player unless its a highly flattering opinion. It's not just ex players it's similar with current players. I know no one goes out to have a poor game but some on here will lead you to believe no Kerry players ever have an off day.
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Post by royalkerryfan on Jun 2, 2024 8:26:48 GMT
Calling ex players bluffers and only interested in money insulting as far as I am concerned. It's hardly for the good of their health they're doing it now is it? Why don't you go back and read what I said. Ofcourse they get paid. Stating someone is only interested in the money infers they don't really care and only do it for the money. It's clearly a dig at the OSès and below the belt inmy view. Anyway it's a lovely Sunday and I'm not wasting anymore time with this juvenile debate.
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