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Post by dc84 on May 8, 2024 11:17:43 GMT
We do tend to get a bit worked up at times the national media is harsh on us aswell.i heard on a pod recently about how Derry have a better squad etc this year after getting bate out there own gate by donegal a couple of weeks ago ! If kerry were beaten by 6 pts at home by anyone concededing 4 goals there would be some noise. On derry aswell I could easily see them losing to galway and ending up in a sticky situation playing do or die week on week.
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Post by homerj on May 8, 2024 11:24:01 GMT
the only thing about Derry, is they conceded 3 goals due to Keeper being caught out of position. fair play to Donegal for doing it, but reality is that was a once off game and Derry are far better than that.
that wont happen again.
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Post by The16thMan on May 8, 2024 12:20:17 GMT
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I've seen online that the 3 game pack for Sam Maguire group games for €50 will also apply to season ticket holders. So any season ticket holders who intend on going to all games maybe hold tough on buying Monaghan tickets.
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Post by Annascaultilidie on May 8, 2024 12:39:40 GMT
It's Kerry. It's the All Ireland or nowhere.
But if we don't get there, I like to think I don't throw my toys out of the pram. But I do get sad.
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Post by thehermit on May 8, 2024 12:42:34 GMT
Well now after a few days remove from landing an 85th Munster title its still hard to read the summer's tealeaves.
Of course we are hyper critical of our teams, we are animals and we are Kerry - mediocrity is not tolerated and nor should it ever be, do we want to become the likes of Mayo and their fetishizing of constant failure?
No fear of that!
I of course understand some posters point of view, nothing to be gained shooting the lights out against Cork and Clare, judge Kerry in July not March etc etc. Still there's no getting away from the fact we are still waiting on a statement performance. I listened with interest to Didi Hamman's analysis of Dortmund's great victory in Paris last night. He said PSG last week and again in the first half last night looked like a side who were content to feel themselves into the contest, confident that went they really needed to they could switch it on and see off their German adversary. That did not happen and Hamman rightly observed that no team cannot simply 'turn it on' when they need it out of the blue.
I couldn't help thing of Kerry's current form line as he talked. The League is the League and we performed grand EXCEPT for one game, a game that mattered, in Dublin's backyard, coming off the back of being pipped to the post by them last July. What happened? We got spanked unceremoniously. Do not pee down my back and tell me its raining (i.e that that was the intended outcome or a result of no concern to the management, players and supporters given the nature of it). That performance and result has shaken mine, and a lot of others confidence, in what this year might hold. Since then Kerry have shown nothing to say that night was an aberration, arguably their performances are leaning towards it being a harbinger of a grim summer. Midfield remains a concern, one Croke Park will magnify experientially. Clare ran through us as our defence seemed at 6s and 7s and times, as it did against Cork, as it most certainly was in Croke Park last February. If Clare can do that to us, what injury will the bigger beasts roaming the plains of HQ inflict?
So far this year I'm still waiting on a proper 'hold on boyos we're still to be reckoned with' performance from our team. We all remember the clouds of despondency clinging around Kerry a decade ago. Well our performance in blowing Cork out of the water in the last game in the old PUC convinced me that team had what it took to go the distance. Last year, despite all the underwhelming displays, what we produced against Louth and then against Tyrone was enough to satisfy me on a given day we'll beat anyone.
Its early yet in the year of course and perhaps myself and others still haven't adjusted to the reality that a Munster campaign in May is very different from one in June/July.
But until we see Kerry play to their potential and blow someone decent away, serious questions will remain about whether this can be our year again.
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Post by thehermit on May 8, 2024 13:28:01 GMT
*** IMPORTANT *** I've seen online that the 3 game pack for Sam Maguire group games for €50 will also apply to season ticket holders. So any season ticket holders who intend on going to all games maybe hold tough on buying Monaghan tickets. I've just seen that and I'm interested in getting it. Can't figure out where you'll be in Killarney if you buy it though - is it a stand or terrace ticket. When I go to purchase it it says 'Section ST' - does that mean Standard Terrace?
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Post by clarinman on May 8, 2024 14:18:04 GMT
*** IMPORTANT *** I've seen online that the 3 game pack for Sam Maguire group games for €50 will also apply to season ticket holders. So any season ticket holders who intend on going to all games maybe hold tough on buying Monaghan tickets. I've just seen that and I'm interested in getting it. Can't figure out where you'll be in Killarney if you buy it though - is it a stand or terrace ticket. When I go to purchase it it says 'Section ST' - does that mean Standard Terrace? I think the ST is for Season Ticket. I can't find any info on what section the tickets are in.
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Post by royalkerryfan on May 8, 2024 15:39:55 GMT
Listening to the RTE pod Eamonn Fitz said the feeling in Kerry is that supporters are a little underwhelmed.
He thinks Kerry have gears left and he is optimistic.
I've great time for Eamonn Fitz and I'll take a leaf out of his book.
Really looking forward to hitting the road Sat week.
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Post by The16thMan on May 8, 2024 18:11:39 GMT
*** IMPORTANT *** I've seen online that the 3 game pack for Sam Maguire group games for €50 will also apply to season ticket holders. So any season ticket holders who intend on going to all games maybe hold tough on buying Monaghan tickets. I've just seen that and I'm interested in getting it. Can't figure out where you'll be in Killarney if you buy it though - is it a stand or terrace ticket. When I go to purchase it it says 'Section ST' - does that mean Standard Terrace? I think its general admission, just like the league games. Dont think a big crowd is expected.
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Post by thehermit on May 8, 2024 20:01:05 GMT
That makes sense, in fairness works out atv€16-17 per game which isn't bad value in this day and age assuming you'll be at all of them - and what else would most of us be doing!
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Post by The16thMan on May 8, 2024 21:10:42 GMT
That makes sense, in fairness works out atv€16-17 per game which isn't bad value in this day and age assuming you'll be at all of them - and what else would most of us be doing! Yes it actually works out cheaper than league games as they were €20 in. Hopefully it encourages more people to go as this offer is available to everyone not just season ticket holders.
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Post by homerj on May 9, 2024 9:22:54 GMT
so top 4 group winners go into 1/4 finals then 2nd v 3rd play off.
hopefully we are one of the group winners. are the semis set then or is it a completely random draw?
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Post by royalkerryfan on May 9, 2024 10:45:17 GMT
so top 4 group winners go into 1/4 finals then 2nd v 3rd play off. hopefully we are one of the group winners. are the semis set then or is it a completely random draw? As far as I know semi finals are set already and its Munster winners v Connaught winners or whoever beats the provincial winners. That's changed this year to an open draw i believe.
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Post by thehermit on May 9, 2024 10:54:23 GMT
Got my €50 group stage ticket anyway, great value in fairness and I won't have far to travel to get to Navan and, I assume, Portlaoise. Not sure about taking the Dublin Kerry association bus to Navan this time though! There were some 'characters' down the back of it when I went with them to the Super 8 game in Navan in 2019 - locals none too friendly either that day
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Post by The16thMan on May 9, 2024 12:50:28 GMT
That's changed this year to an open draw i believe. Oh thanks Royal.I was nt aware of this. Ya would be too hard to schedule semis especially when provincial winners aren't guaranteed a QF place anymore.
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Post by clarinman on May 9, 2024 13:16:11 GMT
That's changed this year to an open draw i believe. Oh thanks Royal.I was nt aware of this. This is from section 6.12 of the GAA Official Guide Part 1 (2024) (iii) All-Ireland Preliminary Quarter-Finals The four second-placed teams from Round 1 shall be drawn to play at home against the four third-placed teams, subject in the first instance to the avoidance of repeat Provincial Final pairings and where possible repeat pairings from Round 1. (iv) All-Ireland Quarter-Finals The four first-placed teams from Round 1 shall be drawn to play against the four Preliminary Quarter-Finals winners, subject in the first instance to the avoidance of repeat Provincial Final pairings and where possible repeat pairings from Round 1. (v) All-Ireland Semi-Finals The four quarter-final winners shall play against each other in the Semi-Final based on a draw, subject to the avoidance of repeat pairings from the championship, where possible.
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Post by southward on May 9, 2024 19:29:21 GMT
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Post by bishop on May 9, 2024 22:45:36 GMT
Anyone hear Ronan Buckley has left the panel too?
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Post by chicago09 on May 10, 2024 1:06:45 GMT
Anyone hear Ronan Buckley has left the panel too? yeah noticed that alright he wasn’t on subs for Clare game think he played for his club in the county league
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Post by horsebox77 on May 10, 2024 6:37:18 GMT
Anyone hear Ronan Buckley has left the panel too? yeah noticed that alright he wasn’t on subs for Clare game think he played for his club in the county league NO offense to either player, but neither would be a starter or a game changer off the bench. The NA Gaeil man is made of glass, whereas Buckley is right to concentrate and enjoy his club ball
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Post by royalkerryfan on May 10, 2024 7:43:00 GMT
yeah noticed that alright he wasn’t on subs for Clare game think he played for his club in the county league NO offense to either player, but neither would be a starter or a game changer off the bench. The NA Gaeil man is made of glass, whereas Buckley is right to concentrate and enjoy his club ball Thats 2 decent players who have left the panel this season. I honestly don't think that reflects that well. I understand the commitment that is involved but I don't think its great seeing these lads leave. Especially with a weak group those lads would surely have got a game. As for Stefan well at this point he needs to concentrate on the club and getting his body right but my god he must be the most unfortunate lad to wear a Kerry jersey injury wise.
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Post by homerj on May 10, 2024 8:04:11 GMT
NO offense to either player, but neither would be a starter or a game changer off the bench. The NA Gaeil man is made of glass, whereas Buckley is right to concentrate and enjoy his club ball Thats 2 decent players who have left the panel this season. I honestly don't think that reflects that well. I understand the commitment that is involved but I don't think its great seeing these lads leave. Especially with a weak group those lads would surely have got a game. a weak group? lads leaving panel happens in every county, ever year - lads arent getting game time and they want to play, it normal. not sure how or why thats a reflection on anything other than the players themselves.
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Post by royalkerryfan on May 10, 2024 8:22:00 GMT
Thats 2 decent players who have left the panel this season. I honestly don't think that reflects that well. I understand the commitment that is involved but I don't think its great seeing these lads leave. Especially with a weak group those lads would surely have got a game. a weak group? lads leaving panel happens in every county, ever year - lads arent getting game time and they want to play, it normal. not sure how or why thats a reflection on anything other than the players themselves. It's a weak group Homer. A team relegated from D1 and Meath and Louth. Let's not pretend it's anything else. Players do leave panels and it isint great if anything it takes away from training etc.
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Post by pipsqueak01 on May 10, 2024 8:53:47 GMT
a weak group? lads leaving panel happens in every county, ever year - lads arent getting game time and they want to play, it normal. not sure how or why thats a reflection on anything other than the players themselves. It's a weak group Homer. A team relegated from D1 and Meath and Louth. Let's not pretend it's anything else. Players do leave panels and it isint great if anything it takes away from training etc. It read as a weak group of players but get your drift now
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Post by royalkerryfan on May 10, 2024 9:01:14 GMT
It's a weak group Homer. A team relegated from D1 and Meath and Louth. Let's not pretend it's anything else. Players do leave panels and it isint great if anything it takes away from training etc. It read as a weak group of players but get your drift now Ahhh lads my apologies I meant our group for the all ireland series. I understand the confusion. I'd never refer to a Kerry team like that.
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Post by tpo on May 10, 2024 9:09:21 GMT
I was in Clones for league match and we were run ragged for first 20 minutes, any of 3 half forwards could have been taken off, they took off Ronan and in came David, and it all changed
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Post by dc84 on May 10, 2024 9:11:18 GMT
Lads leaving panels is perfectly understandable especially if they aren't getting game time and long term will benefit them. Being extended panel members is largely a waste of time unless they are just out of the 20s. Much better off playing games with their clubs
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Post by royalkerryfan on May 10, 2024 9:17:53 GMT
Lads leaving panels is perfectly understandable especially if they aren't getting game time and long term will benefit them. Being extended panel members is largely a waste of time unless they are just out of the 20s. Much better off playing games with their clubs I disagree, Those lads would only benefit the A v B games in Killarney. A lad like Buckley or Burns would atleast make you fight for your spot. Would Buckley or Burns start for Meath or Louth ? They 100% would. So having them in the squad only makes Kerry stronger and them not there makes us weaker.
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Post by homerj on May 10, 2024 9:25:53 GMT
It's a weak group Homer. A team relegated from D1 and Meath and Louth. Let's not pretend it's anything else. Players do leave panels and it isint great if anything it takes away from training etc. It read as a weak group of players but get your drift now so did i!
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Post by edgeofthesquare on May 10, 2024 10:04:39 GMT
Even if the group is weak it doesn’t mean players well down the pecking order are going to see game time. Ronan Buckley I don’t think gets into last Sunday’s 26. No point giving game time to players who aren’t a real option for the business end. We’ve around 23 who could hope to be apart of the 20 on the big days, that’s loads to share game time around to in the group.
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