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Post by veteran on Jun 5, 2024 9:09:45 GMT
Seventy four people at the Longford/Waterford match? Presumably , the football followers of those counties feel the Tailtean Cup is beneath them. It is not too long ago when counties like these were clamouring for a secondary competition. It sure is difficult to please some people.
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Post by southward on Jun 5, 2024 9:22:27 GMT
Seventy four people at the Longford/Waterford match? Presumably , the football followers of those counties feel the Tailtean Cup is beneath them. It is not too long ago when counties like these were clamouring for a secondary competition. It sure is difficult to please some people. You'd imagine a number of these would have been locals wandering in. How many supporters actually travelled? - I'd guess maybe 40 from Longford and 10 from Waterford. At 4-12 to 1-16, they got value for it anyway. |
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Post by horsebox77 on Jun 5, 2024 9:44:44 GMT
Seventy four people at the Longford/Waterford match? Presumably , the football followers of those counties feel the Tailtean Cup is beneath them. It is not too long ago when counties like these were clamouring for a secondary competition. It sure is difficult to please some people. Jez, if the thirty players' parents alone attended, that would be sixty.... there would be more at a decent division 4 County League Game. Will the powers at be take any notice.... I sadly doubt it. |
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Post by veteran on Jun 5, 2024 10:20:35 GMT
Seventy four people at the Longford/Waterford match? Presumably , the football followers of those counties feel the Tailtean Cup is beneath them. It is not too long ago when counties like these were clamouring for a secondary competition. It sure is difficult to please some people. Jez, if the thirty players' parents alone attended, that would be sixty.... there would be more at a decent division 4 County League Game. Will the powers at be take any notice.... I sadly doubt it. It is not too long ago since there was a cry from the rooftops for a secondary football competition. This competition was devised . After that it was up to the competing counties. If those counties are still not interested I am not sure what the GAA can so. There are times when I feel if The Lord himself came down to implement formats/structures in the GAA we would still have disgruntled cohorts of people. Perhaps , if some of these counties looked within and rolled up their sleeves at the youth level their fortunes might change . Money, spent wisely, of course is a boon but self help should not be underestimated. To paraphrase JFK, ask not what others can do for you but rather what you can do for yourself. |
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Post by givehimaball on Jun 5, 2024 10:59:34 GMT
The Tailteann Cup on it's own wasn't going to magically make counties successful.
Also this was a match, where because of previous results, was overwhelmingly likely to be meaningess in terms of progressing from the group - both sides were on zero points from their previous 2 games and had a score difference of Longford -21 and Waterford -29 so whoever won was strong odds to be eliminated as the worst 3rd placed team.
However this year Waterford played 5 games after the league and won 2 games (when was the last time Waterford won 2 games after the league ?) Their win over Tipperary was their first championship win in 14 years and their first championship win of any type since 2018.
I doubt you'd find any pro-football individual in Waterford who would argue that the Tailteann Cup isn't a massive improvement over the previous structures.
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Post by Ballydonoghoor on Jun 5, 2024 12:06:42 GMT
Im not anyway.If Derry get over Westmeath,then they will have McKinless back and if they clear up a few injuries they could still be a very dangerous team and knockout a major team yet. I am, They are a shambles and the rumours flying around aren't great. They got fortunate with the game in Newry but Westmeath will be well up for it. They've lost 3 times and really that's a joke that they are still in the championship. All is not well in that camp. South Derry is the stronghold and you have that healthy local GAA club rivalry that you have in every county, even our own - this is the cornerstone of the GAA, the opposite of which is players having no connection with their jersey, well other they are paid to wear it. That local GAA connection is powerful, electric - shocking, that's why we love it, bating the barney out of the neighbour and the closer the neighbour the more you want to bate out of him and the more often! Ballyfireside Quote of the day - I support two teams, Kerry and the team playing against .. well it used to be the rebels!
P.S. That isn't entirely original - I first saw it on a Derry car window on my way to Ballybofey - 'I support two teams, Derry and whoever is playing against Tyrone', and the defiant Derry head of the pilot leaving you in no doubt but that he absolutely meant it, they'd make our own latchikos look like altar boys - ah great crack, the slagging would be awesome, worth the ticket money alone! In that same vein I met a posh enough extended Armagh family at one of our encounters with Tyrone and who my own partner in crime remarked might supply you with any colour of fuel you'd want, though they were top class. Anyway I made a comment that they were here to support their neighbours - I think it was the granny who corrected me though it was clear they wouldn't be supporting us either, them and their fleet of SUVs and no shame in 'em - business is business! |
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Post by Annascaultilidie on Jun 9, 2024 1:09:58 GMT
Up Kerry, come on Kerry, come on
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Post by legendz on Jun 13, 2024 20:04:32 GMT
The Examiner is reporting that the old Kerry SFC format of 16 with a winners and losers second round is likely to be the next change with the group stage scrapped. Possibly a sensible move and hopefully an end to the ongoing tinkering.
Derry and Roscommon will probably make the most of their fourth opportunity for a championship win to get through to the knockout stages. Monaghan should get through as well. Can't see Clare beating Donegal. Tyrone v Cork will decide 1st, 2nd and 3rd there.
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Post by royalkerryfan on Jun 13, 2024 20:11:49 GMT
Fancy Cork to beat Tyrone.
Huge Cork support with the double header.
Who would have thought Cork would potentially top that group.
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Post by dano on Jun 13, 2024 22:54:36 GMT
I Hope they do. Two Ulster scalps in the group would be great for their (Cork's) confidence and the reputation of Munster football.Ultimately good for Kerry as History has proven.
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Post by royalkerryfan on Jun 15, 2024 14:42:59 GMT
Really good game Cork v Tyrone.
Cork 1 up at HT and wasteful.
No Brian Hurley either.
O Mahony is just like his uncle.
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Post by horsebox77 on Jun 15, 2024 15:24:44 GMT
Really good game Cork v Tyrone. Cork 1 up at HT and wasteful. No Brian Hurley either. O Mahony is just like his uncle. Ya entertaining game.. But what has happened them in second half... being outscored 1-03 to 0-02 so far. ..Cork have gone from having one hand on first place to ending up third... |
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Post by thehermit on Jun 15, 2024 16:37:00 GMT
Cork beaten fairly easily in the end...
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Post by Annascaultilidie on Jun 15, 2024 17:06:49 GMT
Clare ruining the burgeoning reputation of Munster football today..
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Post by mack21 on Jun 15, 2024 19:46:06 GMT
Just watching Derry beat Westmeath. Bearing in mind the furore about the referee running across the goalie's eyeline during a penalty in a hurling match recently: I wonder has anyone else got a bee in their bonnet like I have about the position one of the linesman is taking up at 45s? Standing in the eyeline of and right on top of the kicker...What is that about? As far as I can see totally putting off the kicker. Over-zealous and ridiculous over-officiating. A plethora of overcarrying and thrown handpasses throughout the match which are ignored and this eejitry at 2 Westmeath 45s in what was a tight game...Mad stuff!!
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Post by legendz on Jun 16, 2024 18:34:05 GMT
The preliminary draw will take place tomorrow morning.
Galway v Roscommon, Cork or Monaghan
Mayo v Derry, Cork or Monaghan
Tyrone v Derry, Roscommon or Monaghan
Louth v Derry, Roscommon or Cork
Galway should get through. Everyone will possibly want to avoid Derry even though they haven't been great. There could still be a sting in their tail.
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Post by Annascaultilidie on Jun 16, 2024 18:39:01 GMT
The preliminary draw will take place tomorrow morning. Galway v Roscommon, Cork or Monaghan Mayo v Derry, Cork or Monaghan Tyrone v Derry, Roscommon or Monaghan Louth v Derry, Roscommon or Cork Galway should get through. Everyone will possibly want to avoid Derry even though they haven't been great. There could still be a sting in their tail. Derry are very much a busted flush at this stage. |
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Post by Sons of Pitches on Jun 16, 2024 18:49:28 GMT
The preliminary draw will take place tomorrow morning. Galway v Roscommon, Cork or Monaghan Mayo v Derry, Cork or Monaghan Tyrone v Derry, Roscommon or Monaghan Louth v Derry, Roscommon or Cork Galway should get through. Everyone will possibly want to avoid Derry even though they haven't been great. There could still be a sting in their tail. Derry are very much a busted flush at this stage. Same thing was said about us in 2009. |
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Post by Annascaultilidie on Jun 16, 2024 19:33:56 GMT
Derry are very much a busted flush at this stage. Same thing was said about us in 2009. As someone said on a podcast this week, that Kerry team had been in the previous five All-Ireland finals, winning three. But I take your point. |
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Post by royalkerryfan on Jun 16, 2024 19:39:06 GMT
Same thing was said about us in 2009. As someone said on a podcast this week, that Kerry team had been in the previous five All-Ireland finals, winning three. But I take your point. And that point on the football pod was spot on. Those Kerry players in 09 had played in the previous 5 all ireland finals. This Derry team are not in the slightest way comparable. You'd be sick if they knocked you out after them losing 3 games so far. |
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Post by mike70 on Jun 17, 2024 5:27:52 GMT
Should be an interesting draw this morning, I think any of the homecdrawctesmscwould fest none of the away teams, who would you rather draw.
Derry
Cork
Monaghan
Roscommon
I take Louth.
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Post by john4 on Jun 17, 2024 8:17:08 GMT
Either Mayo or Derry will not make the QF.
Getting spicy now
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Post by glengael on Jun 17, 2024 8:18:32 GMT
Galway v Monaghan
Louth v Cork
Mayo v Derry
Tyrone v Roscommon.
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Post by dc84 on Jun 17, 2024 8:48:01 GMT
Galway v Monaghan Louth v Cork Mayo v Derry Tyrone v Roscommon. I'd fancy 3 home teams and Cork (although they don't travel well). For me realistically we will be playing tyrone,mayo or galway not sure if we can get cork again. That focuses the minds I'm sure! Any of those three are capable of beating us particularly the connacht teams . I assume these will be played in a near empty croke park like last year I just can't understand that mentality the dunlin mayo game only attracted 18k but was a great atmosphere more of that thinking please |
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Post by Jo90 on Jun 17, 2024 10:09:35 GMT
Galway v Monaghan Louth v Cork Mayo v Derry Tyrone v Roscommon. I'd fancy 3 home teams and Cork (although they don't travel well). For me realistically we will be playing tyrone,mayo or galway not sure if we can get cork again. That focuses the minds I'm sure! Any of those three are capable of beating us particularly the connacht teams . I assume these will be played in a near empty croke park like last year I just can't understand that mentality the dunlin mayo game only attracted 18k but was a great atmosphere more of that thinking please Can get Cork. Only teams we can't get are Monaghan and Louth. It's just Provincial final pairings that are avoided, not earlier provincial games. In fact, the only potential repeat provincial pairing they need to look out for in the draw is Dublin-Louth as Galway and Mayo finished 2nd and Armagh and Donegal finished 1st so can't meet until semis. |
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Post by sambo on Jun 17, 2024 10:22:32 GMT
Is the semi final an open draw or is it still based on the old provincial rotation system?
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Post by clarinman on Jun 17, 2024 10:34:01 GMT
Is the semi final an open draw or is it still based on the old provincial rotation system? Open draw this year. |
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Post by kot on Jun 17, 2024 11:02:26 GMT
Well a 2nd year of this dreadful format behind us and I hope we don't see a third. How many good games did we get out of it? 24 matches. What good did the hidings Clare and Meath got do for them? Roscommon won their first match in 4 months and are into preliminary quater final!! Monaghan won their first since beating Dublin the first day out in the league and are through.
The jeopardy they wanted from this thing, fair to say that only Mayo & Dublin would have got anyone up out of their chair yesterday! Galway & Armagh was close at the end but was a putrid affair and but for Galway's mistakes it would have been a procession. All the rest of the games....
They seriously need to have a think about the product they want to put on offer, not just with this rules committee but this broken format and being held hostage by provincial councils.
Thats my rant for a Monday anyway done.
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Post by mike70 on Jun 17, 2024 12:24:42 GMT
Well a 2nd year of this dreadful format behind us and I hope we don't see a third. How many good games did we get out of it? 24 matches. What good did the hidings Clare and Meath got do for them? Roscommon won their first match in 4 months and are into preliminary quater final!! Monaghan won their first since beating Dublin the first day out in the league and are through. The jeopardy they wanted from this thing, fair to say that only Mayo & Dublin would have got anyone up out of their chair yesterday! Galway & Armagh was close at the end but was a putrid affair and but for Galway's mistakes it would have been a procession. All the rest of the games.... They seriously need to have a think about the product they want to put on offer, not just with this rules committee but this broken format and being held hostage by provincial councils. Thats my rant for a Monday anyway done. Agree 100% we need a change, that said the qtr finals will be what we craved for. One side Dublin kerry Donegal & Armagh Likely Mayo, Galway, Tyrone & Cork. They will all be great games. The hurlers rave about there 10 team championchip, take the 8 football teams above, add in Derry and Roscommon, to make 10, we would have super games every week. |
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Post by edgeofthesquare on Jun 17, 2024 13:12:42 GMT
Well a 2nd year of this dreadful format behind us and I hope we don't see a third. How many good games did we get out of it? 24 matches. What good did the hidings Clare and Meath got do for them? Roscommon won their first match in 4 months and are into preliminary quater final!! Monaghan won their first since beating Dublin the first day out in the league and are through. The jeopardy they wanted from this thing, fair to say that only Mayo & Dublin would have got anyone up out of their chair yesterday! Galway & Armagh was close at the end but was a putrid affair and but for Galway's mistakes it would have been a procession. All the rest of the games.... They seriously need to have a think about the product they want to put on offer, not just with this rules committee but this broken format and being held hostage by provincial councils. Thats my rant for a Monday anyway done. Likely Mayo, Galway, Tyrone & Cork. If we get Tyrone or Cork we’ll get a game but I couldn’t see either beating us but if it’s Galway or Mayo we’ll need to be at it. |
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