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Post by The16thMan on Jan 25, 2024 22:55:27 GMT
Team announcement tomorrow at 8pm. Any reason why it was pushed back? Didn't see any announcement on Kerry GAA social media channels on this.
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Post by royalkerryfan on Jan 25, 2024 23:11:50 GMT
Team announcement tomorrow at 8pm. Any reason why it was pushed back? Didn't see any announcement on Kerry GAA social media channels on this. I'm guessing it was a typo, I don't recall the team ever being named on a Thursday.
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Post by sullyschoice on Jan 26, 2024 0:11:15 GMT
I must say I am not getting the Cillian Burke hype. I have not seen anything to make me excited.....so far
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Post by thegoat on Jan 26, 2024 7:45:04 GMT
Does anybody know what time the gates open in ASP for the Derry game??
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Post by horsebox77 on Jan 26, 2024 8:48:08 GMT
I must say I am not getting the Cillian Burke hype. I have not seen anything to make me excited.....so far I wouldn't say he is hyped, he has been one of the stand out players at club and county championship level. The fact that it is commonly accepted that we are lacking in the half forward line from both a physical point of view and scoring ratio, it is only natural when a player emerges that ticks more boxes than he doesn't, people are going to get excited. Intermediate Club, to County Championship is a step up, inter county training is a step up again, as is Mc Grath Cup, to National League and finally Championship .. very level is a step up, He will be tested but in fairness of all the newbies, he has all the attributes from what I seen, is he worthy of a start tmw night, I don't know, but he certainly should be given game time. But yes, players will be hyped, more so if they play in a position, that is seen as problematic at county level...
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Post by royalkerryfan on Jan 26, 2024 9:11:49 GMT
Does anybody know what time the gates open in ASP for the Derry game?? Normally 2 hours before the game based on previous experience.
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Post by royalkerryfan on Jan 26, 2024 9:12:51 GMT
I must say I am not getting the Cillian Burke hype. I have not seen anything to make me excited.....so far I wouldn't say he is hyped, he has been one of the stand out players at club and county championship level. The fact that it is commonly accepted that we are lacking in the half forward line from both a physical point of view and scoring ratio, it is only natural when a player emerges that ticks more boxes than he doesn't, people are going to get excited. Intermediate Club, to County Championship is a step up, inter county training is a step up again, as is Mc Grath Cup, to National League and finally Championship .. very level is a step up, He will be tested but in fairness of all the newbies, he has all the attributes from what I seen, is he worthy of a start tmw night, I don't know, but he certainly should be given game time. But yes, players will be hyped, more so if they play in a position, that is seen as problematic at county level... Spot on horse. I don't think anyone is hyping the lad up we are all just hoping he is the answer to our problems in that area.
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Post by anriochtabu23 on Jan 26, 2024 9:14:15 GMT
We are lucky to have had continuity with great players in our county eg Mick O'Connell to Jack O'Shea to Darragh O'Se to David Moran to should have been Mark O'Connor. Similar with Sheehy, Maurice Fitz, Gooch & Clifford.
We are lacking a dominant midfielder and there are no obvious candidates to come in. We all saw the club final with the importance of Glass's performance where he almost singlehandedly dragged them over the line. He was a star player from a young age and I think he was on his McCrory cup team for 4/5 years. He got sent off on the Hogan cup final V the sem when Clifford scored.
I think Rob Monahan is a better footballer than Cillian Burke but it's hard to know how either would have progressed in these critical next few years. Hopefully Monahan is back in a year or two but I suspect he'll be a success over there and is gone for good.
It's good to have games to look forward to. The gap between AI.final and starting the league is much too long and even more so following a defeat.
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Post by sullyschoice on Jan 26, 2024 9:32:16 GMT
I wouldn't say he is hyped, he has been one of the stand out players at club and county championship level. The fact that it is commonly accepted that we are lacking in the half forward line from both a physical point of view and scoring ratio, it is only natural when a player emerges that ticks more boxes than he doesn't, people are going to get excited. Intermediate Club, to County Championship is a step up, inter county training is a step up again, as is Mc Grath Cup, to National League and finally Championship .. very level is a step up, He will be tested but in fairness of all the newbies, he has all the attributes from what I seen, is he worthy of a start tmw night, I don't know, but he certainly should be given game time. But yes, players will be hyped, more so if they play in a position, that is seen as problematic at county level... Spot on horse. I don't think anyone is hyping the lad up we are all just hoping he is the answer to our problems in that area. No one would be happier than me if he turns out to be the real deal.
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Post by edgeofthesquare on Jan 26, 2024 12:30:48 GMT
I must say I am not getting the Cillian Burke hype. I have not seen anything to make me excited.....so far He has only played 2 halves so far in Kerry. In the one against Cork he won 2 turnovers high up that led to scores, got a point himself and also was prominent in our general play. I think he’s exactly what we need at wing forward and I’m confident he’ll have a big year. We could do with another new wing forward option as well as Burke because our wing forward options last year bar Stephen O’Brien were subpar. I don’t see where it’s coming from though, Ronan Buckley didn’t have as good a McGrath Cup as I thought he might, Rob Monahan is gone and Ruairi Murphy is injured (although he hasn’t shown much in a Kerry jersey he does have the right profile and has shown his ability at other levels).
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Post by royalkerryfan on Jan 26, 2024 13:50:55 GMT
I must say I am not getting the Cillian Burke hype. I have not seen anything to make me excited.....so far He has only played 2 halves so far in Kerry. In the one against Cork he won 2 turnovers high up that led to scores, got a point himself and also was prominent in our general play. I think he’s exactly what we need at wing forward and I’m confident he’ll have a big year. We could do with another new wing forward option as well as Burke because our wing forward options last year bar Stephen O’Brien were subpar. I don’t see where it’s coming from though, Ronan Buckley didn’t have as good a McGrath Cup as I thought he might, Rob Monahan is gone and Ruairi Murphy is injured (although he hasn’t shown much in a Kerry jersey he does have the right profile and has shown his ability at other levels). I would still give Ronan Buckley time in there. I think he will come good..
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Post by mike70 on Jan 26, 2024 15:18:03 GMT
I think we enter this NFL campaign as you were from last year, we have some potential coming through, but don’t see it making a major difference this year. Our starting 15 can be very good, granted complimented by a few of the best in the country, when we go to the bench, I don’t see game changers in tight games, big difference coming into a game and your team up a few, then trying to recover from a losing position. I think management can help the situation by getting the starting 15 mix right, may mean keeping some weapons on the bench. But as other posters said, I still have concerns in the middle, we have talent but we need to get more out in a consistent basis. Best of luck to the management and squad for the year ahead.
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Post by tpo on Jan 26, 2024 16:36:11 GMT
At least 5/6 changes from All Ireland starting team
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Post by thehermit on Jan 26, 2024 19:46:47 GMT
Was listening to the Kerry GAA podcast driving down, Sean Sull had a very revealing stat from last summer's championship. The scores we got from the bench from the Mayo game on were pathetic, at best 0-1 in a game. Half forward line contributed in the games we were well on top, Louth, Tyrone etc but provided very little when it came to when it mattered. Finding the men to rectify this MUST be the priority over the next 3 months. So give those named above as much of a chance as we can afford to see if they can ameliorate this serious deficiency.
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Post by thehermit on Jan 26, 2024 19:59:35 GMT
Here we go:
1 (GK) Shane Ryan Seán Ó Riain Rath Mhór 2 Graham O’Sullivan Graeme Ó Súilleabháin Piarsaigh na Dromoda 3 Jason Foley Jason Ó Foghlú Baile Uí Donnachú 4 Dylan Casey Dylan Ó Cathasaigh Aibhistín de Staic 5 Brian Ó Beaglaoich Brian Ó Beaglaoich An Ghaeltacht 6 Tom O’Sullivan Tomas Ó Súilleabháin Daingean Uí Chúis 7 Gavin White Gabhin de Faoite Dr Crócaigh 8 Joe O’Connor Seosamh Ó Conchúir Aibhistín de Staic 9 Seán O’Brien Seán Ó Briain Lios An Phúca 10 Dara Moynihan Dara Ó Muineacháin Spa Cill Airne 11 Dylan Geaney Dylan Ó Géibheannaigh Daingean Uí Chúis 12 Cillian Burke Cillian De Burca Baile an Mhuillin/Caisleán na Mainge 13 Killian Spillane Cillian Ó Spealáin Teampall Nua 14 Seán O’Shea Seán Ó Sé An Neidín 15 Micheál Burns Micheál Ó Broin Dr Crócaigh 16 (GK) Seán Coffey Seán Ó Cofaigh Lios an Phúca 17 Paul Murphy Pól Ó Murchú An Rath Mhór 18 Ronan Buckley Ronan Ó Buachalla Lios A’Troí 19 Armin Heinrich Armin Henrich Aibhistín de Staic 20 Stephen O’Brien Stiofan Ó Briain An Neidín 21 Barry Dan O’Sullivan Barra Ó Súilleabháin Daingean Uí Chúis 22 Conor Geaney Conchúir Ó Géibheannaigh Daingean Uí Chúis 23 Darragh Roche Darragh De Róiste Gleann Fleisce 24 Diarmuid O’Connor Diarmuid Ó Conchúir Na Gaeil 25 Adrian Spillane Adrian Ó Spealáin Teampall Nua 26 Damien Bourke Damien De Búrca Na Gaeil
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Post by thehermit on Jan 26, 2024 20:01:08 GMT
It's what I wanted to see anyway, how many of these new fellas can survive the fire and brimstone of tomorrow. Only one way to find out, throw em in.
An Riocht Abu!!
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Post by royalkerryfan on Jan 26, 2024 20:03:31 GMT
Come on lads which one of ye had Tom OSullivan at 6 That's out of left field.
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Post by veteran on Jan 26, 2024 20:08:00 GMT
I wonder who will be delegated to pick up Shane McGuigan? I can’t recall who was on him in the championship match.
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Post by royalkerryfan on Jan 26, 2024 20:15:32 GMT
I wonder who will be delegated to pick up Shane McGuigan? I can’t recall who was on him in the championship match. I'd expect Jason Foley would pick him up. I don't think you can have Dara Moynihan and Michael Burns both in the starting 15. Can't wait to hit the road in the morning.
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Post by mike70 on Jan 26, 2024 20:16:24 GMT
It was foley on mcguigan and he was busy, got caught on the wrong side of him a few times.
Team tomo looks like a nice balance, for sure forwards will be challenged , but plenty experience in there as well.
Let’s see how it goes, I expect it to be slow burner.
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Post by shannonsider on Jan 26, 2024 20:59:20 GMT
Bit surprised with some of that. But we’ll see what happens. Won’t line up as selected I would think.
Few good bench options is a major plus.
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Post by kerryblueboy on Jan 26, 2024 21:24:00 GMT
Very physically weak forward line hopefully they will make up for it with clever movement Sullivan at 6 makes sense as he loves to get forward big tests for o Brien and Burke and geaney
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Post by royalkerryfan on Jan 26, 2024 21:28:40 GMT
Come on lads which one of ye had Tom OSullivan at 6 That's out of left field. I did nt this time but ive often called for Tom st cb.Dont think having both Moynihan and Burns on together works tbh. No I agree I don't think the two boys should be starting together. I am assuming Michael will come out and leave 2 inside forwards. Patience will be key tomorrow. This time last year i headed up to Ballybofey I'm hoping we start off better tomorrow.
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Post by Ballyfireside on Jan 26, 2024 21:41:21 GMT
I wonder how our opinions might change if we were allowed behind closed doors (BCD).
I was chatting with a BCD skin from a foreign county a while back and he was saying he has to laugh at some of the comments he hears from otherwise sensible people, even after the event analysis, not to mind predictions - we are a number of steps away from the engine room and while of course we all love to engage, it is our lifeline with sanity, we also need to be mindful that we are but (very) casual observers.
On that note, I wonder if BCD was banned, wouldn't it be the same for everyone - the entertainment value would go through the roof and the GAA community would be the better for it. I also believe that spies can view opponents training if they want to as tech has moved on from special branches letting down fellas in Killarney - it would eliminate the possibility that some may be doing it and so level the field, and it is stronger and richer teams who are the most likely offenders.
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Post by kerryexile on Jan 26, 2024 22:10:11 GMT
A very surprising selection. I accept that whatever teams Jack puts out is a gamble, blood young fellas and lose games and we are chasing our tail for the rest of the year, don’t blood them and the squad doesn’t improve. It calls for a balanced approach. It is hard to see that in this team. Looking at the forwards, why are Dara and Micheál on the same team? They don’t need to be blooded, he knows what they will bring, they are unlikely to get a lot of scores (to ensure the home win), why??
Another thing is that four Austin Stacks players got McGrath Cup game time. What have they achieved to suggest that their players are what Kerry are looking for? Joe O’Connor is an exception in this. They had 4 in Micko’s time and won the AI club.
I empathise with Darragh Roche. In the McGrath cup games full backs, half backs were coming up the field and scoring. Your opportunities are only the miskicks. That’s the last thing you want as a forward. That won’t happen in the league so he we could have had an opportunity to see him in a proper game.
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Post by kerrykieran on Jan 26, 2024 22:11:22 GMT
What happened to Donal Down does anybody know? Was a great addition in the league last year & had a good County Championship just gone I thought…
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Post by touchtight on Jan 26, 2024 22:13:59 GMT
Very physically weak forward line hopefully they will make up for it with clever movement Sullivan at 6 makes sense as he loves to get forward big tests for o Brien and Burke and geaney To call that full forward line weak is ludicrous, Burns has shown his worth as an inside forward with crokes over last two years and can create us own scores and take them against top opposition. Weak!? You try marking him so… see how that goes
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Post by edgeofthesquare on Jan 26, 2024 22:17:34 GMT
Very physically weak forward line hopefully they will make up for it with clever movement Sullivan at 6 makes sense as he loves to get forward big tests for o Brien and Burke and geaney To call that full forward line weak is ludicrous, Burns has shown his worth as an inside forward with crokes over last two years and can create us own scores and take them against top opposition. Weak!? You try marking him so… see how that goes You are in a vast minority with that opinion. Jack loves giving Burns starts in early league games which I don’t understand as he will never be an option as a championship starter.
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Post by touchtight on Jan 26, 2024 22:26:43 GMT
To call that full forward line weak is ludicrous, Burns has shown his worth as an inside forward with crokes over last two years and can create us own scores and take them against top opposition. Weak!? You try marking him so… see how that goes You are in a vast minority with that opinion. Jack loves giving Burns starts in early league games which I don’t understand as he will never be an option as a championship starter. We will see tomorrow! Don’t understand how followers of Kerry football don’t see the use of two speedy and great ball carrying towards ( Moynihan and burns). Killian Spillane is also an option to generate and convert scores in that 15, maybe I’m wrong but you won’t get any pat on the back from me tomorrow if you skeptics are proven right
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Post by Ballyfireside on Jan 26, 2024 22:48:43 GMT
BTW céad míle fáilte to the recent 'on-boarders' - I think it is fair to say the morale was seldom better on here and IMO the arrival of a few from another forum might have had something to do with it, and as you are Kerry breed I have no doubt you lot will help take this to an even higher level.
Maybe an unwritten rule is that we all appreciate that Control (Moderators) are voluntary and so we try not to bother them - they are Kerry supporters too and need their time and space to enjoy the party - there are times when we all have to let things go and from my experience you will get into the zone pretty quick - it ain't complicated and the form is easy enough to read.
You won't be disappointed and the forum heats up as the season, well heats up; so don't say you haven't been warned.
Veteran is our God and as for myself, I had to open a new account recently due to technical issues so I have been here a while and have a few more posts than what is indicated.
I think most get it that the benefit of the forum is that we learn from being challenged by one another and we have all been proven wrong (and right!) on occasion!
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