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Post by patshamrock on May 24, 2024 6:52:40 GMT
That's unreal.Maybe Paul O Shea might have played as a sub in the championship but can't think of anyone else. I think he played a few league games. I think he's the only one from the 2018 team to play any senior games. Dylan Geaney now as well, surely must be one of the lowest returns of a minor team to only have 2 players to have made league appearances. The fact that it was under 17 probably had an impact also.
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Post by hurlingman on May 24, 2024 6:55:01 GMT
Kerry did not win a Munster minor title in the early 70s yet still a lot of those players went on to win multiple all Irelands.. Yet the Cork players didn't. A few of those Cork lads would have won hurling All-Irelands later in the 70s.
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Post by exiled on May 24, 2024 22:03:57 GMT
Kerry did not win a Munster minor title in the early 70s yet still a lot of those players went on to win multiple all Irelands.. Yet the Cork players didn't. A few of those Cork lads would have won hurling All-Irelands later in the 70s. And a couple won the AIFF in 73. But none after. But how many of the Kerry minors from 71/74 went on to win multiple AI.
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Post by john4 on May 24, 2024 22:41:22 GMT
Hard luck to all involved on Sunday, Tyrone were magnificent going forward, took advantage of every loose handpass or miscommunication from Kerry, and the better team won on the day. Very interesting after to hear their players and management talk about the '8 step programme' of preparing for the 8 matches required to win the AI title from the day they met for the first time as a panel. The U20 format lends itself to preparing for these kinds of challenges from the outset and you can see they were in the right mindset to deliver. Hopefully our lads that carry over into next year can learn from the hurt and disappointment of this championship and go the extra step forward next year. A lot has been said in the media recently that disappointment at underage level might go further to a player's development at senior level than success, so hopefully the senior panel reaps the dividends of this going forward. Those from the starting team underage again for next season will have gained a ton of vital experience and deserve another chance to deliver under the same management group. Onwards and upwards. Congratulations also to Charlie Keating, who was awarded the Munster U20 Player of the Championship last night. Charlie Keating is a real prospect in fairness. He'd a great championship, even in the final when the hole was deep he took the fight to Tyrone
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Post by sayitasiseeit on May 24, 2024 22:48:04 GMT
The boys tried their best yesterday but in reality this team was never equipped to win an all Ireland .From the start from talking to avid followers of both club and colleges football the management got the selection for both the panel and later the team wrong .Too many quality club and college quality players omitted and conversely too many starters from last years mediocre minor team that failed to beat Monaghan .They were all totally out of their depth yesterday.We also had too many attack minded defenders who were ruthlessly exposed for their defensive frailties yesterday and a midfield that was too small for the modern game and forwards that played too much as individuals.I know they battled to the end yesterday and for sheer honesty they can’t be faulted but we expect so much more down in Kerry and it was humbling the way tyrone blew us away by not playing puke football but by playing the beautiful game Brazil style that we invented that’s what hurts the most today.Let’s get it right for 2025 and no more lame excuses as we are the aristocrats of Gaelic football not these tyrone imposters . Did this man come back and tell us yet, who all the players that were left out of the overall panel and team were. The quality club and college players that were all overlooked?
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Post by exiled on May 24, 2024 23:04:01 GMT
The boys tried their best yesterday but in reality this team was never equipped to win an all Ireland .From the start from talking to avid followers of both club and colleges football the management got the selection for both the panel and later the team wrong .Too many quality club and college quality players omitted and conversely too many starters from last years mediocre minor team that failed to beat Monaghan .They were all totally out of their depth yesterday.We also had too many attack minded defenders who were ruthlessly exposed for their defensive frailties yesterday and a midfield that was too small for the modern game and forwards that played too much as individuals.I know they battled to the end yesterday and for sheer honesty they can’t be faulted but we expect so much more down in Kerry and it was humbling the way tyrone blew us away by not playing puke football but by playing the beautiful game Brazil style that we invented that’s what hurts the most today.Let’s get it right for 2025 and no more lame excuses as we are the aristocrats of Gaelic football not these tyrone imposters . Did this man come back and tell us yet, who all the players that were left out of the overall panel and team were. The quality club and college players that were all overlooked? In all honesty I don't think that no matter what players were picked under what management they would not have beaten Tyrone last Sunday
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Post by chicago09 on May 24, 2024 23:14:34 GMT
A few of those Cork lads would have won hurling All-Irelands later in the 70s. And a couple won the AIFF in 73. But none after. But how many of the Kerry minors from 71/74 went on to win multiple AI. well the Kerry minor team lost all Ireland in 1970 had power okeefe p lynch Mickey Ned and more and they won the u21 in ‘73 and that’s where all those good players came from in the 70’s We won minor senior under 21 in 75 and two more in ‘76 and ‘77 so under age matters if u have the players.
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Post by ballyf1984 on May 25, 2024 8:58:33 GMT
No and he won’t either. All the insults and what went wrong but no answers. 🤡 quote author=" sayitasiseeit" source="/post/288777/thread" timestamp="1716590884"] The boys tried their best yesterday but in reality this team was never equipped to win an all Ireland .From the start from talking to avid followers of both club and colleges football the management got the selection for both the panel and later the team wrong .Too many quality club and college quality players omitted and conversely too many starters from last years mediocre minor team that failed to beat Monaghan .They were all totally out of their depth yesterday.We also had too many attack minded defenders who were ruthlessly exposed for their defensive frailties yesterday and a midfield that was too small for the modern game and forwards that played too much as individuals.I know they battled to the end yesterday and for sheer honesty they can’t be faulted but we expect so much more down in Kerry and it was humbling the way tyrone blew us away by not playing puke football but by playing the beautiful game Brazil style that we invented that’s what hurts the most today.Let’s get it right for 2025 and no more lame excuses as we are the aristocrats of Gaelic football not these tyrone imposters . Did this man come back and tell us yet, who all the players that were left out of the overall panel and team were. The quality club and college players that were all overlooked? [/quote]
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Post by Annascaultilidie on May 25, 2024 9:22:10 GMT
Can we leave the clown emoji off this forum please?
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Post by patshamrock on May 25, 2024 9:43:33 GMT
Any news on any of the under 20s in with kerry training, fairly sure last year I remember seeing cillian burke's name listed as a sub. So Jack wouldn't seem to have the panel as closed to people in the middle of the championship.
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Post by john4 on May 25, 2024 10:07:37 GMT
"Five members of Tyrone's All-Ireland U20 winning team have been invited to join the senior squad ahead of this weekend’s All-Ireland SFC round robin clash with Donegal.
Goalkeeper Conor McAneney, defenders Michael Rafferty and Shea O’Hare, along with attackers Eoin McElholm and Ronan Cassidy, are all set to make an immediate step up to the senior ranks.
It’s understood McElholm, who scored seven points from play in the victory over Kerry at Portlaoise, and U20 team captain Rafferty have accepted the invitation, and the others are currently considering the offer.
The Red Hand U20s claimed a second U20 title in three seasons with a scintillating display of attacking football last weekend, defeating Kerry by 1-20 to 1-14 at O’Moore Park.
For O'Hare, the offer to join the senior ranks comes after he was named Eirgrid U20 GAA Football Player of the Year by the Gaelic Writers Association for his performances throughout Tyrone's victorious campaign.
O'Hare was a huge attacking threat for Tyrone in the win against Kerry and prior to that, he hit 1-01 in the semi-final victory over Roscommon.
He also scored a goal against Derry in Tyrone's Ulster final victory, which came after extra-time and a penalty shoot-out."
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We were beaten by a generational U20 Tyrone team, who absolutely deserved to win the match. We have good footballers aswell so it's not nice to see them overly criticised. We were well managed from what it appears, they absolutely tried tirelessly to the end and no more can be asked
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Post by mossie on May 26, 2024 13:05:40 GMT
Any news on any of the under 20s in with kerry training, fairly sure last year I remember seeing cillian burke's name listed as a sub. So Jack wouldn't seem to have the panel as closed to people in the middle of the championship. Luke Crowley is good enough to be called in , he could be a real x factor off the bench
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Post by The16thMan on Jun 6, 2024 21:52:35 GMT
I've read in an article that Charlie Keating is one of 3 players being monitored very closely by AFL scouts. Would be a major blow to Kerry if he was to go as he was one of the more promising players this season from the U20 panel and tipped by Tomas to make the step up to Kerry. Other 2 players are Eoin McElholm (Tyrone U20 CHF) & Roscommon's Daire Cregg (No.14 vs Dublin 2 weeks ago).
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Post by edgeofthesquare on Jun 6, 2024 22:51:31 GMT
I've read in an article that Charlie Keating is one of 3 players being monitored very closely by AFL scouts. Would be a major blow to Kerry if he was to go as he was one of the more promising players this season from the U20 panel and tipped by Tomas to make the step up to Kerry. Other 2 players are Eoin McElholm (Tyrone U20 CHF) & Roscommon's Daire Cregg (No.14 vs Dublin 2 weeks ago). 2 other Kerry u20s are reportedly attending an AFL combine in Dublin this weekend as well.
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Post by homerj on Jun 18, 2024 7:39:26 GMT
I've read in an article that Charlie Keating is one of 3 players being monitored very closely by AFL scouts. Would be a major blow to Kerry if he was to go as he was one of the more promising players this season from the U20 panel and tipped by Tomas to make the step up to Kerry. Other 2 players are Eoin McElholm (Tyrone U20 CHF) & Roscommon's Daire Cregg (No.14 vs Dublin 2 weeks ago). 2 other Kerry u20s are reportedly attending an AFL combine in Dublin this weekend as well. Anybody know who they are?
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Post by greengold35 on Jun 18, 2024 11:14:15 GMT
2 other Kerry u20s are reportedly attending an AFL combine in Dublin this weekend as well. Anybody know who they are? Evan Boyle & Daniel Kirby though there is some doubt about Kirby as he maybe under age - not sure. Keating looks to be a done deal unfortunately.
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