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Post by jackiel on May 16, 2024 10:30:40 GMT
Jesus the Irish really are world champions at whinging and moaning. The amount of GAA bashing about GAAGo is a joke. Its a great service. Yes there are flaws infrastructure that supports broadband and the games that are shown. But honestly this notion that our games should be free because some auldfella marks the pitch or makes the tea in the local club deserves to watch any game he wants. You pay into see your club games yet somehow the intercounty should be free. The GAA basically provide sporting facilities in every community in this country yet people think its magic beans that pays for it all. I agree with a lot of what you say Royal, ideally I'd like to be in attendance at matches but when that's not possible GAA Go and Clubber have filled a gap and allowed me to see games I wouldn't otherwise. I'm a bit older than you , for most of my childhood it was only semi finals and All Irelands plus the Railway Cup that were shown on RTE ( some were even in black and white). Last weekend I watched Kerry U20s on my phone poolside in Portugal. This weekend it'll be GAA Go due to a very important family event in Roscommon. The notion that everything should be free fascinates me, anyone with an insight into the running of a club knows it won't run on fresh air, even with the most willing volunteers. The cost of registration , insurance , gear and upkeep of facilities is phenomenal. For clarity, I'm employed by my club which is one of the bigger clubs in Meath, not the best paid job in town but it's something I'm interested in and close to home. I'm also a voluntary steward in Croke Park so see the GAA from all sides. Yes, the GAA has it's flaws but there's a lot more good than bad.
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Post by kot on May 16, 2024 15:32:38 GMT
Strip away all the crowd pleasing speeches this year when presenting the cups at the hurling and football finals and you will find you don’t get what you see with Jarlath. I know for a fact he is very friendly with Declan McBennett, RTÉ’s Group Head of Sport and Director of GAAGO in South Armagh GAA circles. Also as GAA president he is going to back GAAGO to the last as this money maker has to be seen as wonderful bla bla Bla. After having looked in Jarlath Burns CV I haven't seen any reference to him bee involved in anything of consequence in the GAA central council before 2015. Just a vendetta on here. I respect him as a player and advocate of player welfare over the years. And I have no problem whatsoever with GAAGO. Lived abroad for years and I wish it was available then as well as Clubber and TG4 youtube. Give the man a break. It was one of our own who gave the Dubs all the money by taking the Bertie bribe for Croker. Probably deviating from the topic of the Kerry U20s..... soundcloud.com/sportsjoe-gaa-hour/jarlath-burns-defends-dublin-funding-carnacon-mess?in=sean-murray-482122782/sets/carGo to 36 mins, he basically spells out his involvement from 2002.
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Post by patshamrock on May 19, 2024 5:58:44 GMT
Unfortunately my irish isn't great so can just pick up a few words here and there. For the game today I was hoping to listen to radio kerry online and watch gaago, could possibly watch using tg4 player if it's not geo blocked or YouTube if they are showing live on that. Does anyone watch the game but listen to the radio and sync them. I am thinking if I pause one of them on certain apps when I press play again it will skip forward to live again. Any apps or ideas on best solution for this?
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Post by royalkerryfan on May 19, 2024 7:30:02 GMT
Best of luck to Tomas and the lads today.
Fantastic achievement making the final I hope they do themselves justice today.
I hope the officials watch the antics that will happen to certain Kerry players.
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Post by homerj on May 19, 2024 10:38:00 GMT
Sign if the times when we are in an all ireland final and its very quiet.
Best of luck to Tomas and all the lads, up against it but no better bunch to cause a surprise and win it.
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Post by Ballydonoghoor on May 19, 2024 11:49:45 GMT
Jesus the Irish really are world champions at whinging and moaning. The amount of GAA bashing about GAAGo is a joke. Its a great service. Yes there are flaws infrastructure that supports broadband and the games that are shown. But honestly this notion that our games should be free because some auldfella marks the pitch or makes the tea in the local club deserves to watch any game he wants. You pay into see your club games yet somehow the intercounty should be free. The GAA basically provide sporting facilities in every community in this country yet people think its magic beans that pays for it all. How right you are , Royal. As late as today I heard one of our politicians moan that broadband reception is poor in some areas and therefore that is another argument against GAA Go. . I wonder is that the fault of the GAA or politicians? Hypocrisy gone wild. At least Jarlath is engaging and so the community need to address the issue - we have a member on here who helps his dad but not everyone is so fortunate and it can be soul destroying. The License fee should cover what is an amateur community sport and where much of the work is done by locals volunteering. Some say the Dubs get more than their share of GAAGo subs. If the broadband network isn't working satisfactorily the GAA can't ignore it. I think the GAA is missing out on a big opportunity to be the main 'free to view' sport and which will pay long term dividend. It is a hard one to crack and there will be compromises as opposite powerful forces are at play - unstoppable force meets immovable object, etc! I wonder if the GAA so hard stuck for cash that it has to charge for viewing? If we had the figures we might be nearer a solution. Still, intrue GAA Spirit Jarlath is being open and transparent so that is a big step forward - we all have then same skin in it here so we should arrive at the right answer.
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Post by kot on May 19, 2024 12:28:31 GMT
Second best all over here today
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Post by john4 on May 19, 2024 12:33:56 GMT
If Tyrone were more clinical at finishing, it'd be all over
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Post by taggert on May 19, 2024 12:34:48 GMT
Forwards bar one have been very disappointing. One in particular is taking on some lunatic efforts - really low percentage shots and it needs to be nipped in the bud.
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Post by veteran on May 19, 2024 12:36:35 GMT
Huge gulf in class here so far, Haunted to be as close as we are. Obviously took a chance with young O’Callaghan which has backfired.
It will be some achievement if Tomas can mastermind a turnaround.
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Post by oldschool on May 19, 2024 12:42:54 GMT
So lucky to be only 4 down Pure luck keeping us in the game Fombling . Turnovers etc very unlike this Kerry team Hope for better 2nd half
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Post by goforit2 on May 19, 2024 12:44:29 GMT
Lucky to be still in it. Hope Tomas can re-energise them at half time. Dillon the stand out for Kerry.
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Post by Kingdomson on May 19, 2024 12:47:57 GMT
We're up against a seriously talented Tyrone side here, and I thought Kerry did really well to make a final but knew they were up against it today. Tyrone really should be out the gap by halftime and I hope Kerry can at least avoid total scoreline humiliation (i.e. a double-digit loss), even if a loss is the most likely outcome here.
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Post by Kingdomson on May 19, 2024 13:07:37 GMT
We're still only 7 down in the 50 minute despite all the waves of Tyrone attacks who seem to be chasing goals more than points all game - i don't know how many they've missed or had efforts stopped on the line.
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Post by goforit2 on May 19, 2024 13:23:29 GMT
Better team won. No shame to be beaten by that Tyrone team. They were very impressive.
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Post by Kingdomson on May 19, 2024 13:24:06 GMT
Tremendous heart shown by this Kerry team in the final once again as they've shown all championship. We were outclassed, and Tyrone were also profligate in this final but Kerry kept bringing the fight and the heads never dropped in that second half. We only lost by six points in the end but it could and should have been a lot more but this Kerry team didn't deserve a hammering for their heart alone. Congratulations to Tyrone and hard luck to our Kerry boys.
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Post by crokes86 on May 19, 2024 13:47:54 GMT
Tyrone far better team always in control should have won by more . Kerry did well to get this far honestly I thought they wouldn’t win Munster . Kerrys dreadful underage record against Tyrone continues .
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Post by An Ciarraíoch Taistealaíoch on May 19, 2024 13:54:15 GMT
Tremendous heart shown by this Kerry team in the final once again as they've shown all championship. We were outclassed, and Tyrone were also profligate in this final but Kerry kept bringing the fight and the heads never dropped in that second half. We only lost by six points in the end but it could and should have been a lot more but this Kerry team didn't deserve a hammering for their heart alone. Congratulations to Tyrone and hard luck to our Kerry boys. Agreed 100%. We were completely outplayed by a very strong Tyrone team who were rightly fancied ahead of throw in. Tyrone left a lot of scores behind them but we kept playing lovely attacking football until the end. I heard the commentator say something about "bearna luthcleasaíocht agus luas" midway in the 2nd half and that did sum it up (gap of athleticism and speed). He wasn't saying it critically of Kerry but rather in praise of Tyrone. Am I right in thinking that a lot of today's team are underage again next year? I know Luke Crowley has 2 years left and Cormac Dillon has one.
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Post by veteran on May 19, 2024 13:57:41 GMT
We were outclassed by an exceptional team but my heart filled with pride as those boys fought to their last breath . What spunk and heroism to keep battling a losing cause. Tyrone will get a lot of seniors from their team but be assured so will we.
I will mention just three guys . Charlie Keating was utterly defiant at midfield in the second half . Pray that we don’t lose that man to Australian Rules. Cormac Dillon from Duagh. Most people on here will not remember nor indeed have heard of another star Duagh forward from a bygone age, Dan McAulliffe . Dan won his senior medals in 1959 and 1962. Dan was a classy one. Cormac has the same class. Finally, I will mention Luke Crowley. Some people may quibble with my choice. Indeed he was poor for long stages of the game but his gutsy attitude towards the end of the game is all the more meritorious because of that. A lesser man might have gone into his shell but not Luke. He manfully won that penalty, he converted it effortlessly with panache and scored a point immediately afterwards. Those moments were a display of bloody mindedness which separates the elite from the ordinary. And of course his eagerness to retrieve the ball for the free was further illustration of that approach.
There were other fine displays but I mention the three lads to depict our stubbornness in the face of an impossible task.
I think Paddy Neilan is one of the better referees and I felt he was totally fair today. Perhaps , the black cards at the end were a little harsh but it did not influence the outcome of the game.
The black cards may have been harsh but a question for the referee nerds here , was it a correct application of the rules? My point is the ball was not in play , therefore would two yellows have been the more appropriate decision?
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Post by kerryboyo on May 19, 2024 14:06:44 GMT
Tremendous heart shown by this Kerry team in the final once again as they've shown all championship. We were outclassed, and Tyrone were also profligate in this final but Kerry kept bringing the fight and the heads never dropped in that second half. We only lost by six points in the end but it could and should have been a lot more but this Kerry team didn't deserve a hammering for their heart alone. Congratulations to Tyrone and hard luck to our Kerry boys. Agreed 100%. We were completely outplayed by a very strong Tyrone team who were rightly fancied ahead of throw in. Tyrone left a lot of scores behind them but we kept playing lovely attacking football until the end. I heard the commentator say something about "bearna luthcleasaíocht agus luas" midway in the 2nd half and that did sum it up (gap of athleticism and speed). He wasn't saying it critically of Kerry but rather in praise of Tyrone. Am I right in thinking that a lot of today's team are underage again next year? I know Luke Crowley has 2 years left and Cormac Dillon has one. Mike Tansley Maidhici Lynch Gearoid Evans Darragh OConnor Eddie Healy Odhran Ferris Tomas Kennedy Daniel Kirby Cormac Dillon All underage from starting team
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Post by royalkerryfan on May 19, 2024 14:11:50 GMT
Hard luck to the Kerry boys.
We just met a much better team today.
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Post by kerry4sam88 on May 19, 2024 14:27:14 GMT
Hard luck to the boys who in fairness never gave up and fought right to the end and if We're to be fair only for Tyrones wastlefulness in front of goal at times could have been a double score drubbing. Like previous poster's have said no shame in losing to that Tyrone team they looked a class above at times.
Good to see that more than half of that team are under age again next year which can only be of benefit.
Finally special mention to Cormac Dillon who looks to have the talent to make it into the senior squad. His accuracy in front of goal and his free taking style to me mirrors that of a certain Seanie O Shea and hopefully in the next year or 2 will be the next underage star to make the step up. Honorable mentions too to Charlie Keating, Eddie Healy and Luke Crowley who despite not having the best game clearly has the talent and temperament to make the step up just feel he needs to give and go a lot more of the time and try not to be the match winner all the time.
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Post by edgeofthesquare on May 19, 2024 14:31:58 GMT
Hard luck to the boys who in fairness never gave up and fought right to the end and if We're to be fair only for Tyrones wastlefulness in front of goal at times could have been a double score drubbing. Like previous poster's have said no shame in losing to that Tyrone team they looked a class above at times. Good to see that more than half of that team are under age again next year which can only be of benefit. Finally special mention to Cormac Dillon who looks to have the talent to make it into the senior squad. His accuracy in front of goal and his free taking style to me mirrors that of a certain Seanie O Shea and hopefully in the next year or 2 will be the next underage star to make the step up. Honorable mentions too to Charlie Keating, Eddie Healy and Luke Crowley who despite not having the best game clearly has the talent and temperament to make the step up just feel he needs to give and go a lot more of the time and try not to be the match winner all the time. Closer to goal at 14 might be the position to get the best out of Crowley. Carrying the ball around the middle of the field doesn’t really work. His strength and directness near the goals would cause teams a lot of bother, he could be a similar style of full forward to Damien Comer of Galway.
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Post by anriochtabu23 on May 19, 2024 15:08:43 GMT
From just watching their semi final I'd have Tyrone 6/7 points favourites. We seem to be solid in defence but at this level mistakes are easily made. Id expect some typical Tyrone tactics for Luke Crowley as he's our main goal threat. Whatever happens it'll be a good experience for our lads. It's incredible we haven't been in an U20 final since 2008 and we have had so many good minor teams since then. I saw a stat last year that last year's championship was the first time in an age when the squad didn't have a u2 And 6 points difference in the end.
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Post by chicago09 on May 19, 2024 15:32:06 GMT
No excuses Tyrone were better team half that team half lost minor final to Meath three years ago We are a lot younger team than them so should be back next year. The management did a good job except the for the kickouts today and don’t want to criticize the players but we gave away at least five or six points from those kick outs. I agree Crowley will be a big asset for the seniors as him and Clifford would take some marking in the full forward line. Also Healy Keating and Dillon look like future seniors maybe Jack will call them up eventually in his fourth term.
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Post by damarys on May 19, 2024 17:08:17 GMT
Congratulations to Tyrone on a great display.I would also like to congratulate kerry on a very enjoyable game.They never threw in the towel and while they rode their luck a few times ,they also contributed to at least 1,5 or 1,6 to their own downfall.The goal for Tyrone came from a sloppy pass to the ground!For the life of me I cannot understand why we don,t take better care of the ball when we have it!!The kerry minors in the munster final during the week had just 1 sloppy in the whole game.Also as a few other people on this forum have said ...we do not go after goals.For example ,our 3rd (I think)point in the match we got from a goalie kickout turnover.We ended up with a 2 via 1 situation and instead of going for a goal we took a easy point.Also when we brought in down to 3 points midway through the 2nd half with momentum building for Kerry we broke from midfield with a plus 2 situation and kicked it short into the goalie!!Tyrone took it down the field and almost scored a goal!!Kerry will get several players from this team.Fair play to them,they never wilted and they dropped a few frees short that would have close the gap to 4 in the end.
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Post by kerrysouth on May 19, 2024 19:15:06 GMT
Congrats to Tyrone on a Brillant display today we were beaten all over the field and the scoreline flattered us the Tyrone forward man of the match mc Elholm destroyed a number of markers and his post match interview where he said they should have had 5 or 6 goals is hard to argue against.Tomas will have regrets now that he prob should have re booted after the colleges final when omagh destroyed Mounthawk as it was evident then that leaning heavily on those players we were never going to defeat a full Tyrone team .It is becoming more apparent that beating cork in Munster minor /20 s carries no currency anymore when it comes to winning all Irelands.In hindsight we prob rode our luck v Meath but in fairness today we were simply outclassed by a better team and we have no regrets.The difference in pace between the two teams today was alarming and will need to be addressed for whoever manages the team next year.
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Post by Seoirse Ui Duic on May 19, 2024 21:34:17 GMT
Just like the seniors we don't seem to deal well when teams run at us. Time and time again Tyrone just ran straight at Kerry. There were some quite impressive individual skills from Kerry and we shouldn't forget most of the Kerry team have another year at this grade ahead of them. The physical difference, the huge difference in strength and conditioning told. Still. I find it very, very disappointing to lose yet another final. Kerry were bossed around at midfield, the backs did not manage to stop the Tyrone forwards running straight through them. Perhaps we need a bit more bite. We don't need to become dirty, but I feel Kerry teams are currently too nice and not cute enough. Hopefully this team can get the title next year
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Post by kerry4sam88 on May 19, 2024 21:34:38 GMT
Hard luck to the boys who in fairness never gave up and fought right to the end and if We're to be fair only for Tyrones wastlefulness in front of goal at times could have been a double score drubbing. Like previous poster's have said no shame in losing to that Tyrone team they looked a class above at times. Good to see that more than half of that team are under age again next year which can only be of benefit. Finally special mention to Cormac Dillon who looks to have the talent to make it into the senior squad. His accuracy in front of goal and his free taking style to me mirrors that of a certain Seanie O Shea and hopefully in the next year or 2 will be the next underage star to make the step up. Honorable mentions too to Charlie Keating, Eddie Healy and Luke Crowley who despite not having the best game clearly has the talent and temperament to make the step up just feel he needs to give and go a lot more of the time and try not to be the match winner all the time. Closer to goal at 14 might be the position to get the best out of Crowley. Carrying the ball around the middle of the field doesn’t really work. His strength and directness near the goals would cause teams a lot of bother, he could be a similar style of full forward to Damien Comer of Galway. Agree totally. Obviously has that same type of build like his dad and when he moved inside to full forward he made and scored the penalty and followed that with a point straight after. Think that's how you get the best out of him. His turn in manoeuvreing himself into a position to get the shot off for the penalty was very clever and I feel he'd offer a different option if called into the senior squad next year
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Post by greengold35 on May 19, 2024 21:40:28 GMT
Just like the seniors we don't seem to deal well when teams run at us. Time and time again Tyrone just ran straight at Kerry. There were some quite impressive individual skills from Kerry and we shouldn't forget most of the Kerry team have another year at this grade ahead of them. The physical difference, the huge difference in strength and conditioning told. Still. I find it very, very disappointing to lose yet another final. Kerry were bossed around at midfield, the backs did not manage to stop the Tyrone forwards running straight through them. Perhaps we need a bit more bite. We don't need to become dirty, but I feel Kerry teams are currently too nice and not cute enough. Hopefully this team can get the title next year I would have no complaints- Tyrone had a combination of 2 Hogan Cup winning teams; Donnelly who was MOTM in this years final could not make that Tyrone squad - seriously talented outfit.
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