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Post by mossie on May 13, 2024 19:40:31 GMT
Huge win! Tomas simply had to get to an AI final this year and he has delivered it. Defence superb, some mighty men in there. Delighted. Really like what Tomas has done with this team irrespective of how the final goes
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Post by exiled on May 13, 2024 20:24:02 GMT
While I have great time for Jarlath Burns I think that the u20 final should be in a bigger venue and the u17 also
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Post by homerj on May 13, 2024 23:55:52 GMT
Both finals used be played in croke park, why no longer the case?
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Post by mike70 on May 14, 2024 5:16:38 GMT
Wish the team all the best on Sunday , looks like a tough task ahead, but we have some solid players , hope we take the challenge to Tyrone, Roscommon showed that they also have weakness in defence.
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Post by Jo90 on May 14, 2024 8:07:56 GMT
Both finals used be played in croke park, why no longer the case? For the minors, 15 year olds playing in front of 40000+ supporters would be unfair on them.
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Post by givehimaball on May 14, 2024 9:54:00 GMT
Both finals used be played in croke park, why no longer the case? For the minors, 15 year olds playing in front of 40000+ supporters would be unfair on them. Yeah whatever about the U20s, the minors at U17 is very much a kids competition. If you had the minors playing before an All-Ireland final, the average ages of the minor teams would be closer in age to the half-time primary games than the adult teams.
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Post by greengold35 on May 14, 2024 11:50:27 GMT
Huge win! Tomas simply had to get to an AI final this year and he has delivered it. Defence superb, some mighty men in there. Delighted. Really like what Tomas has done with this team irrespective of how the final goes Tomás deserves great credit full stop. I was talking to a few squad members & they love his approach - common theme is the lack of passing/possession drills; instead, conditioned games are more likely to be kick passing only or mini games where the ball CANNOT be passed backwards by hand or foot - it just might catch on !!
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Post by edgeofthesquare on May 14, 2024 12:40:13 GMT
Tyrone 10/11 now to win the game and Kerry 6/5. Tyrone are very confident. What has bookies odds got to do with Tyrone being confident?On being confident I'm sure Kerry are too.No point in being in a final unless you re confident of winning.After seeing both teams if I was gambling on the match I'd back Tyrone(however on principle I would nt back against Kerry).However it is a final so anything can happen. That statement was unrelated to the odds. The feeling in the general public of Tyrone is that they fully expect to win. They may be a bit over confident even, might work in Kerry’s favour.
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Post by horsebox77 on May 14, 2024 12:48:45 GMT
After Sunday, the U20 squad will be disbanded for the year, can anyone make a valid call for any of the panel being promoted to the senior training squad for the remainder of the year?
Any bolter putting their hands up?
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Post by greengold35 on May 14, 2024 13:57:46 GMT
After Sunday, the U20 squad will be disbanded for the year, can anyone make a valid call for any of the panel being promoted to the senior training squad for the remainder of the year? Any bolter putting their hands up? I would have Cian Lynch in a heartbeat- great pace, strong, has great positional sense; never conceded an inch to a bigger opponent on Sat who was Meath’s most dangerous attacker. He already has a county championship medal with EK - he is ready for the step up.
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Post by homerj on May 14, 2024 14:29:35 GMT
Surely 2 or 3 of them deserve a call up immediately, even just to replace the few injured/gone from panel.
Even if just to get them involved early before next year's call up, surely is a no brainer
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Post by onlykerry on May 14, 2024 15:17:25 GMT
The likelihood of Jack using any from the U20 panel is close to Zero - if he wanted one of them he would have pulled them from the U20 panel as the senior panel will always take precedence.
That is not to say one or more would not make it in the senior ranks but once Jack settles on his starters and bench he rarely changes this late in the day. Injuries are the only unknown but Jack is not known for springing lads from outside the panel.
Realistically the U20's will not be considered for the senior panel until the league comes around again.
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Post by kot on May 14, 2024 15:33:40 GMT
While I have great time for Jarlath Burns I think that the u20 final should be in a bigger venue and the u17 also I find the man to be a bit of a bluffer myself. Was a central pillar, along with our own former President, in giving Dublin a disproportionate amount of funds. He used to love then justifying it by referencing Armagh Div 3 ladies hurling analogies or something similarly daft. Now his latest is to try and justify GAAGo when it clearer is nothing more than a money maker. He referenced all the stadium upgrades, presumambly no stadium ever got upgraded so before this GaaGo money spinner dating back to 1884?
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Post by mainevalley on May 14, 2024 16:14:06 GMT
The likelihood of Jack using any from the U20 panel is close to Zero - if he wanted one of them he would have pulled them from the U20 panel as the senior panel will always take precedence. That is not to say one or more would not make it in the senior ranks but once Jack settles on his starters and bench he rarely changes this late in the day. Injuries are the only unknown but Jack is not known for springing lads from outside the panel. Realistically the U20's will not be considered for the senior panel until the league comes around again. Agree with you on that. I know one of them rejected a call up to the seniors already preferring to stay with the u20 this year and it is working well for him, a brave call. He might get up the reckoning a big faster this way.
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Post by greengold35 on May 14, 2024 17:41:58 GMT
The likelihood of Jack using any from the U20 panel is close to Zero - if he wanted one of them he would have pulled them from the U20 panel as the senior panel will always take precedence. That is not to say one or more would not make it in the senior ranks but once Jack settles on his starters and bench he rarely changes this late in the day. Injuries are the only unknown but Jack is not known for springing lads from outside the panel. Realistically the U20's will not be considered for the senior panel until the league comes around again. Agree with you on that. I know one of them rejected a call up to the seniors already preferring to stay with the u20 this year and it is working well for him, a brave call. He might get up the reckoning a big faster this way. I would agree on that but the recent loss of Okunbar & Ronan Buckley should surely mean a call up, for experience alone.
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Post by mainevalley on May 14, 2024 19:26:11 GMT
Agree with you on that. I know one of them rejected a call up to the seniors already preferring to stay with the u20 this year and it is working well for him, a brave call. He might get up the reckoning a big faster this way. I would agree on that but the recent loss of Okunbar & Ronan Buckley should surely mean a call up, for experience alone. Yeah definitely and I'd be grand about it too. I would even fancy a few getting Gametime in last super 8 game if a non event game to give others a break. The only problem is I wouldn't be happy if I was a squad fringe player and a few u20s skipped over them. Even though the u20 could be better than them....
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Post by homerj on May 14, 2024 23:26:23 GMT
Tyrone are undoubtedly favours next weekend no matter what we say.
We are up against it for sure.
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Post by horsebox77 on May 15, 2024 8:06:17 GMT
The likelihood of Jack using any from the U20 panel is close to Zero - if he wanted one of them he would have pulled them from the U20 panel as the senior panel will always take precedence. That is not to say one or more would not make it in the senior ranks but once Jack settles on his starters and bench he rarely changes this late in the day. Injuries are the only unknown but Jack is not known for springing lads from outside the panel. Realistically the U20's will not be considered for the senior panel until the league comes around again. Agree with you on that. I know one of them rejected a call up to the seniors already preferring to stay with the u20 this year and it is working well for him, a brave call. He might get up the reckoning a big faster this way. May I ask who that was?
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Post by mainevalley on May 15, 2024 8:45:16 GMT
Agree with you on that. I know one of them rejected a call up to the seniors already preferring to stay with the u20 this year and it is working well for him, a brave call. He might get up the reckoning a big faster this way. May I ask who that was? Prefer not to say, but sure he was right to give the u20s a proper crack as he would only be fringe panelist this year
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Post by kingdomrising on May 15, 2024 11:06:38 GMT
Seems counter-intuitive going off a historical context, but Kerry's best path to victory on Sunday is to turn this game into a low scoring dogfight. Tyrone average 3-14 per game scored and 1-10 conceded, with Kerry averaging 1-14 per game scored and 0-10 conceded. Kerry have been quite exposed through the heart of their defense with runners not being tracked so the keeper will probably be called upon for a few efforts at goal. On the other hand, Crowley and Kennedy will fancy themselves if left 1 on 1 at the other end, looking at the success Roscommon had with limited opportunities in the inside forward line last Saturday. Hopefully we'll learn from last week and be a bit more clinical down the stretch with execution.
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Post by Jo90 on May 15, 2024 13:39:18 GMT
Seems counter-intuitive going off a historical context, but Kerry's best path to victory on Sunday is to turn this game into a low scoring dogfight. Tyrone average 3-14 per game scored and 1-10 conceded, with Kerry averaging 1-14 per game scored and 0-10 conceded. Kerry have been quite exposed through the heart of their defense with runners not being tracked so the keeper will probably be called upon for a few efforts at goal. On the other hand, Crowley and Kennedy will fancy themselves if left 1 on 1 at the other end, looking at the success Roscommon had with limited opportunities in the inside forward line last Saturday. Hopefully we'll learn from last week and be a bit more clinical down the stretch with execution. A repeat of this would do fine...
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Post by kot on May 15, 2024 14:46:44 GMT
I find the man to be a bit of a bluffer myself. Was a central pillar, along with our own former President, in giving Dublin a disproportionate amount of funds. He used to love then justifying it by referencing Armagh Div 3 ladies hurling analogies or something similarly daft. Now his latest is to try and justify GAAGo when it clearer is nothing more than a money maker. He referenced all the stadium upgrades, presumambly no stadium ever got upgraded so before this GaaGo money spinner dating back to 1884? Are you sure of that.The money thing with Dublin started around 2007 I think and did nt think Burns was involved at all.I know Sean Kelly was. Money thing actually kicked off in 2001 but Jarlath Burns was definitely pivotal in maintaining & defending it a few years back when he was core in the administrattion. Rather than acknowledging the concerns and acting on it, he was more interested in doing the media rounds and drawing nonsense comparisons and scenarios that were apples and oranges much like he is doing now on the Free-To-Air vs. GaaGo.
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Post by kerryexile5 on May 15, 2024 20:19:27 GMT
Are you sure of that.The money thing with Dublin started around 2007 I think and did nt think Burns was involved at all.I know Sean Kelly was. Money thing actually kicked off in 2001 but Jarlath Burns was definitely pivotal in maintaining & defending it a few years back when he was core in the administrattion. Rather than acknowledging the concerns and acting on it, he was more interested in doing the media rounds and drawing nonsense comparisons and scenarios that were apples and oranges much like he is doing now on the Free-To-Air vs. GaaGo. Strip away all the crowd pleasing speeches this year when presenting the cups at the hurling and football finals and you will find you don’t get what you see with Jarlath. I know for a fact he is very friendly with Declan McBennett, RTÉ’s Group Head of Sport and Director of GAAGO in South Armagh GAA circles. Also as GAA president he is going to back GAAGO to the last as this money maker has to be seen as wonderful bla bla Bla.
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Post by royalkerryfan on May 15, 2024 20:31:47 GMT
Jesus the Irish really are world champions at whinging and moaning.
The amount of GAA bashing about GAAGo is a joke.
Its a great service.
Yes there are flaws infrastructure that supports broadband and the games that are shown.
But honestly this notion that our games should be free because some auldfella marks the pitch or makes the tea in the local club deserves to watch any game he wants.
You pay into see your club games yet somehow the intercounty should be free.
The GAA basically provide sporting facilities in every community in this country yet people think its magic beans that pays for it all.
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Post by exiled on May 15, 2024 20:32:57 GMT
Money thing actually kicked off in 2001 but Jarlath Burns was definitely pivotal in maintaining & defending it a few years back when he was core in the administrattion. Rather than acknowledging the concerns and acting on it, he was more interested in doing the media rounds and drawing nonsense comparisons and scenarios that were apples and oranges much like he is doing now on the Free-To-Air vs. GaaGo. Strip away all the crowd pleasing speeches this year when presenting the cups at the hurling and football finals and you will find you don’t get what you see with Jarlath. I know for a fact he is very friendly with Declan McBennett, RTÉ’s Group Head of Sport and Director of GAAGO in South Armagh GAA circles. Also as GAA president he is going to back GAAGO to the last as this money maker has to be seen as wonderful bla bla Bla. After having looked in Jarlath Burns CV I haven't seen any reference to him bee involved in anything of consequence in the GAA central council before 2015. Just a vendetta on here. I respect him as a player and advocate of player welfare over the years. And I have no problem whatsoever with GAAGO. Lived abroad for years and I wish it was available then as well as Clubber and TG4 youtube. Give the man a break. It was one of our own who gave the Dubs all the money by taking the Bertie bribe for Croker.
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Post by exiled on May 15, 2024 20:34:13 GMT
Jesus the Irish really are world champions at whinging and moaning. The amount of GAA bashing about GAAGo is a joke. Its a great service. Yes there are flaws infrastructure that supports broadband and the games that are shown. But honestly this notion that our games should be free because some auldfella marks the pitch or makes the tea in the local club deserves to watch any game he wants. You pay into see your club games yet somehow the intercounty should be free. The GAA basically provide sporting facilities in every community in this country yet people think its magic beans that pays for it all. Well said. Jesus wept.
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Post by veteran on May 15, 2024 20:52:14 GMT
Jesus the Irish really are world champions at whinging and moaning. The amount of GAA bashing about GAAGo is a joke. Its a great service. Yes there are flaws infrastructure that supports broadband and the games that are shown. But honestly this notion that our games should be free because some auldfella marks the pitch or makes the tea in the local club deserves to watch any game he wants. You pay into see your club games yet somehow the intercounty should be free. The GAA basically provide sporting facilities in every community in this country yet people think its magic beans that pays for it all. How right you are , Royal. As late as today I heard one of our politicians moan that broadband reception is poor in some areas and therefore that is another argument against GAA Go. . I wonder is that the fault of the GAA or politicians? Hypocrisy gone wild.
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Post by mossie on May 15, 2024 21:18:16 GMT
Really like what Tomas has done with this team irrespective of how the final goes Tomás deserves great credit full stop. I was talking to a few squad members & they love his approach - common theme is the lack of passing/possession drills; instead, conditioned games are more likely to be kick passing only or mini games where the ball CANNOT be passed backwards by hand or foot - it just might catch on !! I heard that too. I think Tomas changed approach this year? last year the approach wasnt quite the same
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Post by mossie on May 15, 2024 21:22:44 GMT
Jesus the Irish really are world champions at whinging and moaning. The amount of GAA bashing about GAAGo is a joke. Its a great service. Yes there are flaws infrastructure that supports broadband and the games that are shown. But honestly this notion that our games should be free because some auldfella marks the pitch or makes the tea in the local club deserves to watch any game he wants. You pay into see your club games yet somehow the intercounty should be free. The GAA basically provide sporting facilities in every community in this country yet people think its magic beans that pays for it all. well said the whining about GAAGO is unreal for feck sake the amount of free to air GAA across RTE\TG4 this week is unreal GAAGO throws up more matches more options for everyone My life circumstances mean I cannot get to Kerry v Monaghan this weekend - now GAAGO mean I can watch it from afar. In times past i wouldnt have had that option an RTE\TG4 simply cannot show every match Thank you GAAGO and thanks you GAA
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Post by greengold35 on May 16, 2024 8:37:21 GMT
Tomás deserves great credit full stop. I was talking to a few squad members & they love his approach - common theme is the lack of passing/possession drills; instead, conditioned games are more likely to be kick passing only or mini games where the ball CANNOT be passed backwards by hand or foot - it just might catch on !! I heard that too. I think Tomas changed approach this year? last year the approach wasnt quite the same Yes - the addition of Aidan O’Shea also has been a big plus from what I have heard.
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