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Post by moth on Sept 13, 2022 9:05:01 GMT
Probably should not be a surprise that more players are getting injured. Running two football championships, both with 3 group games, means that some players are playing every week.
Need to give serious consideration to returning the county championship to either a straight knockout or give teams a second chance up to semi finals (old McDonagh cup format).
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Post by keane on Sept 13, 2022 9:11:46 GMT
How many more players are getting injured?
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Post by veteran on Sept 13, 2022 17:55:29 GMT
Joseph O’Connor sustained ACL injury against Na Gaeil according to Irish Examiner. Did look serious at the time, Get back soon, Joseph.
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Post by mike70 on Sept 13, 2022 18:36:39 GMT
Joseph O’Connor sustained ACL injury against Na Gaeil according to Irish Examiner. Did look serious at the time, Get back soon, Joseph. That’s tough, speedy recovery to Joe.
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Post by thehermit on Sept 13, 2022 18:45:05 GMT
Horrible news for Joe: www.irishexaminer.com/sport/gaa/arid-40960811.htmlI think he was poised to become a crucial starter for Kerry in the next season or two. At the minute its entirely possible he will miss all of the 2023 inter-county season. When I initially saw the Kerryman's story on twitter I thought it said it was a career ending situation so I suppose you have to be thankful its just a long injury layoff rather than that!
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Post by kerrybhoy06 on Sept 13, 2022 19:45:06 GMT
Joseph O’Connor sustained ACL injury against Na Gaeil according to Irish Examiner. Did look serious at the time, Get back soon, Joseph. Ah f*ck, poor fella. All the best with the recovery and hopefully we’ll see him back in a Kerry jersey soon
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Post by horsebox77 on Sept 13, 2022 20:10:21 GMT
I didn't see the injury but when i heard the discription I feared the worst.
For some reason the majority of ACL injuries don't occur in contact but more in just general play or self movement.
Either way, gutted for the young man, just when his intercounty career was about to explode.
Best wishes and speedy recovery to the young man.
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Post by blacksheep21 on Sept 13, 2022 20:16:46 GMT
That is a big shame for him. He has gone from a massive high to a massive low over the last two month. It is a long road back but he only has to look at his strand road midfield Kerry team mate to see that it can be done.
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Post by hurlingman on Sept 14, 2022 6:18:43 GMT
Not sure if anyone noticed but St Brendan's had lads whos clubs were listed as Kilmoyley and Ballyheigue at the weekend. Thought it was interesting to see. likewise Brandon Barrett was down as Causeway, an effort to give football a bit of profile in these hurling strongholds I would say I actually didn't even notice that. They're playing football with Ardfert is it?
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Post by onlykerry on Sept 14, 2022 10:18:13 GMT
I didn't see the injury but when i heard the discription I feared the worst. For some reason the majority of ACL injuries don't occur in contact but more in just general play or self movement. Either way, gutted for the young man, just when his intercounty career was about to explode. Best wishes and speedy recovery to the young man. The number of ACL injuries is crazy and as another poster mentioned very many of them are non contact injuries where a sudden change of direction is often the cause. Typically 12 months in the amateur code before a lad is back - hopefully he makes a full recovery.
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Post by Mickmack on Sept 14, 2022 12:22:46 GMT
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Post by kerrybhoy06 on Sept 14, 2022 12:29:00 GMT
likewise Brandon Barrett was down as Causeway, an effort to give football a bit of profile in these hurling strongholds I would say I actually didn't even notice that. They're playing football with Ardfert is it? Ardfert have always picked up players off the likes of Kilmoyley, ballyheigue and causeway as it’s usually the closest football club. while Na Gaeil pick players up off abbeydorney as there is a bit of a crossover in their catchment areas around listellick, essentially na gaeil is one side of bullock hill and the road to abbeydorney is the other side.
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Post by mossie on Sept 14, 2022 20:22:18 GMT
Probably should not be a surprise that more players are getting injured. Running two football championships, both with 3 group games, means that some players are playing every week. Need to give serious consideration to returning the county championship to either a straight knockout or give teams a second chance up to semi finals (old McDonagh cup format). Players have too many games now , well the ones playing club and senior county championship have anyway. 2 round robin groups stages is a bit much. it will lead to injuries basically on the road 6 weeks in a row
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Post by Mickmack on Sept 14, 2022 21:36:12 GMT
It appears to me that its players from the senior clubs that are getting injured and if thats the case, its hardly a surprise.
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Post by kerrybhoy06 on Sept 15, 2022 7:05:52 GMT
It appears to me that its players from the senior clubs that are getting injured and if thats the case, its hardly a surprise. Why is that? A junior or inter team getting too the final of their comp would have 1 more game than the senior teams. Do you mean because of the higher intensity of the senior club games?
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Post by Mickmack on Sept 15, 2022 7:29:13 GMT
It appears to me that its players from the senior clubs that are getting injured and if thats the case, its hardly a surprise. Why is that? A junior or inter team getting too the final of their comp would have 1 more game than the senior teams. Do you mean because of the higher intensity of the senior club games? If DC was playing with KoR or Stacks or Kenmare he may not have been rested last weekend whereas EK can do that.
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Post by hurlingman on Sept 15, 2022 7:31:48 GMT
It appears to me that its players from the senior clubs that are getting injured and if thats the case, its hardly a surprise. A lot of them have also been part of the Kerry panel so would have been going for most of the year at this point. It's something that might have to be good at going forward. Otherwise fellas won't commit.
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Post by blacksheep21 on Sept 15, 2022 8:17:32 GMT
Have there been that many injuries over the past few weeks because of the club schedule?
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Post by homerj on Sept 15, 2022 8:26:39 GMT
Have there been that many injuries over the past few weeks because of the club schedule? Seems alot of our Kerry players are injured anyway at the moment. Must check all the match reports and count how many were missing.
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Post by Annascaultilidie on Sept 15, 2022 8:56:13 GMT
Has anyone asked the players what they think? Surely they're delighted to be playing games.
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Post by keane on Sept 15, 2022 9:12:48 GMT
It's amazing how the round robin in the championship has led to so many injuries before most of it has even been played.
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Post by onlykerry on Sept 15, 2022 10:08:29 GMT
A proper analysis of injuries needs to be undertaken - from those I know it is difficult to see a pattern. One lad had been away for several months and had only returned to playing games when his injury struck (senior club but not intercounty) whereas others seemed to be playing week in week out.
For a club side the injuries are of greater impact as they tend to have smaller panels and certainly a smaller cadre of impactful players. No real solution to this other than putting a reins on the creation of super divisional sides - a topic that needs to be addressed over the winter and clubs need to speak up on this and get it sorted.
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Post by Whosinmidfield on Sept 15, 2022 13:19:12 GMT
Garvey’s team of the week
1. Sean Coffey 2. Colin Griffin 3. Jack Sherwood 4. Brian Crowley 5. Cian Gammell 6. Damien Bourke 7. Michael Potts 8. Rob O’Sé 9. Graham O’Sullivan 10. Ruairi Murphy 11. Shane O’Callaghan 12. Stephen O’Brien 13. Kieran Dennehy 14. Martin Stack 15. Conor Hayes
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Post by buck02 on Sept 15, 2022 14:03:30 GMT
A proper analysis of injuries needs to be undertaken - from those I know it is difficult to see a pattern. One lad had been away for several months and had only returned to playing games when his injury struck (senior club but not intercounty) whereas others seemed to be playing week in week out. For a club side the injuries are of greater impact as they tend to have smaller panels and certainly a smaller cadre of impactful players. No real solution to this other than putting a reins on the creation of super divisional sides - a topic that needs to be addressed over the winter and clubs need to speak up on this and get it sorted. What have "super divisional sides" got to do with injuries. And how would having two instead of one East Kerry divisional side lead to less injuries. In such a scenario you'd have more players playing Senior County Championship and therefore more chance of injury surely?
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Post by greengold35 on Sept 15, 2022 16:15:44 GMT
One of the key recommendations of the review of NK football chaired by Eamonn Fitzmaurice was the need to recognise the dual focus of hurling & football clubs & avoid fixture clashes where possible. The semi final of this years U-21 hurling competition between Crotta & Ballyduff was played last Sunday in direct competition with Shannon Rangers vs Kenmare Shamrocks - Ballyduff would have had possibly 3 hurlers in contention for places on SR team.
The final of this competition is now fixed for Sat next between Crotta & Abbeydorney , 24 hours before Feale Rangers/South Kerry - Crotta have Cillian Trant & Rory O’Mahony involved in both squads - efforts to postpone /rearrange the hurling fixture have apparently fallen on deaf ears!!
If the county board ignore a simple recommendation & continue to disadvantage teams in this manner, one would wonder if they really are serious about reform??
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Post by homerj on Sept 15, 2022 17:30:37 GMT
One of the key recommendations of the review of NK football chaired by Eamonn Fitzmaurice was the need to recognise the dual focus of hurling & football clubs & avoid fixture clashes where possible. The semi final of this years U-21 hurling competition between Crotta & Ballyduff was played last Sunday in direct competition with Shannon Rangers vs Kenmare Shamrocks - Ballyduff would have had possibly 3 hurlers in contention for places on SR team. The final of this competition is now fixed for Sat next between Crotta & Abbeydorney , 24 hours before Feale Rangers/South Kerry - Crotta have Cillian Trant & Rory O’Mahony involved in both squads - efforts to postpone /rearrange the hurling fixture have apparently fallen on deaf ears!! If the county board ignore a simple recommendation & continue to disadvantage teams in this manner, one would wonder if they really are serious about reform?? Shocking, wouldn't happen to the clubs. There really has to be a huge effort put into the entire thing from county board to promote the divisional teams.
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Post by onlykerry on Sept 15, 2022 19:43:50 GMT
A proper analysis of injuries needs to be undertaken - from those I know it is difficult to see a pattern. One lad had been away for several months and had only returned to playing games when his injury struck (senior club but not intercounty) whereas others seemed to be playing week in week out. For a club side the injuries are of greater impact as they tend to have smaller panels and certainly a smaller cadre of impactful players. No real solution to this other than putting a reins on the creation of super divisional sides - a topic that needs to be addressed over the winter and clubs need to speak up on this and get it sorted. What have "super divisional sides" got to do with injuries. And how would having two instead of one East Kerry divisional side lead to less injuries. In such a scenario you'd have more players playing Senior County Championship and therefore more chance of injury surely? The thread is called County Championship 2022 - injuries is a topic within the thread - injuries for squads will play a major role in their ability to be competitive, big squads will not be impacted as much - does that spell it out clearly enough for you.
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Post by diego on Sept 15, 2022 21:35:23 GMT
East Kerry v Spa (5.30pm in Fitzgerald Stadium on Saturday) and the Rahillys v Dingle game in the same group at 3.30pm on Sunday are being streamed this weekend. Should be 2 decent games with the Sunday game in Strand Road having a knockout look to it.
The Clubber.ie service feels a little inferior to what was on offer in previous years. The commentators are the same as with previous providers, and i like listening to Marc Ó Sé but would it be too much to ask for a scoreboard that updates within seconds rather than minutes of a score? Also would be good if the streaming could start a few minutes earlier. Maybe 10 minutes instead of 3 or 4 mins before throw in, so you can get the old casting to the tv and volume and all that set up without too much time pressure. Also the sound quality of the commentary and sound effects from the ground have been poor enough. Plenty time for improvement though before the knockout stages.
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Post by Joxer on Sept 16, 2022 9:58:59 GMT
If Marc O'Se says 'I tell you what' once, he says it 100 times during a game!
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Post by Mickmack on Sept 16, 2022 12:09:04 GMT
If Marc O'Se says 'I tell you what' once, he says it 100 times during a game! Twas hard going alright the last night but maybe he will tone it down a bit the next day.
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