mike70
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Post by mike70 on Jan 31, 2023 17:22:14 GMT
Word is Rahillys back in training last night, hoping for a final call up😂😜
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Post by kerrybhoy06 on Jan 31, 2023 17:57:17 GMT
Word is Rahillys back in training last night, hoping for a final call up😂😜 So you’re saying that Larry McCarthy got my letters?
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Post by greengold35 on Jan 31, 2023 19:16:06 GMT
What a mess, that could have been far less embarrassing for the Association if they simply declared a replay necessary in the 24 hours after the game. I agree but there is a process to be followed in any appeal - referee’s report would have to be submitted in the first instance & any issues arising from that would be communicated to the teams; apparently ref failed to mention 16 players on the pitch which then put the onus back on the Glen - I find it amazing that ref omitted to mention this. Glen really were put in a no win situation- there was a clear breach of rule & if GAA failed to act on it, it could lead to many objections on various issues down the road. The question of who is responsible for the monitoring of subs entering/exiting pitch seems to be Kilmacud’s argument, arguing that officials have that responsibility so no blame can be attached to them. This saga will run & run I think - I think replay is correct decision but cannot see one happening!!
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Post by greengold35 on Jan 31, 2023 19:17:51 GMT
If Crokes don’t show up for the final then not only should there be a sanction on the club but also on their county board. Think if this happens that they be fined & barred from senior competition outside of Dublin for a period.
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horsebox77
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Post by horsebox77 on Jan 31, 2023 19:50:45 GMT
I think both clubs lose in my opinion and they are the victim of bad officiating by the fourth official
I don’t know will Crokes play the replay, I don’t know if I was over them would I be happy to agree to the fixture.
I always had the opinion that games should be settled on the field not the boardroom,
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Post by Jo90 on Jan 31, 2023 20:33:03 GMT
If Crokes don’t show up for the final then not only should there be a sanction on the club but also on their county board. You're saying kick Dublin out of the 2023 Championship? Yeah, I think that's only fair. It would be a great fillip for this year's Leinster championship.
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Post by kerrybhoy06 on Jan 31, 2023 20:58:07 GMT
If Crokes don’t show up for the final then not only should there be a sanction on the club but also on their county board. You're saying kick Dublin out of the 2023 Championship? Yeah, I think that's only fair. It would be a great fillip for this year's Leinster championship. Min of 5 year ban and upto a max of 15. Will be reduced if they agree to spend their money building their own ground, like every other county have to do
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Post by taibhse on Feb 1, 2023 17:23:07 GMT
I think both clubs lose in my opinion and they are the victim of bad officiating by the fourth official I don’t know will Crokes play the replay, I don’t know if I was over them would I be happy to agree to the fixture. I always had the opinion that games should be settled on the field not the boardroom, I think that there is no fourth official in Club Games. The referee is handed a slip by the substitute and he (the referee) is responsible for the exchange of players. The 4th official is part of inter-county games only.
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horsebox77
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Post by horsebox77 on Feb 1, 2023 18:25:15 GMT
I think both clubs lose in my opinion and they are the victim of bad officiating by the fourth official I don’t know will Crokes play the replay, I don’t know if I was over them would I be happy to agree to the fixture. I always had the opinion that games should be settled on the field not the boardroom, I think that there is no fourth official in Club Games. The referee is handed a slip by the substitute and he (the referee) is responsible for the exchange of players. The 4th official is part of inter-county games only. You could be right but I’m sure I heard one of the talk shows or podcasts mentioning the fourth official. I imagine being Croke Park and an all Ireland final that adequate cover would be available, I suppose if only three officials were there what would happen if one got injured? Normally a linesman takes over but I’m sure there is a fourth for high profile games.
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Post by thehermit on Feb 1, 2023 20:27:57 GMT
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Post by mike70 on Feb 3, 2023 21:02:03 GMT
Hats off to the Glen, honourable decision by the club, was going to be never ending, only a distraction, lessons for the GAA, in fairness to KC, all they wanted was to give a few fellas a run in the dying minutes of the game, run down the clock in the process, was never intended to have 16 on the field, don’t think it effected the outcome either, a fine should be imposed for sure.
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Post by blacksheep21 on Feb 3, 2023 21:24:04 GMT
This felt like the outcome for a while. Glen wanted to make a point but I don’t think they ever really wanted a replay.
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Post by Kerryman Randy Savage on Feb 3, 2023 22:25:58 GMT
A honest mistake is an extra man on and offering a replay, not honest to appeal natural justice. Glen waited for Kilmacud to appeal to show them and the GAA up. We all heard rubbish about how Kilmacud would hand back the cup than have a replay, yeah that's a known lie. Only one of Glen, Kilmacud and the GAA came out well here.
2023 All Ireland Club Champions Kilmacud Crokes*
Wear that * proud, you earned it
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Post by clarinman on Feb 4, 2023 17:41:02 GMT
On on it goes! Now I'm hearing that Crokes still have to win their appeal and if they lose there will be no champions this year. That makes no sense to me. If Crokes lose their appeal, the decision on a replay stands. Glen say they won't replay. So if kilmacud turn up for the replay, they will be awarded cup. Am I missing something here?
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Post by Kerryman Randy Savage on Feb 4, 2023 19:47:17 GMT
On on it goes! Now I'm hearing that Crokes still have to win their appeal and if they lose there will be no champions this year. That makes no sense to me. If Crokes lose their appeal, the decision on a replay stands. Glen say they won't replay. So if kilmacud turn up for the replay, they will be awarded cup. Am I missing something here? The GAA's current decision is to disregard the original result. They can't just overturn an earlier decision for the lulz. The original result cannot stand without Crokes winning the appeal so the appeal needs to happen. If Crokes lose that, they have to turn up to the replay to claim the cup. Again they would rather hand the cup over than turn up to the replay 😉
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Post by kerrybhoy06 on Feb 5, 2023 18:36:57 GMT
That makes no sense to me. If Crokes lose their appeal, the decision on a replay stands. Glen say they won't replay. So if kilmacud turn up for the replay, they will be awarded cup. Am I missing something here? The GAA's current decision is to disregard the original result. They can't just overturn an earlier decision for the lulz. The original result cannot stand without Crokes winning the appeal so the appeal needs to happen. If Crokes lose that, they have to turn up to the replay to claim the cup. Again they would rather hand the cup over than turn up to the replay 😉 That’s my understanding of it too. The CCCC made a finding and will thus have to have it overturned. If not overturned then Crokes will have to show up for the replay and line out. They tried to make it a farce by refusing to compete in a replay and it now looks like the only way that they can win is in a farcical way
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Post by greengold35 on Feb 10, 2023 18:43:36 GMT
Draws for this years club championships being made on Tuesday night next - semi finalists from last years intermediate, premier junior & junior are seeded.
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