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Post by Ballyfireside on Jan 18, 2023 14:52:02 GMT
The ban on accepting the cup was done away with so he won't be in any trouble for that. The red card was for hands to the head but I really don't think it will get more than the minimum. I'd be very surprised if he got a "very lengthy ban" in regards to the ref given what he actually said. He didn't insult the ref or call him any names, rather he praised him for the job he did. All he said was he Some folk mightn't like what he said and feel a speech should always be the traditional thanking everyone, everyone and everything is great and anything negative that happened should be brushed under the carpet and forgotten about nevermind he was clearly still bleeding from a deliberate assault while making the speech. If I was Paudie, get in contact to apologise to the ref in person as quickly as possible we saw how the referees chose to turn a blind eye to assaults on Galvin (PG got a yellow card for a punch received below the waist) and I fear Paudie will have a tough Summer from the other refs who may also turn a blind eye. I can't see refs abandoning Paudie and what he did was bad only because it was to the head, regardless of the impact. Paudie did it openly and he was obviously in a poor mental state at that stage anyway - what refs get revenge on is if laddos are trying to fool him, drawing a markers hand, etc and then pretending to be pulled down. Dgal's Murphy got this in the '14 final and where the ref as good as told us on camera that 'sauce for the goose was sauce for the gander' and so Garda AO'M could continue to interrogate the suspect, son of a Garda also - sparks or what? Ah two hardy boyos, two of the best! And sure weren't they both handy actors too - Hollywood, Ballyfirewood beckons! What is amazing or not is that there is so little focus on how Stewartstown arguably left victory behind them and therein is a big lesson, a harsh one. They were decent footballers and would be better again with discipline. Did the physicality hamper Fossa? - well not nearly as much as it dragged down the inflicters IMHO. |
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Post by Seoirse Ui Duic on Jan 18, 2023 15:07:57 GMT
I think they focused on the speech because it was just very unusual. It didn't get to much negativity from what I saw or heard. The OTAM lads laughed about it and absolutely went to town of Tyrone football culture. It's absolutely remarkable that a speech is being discussed when a lad nearly had his jaw broken and another had his testicles squeezed... they were absolute dirt. I really hope that is the case for most indeed. I actually send the video of the elbow assault to a cousin in Amsterdam, who works as an international criminal lawyer, and he also argued that there should be a criminal procedure against Anton Coyle. If this happened outside sports it would be a clear cut case and a jail sentence for Mr. Coyle. I think that is exactly what is needed. They need to make an example of Mr. Coyle, so that such a heinous act will never be seen again. There is no reason whatsoever that an elbow should be raised and aimed at someone's fist. I've checked with umpires and referees of different martial arts as well, and only Muay Thai and MMA allow these in certain circumstances and even then it not allowed from a blind angle or at speed. What Mr. Coyle did is not allowed in any sport, not even the most brutal of fighting sports. He should not get away unpunished. |
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Post by horsebox77 on Jan 18, 2023 15:25:42 GMT
Would this topic get as much oxygen if it was mid season, I think the lull prior to League commencement leaves the media with blank columns.
The sooner the league starts and we get to discuss tangible topics the better.
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Post by ciarraimick on Jan 18, 2023 15:26:43 GMT
I think they focused on the speech because it was just very unusual. It didn't get to much negativity from what I saw or heard. The OTAM lads laughed about it and absolutely went to town of Tyrone football culture. It's absolutely remarkable that a speech is being discussed when a lad nearly had his jaw broken and another had his testicles squeezed... they were absolute dirt. I really hope that is the case for most indeed. I actually send the video of the elbow assault to a cousin in Amsterdam, who works as an international criminal lawyer, and he also argued that there should be a criminal procedure against Anton Coyle. If this happened outside sports it would be a clear cut case and a jail sentence for Mr. Coyle. I think that is exactly what is needed. They need to make an example of Mr. Coyle, so that such a heinous act will never be seen again. There is no reason whatsoever that an elbow should be raised and aimed at someone's fist. I've checked with umpires and referees of different martial arts as well, and only Muay Thai and MMA allow these in certain circumstances and even then it not allowed from a blind angle or at speed. What Mr. Coyle did is not allowed in any sport, not even the most brutal of fighting sports. He should not get away unpunished. Good Post. Yes elbows are not allowed in most combat sports. An elbow is a lethal wpon and if struck at the temple can cause serious injury even death. The dirtiest and most dangerous bang one gets is the one you don't expect or can't see. In boxing you have the chance to defend yourself and yes sometimes you get caught with a pinch you can't see but you are always aware it can happen so you ré half ready. In football while running for a ball or releasing a ball like Paudie the last thing you expect is an elbow to the face so you have no protection whatsoever. The culprit knew this too which not only makes it dangerous but pure cowardly aswell. That Coyle is as yellow as you ll get. As the tramp was banned for 36 weeks previous he should get a 2 tear ban From reading other websites etc most Tyrone people have condemned that assault too. |
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Post by Seoirse Ui Duic on Jan 18, 2023 15:35:43 GMT
I really hope that is the case for most indeed. I actually send the video of the elbow assault to a cousin in Amsterdam, who works as an international criminal lawyer, and he also argued that there should be a criminal procedure against Anton Coyle. If this happened outside sports it would be a clear cut case and a jail sentence for Mr. Coyle. I think that is exactly what is needed. They need to make an example of Mr. Coyle, so that such a heinous act will never be seen again. There is no reason whatsoever that an elbow should be raised and aimed at someone's fist. I've checked with umpires and referees of different martial arts as well, and only Muay Thai and MMA allow these in certain circumstances and even then it not allowed from a blind angle or at speed. What Mr. Coyle did is not allowed in any sport, not even the most brutal of fighting sports. He should not get away unpunished. Good Post. Yes elbows are not allowed in most combat sports. An elbow is a lethal wpon and if struck at the temple can cause serious injury even death. The dirtiest and most dangerous bang one gets is the one you don't expect or can't see. In boxing you have the chance to defend yourself and yes sometimes you get caught with a pinch you can't see but you are always aware it can happen so you ré half ready. In football while running for a ball or releasing a ball like Paudie the last thing you expect is an elbow to the face so you have no protection whatsoever. The culprit knew this too which not only makes it dangerous but pure cowardly aswell. That Coyle is as yellow as you ll get. As the tramp was banned for 36 weeks previous he should get a 2 tear ban From reading other websites etc most Tyrone people have condemned that assault too. Indeed. I haven't met a single Tyrone person who even tried to defend that elbow. I have no problem with any of the other red cards, and would not say Stewartstown are a dirty team, and neither was it in any way a dirty game. I do however feel very strongly that Mr. Coyle should be prosecuted not just by the GAA and given a lifetime ban, but also by the law. And while I'm sticking the neck out and saying bad things, I have to admit that I also don't know how this works with two different jurisdictions, as Mr. Coyle is a UK citizen, and assaulted an irish citizen while in the republic of Ireland. As the assault happened in Croke Park I assume the GAA has to start a criminal procedure against him at the Dublin Criminal Courts of Justice. |
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Post by Seoirse Ui Duic on Jan 18, 2023 15:39:40 GMT
To get back to club championships:
I have a new car and intend to drive up to Ballybofey for the match next week. I haven't made any long trips with the car yet, so I was planning to go to Dublin this Sunday. Since then I've been invited to a commemoration in Dublin for family members who were killed during the holocaust. I now have a spare ticket for the hurling and football senior finals, if someone wants it.
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Post by royalkerryfan on Jan 18, 2023 15:51:22 GMT
Good Post. Yes elbows are not allowed in most combat sports. An elbow is a lethal wpon and if struck at the temple can cause serious injury even death. The dirtiest and most dangerous bang one gets is the one you don't expect or can't see. In boxing you have the chance to defend yourself and yes sometimes you get caught with a pinch you can't see but you are always aware it can happen so you ré half ready. In football while running for a ball or releasing a ball like Paudie the last thing you expect is an elbow to the face so you have no protection whatsoever. The culprit knew this too which not only makes it dangerous but pure cowardly aswell. That Coyle is as yellow as you ll get. As the tramp was banned for 36 weeks previous he should get a 2 tear ban From reading other websites etc most Tyrone people have condemned that assault too. Indeed. I haven't met a single Tyrone person who even tried to defend that elbow. I have no problem with any of the other red cards, and would not say Stewartstown are a dirty team, and neither was it in any way a dirty game. I do however feel very strongly that Mr. Coyle should be prosecuted not just by the GAA and given a lifetime ban, but also by the law. And while I'm sticking the neck out and saying bad things, I have to admit that I also don't know how this works with two different jurisdictions, as Mr. Coyle is a UK citizen, and assaulted an irish citizen while in the republic of Ireland. As the assault happened in Croke Park I assume the GAA has to start a criminal procedure against him at the Dublin Criminal Courts of Justice. What about DC having his testicles squeezed potentially doing very serious damage. A really bad incident happened in a Meath club minor match a few years back similarly and the offender ended up in court. |
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Post by royalkerryfan on Jan 18, 2023 15:55:03 GMT
Would this topic get as much oxygen if it was mid season, I think the lull prior to League commencement leaves the media with blank columns. The sooner the league starts and we get to discuss tangible topics the better. Paper never refused ink me thinks I think it would horse if I'm honest. Some of the incidents on Sunday just cant be glossed over. |
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Post by Seoirse Ui Duic on Jan 18, 2023 16:00:52 GMT
Indeed. I haven't met a single Tyrone person who even tried to defend that elbow. I have no problem with any of the other red cards, and would not say Stewartstown are a dirty team, and neither was it in any way a dirty game. I do however feel very strongly that Mr. Coyle should be prosecuted not just by the GAA and given a lifetime ban, but also by the law. And while I'm sticking the neck out and saying bad things, I have to admit that I also don't know how this works with two different jurisdictions, as Mr. Coyle is a UK citizen, and assaulted an irish citizen while in the republic of Ireland. As the assault happened in Croke Park I assume the GAA has to start a criminal procedure against him at the Dublin Criminal Courts of Justice. What about DC having his testicles squeezed potentially doing very serious damage. A really bad incident happened in a Meath club minor match a few years back similarly and the offender ended up in court. Another completely needless incident as well of course, but not life threatening. If it was up to me, and it isn't, I would indeed have these cases in court. They have no place in our gaelic games. I have no problem with a teak tough defender, we've had tough guys in Kerry ourselves. O'Mahony, Galvin, Páidí, just to name two, but they weren't dirty, just very tough. They could dish it out as well as they could take it. Without resolute action the GAA is likely to find itself in a lot of trouble soon. I remember an issue a few years ago where a schoolboy was tackled in the air in rugby, something which happens constantly in football, and he fell on his neck and broke his neck. Dead. That is where gaelic games are heading, someone being killed |
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Post by ciarraimick on Jan 18, 2023 16:29:43 GMT
Indeed. I haven't met a single Tyrone person who even tried to defend that elbow. I have no problem with any of the other red cards, and would not say Stewartstown are a dirty team, and neither was it in any way a dirty game. I do however feel very strongly that Mr. Coyle should be prosecuted not just by the GAA and given a lifetime ban, but also by the law. And while I'm sticking the neck out and saying bad things, I have to admit that I also don't know how this works with two different jurisdictions, as Mr. Coyle is a UK citizen, and assaulted an irish citizen while in the republic of Ireland. As the assault happened in Croke Park I assume the GAA has to start a criminal procedure against him at the Dublin Criminal Courts of Justice. What about DC having his testicles squeezed potentially doing very serious damage. A really bad incident happened in a Meath club minor match a few years back similarly and the offender ended up in court. Yes that's a horrendous act too if it's factual. I've been sent the "testicle incident" on WhatsApp and I can't say with certainty it happened. It sort of looks like David is getting his privates interfered with but not conclusive either and he does nt show any sign of pain either. However if it happened it's also indefensible. |
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Post by boherbee on Jan 22, 2023 11:52:54 GMT
Talk of typical Tyrone thuggery was unfair – Stewartstown bore the brunt of bad refereeing
Joe Brolly
Problems caused by wrong red and non-red cards
January 22 2023 02:30 AM
The Policing Board’s report last week shows how extraordinarily peaceful the North has become. PSNI officers have only discharged a shot five times in the last ten years, the most recent being an unintentional discharge in June 2022. The other four shots were fired into the air outside Omagh police station after Tyrone won the Sam Maguire in 2021.
Last Sunday’s All-Ireland junior club final had everything except shots fired into the air.
In a marvellously entertaining first half, both teams looked way above junior standard, and played with a sense of adventure way above senior standard. As anticipated, it boiled down to Stewartstown Harps versus David Clifford. Paudie, who plays at centre-back to allow him the freedom to attack, was faithfully man marked and got no freedom at all.
Sadly, the second half was spoiled. I watched it again on Monday and the rot started when the big Fossa corner-forward, former Kerry minor Emmet O’Shea, fell down after Harps defender Darren Devlin lightly brushed his face. O’Shea made a meal of it. And the reaction to this tells you how our game has been compromised by cynicism. Devlin shouldn’t have put his hand on him was the theme. Not: young O’Shea made a fool of himself, embarrassing himself and his parish.
It is a terrible pity that we have moved so swiftly to a culture where feigning injury resulting in an opponent being sent off is celebrated as a success.
The sending off was for ‘striking’ and is likely to be overturned on the basis of the TV footage. This is precisely what happened in the case of Tyrone’s Ronan McNamee when he was sent off a few years ago by David Gough. Having viewed the footage, it was clear that what McNamee had done was push/touch the face, not strike, and his red card for striking was revoked.
For the avoidance of doubt, a strike is defined as follows: “To hit forcibly and deliberately with one’s hand or a weapon or other implement.” Young O’Shea ought to be ashamed of himself, bringing that sort of soccer behaviour into Croke Park. I hope at least one of the elders in Fossa has a word with him about his responsibility to our great community.
That first sending off was bad but wasn’t what caused the real problem. The real problem came shortly afterwards, when the referee gave a yellow card to the big Fossa midfielder after an horrendous clothesline tackle on the on-rushing Stewartstown player. After that, you could feel the anger.
For me, it was that yellow card that changed the atmosphere. I have watched the incident several times and I find it impossible to understand the referee’s thinking.
The worst incident belonged to Anton Coyle, the Stewartstown substitute, a deliberate and outrageous elbow to Paudie Clifford’s face that ripped his lip open but could easily have broken his jaw. After that, it was mayhem.
David Clifford got sent off for a cynical foul and as always, took it like a man. Paudie got sent off for doing more or less the same as Darren Devlin and like Darren, is very likely to have the card overturned since it was not, in any interpretation of the definition, a “forcible hit”.
It is a pity that these errors ruined what was promising to be an absolutely barnstorming second half.
In the first period, the Harps full-forward Gareth Devlin looked like Frank McGuigan in the 1984 Ulster final, as he amassed 1-3 from play with both feet and the fist. Like Frank, he has the physique of a bag of blue circle cement and a delicate dummy that would arouse Owen Mulligan, a man not easily aroused.
Many people online commented on Big Gareth’s multiple tattoos. The website Tyrone Tribulations helpfully explained that these were the menu from the local Chinese takeaway.
Clifford, meanwhile, was Clifford. On the morning of the game, several hours before throw-in, the engraver etched David Clifford’s name onto the man of the match trophy. Why wait?
The game was in the balance with Stewartstown clearly the better team. Without Clifford, Harps would have been All-Ireland champions. Of course, without Clifford, Galway would be All-Ireland champions too.
The second half began as the first had, but the wrong sending off and the non-sending off ruined the rest.
There was still time for an hilarious captain’s speech from Paudie Clifford, reminiscent of Father Ted when he won the Golden Cleric Award. Here is what Paudie said: “To the referee and the officials, obviously a very, a tough game to ref there at the end, ahm ... a good job other than there at the end when I was wrongly sent off ... ahm, ahm, just ... unbelievable how I was sent off.”
Luckily for the GAA community, he did not go on to read out a list of Liars, Cheats, or People Who Have Let Me Down.
The commentary afterwards was along the lines of typical Tyrone thuggery etc etc, which was unfair and was largely coloured by Anton Coyle’s very bad assault on Paudie.
If it had been the other way around, I think the media would have taken the following line: “Early in the second half, the Fossa corner-back touched his opponent, who promptly threw himself on the ground and feigned injury. Just another example of cheating by a Tyrone player to add to a long list of similar examples that has brought the county into disrepute.
“Shortly afterwards, the Stewartstown number eight was, amazingly, not sent off after a bad, very late assault, an incident that could have caused serious injury to the young Kerry forward. Indeed, it came as a relief to the crowd and no doubt his family when the young man was able to continue.
“The Fossa substitute was then sent off after what appeared to be a mistimed tackle, his elbow briefly coming in contact with an opponent’s face in a game that wasn’t in the least bit unsporting, save for the behaviour of the Tyrone team. Stewartstown’s captain was then rightly sent off in the closing stages for appearing to eye gouge an opponent while he was on the ground.
“As for the winning speech by the Stewartstown captain, where he heavily criticised the referee and the officials, it was simply outrageous and the sort of unsporting outburst that has come to typify Tyrone GAA. The GAA must be considering whether to charge him with bringing the game into disrepute.”
Now. Tell me I’m wrong.
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Post by decondd2 on Jan 22, 2023 12:07:09 GMT
What an absolute load of *e.
Brolly deciding to take the opposite side to everyone else for the sake of it.
Emmett should have obviously invited the Tyrone man to punch him a few more times on the jaw to prove his manliness for Brolly.
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Post by hurlingman on Jan 22, 2023 12:20:04 GMT
What an absolute load of *e. Brolly deciding to take the opposite side to everyone else for the sake of it. Emmett should have obviously invited the Tyrone man to punch him a few more times on the jaw to prove his manliness for Brolly. How he's still given any sort of platform I don't know. One of the main culprits over the years of playing the Ulster victim card. |
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Post by blacksheep21 on Jan 22, 2023 13:03:26 GMT
Fair play to Brolly, he knows exactly to how to keep himself relevant
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Post by ciarraimick on Jan 22, 2023 13:07:20 GMT
Joe Brolly wrote on what he witnessed and heard.I have nt much time for Brolly especially on tv when he rants and raves and speaks without thinking.On paper though he has time to reflect and is a little better.Brolly being a Barrister is used to dealing with lies and turning them into truths.This time however I don't see anything wrong with his article.Most posters commenting after the junior final agreed exactly with what he said.Joe had a problem with Paudie s speech.Many of us on here agreed it was silly and cringy (although with hindsight maybe he was a bit concussed.)Joe wrote about Emmet O shea going to ground too easily which led to Tyrone s first red card.Again I agree with him here as did other posters.The back did wrong but O Shea as wrong too.The Fossa midfielder?Again I think he was lucky too to get away with a yellow in what was worse foul than the TYrone red card.He spoke highly of David.Now are some being too sensitive because Joe just wrote what many agree with and I ask what did he write that was false?
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Post by blacksheep21 on Jan 22, 2023 13:17:01 GMT
So predictable
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Post by blacksheep21 on Jan 22, 2023 13:28:38 GMT
Joe Brolly wrote on what he witnessed and heard.I have nt much time for Brolly especially on tv when he rants and raves and speaks without thinking.On paper though he has time to reflect and is a little better.Brolly being a Barrister is used to dealing with lies and turning them into truths.This time however I don't see anything wrong with his article.Most posters commenting after the junior final agreed exactly with what he said.Joe had a problem with Paudie s speech.Many of us on here agreed it was silly and cringy (although with hindsight maybe he was a bit concussed.)Joe wrote about Emmet O shea going to ground too easily which led to Tyrone s first red card.Again I agree with him here as did other posters.The back did wrong but O Shea as wrong too.The Fossa midfielder?Again I think he was lucky too to get away with a yellow in what was worse foul than the TYrone red card.He spoke highly of David.Now are some being too sensitive because Joe just wrote what many agree with and I ask what did he write that was false? So you think the first red card was wrong? Do you agree that O Shea should be ashamed of himself? Is he the only player that should ashamed of himself? Brolly mentioned no one else. Do you agree with the sentiment in the last four paragraphs? The answer must be yes based on your post above. Great to have you to provide such balance as always. |
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Post by ciarraimick on Jan 22, 2023 13:29:18 GMT
Brolly or I predictable ? Do you disagree with what Brolly said.Do you think O shea was right to dive ?If tha t happened to Jason Foley in first half in the all Ireland final most of us would be livid not at Jason but The player that dived.Was Paudie wrong in his speech? Was The Fossa midfielder lucky to escape with yellow? Also Joe wrote the worst of the lot was the challenge on Paudie which could have broken his jaw.He also spoke highly of David.Now tell me what part of Joe s article do you not agree with? |
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Post by blacksheep21 on Jan 22, 2023 13:32:11 GMT
Brolly or I predictable ? Do you disagree with what Brolly said.Do you think O shea was right to dive ?If tha t happened to Jason Foley in first half in the all Ireland final most of us would be livid not at Jason but The player that dived.Was Paudie wrong in his speech? Was The Fossa midfielder lucky to escape with yellow? Also Joe wrote the worst of the lot was the challenge on Paudie which could have broken his jaw.He also spoke highly of David.Now tell me what part of Joe s article do you not agree with? I have already answered. Can you now do so to my post |
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Post by blacksheep21 on Jan 22, 2023 13:35:43 GMT
Joe Brolly wrote on what he witnessed and heard.I have nt much time for Brolly especially on tv when he rants and raves and speaks without thinking.On paper though he has time to reflect and is a little better.Brolly being a Barrister is used to dealing with lies and turning them into truths.This time however I don't see anything wrong with his article.Most posters commenting after the junior final agreed exactly with what he said.Joe had a problem with Paudie s speech.Many of us on here agreed it was silly and cringy (although with hindsight maybe he was a bit concussed.)Joe wrote about Emmet O shea going to ground too easily which led to Tyrone s first red card.Again I agree with him here as did other posters.The back did wrong but O Shea as wrong too.The Fossa midfielder?Again I think he was lucky too to get away with a yellow in what was worse foul than the TYrone red card.He spoke highly of David.Now are some being too sensitive because Joe just wrote what many agree with and I ask what did he write that was false? The best bit here is the line that says Brolly as a barrister is used to dealing with lies and turning them into truths. I don’t think you understand what a barrister is, as a barrister can just as easily be turning truths into lies. |
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Post by ciarraimick on Jan 22, 2023 13:47:05 GMT
Joe Brolly wrote on what he witnessed and heard.I have nt much time for Brolly especially on tv when he rants and raves and speaks without thinking.On paper though he has time to reflect and is a little better.Brolly being a Barrister is used to dealing with lies and turning them into truths.This time however I don't see anything wrong with his article.Most posters commenting after the junior final agreed exactly with what he said.Joe had a problem with Paudie s speech.Many of us on here agreed it was silly and cringy (although with hindsight maybe he was a bit concussed.)Joe wrote about Emmet O shea going to ground too easily which led to Tyrone s first red card.Again I agree with him here as did other posters.The back did wrong but O Shea as wrong too.The Fossa midfielder?Again I think he was lucky too to get away with a yellow in what was worse foul than the TYrone red card.He spoke highly of David.Now are some being too sensitive because Joe just wrote what many agree with and I ask what did he write that was false? The best bit here is the line that says Brolly as a barrister is used to dealing with lies and turning them into truths. I don’t think you understand what a barrister is, as a barrister can just as easily be turning truths into lies. |
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Post by ciarraimick on Jan 22, 2023 13:57:43 GMT
Oh Im well aware of what a barrister is and does but I will agree with you on your sentence.Your questions.the first red card?yes probably deserved ared for stupidity alone but also yes I think O Shea was very wrong and should be embarrassed.I read an ex Kerry players book last year and he said his biggest ever regret playing football was taking a dive in a big match one time to get another player sent off.I call a spade a spade and don't go down the line of "They are all wrong bar my Johnny".Wrong is wrong everytime no matter what countyman is in question.Do you think diving and feigning injury is wrong?maybe you don't.I with Brolly here.Did you think the challenge on Paudie was the worst ? I Do and again im with Brolly here,Maybe you don't think it was bad.Maybe you think the Fossa midfielders clothesline tackle was fine.Again I don't and I did nt like Paudie words on ref either.Im so sorry I did nt .Please forgive me for my honesty.i must be the blacksheep of the forum although if you read back the post after the match most agree with most of \brolly s points.
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Post by blacksheep21 on Jan 22, 2023 14:17:58 GMT
Your attempts to provide ‘balance’ every time is odd.
You rushed to defend Brolly and challenge others for their opinion on the article as soon as you could without even knowing what their issue was, it’s quite bizarre. My issue with Brollys article and I won’t be the only one here is as follows.
Yes O Shea made a meal of the strike and I don’t condone that but to say that he should be ashamed of himself is completely ott. This is Brollys main point and the headline. He didn’t say anything this strong about any other players.
Brolly created his own fiction in the last 4 paragraphs regarding media persecution. This is nonsense and should be labelled as such.Brolly also said that the first re card was wrong and the Fossa yellow card was the turning point and lit the fuse. Again I would disagree with these points.
These are my issues with the article but you rushed to defend brolly and challenge others for their views without knowing what they were.
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Post by horsebox77 on Jan 22, 2023 16:01:54 GMT
Christ, that is some read, to be fair it’s hard to blame Brolly, I would lay the blame firmly with the indo editor. To encourage and more to the point finance such tripe is beyond me,
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Post by ciarraimick on Jan 22, 2023 16:27:49 GMT
Your attempts to provide ‘balance’ every time is odd. You rushed to defend Brolly and challenge others for their opinion on the article as soon as you could without even knowing what their issue was, it’s quite bizarre. My issue with Brollys article and I won’t be the only one here is as follows. Yes O Shea made a meal of the strike and I don’t condone that but to say that he should be ashamed of himself is completely ott. This is Brollys main point and the headline. He didn’t say anything this strong about any other players. Brolly created his own fiction in the last 4 paragraphs regarding media persecution. This is nonsense and should be labelled as such.Brolly also said that the first re card was wrong and the Fossa yellow card was the turning point and lit the fuse. Again I would disagree with these points. These are my issues with the article but you rushed to defend brolly and challenge others for their views without knowing what they were. I find it odd that you have to try attack posts that don't agree with you. In one way you agree with alot of what he wrote but when I say I agree you find it odd. I don't like Brolly but I don't dismiss everything he says cos of that. I don't like certain players or teams but of they play well I will admit same and not just find fault because of my dislike. |
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Post by royalkerryfan on Jan 22, 2023 16:36:44 GMT
Christ, that is some read, to be fair it’s hard to blame Brolly, I would lay the blame firmly with the indo editor. To encourage and more to the point finance such tripe is beyond me, You are being polite Horse it's far worse than tripe. |
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Post by blacksheep21 on Jan 22, 2023 16:40:46 GMT
You are the one that asked what he said that was false. You have been told more than once. You instigated this entire argument by disagreeing with other peoples views of the article even though you did not know specifically what you were disagreeing with. As I said all quite odd and having worked out who you are, I am done with this.
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Post by ciarraimick on Jan 22, 2023 17:08:18 GMT
You are the one that asked what he said that was false. You have been told more than once. You instigated this entire argument by disagreeing with other peoples views of the article even though you did not know specifically what you were disagreeing with. As I said all quite odd and having worked out who you are, I am done with this. "Instigated the argument".That is a falsehood! I gave my view saying I agreed with alot of what Brolly wrote. You then "instigated an argument with me" You try to make it personal. You state "you ve worked out who I am?". Are you Inspector Cluso? ". I doubt very much you know anything about me" but if it makes you feel better to think you do that's fine too! |
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Post by Kerryman Randy Savage on Jan 22, 2023 18:25:01 GMT
When you are irrelevant you have to say stupid stuff to gain attention. So sad at this stage. I'd love to know his opinion on his turning up to Cheltenham in 2020 and participating in the first major COVID super spreader event. Apart from that, he can crawl back under his rock.
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Post by mike70 on Jan 22, 2023 18:58:55 GMT
Ah lads, who really cares what Brolly says, ye have given him plenty air time, maybe it is aimed at keeping in the news, or just simply his view, either way let’s park it, let’s look forward to the league.
On a side note KC got over the line, just about, congrats.
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