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Post by john4 on Jul 4, 2022 10:13:35 GMT
Paddy Neilan ( Roscommon ) appointed to referee Kerry/Dublin. Good to see that they're reverted to making the appropriate decision of nominating Semi-Final referees from a "neural" Provence. |
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Post by homerj on Jul 4, 2022 10:17:44 GMT
theres about 400 lower cusack tickets just gone up online now now and available for sale.
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Post by oldschool on Jul 4, 2022 10:30:05 GMT
Paddy Neilan ( Roscommon ) appointed to referee Kerry/Dublin. Good to see that they're reverted to making the appropriate decision of nominating Semi-Final referees from a "neural" Provence. Happy enough with Paddy Neilan He won’t win or lose it for us |
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Post by Deise Exile on Jul 4, 2022 11:59:06 GMT
Lads it really is time for this team to stand up and be counted. We need to beat Dublin on Sunday. On the balance of age profile and general form since January then Kerry should be beating Dublin. Time for a lot of these Kerry players to come of age. A defeat will be really hard to take. I'm hoping this sheer pressure will inspire rather than suffocate Kerry. To be honest you can make a case for both teams. I'm totally 50/50 on it at this stage
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Post by mossie on Jul 4, 2022 12:14:59 GMT
theres about 400 lower cusack tickets just gone up online now now and available for sale. Will the game sell out I wonder? |
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Post by homerj on Jul 4, 2022 12:23:33 GMT
theres about 400 lower cusack tickets just gone up online now now and available for sale. Will the game sell out I wonder? i reckon wont be far off 80,000 anyway. alot of the sideline tickets available at the moment, are singles so that would suggest alot are sold already |
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Post by Mickmack on Jul 4, 2022 12:33:17 GMT
80,000 and no curtain raiser!
Be in there at 2.30 is my advise!
Chances of the game being delayed must be high.
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Post by Kerryman Randy Savage on Jul 4, 2022 12:48:11 GMT
This looks like the remains of the season tickets not taken up. Suprised the see the Hill available. The times they are a changing.
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Post by Kerryman Randy Savage on Jul 4, 2022 12:53:28 GMT
80,000 and no curtain raiser! Be in there at 2.30 is my advise! Chances of the game being delayed must be high. Is the Junior All Ireland not on first? The semi finals are on in Abbotstown this Friday with the final on Sunday. |
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Post by Mickmack on Jul 4, 2022 12:58:44 GMT
80,000 and no curtain raiser! Be in there at 2.30 is my advise! Chances of the game being delayed must be high. Is the Junior All Ireland not on first? The semi finals are on in Abbotstown this Friday with the final on Sunday. begor you are right. Watching KK play football would be a novelty if they reach the final by beating London www.gaa.ie/football/gaa-football-all-ireland-junior-championship/fixtures |
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Post by lorr29 on Jul 4, 2022 13:09:34 GMT
It's been quite awhile since I've posted but I have enjoyed reading people's thoughts on the upcoming game...like many others I've never found it so hard to call a game. I fear we rely on David too much and Dublin will certainly have an answer for that. I love watching how our defense has developed in confidence in comparison to recent years but I've no sense of how we will respond to a real test...I know in my heart we are Kerry,we miss Sam and desperately want to bring him home but I'm not feeling confident folks. I hope I'm proven wrong. No deep analysis here just hope, lots of hope,it's been too long now...either way Dad, my Cork supporting brother and I will be there and daring to dream...Chiarraí abú
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Post by southward on Jul 4, 2022 13:20:06 GMT
London, Warwickshire, New York and Kilkenny - that's the whole competition? That's a joke, in fairness. Are the London & New York lads who played in the senior AI eligible? |
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Post by ciarrai78 on Jul 4, 2022 13:40:54 GMT
I am normally a “bright side out” optimistic person particularly when it comes to our county team. At the beginning of the year I was certainly so, content in the knowledge that the Dublin we knew from 2011 onward had effectively “gone away”, and the evidence of the national league did nothing to dispel my optimism. However as Sunday approaches I am fearfully apprehensive. I ask myself why? Kerry have done everything asked of them this year, they won the league in a canter and have sailed through to the semi final stage without having ever been truly tested. Dublin have had their worst league in living memory but have put that behind them and have since destroyed every team they have encountered in the championship; but like us they remain untested.
The reason I have “the fear” about Dublin is probably understandable. Their record since 2011 is remarkable and must give them a psychological edge over every team. I wonder how our team will handle that psychological aspect of the encounter. This in my view is a significant factor and should not be underestimated. Many of the players are young enough and have tasted enough success themselves in the underage ranks to hopefully be unaffected by the Dublin dominance of the past ten years or so.
I believe that Sunday is “now or never” for this group of players. We read everywhere that Kerry are “slight favourites”. If games were played on paper we’d be looking to complete a three in a row now. Despite my apprehension, I believe we will be there or thereabouts; our defence had improved considerably, we have forwards who can trouble any defence and hopefully we will have plenty of legs around the middle. When the game is in the melting pot though, we will be faced in real time with the psychological hurdle of overcoming Dublin and once we do so, we won’t face that same hurdle again. We will need mental toughness and cool heads (as well as a display or our superior football ability) to prevail. If we win, we will have a great chance of winning back Sam after a turbulent eight year gap, and a win would likely also end the Dublin resurgence and force more retirements of multiple all Ireland winners, and open the way for a period of green and gold dominance. Lose, well it doesn’t bear thinking about ………………….
'Six sleeps 'till Sunday!
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Post by Mickmack on Jul 4, 2022 14:28:57 GMT
London, Warwickshire, New York and Kilkenny - that's the whole competition? That's a joke, in fairness. Are the London & New York lads who played in the senior AI eligible? You have to hand it to the GAA in fairness. I dont know how they manage to run off so many competitions and nearly every player can aspire to having his or her day in the sun in Croker. The Kerry county board manage to get a huge amount of games and competitions in too. |
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Post by glengael on Jul 4, 2022 14:41:56 GMT
For me, 1 big concern continues to be, if Seanie O'Shea and David Clifford get injured /are very well marked/are simply off form on Sunday, where will the scores come from ?
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Post by fitz on Jul 4, 2022 15:45:57 GMT
Six days out from the game and it's still impossible to call. As usual the starting teams for both sides will generate great debate. But, when the teams are announced on Friday night the identity of those number from numbers sixteen to twenty six will generate as much debate. We know that the fifteen men named to start might not necessarily be the same fifteen that line up behind the Artane band for the pre-match parade. However, if your not in the twenty six your only chance of seeing action on the pitch is in a similar vein to Armagh's Tiernan Kelly. Going into the match Kerry have three questions in regards to their personnel. - How fit is David Clifford?
- Is Jack Barry fit to play and pick up Fenton?
- Is Adrian Spillane fit to play?
Dublin have similar questions in regards Messrs McCarthy and O'Callaghan If Jack Barry is fit to start do we hold Moran in reserve? Hoping for a coming of age performance from Diarmuid along with a game breaking one from David off the bench? The common refrain often repeated by pundits and coaches at nauseum is the "The fifteen you finish with is more important than the fifteen you start with". All well and good in theory but, if you are being hammered out the gate after 20 minutes like Kildare in the Leinster Final you could have Maurice Fitz, Jack O'Shea and Gooch coming off the bench to no avail. As others have mentioned Adrian Spillane will be needed for work rate around the middle third. If he is not fit to start do we go with the same six forwards as in the quarter final? Will Paudie be a quiet as he has been on his previous visits to Croke Park? Ad that's only the start of it. - Do we press the kickouts or drop off?
- Who should our penalty takers be?
- Dara Moynihan or Stephen O'Brien or even both?
- Could Joe O'Connor be a wild card?
- If Clifford doesn't make it do we go for the mercurial Tony Brosnan or Killian Spillane who is in a rich vein of form?
I’d be amazed if Clifford doesn’t make it, given how he functioned against Mayo, granted running in straight lines is doable with a sprained ankle, I think if it was bad he wouldn’t have made it through the game, he would have rolled it again, two weeks intense physio, possible cryotherapy and almost certainly a strapping support should have him running out on Sunday ready for magic |
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Post by Ballyfireside on Jul 4, 2022 16:12:42 GMT
A few good analysts above - thought we had lost our touch.
As for winning Sunday, well as oft at Ballyfireside I say, 'To predict is difficult but to predict the future is impossible; and to try to predict the outcome of a football match is, well dead easy - but getting it right isn't so.'
Who could have anticipated how Galway v Armagh would turn out?
There will be surprises but it would be the most significant one if Kerry were to lose, and yes, we could - still I think if people take another look they will see moments where we oozed of class v a Mayo team that didn't rise us.
The Dubs will put it to us but I am hoping our class on the field together with Jackoc and PaTally supervising things, we might do it. A potential threat I see is where the Dubs do as has been done in the past and use their lack of belief in Dessie to drive them on - hero type mentality, i.e. I am on the field where it happens and to hell with the auld talking. The underlying shouting shenanigans in the league between Farrell and his players aren't things that just disappear and the more pressure we put them under the sooner and wider these crevices will open. While the likelihood is that the team splits and then it is curtains but as I say, there is also the chance it could motivate them.
Dublin faded last year and then fell back a few more steps again this year - nobody can say Dessie is cutting it and the more it goes on the more apparent it becomes; so in effect they are looking to kick into recovery mode, to find their Mojo and kickstart. Easier said than done I am afraid, I suppose they couldn't go on forever.
We have no control over Dublin, only over ourselves and we haven't done anything wrong under Jackoc Ⅲ so let's hope we maintain that record.
Heart and head says Kerry by 4-6 points. I'll be brave and back Brianco to topple the Treaty as the surprise and the form is there - I think Limerick had no answers when Galway came at them - if the Tribes didn't have a diabolical conversion rate then my prediction of two cats in a bag fighting for McCarthy would have come to pass.
Padraig Power is offering me 6/1 - maybe 10/1 if I have Kerry by say 4+.
Anyway that's my tuppence worth.
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Post by homerj on Jul 4, 2022 16:43:50 GMT
so, what are peoples predictions for sunday then? very few here seem confident of a win.
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Post by fitz on Jul 4, 2022 16:54:45 GMT
I thought as the league progressed we’d win everything this year, still confident in that viewpoint despite slipping up with Tyrone. I think Jack has this game on the horizon all through and I think we’ll see a big performance on Sunday, and that will be enough.
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Post by Annascaultilidie on Jul 4, 2022 17:25:36 GMT
I don't know. Gun to head I say Kerry.
I am a little uneasy with declarations that Kerry are more skilful than anyone else.
I am going to hedge by betting on Kerry not to win AI. But am backing Morley for POTY.
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Post by john4 on Jul 4, 2022 17:26:41 GMT
so, what are peoples predictions for sunday then? very few here seem confident of a win. My feeling is that we have 20 players better than Dublin's best 20. The issue for me though is that every time we've been given an opportunity to show or prove it we somehow manage to underperform or at least throw doubts on where we're at. I think we're plenty good enough, but we need to have patience. We were way better than Mayo but by forcing the issue we kept Mayo in that game a lot longer than they deserved to be. We only need to win by a point. The downside of youth is that it sees no danger. Hopefully there's enough maturity in this group to get it over the line. |
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Post by Annascaultilidie on Jul 4, 2022 17:28:04 GMT
so, what are peoples predictions for sunday then? very few here seem confident of a win. My feeling is that we have 20 players better than Dublin's best 20. The issue for me though is that every time we've been given an opportunity to show or prove it we somehow manage to underperform or at least throw doubts on where we're at. I think we're plenty good enough, but we need to have patience. We were way better than Mayo but by forcing the issue we kept Mayo in that game a lot longer than they deserved to be. We only need to win by a point. The downside of youth is that it sees no danger. Hopefully there's enough maturity in this group to get it over the line. Are you sure Kerry's average age 1-15 will be younger than Dublin's? |
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Post by john4 on Jul 4, 2022 17:33:56 GMT
My feeling is that we have 20 players better than Dublin's best 20. The issue for me though is that every time we've been given an opportunity to show or prove it we somehow manage to underperform or at least throw doubts on where we're at. I think we're plenty good enough, but we need to have patience. We were way better than Mayo but by forcing the issue we kept Mayo in that game a lot longer than they deserved to be. We only need to win by a point. The downside of youth is that it sees no danger. Hopefully there's enough maturity in this group to get it over the line. Are you sure Kerry's average age 1-15 will be younger than Dublin's? I'm not sure. An assumption. Are they not? |
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Post by Annascaultilidie on Jul 4, 2022 17:37:31 GMT
Are you sure Kerry's average age 1-15 will be younger than Dublin's? I'm not sure. An assumption. Are they not? This Kerry side were young in 2019. Are they still young? I am not in a position to calculate average ages right now. |
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Post by brucewayne on Jul 4, 2022 17:49:45 GMT
so, what are peoples predictions for sunday then? very few here seem confident of a win. We'll win. |
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Post by Annascaultilidie on Jul 4, 2022 18:00:45 GMT
I estimate Kerry mean average age is 27. Not a very young team... although the good news is that average is skewed to the right so plenty of players under that average.
Dublin older on average than that alright.
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Post by john4 on Jul 4, 2022 18:09:29 GMT
I estimate Kerry average age is 27. Not a very young team. Dublin older on average than that alright. Was just doing the sums myself. Came up with 28.73 for Dublin. Fitzsimmons, Johnny Cooper, James McCarthy and Dean Rock over 30. Nothing in it really. 2 backs over 30 thought should show us some space. 3 if you include McCarthy. |
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Post by mossie on Jul 4, 2022 18:37:40 GMT
I am unconvinced about our ability to handle a fully fit Con O'Callaghan in the type of form he was in before his injury
I would tip Dublin to win if was fully fit
If he is not playing or playing only half fit, I think we have enough for Dublin
At this stage , Dublin are more dependant on Con than we are on David Clifford
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Post by egbabroad on Jul 4, 2022 18:48:53 GMT
London, Warwickshire, New York and Kilkenny - that's the whole competition? That's a joke, in fairness. Are the London & New York lads who played in the senior AI eligible? London and NY teams are only home grown, this is their 2nd string junior teams, Warks would also be mainly home grown players |
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Post by ciarrai74 on Jul 4, 2022 18:51:55 GMT
Really looking forward to Sunday. Let Battle Commence. In recent years we travelled to Dublin in Hope more than expectation but i feel this time we travel up in Expectation more than Hope. A tense tight game awaits. It will be a brillant occassion as per normal playing the Boys in Blue with 'Hill 16' in full voice. Hon The Kingdom.
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