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Post by fitz on Jul 17, 2022 22:18:37 GMT
Watching Sunday game again, PC should have gone for goal on 62 min. Need to go for kill when it's presented. Don’t think so, the tackle was coming, don’t think he’d enough time to set and shoot for goal |
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Post by kerryexile on Jul 17, 2022 23:47:27 GMT
Watching Sunday game again, PC should have gone for goal on 62 min. Need to go for kill when it's presented. At the game I thought the same. The gold standard here is what would Ger Power have done. He would have put ball and net up in Hill 16. But we are in a different time and era where "Decision Making" and "Shot Selection" are so important. So Paudie, who had a brilliant game, probably did the right thing to keep everyone happy. |
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Post by ciarraimick on Jul 17, 2022 23:56:34 GMT
If there were not differences of opinion on this forum this place would be a very boring place. Even in Kerry, special weeks like the one ahead are rare enough so it’s sad to see otherwise great contributors getting into a little hissy fit. Mick has been a breath of fresh air to this space, his passion for Kerry and Kerry football knows no bounds. From reading through his posts it’s obvious enough to recognize who he is. I had to laugh when Bally asked him to seek advice from those who played at the highest level. Two celtic crosses surely qualifies. Mick’s reply was modest, fair play. I’ve always worn the colors since the paper hats and rosettes were dispensed with and it would be great if far more did so. Possibly better in bars in far away lands as strangers in Kerry jerseys can become friends on big days. Hi Aodhán thanks for the kind words but No I'm afraid I have nt won any all Ireland medals. Club football was as high as I got. Sorry if I gave wrong impression but I'm just a passionate supporter or as Kerrybhoy said another loony. Anyways thanks Aodhán. |
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Post by southward on Jul 20, 2022 20:58:43 GMT
Fan footage I hadn't seen before in this one. A tad shaky but the joy in the stands is nicely captured here.
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Post by thepromisedland on Jul 21, 2022 12:55:37 GMT
Apologies Moderator for overstepping the mark over two weeks ago on your forum.
Anyway, I'm not going to say what's already been said post Dublin match and final, in what has been said already. We did our best to lose the game v Dublin, but we got over the line in the end by Sèanie's wonder kick. It truly was a thing of beauty. We should have been out the gap at halftime. Ancient history now anyway.
County is looking resplendent with all the colour up and around. Puts a smile on people's faces. The final on Sunday will not be classic at all. The way the game has gone I'm afraid. Could be cagey enough. Wouldn't be surprised if it ended in a draw. While is stand over the fact that this is the weakest Kerry team / squad since 1996, on paper we should do it, but you never know in a final. 2014 is a long time for us to be waiting. I do not agree with this split season at all. The Finals need to go back to September, don't mess with tradition, counties will get their club competitions run off, I accept the players need to be heard, but this condensed season will cause worse player burnout and injuries the long term, allied with the cost of living, fans and families cannot afford on the road to matches week in, week out, plus the build up in schools for a final is special, allied with making the winter shorter for older people on their own and the general wellbeing of the public at large. It will return in a few years I hope.
Just as exciting, our wonderful Ladies, the first time since 1986, we are represented in a Mens and Ladies Finsl simultaneously. Wonderful occasion to look forward to.
Hopefully, please God we'll do it. All the best to everyone on Sunday. Safe driving Ciarraí Abú 💚💛
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Post by rovingfullforward on Jul 21, 2022 14:23:30 GMT
Apologies Moderator for overstepping the mark over two weeks ago on your forum. Anyway, I'm not going to say what's already been said post Dublin match and final, in what has been said already. We did our best to lose the game v Dublin, but we got over the line in the end by Sèanie's wonder kick. It truly was a thing of beauty. We should have been out the gap at halftime. Ancient history now anyway. County is looking resplendent with all the colour up and around. Puts a smile on people's faces. The final on Sunday will not be classic at all. The way the game has gone I'm afraid. Could be cagey enough. Wouldn't be surprised if it ended in a draw. While is stand over the fact that this is the weakest Kerry team / squad since 1996, on paper we should do it, but you never know in a final. 2014 is a long time for us to be waiting. I do not agree with this split season at all. The Finals need to go back to September, don't mess with tradition, counties will get their club competitions run off, I accept the players need to be heard, but this condensed season will cause worse player burnout and injuries the long term, allied with the cost of living, fans and families cannot afford on the road to matches week in, week out, plus the build up in schools for a final is special, allied with making the winter shorter for older people on their own and the general wellbeing of the public at large. It will return in a few years I hope. Just as exciting, our wonderful Ladies, the first time since 1986, we are represented in a Mens and Ladies Finsl simultaneously. Wonderful occasion to look forward to. Hopefully, please God we'll do it. All the best to everyone on Sunday. Safe driving Ciarraí Abú 💚💛 An opinion is not a fact. |
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Post by thehermit on Jul 21, 2022 14:29:22 GMT
That will be a discussion to have hopefully over the course of a long winter with Sam safely home.
Until then who cares! These guys are our flesh and blood and embody all that our county hold dear.
Any Kerry team that wins the title is a great one in my book so lets hope the class of 2022 turn out to be that!!
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Post by thepromisedland on Jul 21, 2022 14:58:40 GMT
Apologies Moderator for overstepping the mark over two weeks ago on your forum. Anyway, I'm not going to say what's already been said post Dublin match and final, in what has been said already. We did our best to lose the game v Dublin, but we got over the line in the end by Sèanie's wonder kick. It truly was a thing of beauty. We should have been out the gap at halftime. Ancient history now anyway. County is looking resplendent with all the colour up and around. Puts a smile on people's faces. The final on Sunday will not be classic at all. The way the game has gone I'm afraid. Could be cagey enough. Wouldn't be surprised if it ended in a draw. While is stand over the fact that this is the weakest Kerry team / squad since 1996, on paper we should do it, but you never know in a final. 2014 is a long time for us to be waiting. I do not agree with this split season at all. The Finals need to go back to September, don't mess with tradition, counties will get their club competitions run off, I accept the players need to be heard, but this condensed season will cause worse player burnout and injuries the long term, allied with the cost of living, fans and families cannot afford on the road to matches week in, week out, plus the build up in schools for a final is special, allied with making the winter shorter for older people on their own and the general wellbeing of the public at large. It will return in a few years I hope. Just as exciting, our wonderful Ladies, the first time since 1986, we are represented in a Mens and Ladies Finsl simultaneously. Wonderful occasion to look forward to. Hopefully, please God we'll do it. All the best to everyone on Sunday. Safe driving Ciarraí Abú 💚💛 An opinion is not a fact. Is that the best you can come up with rovingfullforward? Nit picking just tgat one line from a whole statement. I agree with you though, that is my opinion, funnily enough though, quite a lot agree with it. Strange! |
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Post by Annascaultilidie on Jul 21, 2022 15:07:09 GMT
An opinion is not a fact. Is that the best you can come up with rovingfullforward? Nit picking just tgat one line from a whole statement. I agree with you though, that is my opinion, funnily enough though, quite a lot agree with it. Strange! I don't think "quite a lot of people agree" that this is Kerry's weakest team/squad since 1996. Maybe people thought what was coming was another team as good as the 2000s, and perhaps this is not what is going on, but without denigrating other Kerry teams/squads who gave us loads, I don't think the people in this boat agree this is Kerry's weakest team/squad since 1996 (whatever that actually means). |
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Post by thepromisedland on Jul 21, 2022 15:13:59 GMT
Is that the best you can come up with rovingfullforward? Nit picking just tgat one line from a whole statement. I agree with you though, that is my opinion, funnily enough though, quite a lot agree with it. Strange! I don't think "quite a lot of people agree" that this is Kerry's weakest team/squad since 1996. Maybe people thought what was coming was another team as good as the 2000s, and perhaps this is not what is going on, but without denigrating other Kerry teams/squads who gave us loads, I don't think the people in this boat agree this is Kerry's weakest team/squad since 1996 (whatever that actually means). That's fine and that is your prerogative, that's what this forum is about, expressing your opinion, I can only state, from talking to many people around my area, they are of the same opinion as me, hence why I have expressed it. I completely understand if others and many think otherwise, free will. I'm fine with that. It's a democracy. |
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Post by Annascaultilidie on Jul 21, 2022 15:22:34 GMT
I don't think "quite a lot of people agree" that this is Kerry's weakest team/squad since 1996. Maybe people thought what was coming was another team as good as the 2000s, and perhaps this is not what is going on, but without denigrating other Kerry teams/squads who gave us loads, I don't think the people in this boat agree this is Kerry's weakest team/squad since 1996 (whatever that actually means). That's fine and that is your prerogative, that's what this forum is about, expressing your opinion, I can only state, from talking to many people around my area, they are of the same opinion as me, hence why I have expressed it. I completely understand if others and many think otherwise, free will. I'm fine with that. It's a democracy. OK I believe many people around your area believe this. It is the first time I have heard it expressed and that is the truth. |
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Post by thepromisedland on Jul 21, 2022 15:22:52 GMT
As Jack would say; " We move on". Hopefully the boys will do us proud on Sunday.
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Post by ciarraimick on Jul 21, 2022 16:13:32 GMT
Well I'd say alot of Kerry people believe this is a good team and certainly better than 2018/2019 but I have met alot of non Kerry folk who reckon this team are average and our defense is a weak point. Now where that's coming from is strange as our defense have been our strong base this year. I suppose until we win Sam again it will thrown at us. Our ole friend Joe Brolly does nt have much faith in us either. He feels we choke late on in tight games. Anyway a win Sunday might answer a few critics.
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Post by Annascaultilidie on Jul 21, 2022 16:19:42 GMT
Well I'd say alot of Kerry people believe this is a good team and certainly better than 2018/2019 but I have met alot of non Kerry folk who reckon this team are average and our defense is a weak point. Now where that's coming from is strange as our defense have been our strong base this year. I suppose until we win Sam again it will thrown at us. Our ole friend Joe Brolly does nt have much faith in us either. He feels we choke late on in tight games. Anyway a win Sunday might answer a few critics. That fella must have missed the end of the Dublin game. |
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Post by thepromisedland on Jul 21, 2022 16:34:28 GMT
Well I'd say alot of Kerry people believe this is a good team and certainly better than 2018/2019 but I have met alot of non Kerry folk who reckon this team are average and our defense is a weak point. Now where that's coming from is strange as our defense have been our strong base this year. I suppose until we win Sam again it will thrown at us. Our ole friend Joe Brolly does nt have much faith in us either. He feels we choke late on in tight games. Anyway a win Sunday might answer a few critics. That fella must have missed the end of the Dublin game. That fella goes to all Kerry games, hurling and football included, a lot think the same outside of the county, as I meet them up and down the country, hopefully this will win our boys on Sunday. It's all about unfinished business you see, until that's achieved, just like in any sport and in any team, constructive criticism is fully justified, as one wants what's best. All about reaching your potential and setting those standards. Sure, don't I see it myself in school. Anyway, time to move on, hopefully we can do it. |
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Post by Annascaultilidie on Jul 21, 2022 16:51:28 GMT
That fella must have missed the end of the Dublin game. That fella goes to all Kerry games, hurling and football included, a lot think the same outside of the county, as I meet them up and down the country, hopefully this will win our boys on Sunday. It's all about unfinished business you see, until that's achieved, just like in any sport and in any team, constructive criticism is fully justified, as one wants what's best. All about reaching your potential and setting those standards. Sure, don't I see it myself in school. Anyway, time to move on, hopefully we can do it. I was talking about Joe Brolly. |
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Post by dc84 on Jul 21, 2022 17:26:40 GMT
Seems to be a lot of negative talk about this Kerry team (jealously?) A lot of it is lazy met a few westies after dublin game and they were saying our defence isnt great. I said were ye not at the f'ing match that was as good a defensive display as ive seen from a kerry team and they have been exvellent all year mainly down to a couple of things
A) foley has come of age he has strengthened up considerably and seems more confident
B) morley and beaglaoich are playing very well with their best numbers on 5 and 7 rather than 2 and 3.
C) the collective is better wing forwards are working like dogs no handy overlaps are happening tadgh sweeping is key as well.
This is a damn fine kerry team maybe not the best ive seen but some of the talk around really gets me fired up the main one being that we are mentally weak.
People saying things like that would be the worst thing i could hear as a player or person , shane ryan, beaglaoich murphy both cliffords and o shea showed me enough in last ten minutes of that game that these boys have the mental resiliance to match anyone.
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Post by thepromisedland on Jul 21, 2022 17:38:14 GMT
Seems to be a lot of negative talk about this Kerry team (jealously?) A lot of it is lazy met a few westies after dublin game and they were saying our defence isnt great. I said were ye not at the f'ing match that was as good a defensive display as ive seen from a kerry team and they have been exvellent all year mainly down to a couple of things A) foley has come of age he has strengthened up considerably and seems more confident B) morley and beaglaoich are playing very well with their best numbers on 5 and 7 rather than 2 and 3. C) the collective is better wing forwards are working like dogs no handy overlaps are happening tadgh sweeping is key as well. This is a damn fine kerry team maybe not the best ive seen but some of the talk around really gets me fired up the main one being that we are mentally weak. People saying things like that would be the worst thing i could hear as a player or person , shane ryan, beaglaoich murphy both cliffords and o shea showed me enough in last ten minutes of that game that these boys have the mental resiliance to match anyone. Gets me fired up too dc84, and I've been going to Kerry games since that great year of 1984, people are entitled to their opinions, I stand by mine, well researched and is anything but lazy. Everybody can't be wrong, but when one demands high standards, then you achieve, for the most part anyway, rather than being accepting and celebrating mediocrity, like a lot of supporters I know of where I work, that have done after not so important games in the past, valiant efforts. Until silverware has been achieved, then the business is done. It's the way I operate in my subject at school, we are Kerry, we have very high standards in tourism, history, football, etc, as result we are successful. |
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Post by thepromisedland on Jul 21, 2022 17:57:05 GMT
Anyway enough on that point.
Let us all rally around eachother in wishing the boys well on Sunday, and we can all come back elated and smiling with the silverware in being proud of the lads.
Ciarraí Abú 💚💛💚💛💚💛💚💛💚
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Post by dc84 on Jul 21, 2022 18:05:41 GMT
Seems to be a lot of negative talk about this Kerry team (jealously?) A lot of it is lazy met a few westies after dublin game and they were saying our defence isnt great. I said were ye not at the f'ing match that was as good a defensive display as ive seen from a kerry team and they have been exvellent all year mainly down to a couple of things A) foley has come of age he has strengthened up considerably and seems more confident B) morley and beaglaoich are playing very well with their best numbers on 5 and 7 rather than 2 and 3. C) the collective is better wing forwards are working like dogs no handy overlaps are happening tadgh sweeping is key as well. This is a damn fine kerry team maybe not the best ive seen but some of the talk around really gets me fired up the main one being that we are mentally weak. People saying things like that would be the worst thing i could hear as a player or person , shane ryan, beaglaoich murphy both cliffords and o shea showed me enough in last ten minutes of that game that these boys have the mental resiliance to match anyone. Gets me fired up too dc84, and I've been going to Kerry games since that great year of 1984, people are entitled to their opinions, I stand by mine, well researched and is anything but lazy. Everybody can't be wrong, but when one demands high standards, then you achieve, for the most part anyway, rather than being accepting and celebrating mediocrity, like a lot of supporters I know of where I work, that have done after not so important games in the past, valiant efforts. Until silverware has been achieved, then the business is done. It's the way I operate in my subject at school, we are Kerry, we have very high standards in tourism, history, football, etc, as result we are successful. Wasnt referencing you to be honest as regards the lazy more the group think by people. I dont care where this kerry team ranks in history only that we are ranked best this year ! A lot of this i think is based on the group think that kerry would naturally suplant dublin and win 5 or six all irelands as well this was unlikely to happen and a team reaching dublins level might not happen for 20 years it was 30 odd between our golden years team and Dublins 8 out of 10. We seem to be treated differently to other teams ie held to a higher standard than we will say galway 5 or 6 up on mayo and brought back to a point , same against rossies in league final same against armagh in quarter final they couldve easily lost all three . But no the narrative on every podcast etc is if galway are there with 20 to go etc. Then kerry will wilt even though the evidence above suggests galway are more likely to feel the burn. That collapse against Armagh was fairly spectacular and worrying from their point of view. |
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Post by Annascaultilidie on Jul 21, 2022 18:07:48 GMT
Gets me fired up too dc84, and I've been going to Kerry games since that great year of 1984, people are entitled to their opinions, I stand by mine, well researched and is anything but lazy. Everybody can't be wrong, but when one demands high standards, then you achieve, for the most part anyway, rather than being accepting and celebrating mediocrity, like a lot of supporters I know of where I work, that have done after not so important games in the past, valiant efforts. Until silverware has been achieved, then the business is done. It's the way I operate in my subject at school, we are Kerry, we have very high standards in tourism, history, football, etc, as result we are successful. Wasnt referencing you to be honest as regards the lazy more the group think by people. I dont care where this kerry team ranks in history only that we are ranked best this year ! A lot of this i think is based on the group think that kerry would naturally suplant dublin and win 5 or six all irelands as well this was unlikely to happen and a team reaching dublins level might not happen for 20 years it was 30 odd between our golden years team and Dublins 8 out of 10. We seem to be treated differently to other teams ie held to a higher standard than we will say galway 5 or 6 up on mayo and brought back to a point , same against rossies in league final same against armagh in quarter final they couldve easily lost all three . But no the narrative on every podcast etc is if galway are there with 20 to go etc. Then kerry will wilt even though the evidence above suggests galway are more likely to feel the burn. That collapse against Armagh was fairly spectacular and worrying from their point of view. We must be reminded that after losing these big leads Galway went on to win. That is "shtones", no? |
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Post by thepromisedland on Jul 21, 2022 18:09:08 GMT
Gets me fired up too dc84, and I've been going to Kerry games since that great year of 1984, people are entitled to their opinions, I stand by mine, well researched and is anything but lazy. Everybody can't be wrong, but when one demands high standards, then you achieve, for the most part anyway, rather than being accepting and celebrating mediocrity, like a lot of supporters I know of where I work, that have done after not so important games in the past, valiant efforts. Until silverware has been achieved, then the business is done. It's the way I operate in my subject at school, we are Kerry, we have very high standards in tourism, history, football, etc, as result we are successful. Wasnt referencing you to be honest as regards the lazy more the group think by people. I dont care where this kerry team ranks in history only that we are ranked best this year ! A lot of this i think is based on the group think that kerry would naturally suplant dublin and win 5 or six all irelands as well this was unlikely to happen and a team reaching dublins level might not happen for 20 years it was 30 odd between our golden years team and Dublins 8 out of 10. We seem to be treated differently to other teams ie held to a higher standard than we will say galway 5 or 6 up on mayo and brought back to a point , same against rossies in league final same against armagh in quarter final they couldve easily lost all three . But no the narrative on every podcast etc is if galway are there with 20 to go etc. Then kerry will wilt even though the evidence above suggests galway are more likely to feel the burn. That collapse against Armagh was fairly spectacular and worrying from their point of view. Brilliant 👏 post dc84. I absolutely 💯 agree with that. I do see it with the media too, we never seem to get that much coverage nationally regarding build up or post winning compared to most other counties. Jealousy? I'd say you right there. Very obvious bias in the hurling final last Sunday and buried towards Kilkenny. |
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Post by dc84 on Jul 21, 2022 18:16:08 GMT
Wasnt referencing you to be honest as regards the lazy more the group think by people. I dont care where this kerry team ranks in history only that we are ranked best this year ! A lot of this i think is based on the group think that kerry would naturally suplant dublin and win 5 or six all irelands as well this was unlikely to happen and a team reaching dublins level might not happen for 20 years it was 30 odd between our golden years team and Dublins 8 out of 10. We seem to be treated differently to other teams ie held to a higher standard than we will say galway 5 or 6 up on mayo and brought back to a point , same against rossies in league final same against armagh in quarter final they couldve easily lost all three . But no the narrative on every podcast etc is if galway are there with 20 to go etc. Then kerry will wilt even though the evidence above suggests galway are more likely to feel the burn. That collapse against Armagh was fairly spectacular and worrying from their point of view. We must be reminded that after losing these big leads Galway went on to win. That is "shtones", no? I agree its more if that was kerry what would people say thats all defo double standards. Ah dont mind me i like to get fired up reading comnents and stuff from opposing fans a siege mentality thing! Galway are a hard enough team to hate so finding ammunition is harder than other teams! |
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Post by Annascaultilidie on Jul 21, 2022 18:20:07 GMT
We must be reminded that after losing these big leads Galway went on to win. That is "shtones", no? I agree its more if that was kerry what would people say thats all defo double standards. Ah dont mind me i like to get fired up reading comnents and stuff from opposing fans a siege mentality thing! Galway are a hard enough team to hate so finding ammunition is harder than other teams! Some commentators said that Kerry had a "wobble" against Dublin. Kerry were up by six and went on to win against Dublin. I don't think the commentary around Kerry in the SF has been overly... Wait I'm messing with your seige mentality my apologies 😅😅👍💚💛 |
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Post by Jo90 on Jul 21, 2022 19:10:35 GMT
But no the narrative on every podcast etc is if galway are there with 20 to go etc. Then kerry will wilt even though the evidence suggests galway are more likely to feel the burn. That collapse against Armagh was fairly spectacular and worrying from their point of view. Yeah, that's lazy journalism, of course Galway have a chance with 20 minutes to go if they're level....compared to if they're 6 points down with 20 min to go. I think Kerry are in a much better position to win if it's level at 50 min. Galway have no bench - I believe all but one or two of their bench made their C'ship debuts this year while Kerry have a lot of experience on the bench. Kerry's defense really excels in the later stages of games - only conceded 2 pts in the last 15 min v Dublin, and 1 pt in the last 20 min v Mayo and Cork. Contrast that to Galway who've conceded quite a lot late on v Armagh and Mayo and even a late goal to Derry which could have proved costly. So if level with 20 min to go, be optimistic! |
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Post by ciarraimick on Jul 21, 2022 19:43:22 GMT
The narrative of this Kerry team being chokers bottlers having a soft centre etc comes from the same sort of people that said around 2018 that Kerry are going to dominate football for years as they won 5 minor in a row and 5 junior in a row. Now I for one and many more Kerry people agreed that winning minor titles while brilliant does not guarantee senior success. It was pundits media and folk outside of Kerry building us up and now trying to knock us down. Most of us in Kerry are just hoping to win this year. Dominance? That's for another day. I too am not convinced by this Kerry team but I do think we have the talent to win Sam this year and naybe one or two more. I suppose from the neutral side they feel we let Dublin back and unless we win we can't change the public view. Tbh most pubdits talk the same talk alot so no point getting too upset about it. Kevin McStay who is a good pundit (albeit he does nt seem to like us) will def get his prediction right. He fancies Kerry but he would nt be surprised to see Galway win. Wow! As they say in Killinascully "Now that is good".
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Post by Jo90 on Jul 21, 2022 21:42:50 GMT
I forgot Kevin McStay got the nod for Sunday.
That'll make tickets harder to get as nobody wants to spend All-Ireland final day listening to him.
It'll also boost Sky Sports subscriptions in Kerry!
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Post by Hicser on Jul 21, 2022 23:08:10 GMT
I think this is a team that has potential to be great. Like all teams who have a bit of a drought it just needs one win for the pressure to release.
I think we will have the measure of Galway all over the park. I predict we could be 6/7 up at half time.
If our whole forward line function then Galway will be in big trouble, I’d really want Geaney & SOB to have good games on Sunday, if they function along with the 2 Cliffords & SOS I can’t see us losing.
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Post by southward on Jul 23, 2022 20:38:50 GMT
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