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Post by Kerryman Randy Savage on Jul 2, 2022 17:00:47 GMT
Wait for the media noise from ex-Dublin players and the odd official in the coming week, trying to pressure the ref into giving them decisions. Well tbf we did that in 2019 when Gough was appointed. Fitzmaurice Aidan Ó Mahony went public calling out ref and he did nt so too bad afyerwards Fitzmaurice was calling out having an official living in a competing county in an All-Ireland final which is fair. They need to squash that rubbish so it doesn't happen again. I refuse to believe there wasn't an official outside Dublin or Kerry who could have officiated it. The blame lies with the organisers for thinking it was above board, not Gough. However, Gough should have been mature enough to see it didn't look kosher and refused. I believe the pressure put on Gough gave Kerry the benefit until the sending off. Kerry then blew it. |
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Post by Annascaultilidie on Jul 2, 2022 17:09:43 GMT
Well tbf we did that in 2019 when Gough was appointed. Fitzmaurice Aidan Ó Mahony went public calling out ref and he did nt so too bad afyerwards Fitzmaurice was calling out having an official living in a competing county in an All-Ireland final which is fair. They need to squash that rubbish so it doesn't happen again. I refuse to believe there wasn't an official outside Dublin or Kerry who could have officiated it. The blame lies with the organisers for thinking it was above board, not Gough. However, Gough should have been mature enough to see it didn't look kosher and refused. I believe the pressure put on Gough gave Kerry the benefit until the sending off. Kerry then blew it. How was it not two yellows for Cooper? That is a line I don't go with. |
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Post by Kerryman Randy Savage on Jul 2, 2022 17:26:32 GMT
Fitzmaurice was calling out having an official living in a competing county in an All-Ireland final which is fair. They need to squash that rubbish so it doesn't happen again. I refuse to believe there wasn't an official outside Dublin or Kerry who could have officiated it. The blame lies with the organisers for thinking it was above board, not Gough. However, Gough should have been mature enough to see it didn't look kosher and refused. I believe the pressure put on Gough gave Kerry the benefit until the sending off. Kerry then blew it. How was it not two yellows for Cooper? That is a line I don't go with. I meant until Cooper walked (he deserved his cards) that Kerry got the benefits of 50/50s but afterwards the only benefit was the Tom Sullivan (I think) tackle that he too should have walked with a second yellow. |
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Post by Annascaultilidie on Jul 2, 2022 18:02:30 GMT
How was it not two yellows for Cooper? That is a line I don't go with. I meant until Cooper walked (he deserved his cards) that Kerry got the benefits of 50/50s but afterwards the only benefit was the Tom Sullivan (I think) tackle that he too should have walked with a second yellow. I got ya. |
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Post by fitz on Jul 2, 2022 18:44:32 GMT
We had our chance that day, we couldn’t take it. We have our chance next Sunday, we will take it
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Post by thehermit on Jul 2, 2022 18:59:04 GMT
We had our chance that day, we couldn’t take it. We have our chance next Sunday, we will take it Please God 🙏 |
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Post by Annascaultilidie on Jul 2, 2022 19:04:04 GMT
We had our chance that day, we couldn’t take it. We have our chance next Sunday, we will take it We beat Dublin and I believe we win All-Ireland. But beating Dublin does not confer AI. |
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Post by mike70 on Jul 2, 2022 19:34:39 GMT
I hope to be wrong next week but here is my honest opinion. The old saying, 'when someone shows you who they are, believe them the first time' rings true for me.
Obviously, I hope with my heart against head that Kerry can win but I believe Dublin will win and have done so from way out, since this much anticipated and expected fixture. Why? I trust the proven evidence of recent years that has shown this Dublin team are repeatedly more street smart and ruthless, and ultimately have better coached team players with better decision makers in key positions. Dublin have proven repeatedly they can be trusted under pressure to show real composure and make the right decisions in the clutch moments, and many of their present panel remain proven winners several times over at this level.
Here is a given, no one can doubt the honest effort our Kerry players give and we know they are trying their best. However, ultimately Kerry haven’t been good enough or more accurately smart enough or composed enough when from winning positions they found ways to draw or lose matches – think 19, 20, and 21. The common thread is individual errors and bad habits at various stages continually cost the team a victory in the big games. When the pressure comes on taking the ball into contact and getting turned over is now a given. Not ruthless enough or creative often enough for goals – double check. Poor skill execution at vital stages under pressure has been a trait. If you have been paying attention - you’ve seen the 14-yard frees missed, the goal chances squandered or the Garryowen to no one of ball possession as a game is up for grabs. Before one boosts too much of Kerry’s ‘superior skill’ I would consider the growing ledger of evidence that has shown otherwise when the pressure comes on. Finding an an excuse every year for when things inevitably go wrong because of repeated errors and poor game management does not create an honest culture. By the way, Dublin’s fielding, handling, kicking and skill execution in general is top drawer and is a match Kerry.
You do not turn it on and off like a tap and it’s wishful thinking to presume otherwise. I’ve consistently been saying it for a long time that bad habits are bad habits! This present Kerry team have actually shown us repeatedly (3 years in a row) they cannot be trusted to see a crunch game out, and we have to believe them until they show us otherwise, even under new management.
I don’t believe the footballing culture is as honest in Kerry as it is now in Dublin. How else can you explain the acceptance of players repeatedly getting away with bad habits and bad decision-making? Moreover, does anyone honestly think Dublin would have patronised Limerick the way Kerry did in the Munster final? You see Dublin being nice guys and tapping it over? NOT A CHANCE. Dublin being ruthless and taking those goal chances more often than not is a given, this Kerry team passing up easy goal chances equally so I’m afraid. The absolute balls up miss of a gilt-edge goal opportunity against Tyrone in 2021 still gives me nightmares but this trait remains. Like against Limerick we won easily in the end against Mayo but our consistent habit of passing up or missing easy goal chances was there again.
Dublin show all opposition the same respect and if they can hammer you, they will, because they are honest at all times. Dublin to their credit began the eradication of the individual ego under Pat Gilroy and only the team matters and this philosophy has not changed. Dublin’s footballing culture underwent a sea change now well over a decade ago, the individual became subsumed by the team first ethos, and responsibility and accountability for mistakes made on the field within the team are a given. You admit and correct your flaws or you’ll quickly find yourself outside the tent. Dublin as a team more often than not makes far fewer mistakes these days than any other side, less wide’s, fewer turnovers, and it’s not by accident and it’s down to an honest culture alongside having good skilful players. I don’t take a blind bit of notice of the league this year as Dublin were recalibrating (probably for the last 18 months in truth) after more than a decade of consistent success and major turnover of players but they’re a Championship animal with the muscle memory of proven winners – make no mistake.
A real tragedy of this Kerry side - is the way they keep finding ways to lose from winning positions, and it would be so typical of their story - if they got knocked out on penalties having played out of their skins to take this game into extra time. However, I think we’ll all be spared that farce and the Dublin team can be trusted to once again see home a high-pressure game over the individual dependency of a Kerry side consistently repeating too many bad habits. Jesus, that was a fair long winded few paragraphs to state that dublin a better football culture/accountability , whilst you on also say several times that Kerry keep losing from wining positions. You might have a point on losing from winning positions, I suppose facts don’t lie, but I would not put it all on the players, I think management have a big part to play in what happens in the later part of games, so I am hopeful that JoC , may have been the missing tactful manager that can guide us to a winning position in the biggest games, time will tell. |
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Post by Annascaultilidie on Jul 2, 2022 19:57:54 GMT
A belief that Kerry in general are more skilful may or may not be true but carries little utility.
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Post by Kerryman Randy Savage on Jul 2, 2022 20:02:43 GMT
We had our chance that day, we couldn’t take it. We have our chance next Sunday, we will take it We beat Dublin and I believe we win All-Ireland. But beating Dublin does not confer AI. Exactly. Mayo had similar notions last year and got upended by the Red Hand. Concentrate on the next game and next game only. Jesus of all teams to think past, Dublin isn't one of them. I fully expect and to be honest hope they are 100% and so are we. We shouldn't have any excuses nor look to them early. With the forum here confirming Conor Lane is the ref but I can't find anything to support this, can someone kindly show me proof or is this a rumour? I hate to be a Doubting Thomas but I'm bracing myself for Joe McQuillan until confirmation. |
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Post by fitz on Jul 2, 2022 20:05:25 GMT
The belief that matters is within the team for the team, including management. The rest of us can go and go on here and emote away for ourselves
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Post by bishop on Jul 2, 2022 23:22:57 GMT
I am amused by these comments about David and his “poor” performances against Cork . I have no doubt if he put up a substantial score against Cork some folk would say, ah sure he can only do it against Cork. A hurling county. Two of the many things to remember about David. He doesn’t necessarily have to score repeatedly to underwrite his contribution in a particular match and also when the need is greatest put the car on him. Oh I take your point Veteran and I'm not disputing David s greatness at all. My point is he makes silly errors that other players don't do. Because he is so confident and carefree he loses concentration at times and it frustrates me. Like last year v Tyrone it was their first goal that fave them the oxygen and belief and it came from David losing the ball easily. It was nt even a turnover. He soloed it into a Tyrone player. He had a fab game afterwards but that mistake cost us big time. All he needs is a little more concentatration but for sure he is a gem. I agree with you 100% on this ciarraímick. I made this exact point on the Mayo semi-final discussion re. lads using their weaker feet to solo the ball when in space, and also when under slight pressure. David lost concentration here soloing on his weaker foot, a simple thing, and Tyrone went down the other end to score. That mistake, as you've said cost Kerry big time as unbelieveable as Clifford played after that. I've seen this lack of concentration soloing happening with White and Moran but to name 2 others. Hopefully it wont happen at a costly junction of Sundays game |
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Post by Ballyfireside on Jul 3, 2022 0:10:37 GMT
I hope to be wrong next week but here is my honest opinion. The old saying, 'when someone shows you who they are, believe them the first time' rings true for me.
Obviously, I hope with my heart against head that Kerry can win but I believe Dublin will win and have done so from way out, since this much anticipated and expected fixture. Why? I trust the proven evidence of recent years that has shown this Dublin team are repeatedly more street smart and ruthless, and ultimately have better coached team players with better decision makers in key positions. Dublin have proven repeatedly they can be trusted under pressure to show real composure and make the right decisions in the clutch moments, and many of their present panel remain proven winners several times over at this level.
Here is a given, no one can doubt the honest effort our Kerry players give and we know they are trying their best. However, ultimately Kerry haven’t been good enough or more accurately smart enough or composed enough when from winning positions they found ways to draw or lose matches – think 19, 20, and 21. The common thread is individual errors and bad habits at various stages continually cost the team a victory in the big games. When the pressure comes on taking the ball into contact and getting turned over is now a given. Not ruthless enough or creative often enough for goals – double check. Poor skill execution at vital stages under pressure has been a trait. If you have been paying attention - you’ve seen the 14-yard frees missed, the goal chances squandered or the Garryowen to no one of ball possession as a game is up for grabs. Before one boosts too much of Kerry’s ‘superior skill’ I would consider the growing ledger of evidence that has shown otherwise when the pressure comes on. Finding an an excuse every year for when things inevitably go wrong because of repeated errors and poor game management does not create an honest culture. By the way, Dublin’s fielding, handling, kicking and skill execution in general is top drawer and is a match Kerry.
You do not turn it on and off like a tap and it’s wishful thinking to presume otherwise. I’ve consistently been saying it for a long time that bad habits are bad habits! This present Kerry team have actually shown us repeatedly (3 years in a row) they cannot be trusted to see a crunch game out, and we have to believe them until they show us otherwise, even under new management.
I don’t believe the footballing culture is as honest in Kerry as it is now in Dublin. How else can you explain the acceptance of players repeatedly getting away with bad habits and bad decision-making? Moreover, does anyone honestly think Dublin would have patronised Limerick the way Kerry did in the Munster final? You see Dublin being nice guys and tapping it over? NOT A CHANCE. Dublin being ruthless and taking those goal chances more often than not is a given, this Kerry team passing up easy goal chances equally so I’m afraid. The absolute balls up miss of a gilt-edge goal opportunity against Tyrone in 2021 still gives me nightmares but this trait remains. Like against Limerick we won easily in the end against Mayo but our consistent habit of passing up or missing easy goal chances was there again.
Dublin show all opposition the same respect and if they can hammer you, they will, because they are honest at all times. Dublin to their credit began the eradication of the individual ego under Pat Gilroy and only the team matters and this philosophy has not changed. Dublin’s footballing culture underwent a sea change now well over a decade ago, the individual became subsumed by the team first ethos, and responsibility and accountability for mistakes made on the field within the team are a given. You admit and correct your flaws or you’ll quickly find yourself outside the tent. Dublin as a team more often than not makes far fewer mistakes these days than any other side, less wide’s, fewer turnovers, and it’s not by accident and it’s down to an honest culture alongside having good skilful players. I don’t take a blind bit of notice of the league this year as Dublin were recalibrating (probably for the last 18 months in truth) after more than a decade of consistent success and major turnover of players but they’re a Championship animal with the muscle memory of proven winners – make no mistake.
A real tragedy of this Kerry side - is the way they keep finding ways to lose from winning positions, and it would be so typical of their story - if they got knocked out on penalties having played out of their skins to take this game into extra time. However, I think we’ll all be spared that farce and the Dublin team can be trusted to once again see home a high-pressure game over the individual dependency of a Kerry side consistently repeating too many bad habits. Just to counter that with two points: 1 - this Dublin team lost to a poor Mayo side when they had that game done and dusted last summer. No evidence of them showing real composure and making the right decisions in the clutch moments at the end of that game. 2- You can say Dublin were recalibrating this spring and I'm sure they weren't making the League a priority but they still got relegated! And there is no way any division 1 side, knowing how vital being in D1 is, goes out to be dumped down into D2. Again in that last league game against Monaghan when they were staring relegation in the face and the pressure was one, where was the composure and where was the right decisions being made? As I've said already in the last couple of days I think the criticism of Kerry's performances this year on here has been OTT. I'm not saying people aren't justified in pointing out the flaws, mistakes and errors in our game but what I don't understand is how people can judge Kerry by one very harsh criteria and then this Dublin side by a far more forgiving one given their performance graphs so far in 2022. Who exactly have Dublin beaten this year? Wexford, Kildare?? Anyone who watched those games could tell you how useless their opponents were. They struggled to see off Cork just like we did and arguably we finished our game against Cork far more impressively given Cork were paying on their home patch and their blood was up for it.
We got a test against Mayo last Sunday, Dublin have not had their pluses tested since the League and, as alluded to, they failed that test.
This is not the Dublin of 16-19, this is a side that is weaker and more vulnerable and possibly missing their key man next Sunday.
That doesn't mean Kerry are guaranteed victors, far from it - and I appreciate (given the bitter disappointments of the last three years) that we can't trust this Kerry team until they finally prove they can walk the line.
What I am saying is I don't believe things are as hopeless as you've made out. I believe if we play to our potential we can win regarldess of the flaws we might have. No team has ever been perfect. For all we admired our predecessors from 2000-2009 I can recall many games by them that left a lot to be desired!
Between then pair of ye, and then the Cats v Banner, that kinda sums it up. In fairness to Kingdomson either that took a lot of effort of else you are in the wrong job, like Vet. It's 15 v 15 and though favourites, unusually we are the challengers - my head and heart are still at one here and hopefully no penalties though you'd take 'em if the other option was the ghost train. Hey, here's a spanner in the works - it wouldn't be unknown for King Henry to be inspired by Cody, jazus he never wasn't - IMO Henri is a better modern day manager than Brianco - and now that said Brianco flailed Treaty's neighbours, could he be .. inspired? Where did ya hear it 1st, last? And if he did then, well to hell with the hurling - that photo of a newly unwedded couple, the unhappy couple, no odd couple! |
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Post by veteran on Jul 3, 2022 10:17:13 GMT
Kingdomson,,
It was remiss of me not to comment on your recent post. While not necessarily agreeing with its general thrust, I appreciate its quality. Clearly, that took a lot of time, effort and thought. My hope is that your misgivings will be laid to rest next Sunday and that we will hear from you next week with a post of similar standard but with a happier tone. I am fairly optimistic and will become more optimistic if I see you know who striding towards me in my perch at the Canal End.
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Post by Mickmack on Jul 3, 2022 10:30:58 GMT
Kingdomson,, It was remiss of me not to comment on your recent post. While not necessarily agreeing with its general thrust, I appreciate its quality. Clearly, that took a lot of time, effort and thought. My hope is that your misgivings will be laid to rest next Sunday and that we will hear from you next week with a post of similar standard but with a happier tone. I am fairly optimistic and will become more optimistic if I see you know who striding towards me in my perch at the Canal End. Good post Veteran. That plume of hot weather from the Azores looks like it will arrive on Thursday. 20 degrees in Croker next Sunday. I too will be in the Canal End...the Upper Cusack with Croker like a snooker table below. Is there anywhere else in the world you would want to be? |
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Post by Annascaultilidie on Jul 3, 2022 11:20:25 GMT
7 days to go. Tick tock.
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Post by piggott on Jul 3, 2022 12:30:39 GMT
Comparing starting 15s last weekend with 2019 replay, Dublin have replaced Cluxton, Byrne, McCaffrey, and Mannion with Comerford, Gannon, Lahiff and Costelloe, while Kerry have replaced Paul Murphy and Adrian Spillane with Graham and Paudie.
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Post by hatchetman on Jul 3, 2022 13:11:55 GMT
and maybe the biggest change for Dublin is Jim being replaced by Dessie, who probably realises defeat to Kerry is curtains, so no shortage of pressure there.
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Post by horsebox77 on Jul 3, 2022 13:20:47 GMT
and maybe the biggest change for Dublin is Jim being replaced by Dessie, who probably realises defeat to Kerry is curtains, so no shortage of pressure there. For me the biggest change is in Currans with the influence of Paddy Tally. We have become solidified in defence. |
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Post by Ballyfireside on Jul 3, 2022 17:29:44 GMT
Just to counter that with two points: 1 - this Dublin team lost to a poor Mayo side when they had that game done and dusted last summer. No evidence of them showing real composure and making the right decisions in the clutch moments at the end of that game. 2- You can say Dublin were recalibrating this spring and I'm sure they weren't making the League a priority but they still got relegated! And there is no way any division 1 side, knowing how vital being in D1 is, goes out to be dumped down into D2. Again in that last league game against Monaghan when they were staring relegation in the face and the pressure was one, where was the composure and where was the right decisions being made? As I've said already in the last couple of days I think the criticism of Kerry's performances this year on here has been OTT. I'm not saying people aren't justified in pointing out the flaws, mistakes and errors in our game but what I don't understand is how people can judge Kerry by one very harsh criteria and then this Dublin side by a far more forgiving one given their performance graphs so far in 2022. Who exactly have Dublin beaten this year? Wexford, Kildare?? Anyone who watched those games could tell you how useless their opponents were. They struggled to see off Cork just like we did and arguably we finished our game against Cork far more impressively given Cork were paying on their home patch and their blood was up for it.
We got a test against Mayo last Sunday, Dublin have not had their pluses tested since the League and, as alluded to, they failed that test.
This is not the Dublin of 16-19, this is a side that is weaker and more vulnerable and possibly missing their key man next Sunday.
That doesn't mean Kerry are guaranteed victors, far from it - and I appreciate (given the bitter disappointments of the last three years) that we can't trust this Kerry team until they finally prove they can walk the line.
What I am saying is I don't believe things are as hopeless as you've made out. I believe if we play to our potential we can win regarldess of the flaws we might have. No team has ever been perfect. For all we admired our predecessors from 2000-2009 I can recall many games by them that left a lot to be desired!
Between then pair of ye, and then the Cats v Banner, that kinda sums it up. In fairness to Kingdomson either that took a lot of effort of else you are in the wrong job, like Vet. It's 15 v 15 and though favourites, unusually we are the challengers - my head and heart are still at one here and hopefully no penalties though you'd take 'em if the other option was the ghost train. Hey, here's a spanner in the works - it wouldn't be unknown for King Henry to be inspired by Cody, jazus he never wasn't - IMO Henri is a better modern day manager than Brianco - and now that said Brianco flailed Treaty's neighbours, could he be .. inspired? Where did ya hear it 1st, last? And if he did then, well to hell with the hurling - that photo of a newly unwedded couple, the unhappy couple, no odd couple! So much for an accusation of late night keyboarding, I wasn't too wide of the mark, I suppose Brianco now facing down Kiely to prevent a 3-in-a-row is the next best thing to an all Cat managed AISHF. Today proved how management can tip a game one way or another - both teams played out of their socks and though the decision may have taken Limerick getting the marginal calls, the Tribesmen showed that the Treaty are beatable and one wonders if Brianco can get their measure into his boyos. IMO the King is, well King and you'd wonder will he manage 10 to match his 10 playing? Was the game so 'professionally' played that it lacked that raw killer instinct and wild informal, the cut throat thrust one often associates with the code, a grade above 'lovely hurling' and which today was at the upper end of - a pure spectacle for purists. I also thought Shane Dowling had a great game on TSG - maybe his knowledge stems from where Limerick are as a group and I wonder how powerful we are in that department? Great sportsmanship at the conclusion that hopefully isn't lost on wan Brianco. |
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Post by keane on Jul 3, 2022 18:57:23 GMT
I dunno who has been writing Dublin off. Every podcast I've listened to in the past two weeks has every pundit saying Kerry are unconvincing and Dublin are going to chin us.
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Post by casper2346 on Jul 3, 2022 19:24:52 GMT
When do they pick who the referee is in this game? Haven’t seen any name mentioned yet
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Post by dc84 on Jul 3, 2022 19:28:15 GMT
Are dublin now the great untested? Did we not get a test against mayo. The bookies seem to be the only ones having us as favourites from what i am listening to and reading!
While i do agree there are question marks over us until we beat dublin there are question marks over all 4 teams left in it.
Dublin were horrendous in the league lest we forget big wins against leinster teams two div2 teams and wexford who are at waterfords level plus beating cork who gave them a few problems (similar to ourselves) hardly moves them back to their previous levels.
Their fullbackline is there to be got at and their wingbacks particularly if mcarthy is out arent excatly the stuff of nightmares like mcaffrey was in 19.
They have a good midfield and a very good forward line with a better balance and variety than our own IF o callaghan is fit.
I know people have said our fullbackline hasnt been great last few years but i always thought the problems were further out foley and tom sull were 2 of our better players vs Tyrone last year. The move of tadgh morley to 6 has been the catalyst of our improved defence so far this year. Sunday is the real acid test now goals are worth so much more than the 3 points particularly against dublin in a full croke park the noise and subsequent oxygen it gives them is massive.
Easier said than done but if we keep dublin goaless or at least we score as many as them id fancy us to outpoint them or anyone else for that matter. Its a real 50 50 game this and one that is just massive for this team
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Post by Kerryman Randy Savage on Jul 3, 2022 19:33:02 GMT
When do they pick who the referee is in this game? Haven’t seen any name mentioned yet They chose the referees about 2 weeks out for the quarter final and they should be named by now on that metric. Probably having a meeting tomorrow morning to confirm and release the names then. Very likely not a referee from the quarters (can happen but very rare). I'm guessing Deegan and Lane for Semi-Finals with Deegan taking our game. I have a fear that McQuillan is seen anywhere near Croker on Sunday. |
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Post by carthalawn on Jul 3, 2022 22:09:30 GMT
If Kerry had Dublin’s form this year - poor league, relegation to Div 2, coast through provincial against tier 2/3 opposition, play an average quarter final against a team written off - what would the mood music be? History and not form is shaping the rhetoric of this Dublin side……
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Post by mike70 on Jul 3, 2022 22:27:50 GMT
If Kerry had Dublin’s form this year - poor league, relegation to Div 2, coast through provincial against tier 2/3 opposition, play an average quarter final against a team written off - what would the mood music be? History and not form is shaping the rhetoric of this Dublin side…… Definitely history playing its part in dublin analysis, you be foolish not too, but if following football it was very plain to see that dublin were in poor shape early season, but the reason for strong mood music was there dismantling of Kildare and there general play in the other championship games , very different to the struggles they had thru Leinster last year. But as the bookies suggest, this will be a close one, a lot of variables out there yet to be sorted con / DC amongst others, these will influence the outcome , the old saying comes to mind, WHO DARES WINS. |
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Post by Hicser on Jul 3, 2022 23:03:33 GMT
‘WHO DARES WINS’ these are the right words, you need the desire, the belief to win and have no fear.
This Kerry team have all the skill but they haven’t proven themselves yet. However they are very close and have left a few All Irelands behind.
IMO we could have won the last 3, we should have beaten Dublin in ‘19 but bottled it, ‘20 was s fiasco with that Cork washout, ‘21 we lost to Tyrone barely and played poorly.
I firmly believe this team should have medals already but they currently lack that bit of mental strength to get over the line.
But if they manage it just once then the good times can roll again,
They can take Dublin, they got the defense, they have enough in the forwards, the players each and everyone needs to believe they are the Kings.
This is what Jack needs to get in to their heads, we are Kerry, we are the best, now let’s go out and show it,
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Post by Attacking Wing Back on Jul 4, 2022 9:37:38 GMT
Six days out from the game and it's still impossible to call. As usual the starting teams for both sides will generate great debate. But, when the teams are announced on Friday night the identity of those number from numbers sixteen to twenty six will generate as much debate. We know that the fifteen men named to start might not necessarily be the same fifteen that line up behind the Artane band for the pre-match parade. However, if your not in the twenty six your only chance of seeing action on the pitch is in a similar vein to Armagh's Tiernan Kelly. Going into the match Kerry have three questions in regards to their personnel. - How fit is David Clifford?
- Is Jack Barry fit to play and pick up Fenton?
- Is Adrian Spillane fit to play?
Dublin have similar questions in regards Messrs McCarthy and O'Callaghan If Jack Barry is fit to start do we hold Moran in reserve? Hoping for a coming of age performance from Diarmuid along with a game breaking one from David off the bench? The common refrain often repeated by pundits and coaches at nauseum is the "The fifteen you finish with is more important than the fifteen you start with". All well and good in theory but, if you are being hammered out the gate after 20 minutes like Kildare in the Leinster Final you could have Maurice Fitz, Jack O'Shea and Gooch coming off the bench to no avail. As others have mentioned Adrian Spillane will be needed for work rate around the middle third. If he is not fit to start do we go with the same six forwards as in the quarter final? Will Paudie be a quiet as he has been on his previous visits to Croke Park? Ad that's only the start of it. - Do we press the kickouts or drop off?
- Who should our penalty takers be?
- Dara Moynihan or Stephen O'Brien or even both?
- Could Joe O'Connor be a wild card?
- If Clifford doesn't make it do we go for the mercurial Tony Brosnan or Killian Spillane who is in a rich vein of form?
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Post by greengold35 on Jul 4, 2022 10:07:59 GMT
Paddy Neilan ( Roscommon ) appointed to referee Kerry/Dublin.
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