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I suppose the exception was the Armagh goalie last weekend who was never a county or club goalie before this season. Should they have changed him just before the end of extra time? Had they already used their 3 subs? Difficult for management to think of a goalie sub with players cramping all over the field.
My understanding is that Rafferty was one of their penalty takers.
He was because he has played midfield or forward for Armagh up to this year. Do you keep an inexperienced goalie in to take one penalty kick or bring on an experienced goalie? Don't think it mattered in the end as the Galway penalties were so good.
That is why I have Con as no 2 in the country. If Con gets the proper ball in he's almost as unmarkable as Clifford as he showed against Keegan.
Has any back done a number on him or kept him anyway quiet?
He was anonymous when they lost to Mayo last year. I think it was O’Hora who was on him, either him or Keegan. Also Tom O’Sullivan held him well in the drawn game in 2019. Would agree he’s the second best player in the country after Clifford. I’d probably have Kilkenny third.
That is why I have Con as no 2 in the country. If Con gets the proper ball in he's almost as unmarkable as Clifford as he showed against Keegan.
But Clifford has been marked out of it twice v Cork.
Ah come on, both games we won handy. Clifford has always turned up on the big days against strong opposition. I couldn’t care less to be honest if he’s not racking up a big personal tally in a game we’re winning easily.
Does anybody know if the lower tiers sales are done yet or is it a case of they holding back the best seats just yet?
"lobbin in, loobin in"[br]"erra for jaysys sake ref, dats a fuckin penalty"[br]"bollox, bollox of a ref"[br]"will ye drive the ball out ye devils ye"[br]"and the ref is standing around, acting the mickey"[br]"christ he is having a miller of a game...& that ball is out into a field of corn"[br]"we buried him in style, oh i think im gonna get sick here or somethin"[br]"the bear is comin out, the bear s comin out"
Ah come on, both games we won handy. Clifford has always turned up on the big days against strong opposition. I couldn’t care less to be honest if he’s not racking up a big personal tally in a game we’re winning easily.
I'm just stating fact. Win or lose its still factual
What’s the point you’re trying to make with that fact?
From my understanding it is basically impossible to predict weather that far out.
From my time in my dealings with Met Éireann, really sound and very helpful people, it is possible alright with the new MSAT satellite technology available, eventough I miss the drawn out storboard charts and velcro weather symbols from the 1980’s, that was really hard work, and you had to be on top of your game then, but with technology now, true that in week, 2, 3, and 4, the accuracy diminishes quiet significantly by about 20% on average, which is huge, still though, it's a bit of hope, a chink of light, better than nothing at all, we all need hope now more than ever. After the one of the worst June's on record in Kerry, weatherwise, the coldest, wettest and dullest, and i thought the summer of 2012 was brutal, along with 2007, we need hope anyway in relation to the cost of living crisis, covid rearing it's ugly head again, the war in the Ukraine only 2,000km away Otherwise, we'll all deliberately get into debt by flying out to the Algarve from Farranfore Airport for absolute sun, it's that or the bog, to alleviate impending energy costs, sure with the weather at present, that's not even possible. I can never in my life time, middle aged, remember the world as dangerous and polarised as it currently is.
As for the impending match itself, a good, fair referee, dry, ball, dry day will suit us big time, fast direct ball into space and pockets to our players, hopefully with Con and James out, will give us a glorious chance, as time has gone on, I'm getting a little bit more hopeful of our chances. Beat Dublin, I think we've a great chance of winning it out, while I'd fear the dark horse of Derry, Gallagher is a very impressive manager, if a little defensive in his past posts, I actually do not fear Galway at all, at all. I think Derry may take Galway in the other semi final.
Conor Lane the man entrusted with the biggest fixture in the calendar to date. Can’t fault the Cork man, think he is very unassuming and in the background which is correct.
It wouldn't be unknown for this Con and James crack to be a tactic.
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Conor Lane the man entrusted with the biggest fixture in the calendar to date. Can’t fault the Cork man, think he is very unassuming and in the background which is correct.
GAA fixtures are not showing officials yet. Is this confirmed?
I hope to be wrong next week but here is my honest opinion. The old saying, 'when someone shows you who they are, believe them the first time' rings true for me.
Obviously, I hope with my heart against head that Kerry can win but I believe Dublin will win and have done so from way out, since this much anticipated and expected fixture. Why? I trust the proven evidence of recent years that has shown this Dublin team are repeatedly more street smart and ruthless, and ultimately have better coached team players with better decision makers in key positions. Dublin have proven repeatedly they can be trusted under pressure to show real composure and make the right decisions in the clutch moments, and many of their present panel remain proven winners several times over at this level.
Here is a given, no one can doubt the honest effort our Kerry players give and we know they are trying their best. However, ultimately Kerry haven’t been good enough or more accurately smart enough or composed enough when from winning positions they found ways to draw or lose matches – think 19, 20, and 21. The common thread is individual errors and bad habits at various stages continually cost the team a victory in the big games. When the pressure comes on taking the ball into contact and getting turned over is now a given. Not ruthless enough or creative often enough for goals – double check. Poor skill execution at vital stages under pressure has been a trait. If you have been paying attention - you’ve seen the 14-yard frees missed, the goal chances squandered or the Garryowen to no one of ball possession as a game is up for grabs. Before one boosts too much of Kerry’s ‘superior skill’ I would consider the growing ledger of evidence that has shown otherwise when the pressure comes on. Finding an an excuse every year for when things inevitably go wrong because of repeated errors and poor game management does not create an honest culture. By the way, Dublin’s fielding, handling, kicking and skill execution in general is top drawer and is a match Kerry.
You do not turn it on and off like a tap and it’s wishful thinking to presume otherwise. I’ve consistently been saying it for a long time that bad habits are bad habits! This present Kerry team have actually shown us repeatedly (3 years in a row) they cannot be trusted to see a crunch game out, and we have to believe them until they show us otherwise, even under new management.
I don’t believe the footballing culture is as honest in Kerry as it is now in Dublin. How else can you explain the acceptance of players repeatedly getting away with bad habits and bad decision-making? Moreover, does anyone honestly think Dublin would have patronised Limerick the way Kerry did in the Munster final? You see Dublin being nice guys and tapping it over? NOT A CHANCE. Dublin being ruthless and taking those goal chances more often than not is a given, this Kerry team passing up easy goal chances equally so I’m afraid. The absolute balls up miss of a gilt-edge goal opportunity against Tyrone in 2021 still gives me nightmares but this trait remains. Like against Limerick we won easily in the end against Mayo but our consistent habit of passing up or missing easy goal chances was there again.
Dublin show all opposition the same respect and if they can hammer you, they will, because they are honest at all times. Dublin to their credit began the eradication of the individual ego under Pat Gilroy and only the team matters and this philosophy has not changed. Dublin’s footballing culture underwent a sea change now well over a decade ago, the individual became subsumed by the team first ethos, and responsibility and accountability for mistakes made on the field within the team are a given. You admit and correct your flaws or you’ll quickly find yourself outside the tent. Dublin as a team more often than not makes far fewer mistakes these days than any other side, less wide’s, fewer turnovers, and it’s not by accident and it’s down to an honest culture alongside having good skilful players. I don’t take a blind bit of notice of the league this year as Dublin were recalibrating (probably for the last 18 months in truth) after more than a decade of consistent success and major turnover of players but they’re a Championship animal with the muscle memory of proven winners – make no mistake.
A real tragedy of this Kerry side - is the way they keep finding ways to lose from winning positions, and it would be so typical of their story - if they got knocked out on penalties having played out of their skins to take this game into extra time. However, I think we’ll all be spared that farce and the Dublin team can be trusted to once again see home a high-pressure game over the individual dependency of a Kerry side consistently repeating too many bad habits.
Weather modeling is not 100% accurate but in general, using high levels of technology, these types of predictive runs are fairly accurate.
Not beyond three or four days.
This is true to an extent. Accurate and specific weather information is untrustworthy beyond a few days but general trends can be forecasted from 10 days with a degree of accuracy.
This is true to an extent. Accurate and specific weather information is untrustworthy beyond a few days but general trends can be forecasted from 10 days with a degree of accuracy.
I would bet that because there are not so many configurations of weather, that random guessing performs the same as these forecasts.
The basic premise is that very small differences in atmospheric state leads to very different weather.
And we cannot measure the atmospheric state to high precision and it follows thay we cannot predict weather.
What they do is they put a large ensemble of atmospheric conditions close to measured into the model and for a number of days all these different states give very similar forecasts.
But after about four days it just becomes noise, with little signal and no dominant weather pattern emerging.
There might be places where the weather is in general more settled than here in Ireland but I would place very little faith in the forecast more than three days out. Beyond wishful thinking.
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Conor Lane the man entrusted with the biggest fixture in the calendar to date. Can’t fault the Cork man, think he is very unassuming and in the background which is correct.
Agree Horse. I think he is a brilliant ref but I sincerely hope he not affected by Dubs view on him. I'd like to think he is strong enough to start with a clean slate. I hope he is hardly mentioned after next Sunday eve and the talk will be of how we going to get tickets for the final.
Wait for the media noise from ex-Dublin players and the odd official in the coming week, trying to pressure the ref into giving them decisions.
I hope to be wrong next week but here is my honest opinion. The old saying, 'when someone shows you who they are, believe them the first time' rings true for me.
Obviously, I hope with my heart against head that Kerry can win but I believe Dublin will win and have done so from way out, since this much anticipated and expected fixture. Why? I trust the proven evidence of recent years that has shown this Dublin team are repeatedly more street smart and ruthless, and ultimately have better coached team players with better decision makers in key positions. Dublin have proven repeatedly they can be trusted under pressure to show real composure and make the right decisions in the clutch moments, and many of their present panel remain proven winners several times over at this level.
Here is a given, no one can doubt the honest effort our Kerry players give and we know they are trying their best. However, ultimately Kerry haven’t been good enough or more accurately smart enough or composed enough when from winning positions they found ways to draw or lose matches – think 19, 20, and 21. The common thread is individual errors and bad habits at various stages continually cost the team a victory in the big games. When the pressure comes on taking the ball into contact and getting turned over is now a given. Not ruthless enough or creative often enough for goals – double check. Poor skill execution at vital stages under pressure has been a trait. If you have been paying attention - you’ve seen the 14-yard frees missed, the goal chances squandered or the Garryowen to no one of ball possession as a game is up for grabs. Before one boosts too much of Kerry’s ‘superior skill’ I would consider the growing ledger of evidence that has shown otherwise when the pressure comes on. Finding an an excuse every year for when things inevitably go wrong because of repeated errors and poor game management does not create an honest culture. By the way, Dublin’s fielding, handling, kicking and skill execution in general is top drawer and is a match Kerry.
You do not turn it on and off like a tap and it’s wishful thinking to presume otherwise. I’ve consistently been saying it for a long time that bad habits are bad habits! This present Kerry team have actually shown us repeatedly (3 years in a row) they cannot be trusted to see a crunch game out, and we have to believe them until they show us otherwise, even under new management.
I don’t believe the footballing culture is as honest in Kerry as it is now in Dublin. How else can you explain the acceptance of players repeatedly getting away with bad habits and bad decision-making? Moreover, does anyone honestly think Dublin would have patronised Limerick the way Kerry did in the Munster final? You see Dublin being nice guys and tapping it over? NOT A CHANCE. Dublin being ruthless and taking those goal chances more often than not is a given, this Kerry team passing up easy goal chances equally so I’m afraid. The absolute balls up miss of a gilt-edge goal opportunity against Tyrone in 2021 still gives me nightmares but this trait remains. Like against Limerick we won easily in the end against Mayo but our consistent habit of passing up or missing easy goal chances was there again.
Dublin show all opposition the same respect and if they can hammer you, they will, because they are honest at all times. Dublin to their credit began the eradication of the individual ego under Pat Gilroy and only the team matters and this philosophy has not changed. Dublin’s footballing culture underwent a sea change now well over a decade ago, the individual became subsumed by the team first ethos, and responsibility and accountability for mistakes made on the field within the team are a given. You admit and correct your flaws or you’ll quickly find yourself outside the tent. Dublin as a team more often than not makes far fewer mistakes these days than any other side, less wide’s, fewer turnovers, and it’s not by accident and it’s down to an honest culture alongside having good skilful players. I don’t take a blind bit of notice of the league this year as Dublin were recalibrating (probably for the last 18 months in truth) after more than a decade of consistent success and major turnover of players but they’re a Championship animal with the muscle memory of proven winners – make no mistake.
A real tragedy of this Kerry side - is the way they keep finding ways to lose from winning positions, and it would be so typical of their story - if they got knocked out on penalties having played out of their skins to take this game into extra time. However, I think we’ll all be spared that farce and the Dublin team can be trusted to once again see home a high-pressure game over the individual dependency of a Kerry side consistently repeating too many bad habits.
Just to counter that with two points: 1 - this Dublin team lost to a poor Mayo side when they had that game done and dusted last summer. No evidence of them showing real composure and making the right decisions in the clutch moments at the end of that game.
2- You can say Dublin were recalibrating this spring and I'm sure they weren't making the League a priority but they still got relegated! And there is no way any division 1 side, knowing how vital being in D1 is, goes out to be dumped down into D2. Again in that last league game against Monaghan when they were staring relegation in the face and the pressure was one, where was the composure and where was the right decisions being made?
As I've said already in the last couple of days I think the criticism of Kerry's performances this year on here has been OTT. I'm not saying people aren't justified in pointing out the flaws, mistakes and errors in our game but what I don't understand is how people can judge Kerry by one very harsh criteria and then this Dublin side by a far more forgiving one given their performance graphs so far in 2022.
Who exactly have Dublin beaten this year? Wexford, Kildare?? Anyone who watched those games could tell you how useless their opponents were. They struggled to see off Cork just like we did and arguably we finished our game against Cork far more impressively given Cork were paying on their home patch and their blood was up for it.
We got a test against Mayo last Sunday, Dublin have not had their pluses tested since the League and, as alluded to, they failed that test.
This is not the Dublin of 16-19, this is a side that is weaker and more vulnerable and possibly missing their key man next Sunday.
That doesn't mean Kerry are guaranteed victors, far from it - and I appreciate (given the bitter disappointments of the last three years) that we can't trust this Kerry team until they finally prove they can walk the line.
What I am saying is I don't believe things are as hopeless as you've made out. I believe if we play to our potential we can win regarldess of the flaws we might have. No team has ever been perfect.
For all we admired our predecessors from 2000-2009 I can recall many games by them that left a lot to be desired!
I am amused by these comments about David and his “poor” performances against Cork . I have no doubt if he put up a substantial score against Cork some folk would say, ah sure he can only do it against Cork. A hurling county.
Two of the many things to remember about David. He doesn’t necessarily have to score repeatedly to underwrite his contribution in a particular match and also when the need is greatest put the car on him.
I am amused by these comments about David and his “poor” performances against Cork . I have no doubt if he put up a substantial score against Cork some folk would say, ah sure he can only do it against Cork. A hurling county.
Two of the many things to remember about David. He doesn’t necessarily have to score repeatedly to underwrite his contribution in a particular match and also when the need is greatest put the car on him.
I'd say Vet after being down there myself in the last few weeks in and out to schools, I wouldn't be so sure that's it's even a hurling county neither. Rugby doing a lot of damage down there, in the city, in particular. Soccer to a degree, a county that's all things, but none. I remember from 1987 - 1994, when hurling was in a bit of a lull after that excellent 1986 hurling winning side, and the double win in 1990, football was the number 1 down there for those year's, sure the Cork supporters used to say that even themselves, they used to take great pleasure in beating us back then, expecially the 'Páirc Uí Chaoimh Plastering of 1990' Different I'd say outside the city.
Hopefully we'll see the best of David tomorrow week and the rest of our boys. They will give it their all. We need to knock the Dublin championship monkey of our branch as we try to scale the tree in reaching Sam at the top.
Regarding how Cork have "blotted out" David Clifford; I think he feeds off the energy of his opponent to a degree. So, if he is presented with an opponent like a Cork footballer who demonstrates his luke warm interest in the game by his poor physical conditioning and limited execution of the basic skills, I believe he reacts by not bringing his A game because, why would he? These guys dont give too much mind to it so why expend the effort?
i know its early days yet but what sort of a kerry crowd is expected next sunday? surely better than Mayo game anyway.
i really hope the kerry fans put an effort in this time, must be worth 3 or 4 points to opposition when they see how low the numbers are turning out for Kerry.
"lobbin in, loobin in"[br]"erra for jaysys sake ref, dats a fuckin penalty"[br]"bollox, bollox of a ref"[br]"will ye drive the ball out ye devils ye"[br]"and the ref is standing around, acting the mickey"[br]"christ he is having a miller of a game...& that ball is out into a field of corn"[br]"we buried him in style, oh i think im gonna get sick here or somethin"[br]"the bear is comin out, the bear s comin out"
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