|
|
Post by Whosinmidfield on Jun 29, 2022 12:44:55 GMT
On the penalties who would ours be ? David Clifford,o shea ,tom sull,killian geaney? Paudie and Tony Brosnan are both supposed to be very good soccer players so the 2 of them will surely take one if they’re on the pitch (I presume only players who are on at the end of extra time can take a penalty?). We have plenty of options really, plenty of lads you’d back to stick a penalty but it comes down to who can handle the pressure. |
|
|
|
Post by Annascaultilidie on Jun 29, 2022 12:47:16 GMT
I reckon more soccer players on Kerry team than Dublin so Kerry win any shootout.
Same logic said Limerick, Sligo, and Galway would win.
|
|
|
|
Post by clarinman on Jun 29, 2022 13:11:42 GMT
I reckon more soccer players on Kerry team than Dublin so Kerry win any shootout. Same logic said Limerick, Sligo, and Galway would win. Stephan Campbell took a year out from Armagh football to play soccer with Lurgan Celtic a few seasons back. Didn't help his penalty taking last Sunday. |
|
mossie
Fanatical Member
Posts: 2,723
|
Post by mossie on Jun 29, 2022 13:20:49 GMT
On the penalties who would ours be ? David Clifford,o shea ,tom sull,killian geaney? Paudie and Tony Brosnan are both supposed to be very good soccer players so the 2 of them will surely take one if they’re on the pitch (I presume only players who are on at the end of extra time can take a penalty?). We have plenty of options really, plenty of lads you’d back to stick a penalty but it comes down to who can handle the pressure. just because you are a good soccer player doest mean you a good penalty taker! Mikey Sheehy was a brillant footballer, freetaker and also a good soccer player, he wasnt that keen on penalties |
|
|
|
Post by glengael on Jun 29, 2022 14:14:49 GMT
Rustiness aside, mayo had us in a squeeze last Sunday in around the 45 minute mark, they were dominating most sectors, there lack of scoring ability prevented them from brining pressure on kerry mentally, miss after miss in this period by mayo, did more to unravel mayo than kerry, allowing kerry to get to grips with the game and kick on. My major concern for the dublin game is we have become very predictable in our play, this can be called consistency too, all very good, but if dublin figure us out like mayo did, they will take advantage unlike mayo. We have not been chasing any major game to date, if we have too, I don’t think some of our subs are guys that can chase a game, again we have become very predictable in our subs, but to me there guys that fit into a winning team working a good defence system, what will be our offensive strategy to chase a game.  ?? I don’t think we have one, not needed todate, but the next games will require some tactical management strategy beyond what we have seen todate. Very valid point. To borrow Jack's own phrase, who would be our men for the trenches? |
|
peanuts
Fanatical Member
Posts: 1,888
|
Post by peanuts on Jun 29, 2022 14:15:52 GMT
I’d imagine that the best of the rest is with the clubs. Chance SuperValu today but if not then I’d recommend buying 2 bill tickets and seeing can you trade up with a Dub Thanks. There is supposedly no club allocation I thought? I have been watching Ticketmaster since they went on sale and the selection available has been an abomination. One of my kids will not go up in the upper tiers which is all that is available now bar the Nally & Hill Lower Davin available now |
|
|
|
Post by themanfromthewest on Jun 29, 2022 14:43:56 GMT
Thanks. There is supposedly no club allocation I thought? I have been watching Ticketmaster since they went on sale and the selection available has been an abomination. One of my kids will not go up in the upper tiers which is all that is available now bar the Nally & Hill Lower Davin available now Thanks, I managed to get a handful of lower Hogan online earlier today so I'm sorted. They seem to be trying to get rid of the tickets in the corners and upper tiers first. |
|
|
|
Post by dc84 on Jun 29, 2022 15:19:52 GMT
Lower Davin available now Thanks, I managed to get a handful of lower Hogan online earlier today so I'm sorted. They seem to be trying to get rid of the tickets in the corners and upper tiers first. Always do this very annoying dont know whether to stick or twist with it sometines |
|
|
|
Post by Kerryman Randy Savage on Jun 29, 2022 15:38:00 GMT
Ah Mick I'm sure if Kerry and Dublin went to penalties it would be at canal end. Sure it would give Dubs a big advantage if it was hill 16. I'd say most penalty shootouts will be in canal where supporters are mixed. Hope there are no more penalty shootouts though. They might invoke the same rule that they have for letting Dublin warm up at the Hill End.... the county starting with A in Irish gets it first. On that basis penos into the Hill. Spose ye think that isnt beyond them! Then when Dublin played Armagh in Croker, Armagh got the canal end. |
|
peanuts
Fanatical Member
Posts: 1,888
|
Post by peanuts on Jun 29, 2022 17:24:44 GMT
They might invoke the same rule that they have for letting Dublin warm up at the Hill End.... the county starting with A in Irish gets it first. On that basis penos into the Hill. Spose ye think that isnt beyond them! Then when Dublin played Armagh in Croker, Armagh got the canal end. Sorry that's incorrect, the rules state that when Dublin play Armagh, its based on reverse alphabetical order. Can't believe you didn't know that. |
|
|
|
Post by Kerryman Randy Savage on Jun 29, 2022 20:05:28 GMT
Then when Dublin played Armagh in Croker, Armagh got the canal end. Sorry that's incorrect, the rules state that when Dublin play Armagh, its based on reverse alphabetical order. Can't believe you didn't know that. I forgot 😂. Thank God we have rules enforced by the GAA. Imagine if they kept losing decisions on appeals and never changed the rules to close the loopholes. That would be embarrassing. Idea instead of penalties. At the end of extra-time, 2 random players are sent off and the first county to get their player off on a technicality wins. |
|
|
|
Post by Attacking Wing Back on Jun 29, 2022 22:01:32 GMT
Then when Dublin played Armagh in Croker, Armagh got the canal end. Sorry that's incorrect, the rules state that when Dublin play Armagh, its based on reverse alphabetical order. Can't believe you didn't know that. You are right about the alphabetical order but, Dublin County is Áth Cliath as opposed to Dublin City which is Baile Áth Cliath. Then depending on interpretation you can give precedence to á over a. So the Áth in Dublin would come before the Ard in Armagh. Obviously the GAA would use any interpretation that would favour Dublin. |
|
|
|
Post by wideball on Jun 29, 2022 22:13:59 GMT
If Kerry Vs Dublin goes to penalties, we should elect for them to be in from of the hill. It would be sweet. It's like the adage, if you good enough your old enough.
|
|
|
|
Post by Annascaultilidie on Jun 29, 2022 22:23:20 GMT
If Kerry Vs Dublin goes to penalties, we should elect for them to be in from of the hill. It would be sweet. It's like the adage, if you good enough your old enough. This Kerry team isn't as young as it was. This is Clifford's fifth campaign. Gooch's fifth campaign was 2006 two years after already lacerating Mayo. Not a slight on Clifford who I rate higher but a comment on the age of the team. Tom O'Sullivan is 25. |
|
|
|
Post by wideball on Jun 29, 2022 22:43:38 GMT
If Kerry Vs Dublin goes to penalties, we should elect for them to be in from of the hill. It would be sweet. It's like the adage, if you good enough your old enough. This Kerry team isn't as young as it was. This is Clifford's fifth campaign. Gooch's fifth campaign was 2006 two years after already lacerating Mayo. Not a slight on Clifford who I rate higher but a comment on the age of the team. Tom O'Sullivan is 25. The adage is more a repetition of something I had heard previously. In this instance, it shouldn't matter what end we take the (hypothetical) penalties into too. If we are good enough we will make them. If we are going to make them I would like to make them in front of the hill. |
|
|
|
Post by boherbee on Jun 29, 2022 22:59:45 GMT
All this complaining about referees is becoming very boring, can referees have it in for us in every single game.
I even see comments regarding the minor match against Mayo ,such as “ Referee murdering Kerry here.”
Really ?
|
|
|
|
Post by Annascaultilidie on Jun 29, 2022 23:11:50 GMT
All this complaining about referees is becoming very boring, can referees have it in for us in every single game. I even see comments regarding the minor match against Mayo ,such as “ Referee murdering Kerry here.” Really ? I would say something similar but I have said similar before. I feel exactly the same and sometimes I feel like the only one. The attention on referees baffles me. The big question mid Championship was how good actually are Dublin. Now closer to the end that question sits exactly beside... and how good are Kerry? |
|
|
|
Post by themanfromthewest on Jun 30, 2022 8:06:24 GMT
If Kerry Vs Dublin goes to penalties, we should elect for them to be in from of the hill. It would be sweet. It's like the adage, if you good enough your old enough. This Kerry team isn't as young as it was. This is Clifford's fifth campaign. Gooch's fifth campaign was 2006 two years after already lacerating Mayo. Not a slight on Clifford who I rate higher but a comment on the age of the team. Tom O'Sullivan is 25. True. Inter County players should peak in their mid to late 20's, this team should be coming in to it's own now and maturing as a group. We have a relatively settled core with O'Sullivan, Foley, O'Beaglaoich, Barry, White, O'Shea, Clifford etc. With the notable exception of David Moran they may lack a wise old head on the field but nevertheless it is time to dispense with the 'young team' tag. This is an experienced group of players for the most part. |
|
|
|
Post by greengold35 on Jun 30, 2022 11:27:13 GMT
Any assessment of the outcome is predicated on both teams being at full strength - that’s Dublin having McCarthy & O’Callaghan available plus Kerry to see Jack Barry & Adrian Spillane returning plus of course DC being fully fit too.
If the above is the case it’s 50/50 with game turning in a piece of magic or a mistake - one area I feel that we could prosper is a high ball into our full forward line as Murchan/Gannon both seem to struggle over their heads - if that were the case I would love to see Diarmuid O’C in the half forward line and taking a chance on drifting onto the square to capitalise on any defensive deficiencies.
Dublin will hope to have their full complement but one man who broke our hearts in the past will not be present - Cluxton’s loss to Dublin is immeasurable & one that could tip the scales in our favour.
|
|
|
|
Post by Mickmack on Jun 30, 2022 12:56:41 GMT
News about Con is like the third secret of fatima. Even contacts i know in Cuala have no news.
|
|
mike70
Senior Member
Posts: 911
|
Post by mike70 on Jun 30, 2022 15:11:55 GMT
Any assessment of the outcome is predicated on both teams being at full strength - that’s Dublin having McCarthy & O’Callaghan available plus Kerry to see Jack Barry & Adrian Spillane returning plus of course DC being fully fit too. If the above is the case it’s 50/50 with game turning in a piece of magic or a mistake - one area I feel that we could prosper is a high ball into our full forward line as Murchan/Gannon both seem to struggle over their heads - if that were the case I would love to see Diarmuid O’C in the half forward line and taking a chance on drifting onto the square to capitalise on any defensive deficiencies. Dublin will hope to have their full complement but one man who broke our hearts in the past will not be present - Cluxton’s loss to Dublin is immeasurable & one that could tip the scales in our favour. To be fair I don’t think dublin will be exposing there lack of height by getting their smaller players isolated in around the box. |
|
brigid
Senior Member
Posts: 321 
|
Post by brigid on Jun 30, 2022 15:37:07 GMT
Today's GAA odds from Paddy Power are Kerry 4/5 and Dublin 11/8. Some confident people backing Kerry.
|
|
|
|
Post by Ballyfireside on Jun 30, 2022 17:14:52 GMT
The other key factor here is the management teams - Dessie v Jack, The Jacks are back v Jack is Back and if Jack is Jack then the Jacks might be in the back of the net like '78.
Seriously I think Dub players can cover the cracks that might have opened when Jim moved on though it will hardly be the same. That DC has gone 5 years without a Celtic Cross is his arse pocket is hard to imagine and as we don't want him being the best man to never win wan, there is a lot riding on this.
Maybe we can write off the below expectation performance v Mayo to the 4 week build up and then what happened in the preceding game. Still Kiely says the 4 weeks helped the Treaty and I don't like excuses as they can become a habit - if teams are sensitive then is it a case they will find any excuse to lose?
Sounds hard but facts can be hard.
|
|
horsebox77
Fanatical Member
Our trees & mountains are silent ghosts, they hold wisdom and knowledge mankind has long forgotten.
Posts: 2,339
|
Post by horsebox77 on Jun 30, 2022 17:20:14 GMT
Today's GAA odds from Paddy Power are Kerry 4/5 and Dublin 11/8. Some confident people backing Kerry. A seventy minute draw is a straight 7’s. A nice punt would be Dublin to lead at half time and Kerry to win over the seventy .. 9/2…. that’s were my few bob may go, |
|
|
|
Post by Mickmack on Jun 30, 2022 17:58:25 GMT
The last time we played Dublin was the 2019 replay and we started off that game by send hopeful 50;50 balls into the full forward line . The Dubs gobbled up these balls, came down the pitch and put it over the hill 16 crossbar. This happened repeatedly.
Based on the evidence presented last sunday i fear a repeat as the same tactic of 'desperately seeking DC' seemed to be there.
Now i dont know whether this is constructive criticism or negativity!
|
|
horsebox77
Fanatical Member
Our trees & mountains are silent ghosts, they hold wisdom and knowledge mankind has long forgotten.
Posts: 2,339
|
Post by horsebox77 on Jun 30, 2022 19:36:05 GMT
The last time we played Dublin was the 2019 replay and we started off that game by send hopeful 50;50 balls into the full forward line . The Dubs gobbled up these balls, came down the pitch and put it over the hill 16 crossbar. This happened repeatedly. Based on the evidence presented last sunday i fear a repeat as the same tactic of 'desperately seeking DC' seemed to be there. Now i dont know whether this is constructive criticism or negativity! No, you’ve a very valid point, this ploy would have been effective if Tommy Walsh had started in at fourteen, but they housed Diarmuid O’Connor, a more natural midfielder, come wing forward, it was Beverly going to work. |
|
exiled
Senior Member
Posts: 388
|
Post by exiled on Jun 30, 2022 21:21:43 GMT
Any assessment of the outcome is predicated on both teams being at full strength - that’s Dublin having McCarthy & O’Callaghan available plus Kerry to see Jack Barry & Adrian Spillane returning plus of course DC being fully fit too. If the above is the case it’s 50/50 with game turning in a piece of magic or a mistake - one area I feel that we could prosper is a high ball into our full forward line as Murchan/Gannon both seem to struggle over their heads - if that were the case I would love to see Diarmuid O’C in the half forward line and taking a chance on drifting onto the square to capitalise on any defensive deficiencies. Dublin will hope to have their full complement but one man who broke our hearts in the past will not be present - Cluxton’s loss to Dublin is immeasurable & one that could tip the scales in our favour. I seriously fail to see the insistence of posters here in having DOC in the team regardless of his position. Midfield or subs in my opinion. He was tried at wing forward without success. Adrian a better wing forward. If he can't field the ball in midfield he won't field it anywhere. His tackling is not good enough for wing forward. |
|
exiled
Senior Member
Posts: 388
|
Post by exiled on Jun 30, 2022 21:23:02 GMT
Con is one of the best players in the country. At last we agree..second to DC in my opinion. |
|
Hicser
Senior Member
Posts: 450 
|
Post by Hicser on Jun 30, 2022 23:19:42 GMT
There is a point in time when a team has to stand up to be counted.
I feel the time for this team is now.
Beat Dublin & win the All Ireland then the confidence will grow. Having the belief in doing it is what this present crop does not have.
DC believes it but PC, DOC, White, SOB and several others do not, if they can manage to win one All Ireland then a few more might come their way.
On a positive note they have the most skill in the country. Jacks biggest challenge is convincing them to go and be champions, it’s simple really😀
|
|
|
|
Post by kerryexile5 on Jun 30, 2022 23:31:34 GMT
Con is one of the best players in the country. At last we agree..second to DC in my opinion. No doubt Clifford for skill. Con is a man for the big day though. Has done it for Dublin in All Ireland final day more than once. I am hoping Clifford can do the same for us this year. |
|
?? I don’t think we have one, not needed todate, but the next games will require some tactical management strategy beyond what we have seen todate.
