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Post by whiteheat on Jul 6, 2022 22:02:06 GMT
Think goals are needed to win this one. With exception of D Clifford, the rest of the forward line has a less then desirable goal tally in big games. Last time I recall p geaney last big goal (2019 Donegal, before that 2014 donegal) O brien (2019 Tyrone). The rest of the forward line I don't recall goals in big games? This is where K spillane fits the bill I think. His calmness in front of goal seems to be a one of his great qualities. James O'D and Paddy andrews name checked on their podcast too. He just has to start. I wouldn’t start him because I don’t think a 3 man full forward line suits us but I would bring him on early in the second half. Something James mentioned on the podcast is that he thinks we could see Paudie starting at 11 with Seanie playing just in front of Geaney and Clifford inside. I think that could work well and get the best from both Paudie and Seanie. Yeah, Seanie definitely needs to play closer to goal. Occupy the space that cooper will be in. Its been such a long time that Dublin seem to be so heavily reliant on the availability of one player (con) . In Jims era, this didnt happen, with the exception of cluxton. So, even if Clifford doesnt make it, there should be no reason why others wont step up. It happened in 2004:darragh and moynihan absences. Big teams/players always step up no matter what - limerick last week:Lynch, gooch 2014 etc |
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Post by john4 on Jul 6, 2022 22:16:52 GMT
Think goals are needed to win this one. With exception of D Clifford, the rest of the forward line has a less then desirable goal tally in big games. Last time I recall p geaney last big goal (2019 Donegal, before that 2014 donegal) O brien (2019 Tyrone). The rest of the forward line I don't recall goals in big games? This is where K spillane fits the bill I think. His calmness in front of goal seems to be a one of his great qualities. James O'D and Paddy andrews name checked on their podcast too. He just has to start. I wouldn’t start him because I don’t think a 3 man full forward line suits us but I would bring him on early in the second half. Something James mentioned on the podcast is that he thinks we could see Paudie starting at 11 with Seanie playing just in front of Geaney and Clifford inside. I think that could work well and get the best from both Paudie and Seanie. Paudie played his best football at 11 during the time when Seanie was out with a foot injury this year. The position seems to suit him. Could Seanie O'Sé play midfield on Fenton with Moran |
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Post by Whosinmidfield on Jul 6, 2022 22:26:52 GMT
I wouldn’t start him because I don’t think a 3 man full forward line suits us but I would bring him on early in the second half. Something James mentioned on the podcast is that he thinks we could see Paudie starting at 11 with Seanie playing just in front of Geaney and Clifford inside. I think that could work well and get the best from both Paudie and Seanie. Paudie played his best football at 11 during the time when Seanie was out with a foot injury this year. The position seems to suit him. Could Seanie O'Sé play midfield on Fenton with Moran Seanie at midfield didn’t work in the league. I’d be moving him closer to goals rather than farther away. |
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Post by sullyschoice on Jul 6, 2022 22:28:23 GMT
Dublin are angry and ravenous and ready to spit fireRoy Curtis That August Saturday in 2021 when Mayo rendered Croke Park a boneyard for Dublin’s seven-in-a-row ambitions – the towering theatre of dreams reimagined as a cemetery for Sky Blue invincibility – embedded itself on the hard drive of a team for the ages. The ending of their 45-game, 2,540-day unbeaten championship run introduced these players to unfamiliar music, what Sebastian Barry calls "the dark choir of pain". Brian Fenton, who, against Mayo, was – remarkably - enduring a first championship loss in a career that had already yielded five All Stars and two Footballer of the Year gongs, hinted at the effect ten weeks after their fall. The midfield godfather found himself submitting to “a lot more introspection, just thinking of your own game and where we’re at – and I think that’s the case across the group.” Six months later, after Dublin’s lost immunity to gravity was confirmed by relegation to Division Two, Fenton would speak again, even more forcibly. “There’s probably just a bit of a chip on our shoulder. We’re certainly hungry for more success despite all the years of success that we’ve had.” Here is a storyline that has been scarcely examined as commentators mine into the quarry of data in search of some nugget that will assist them in calling Sunday’s latest summer joust with Kerry. Dublin are angry and ravenous and ready to spit fire. It is undeniable that there are lingering concerns – eye-catchingly poor league form, the lack of a meaningful challenge this summer, potential defensive vulnerabilities against an alpha Kerry attack, and, mostly, grave concerns about the fitness of Con O’Callaghan and James McCarthy – but fears about their enduring appetite are not among them. A team with unrivalled champion pedigree, a dressing-room that is a storehouse for the better part of 100 Celtic crosses, is fuelled by the hunger normally only associated with squads who have lived for too long on the sporting breadline. Two of the team’s leading figures informed your correspondent that lifting Sam Maguire this year would be “sweeter” than anything that has gone before in their storied careers. That is some mindset set against a back catalogue of achievement that includes the smashing of just about every landmark in the old game’s history. Why are Dublin indignant? Their irritability is drawn from several wells. A frustration that they allowed themselves fall below their own Himalayan standards on and off the field in 2021. Exhaustion and controversy and Covid distractions buffeted the squad, but, still, there is an internal conviction that they did not exhibit their true face to the world. There is a wish to set the record straight. As natural-born competitors, something stirred in their blood as they read their own sporting obituaries and, the rush by some to stray into RIP.ie vocabulary. It was particularly grating to those leading figures who remain in their mid-to-late 20s, the prime of their athletic lives. As the form of Ciaran Kilkenny, Fenton and, when fit, O’Callaghan has illustrated this summer, these all-time greats remain in perfect harmony of body and mind. Their impatience to prove the point to a wider audience amounts to a significant weapon in their armoury. Players will search for grievance if it can be converted into competitive edge. One player admits he even found some psychological juice in oddsmakers’ lists that elevated Kerry ahead of Dublin in the All-Ireland betting for the first time in a decade. To borrow from the towering American writer Don DeLillo: “History [is] a force to these men, a presence in the room.” It is true that there were days during the league when the search for the old invincible Dublin seemed as futile as trying to find light emitting from a dead star. True also, that there is ample evidence to support the thesis that David Clifford and Kerry’s time has arrived – even if that places a heavy burden of pressure on the Kingdom to deliver on huge expectation. It was a burden they were ultimately unable to shoulder against Tyrone last summer or Cork the year before. Kerry have long clung to a belief that the critical difference between in many of their recent duels with Dublin was the inestimable presence of Stephen Cluxton and his choreographing of Sky Blue patterns of play. In an attempt to gain a psychological foothold they will look to fiercely interrogate Evan Comerford’s kick-out strategy. Jack O'Connor will relish every opportunity to probe for weakness in a Dublin defence denuded by injury and the ticking clock, one in urgent need of McCarthy’s leadership, aura and physical presence. Without McCarthy and O’Callaghan, a steep semi-final incline assumes the dimensions of a murderous incline for the Leinster giants. Against that, they can call on that champion spirit and a deep craving to show, one more time at least, the best of themselves. Anger, as John Lydon barked all those years ago, is an energy. For all the magic in Dublin's feet, it might be the chip on Fenton's shoulder that represents the great peril to Kerry's pursuit of old summer certainties. After reading the headline I am not reading that article. He writes garbage usually. |
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Post by kerryexile on Jul 6, 2022 22:38:35 GMT
Kerry are a much better team than Dublin. They can win comfortably on Sunday if they take the right steps.
Firstly, they must make sure that Dublin do not get the high scoring start that they have used all summer to put opposition on the back foot.
During the same early period they must drop a few high balls into the Dublin square and follow them in to pressurise Comerford. His confidence is very brittle.
They must make midfield a physical and intensive area because the Dublin pair do not like that.
David (of the Cliffords) must continue doing what he is doing this season, dragging his marker(s) out the field. He used to walk into the cul-de-sac /corner, head down, like a man condemned.
If they set out their stall properly I can’t see Dublin living with them.
Dublin have been very unimpressive all season. All their games have been against either division 2 or relegated teams.
Take Dean Rock. It must be said he is deadly accurate from placed balls. After that he is only a shadow of what he was. He didn’t score from play against Kildare or Cork. He doesn't have the legs anymore, he doesn’t even want the ball and doesn't have the heart for the battle.
Howard, one of their best attackers is now plugging the centre back position. They started Cooper there against Wexford, he wasn’t replaced / injured but hasn’t started since, but got game time against Cork so Dessie doesn’t think he has a better player to step in. McCarthy has also lost all the appetite. You can actually see him trying to use his experience to reduce work.
Kilkenny is still the most potent forward Dublin have (after O’Callaghan if he starts). When he gets possession he uses his height/strength very well. Tom O’Sullivan is the man to mark him. By his very physique Tom cannot rely on strength when defending so he has perfected the art of preventing the player doing what he wants with the ball regardless of everything else. Those of us of a certain age will remember how Mick O’ dealt with a similar challenge by deploying Brian Lacey.
Kerry by 5 to 10 points.
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Post by Ballyfireside on Jul 6, 2022 23:07:15 GMT
Yes he has and so has Spillane and Brolly. I would nt take one bit of notice of what Darragh writes or says. He was part of a team that could nt beat Tyrone and that's eats him up. Darragh likes to keep on the right side of the Dubs like Tomas and Marc. He will probably be wearing blue on Sunday. He was at the 19 final. Darragh never lost to Dublin in the championship. He is proud of that. Justifiably so. Similarly, many Dublin players will fight tooth and nail on Sunday to avoid being on a Dublin side to lose to Kerry. That to me was the key message in his article. Ah Darragh does fairly call it alright - if there is any smoke and mirrors then he fools me? Still hard to 'convict' him - some of his stuff is remarkable and sure we're all conditioned to add a we graineen of salt to what we hear these days. There's a gang of hobos in Listowel and 'tis a bloody salt mine you'd want! |
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Post by Ballyfireside on Jul 6, 2022 23:10:21 GMT
Kerry are a much better team than Dublin. They can win comfortably on Sunday if they take the right steps. Firstly, they must make sure that Dublin do not get the high scoring start that they have used all summer to put opposition on the back foot. During the same early period they must drop a few high balls into the Dublin square and follow them in to pressurise Comerford. His confidence is very brittle. They must make midfield a physical and intensive area because the Dublin pair do not like that. David (of the Cliffords) must continue doing what he is doing this season, dragging his marker(s) out the field. He used to walk into the cul-de-sac /corner, head down, like a man condemned. If they set out their stall properly I can’t see Dublin living with them. Dublin have been very unimpressive all season. All their games have been against either division 2 or relegated teams. Take Dean Rock. It must be said he is deadly accurate from placed balls. After that he is only a shadow of what he was. He didn’t score from play against Kildare or Cork. He doesn't have the legs anymore, he doesn’t even want the ball and doesn't have the heart for the battle. Howard, one of their best attackers is now plugging the centre back position. They started Cooper there against Wexford, he wasn’t replaced / injured but hasn’t started since, but got game time against Cork so Dessie doesn’t think he has a better player to step in. McCarthy has also lost all the appetite. You can actually see him trying to use his experience to reduce work. Kilkenny is still the most potent forward Dublin have (after O’Callaghan if he starts). When he gets possession he uses his height/strength very well. Tom O’Sullivan is the man to mark him. By his very physique Tom cannot rely on strength when defending so he has perfected the art of preventing the player doing what he wants with the ball regardless of everything else. Those of us of a certain age will remember how Mick O’ dealt with a similar challenge by deploying Brian Lacey. Kerry by 5 to 10 points. Like I'd write it myself - great minds think alike! BTW I think Clifford is fine, well if the rubbish being put about is anything to go by - then again it came from, well the Listowel gang. |
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Post by Hicser on Jul 6, 2022 23:41:49 GMT
I’m guessing we will see something different from Kerry on Sunday, I was amazed how much long ball was sent in to DC, Paudie & Seanie were relatively quiet but effective when on the ball.
Regardless of DC if Seanie & Paudie fire on Sunday we will be well on our way. Seanie could be the key, if he delivers to his high standards and the Dubs try to outmark DC then if could be ours,
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Post by Annascaultilidie on Jul 7, 2022 2:22:25 GMT
Darragh never lost to Dublin in the championship. He is proud of that. Justifiably so. Similarly, many Dublin players will fight tooth and nail on Sunday to avoid being on a Dublin side to lose to Kerry. That to me was the key message in his article. True Darragh never lost to Dubs in the championship but he never beat Tyrone either. He is always sucking up to the dubs. He s a bu**s****e*when it comes to writing etc and as I said I saw him before 2019 final in a blue shirt. Sure he s too great to wear Kerry cours after retiring. Fair play to Ronan MC Carthy who have it to him straight. Darragh Ó Sé is a six time All-Ireland winner whose character Kerry have never been even close to replacing. After Tyrone won those big days, Darragh was back winning All-Irelands with Kerry while Tyrone were off losing to Laois or whoever. Darragh Ó Sé is a Kerry great. (I am aware this isn't exactly negating everything you are saying). |
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Post by dc84 on Jul 7, 2022 7:09:14 GMT
Kerry are a much better team than Dublin. They can win comfortably on Sunday if they take the right steps. Firstly, they must make sure that Dublin do not get the high scoring start that they have used all summer to put opposition on the back foot. During the same early period they must drop a few high balls into the Dublin square and follow them in to pressurise Comerford. His confidence is very brittle. They must make midfield a physical and intensive area because the Dublin pair do not like that. David (of the Cliffords) must continue doing what he is doing this season, dragging his marker(s) out the field. He used to walk into the cul-de-sac /corner, head down, like a man condemned. If they set out their stall properly I can’t see Dublin living with them. Dublin have been very unimpressive all season. All their games have been against either division 2 or relegated teams. Take Dean Rock. It must be said he is deadly accurate from placed balls. After that he is only a shadow of what he was. He didn’t score from play against Kildare or Cork. He doesn't have the legs anymore, he doesn’t even want the ball and doesn't have the heart for the battle. Howard, one of their best attackers is now plugging the centre back position. They started Cooper there against Wexford, he wasn’t replaced / injured but hasn’t started since, but got game time against Cork so Dessie doesn’t think he has a better player to step in. McCarthy has also lost all the appetite. You can actually see him trying to use his experience to reduce work. Kilkenny is still the most potent forward Dublin have (after O’Callaghan if he starts). When he gets possession he uses his height/strength very well. Tom O’Sullivan is the man to mark him. By his very physique Tom cannot rely on strength when defending so he has perfected the art of preventing the player doing what he wants with the ball regardless of everything else. Those of us of a certain age will remember how Mick O’ dealt with a similar challenge by deploying Brian Lacey. Kerry by 5 to 10 points. Well at least your sticking by your guns Kerry exile. Many posters here had Dubs written off but now they have the fear and Darragh Ó Sé now decides to say Dublin are better than Kerry and if they haven James Mac and zCon they win. Wow does he think we forget earlier comments. Ah sure let him off. A few months ago even with Con and James very few gave Dubs a chance. Now after Kerry winning league and loiki g brilliant we have no hope if Con and James are playing. Oh excuse me I'm off to get sick. Why do we believe what ex Kerry players tell us when it's obvious it's for their own benefit. I'd take more notice of Keryy forum posters and that's the truth. Jeez mick getting very worked up over a fairly bland article! Also it seems a bit personal Darragh and the o'Se family in general were everything you want in a kerry footballer. To question his allegiance when he gave so much to kerry because of an ill advised shirt colour is a bit much he was an absolute warrior for us and is kerry to the core. |
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Post by kerryfan0377 on Jul 7, 2022 7:56:05 GMT
New here, but Kerry fan who bought tickets when first released, then bought 2 more when better tickets went on sale this week. For anyone in a similar position, ticketmaster will refund your original order if you go into it and click on I want help with this order (just below your tickets) and then choose exchange / refund. Just said I'd share because I know a lot of people are trying to get rid of tickets for the weekend but the demand isn't high! I already got a full refund within 48 hours of request. Hope this might help some people, I shared this info with @gaaticketshelp on twitter and some screenshots are posted there if people need further help!
Ciarraí Abu!!
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Post by Mickmack on Jul 7, 2022 8:11:15 GMT
I am sure Darragh would have beaten Tyrone had Tyrone come out to play every year like Kerry did back then. But Tyrone were usually abject every second year. Kerry were going for 3 in a row in 2008 for example. What the hell has Tyrone got to do with Sundays game.
I really dont know what people are getting their knickers in a twist over Darraghs article.
A team on the way down is meeting a team on the way up.
Darragh says Dublin may win provided key men are playing. Whats there to get worked up about?
One team may pull a performance like the KK hurlers did last saturday out of nowhere and could be leading by 12 points at half time.
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Post by hurlingman on Jul 7, 2022 8:15:45 GMT
did they play that often is his era? 3 times off he top of me head, 2 wins for Kerry and 1 draw 4 times I think. 01(draw, replay), 07, 09. Was he injured for the 04 game against them? You'd sometimes forget that Kerry played Dublin that year. Wasn't that when Paddy Kelly started out of nowhere? |
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Post by thehermit on Jul 7, 2022 8:18:16 GMT
4 times I think. 01(draw, replay), 07, 09. Was he injured for the 04 game against them? You'd sometimes forget that Kerry played Dublin that year. Wasn't that when Paddy Kelly started out of nowhere? The abuse Tommy Lyons was getting off "supporters" that day was something else. Never witnessed the like of it, considering it would be 7 more years before they did something you'd wonder what planet they were living on! |
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Post by Mickmack on Jul 7, 2022 8:20:56 GMT
4 times I think. 01(draw, replay), 07, 09. Was he injured for the 04 game against them? You'd sometimes forget that Kerry played Dublin that year. Wasn't that when Paddy Kelly started out of nowhere? Tight enough game till a ball came back off the upright and fell into the grateful arms of Darragh oCinneide who put it into the roof of the hill 16 net. |
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Post by carthalawn on Jul 7, 2022 8:47:44 GMT
I’m guessing we will see something different from Kerry on Sunday, I was amazed how much long ball was sent in to DC, Paudie & Seanie were relatively quiet but effective when on the ball. Regardless of DC if Seanie & Paudie fire on Sunday we will be well on our way. Seanie could be the key, if he delivers to his high standards and the Dubs try to outmark DC then if could be ours, 100% on Seanie, he can unlock this one for Kerry. He was immense in a number of the league matches. I can see Kerry targeting 2/3 Dublin backs early doors with Paudie, SOB and Seanie as opposed to the inside line. Hard to see a wild card game plan from Jack. What’s different this year is our transition and how our corner backs are willing to play further up the pitch when the play is on. No excuses for Kerry, we perform we win. |
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Post by buck02 on Jul 7, 2022 8:57:08 GMT
I think both teams will see the opposition goalie and full back lines as the main weakness to target.
Both keepers can get rattled on their kickouts and you can bet that a lot of work has been put into tagetting this by each team. From a Kerry perspective nothing was given away in the Limerick or Mayo game as to how we would go after Comerfords kickout. Powder being kept dry you'd imagine.
How both team manage to protect their full back line without leaving too much space for long range points or support runners will go a long way to decide who wins.
I have no great confidence in Kerry after the Tyrone defeat last year. This Kerry side could end up doing a Mayo on it and never getting over the line or win 3 or 4 of the next 5 or 6 titles. Sunday will tell which way. Blind loyalty more than anything else has me leaning towards the latter option
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Post by oldschool on Jul 7, 2022 9:17:48 GMT
Kerry are a much better team than Dublin. They can win comfortably on Sunday if they take the right steps. Firstly, they must make sure that Dublin do not get the high scoring start that they have used all summer to put opposition on the back foot. During the same early period they must drop a few high balls into the Dublin square and follow them in to pressurise Comerford. His confidence is very brittle. They must make midfield a physical and intensive area because the Dublin pair do not like that. David (of the Cliffords) must continue doing what he is doing this season, dragging his marker(s) out the field. He used to walk into the cul-de-sac /corner, head down, like a man condemned. If they set out their stall properly I can’t see Dublin living with them. Dublin have been very unimpressive all season. All their games have been against either division 2 or relegated teams. Take Dean Rock. It must be said he is deadly accurate from placed balls. After that he is only a shadow of what he was. He didn’t score from play against Kildare or Cork. He doesn't have the legs anymore, he doesn’t even want the ball and doesn't have the heart for the battle. Howard, one of their best attackers is now plugging the centre back position. They started Cooper there against Wexford, he wasn’t replaced / injured but hasn’t started since, but got game time against Cork so Dessie doesn’t think he has a better player to step in. McCarthy has also lost all the appetite. You can actually see him trying to use his experience to reduce work. Kilkenny is still the most potent forward Dublin have (after O’Callaghan if he starts). When he gets possession he uses his height/strength very well. Tom O’Sullivan is the man to mark him. By his very physique Tom cannot rely on strength when defending so he has perfected the art of preventing the player doing what he wants with the ball regardless of everything else. Those of us of a certain age will remember how Mick O’ dealt with a similar challenge by deploying Brian Lacey. Kerry by 5 to 10 points. Like I'd write it myself - great minds think alike! BTW I think Clifford is fine, well if the rubbish being put about is anything to go by - then again it came from, well the Listowel gang. We really need to address the kick out strategy, both our own and that of Dublin. it has beaten us in the past Also we must avoid trying to walk ball into the net |
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Post by Ballyfireside on Jul 7, 2022 10:24:46 GMT
I am sure Darragh would have beaten Tyrone had Tyrone come out to play every year like Kerry did back then. But Tyrone were usually abject every second year. Kerry were going for 3 in a row in 2008 for example. What the hell has Tyrone got to do with Sundays game. I really dont know what people are getting their knickers in a twist over Darraghs article. A team on the way down is meeting a team on the way up. Darragh says Dublin may win provided key men are playing. Whats there to get worked up about? One team may pull a performance like the KK hurlers did last saturday out of nowhere and could be leading by 12 points at half time. That's the very thing; they didn't pull it out of nowhere - nor did Galway nearly pull it out of nowhere. Both were well managed, led - tactics and strategy all in harmony; rhymed, rhythmed and reasoned. You wouldn't have to be a fool to give the Cats the nod for Liam after Top Cat King Henry showing that the Shannon siders were within grasp, and we all know how good they are. Are they within Brianco's grasp, only 10 days will tell. What big ball management is comparable to the pair of Tom Cat's here? Management will have a big say in both semis this weekend. |
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Post by Mickmack on Jul 7, 2022 10:30:24 GMT
We all know there is usually an agenda in Darraghs articles. Sometimes its the only reason to read them.
But when it comes to the big high octane dog eat dog matches, he does bring a good insight....i thought his article post Armagh v Galway was excellent...especially about Comer. Darragh sees a bit of himself in Comer I'd say.
Darragh knows too that in these matches its the team with more 'dogs of war' that will prevail.
Personally i couldnt give two hoots what he wears. Its a free country and ones attire is none of my business.
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Post by mike70 on Jul 7, 2022 10:34:44 GMT
Looking back, we have progressed from 2019 and Dublin have regressed, so you think the stars are aligned, but not as easy as that, I do believe we are a 3 to 5 point a better team than dublin now, but we have a small issue, we don’t close out/perform in big games.
Let’s assume everyone available , here is my thinking, sos and Rock to cancel each other out 7 scores each mostly frees, con -2 Costello -2 Kilkenny - 3 , fento -1 scully -1 murchan -1 total 17
Kerry sos 7 dc- 5 pg - 2 sob-1 TOS-1 KS-1 total 17
I do feel we are very dependent on sos and dc for scores , we need more contributors and in the past we have not done this in big games.
But in extra time , I think we will push on, more experienced bench and better conditioned.
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Post by keane on Jul 7, 2022 11:00:29 GMT
I'm not sure we're taking full note of just how different this Dublin team is to the last Dublin team we played. I had a look back at match report from the draw in 2019 and it's eye opening. Cluxton, McCaffrey, McAuley, Mannion all gone. If the four of them got injured between the drawn game and the replay I'd have been fairly confident.
McCarthy, Davy Byrne, Con all carrying/recovering from injuries. Fitzsimons, Cooper, McCarthy, Rock all well into their 30s.
Regardless of whether Con & McCarthy are fit we can have no excuses really. Time for guys to stand up and be counted.
Cluxton -> Comerford
Byrne -> Byrne (injured)/Gannon
Fitzsimons -> Fitzsimons (33)
Cooper -> Cooper (32)
McCaffrey -> Murchan
Small -> Small
Mccarthy -> Mccarthy (32, injured)
McAuley -> Lahiff
Fenton -> Fenton
Howard -> Howard
Kilkenny -> Kilkenny
Scully -> Scully/Bugler
Rock -> Rock (32)
Mannion -> Costello
Con -> Con (injured)/Paddy Small
Subs in 2019: Paddy Small (maybe starting), Murchan (starting), Connolly (gone), Costello (starting), McManamon (gone)
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Post by keane on Jul 7, 2022 11:00:53 GMT
Kerry team for comparison
Kerry
1. Shane Ryan (Rathmore)
2. Jason Foley (Ballydonoghue)
3. Tadhg Morley (Templenoe)
4. Tom O’Sullivan (Dingle)
5. Paul Murphy (Rathmore)
6. Gavin Crowley (Templenoe)
7. Brian Ó Beaglaoich (An Ghaeltacht)
8. David Moran (Kerins O’Rahilly’s)
24. Jack Barry (Na Gaeil)
10. Gavin White (Dr Crokes)
11. Sean O’Shea (Kenmare)
9. Adrian Spillane (Templenoe)
13. David Clifford (Fossa)
14. Paul Geaney (Dingle)
12. Stephen O’Brien (Kenmare)
Subs
15. Killian Spillane (Templenoe) for Adrian Spillane (45)
19. Jack Sherwood (Firies) for White (49)
21. Tommy Walsh (Kerins O’Rahilly’s) for Ó Beaglaoich (53)
18. Jonathan Lyne (Killarney Legion) for Crowley (68)
20. Dara Moynihan (Spa) for Barry (inj) (72)
26. Mark Griffin (St Michael’s Foilmore) for O’Brien (76)
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Post by buck02 on Jul 7, 2022 11:26:12 GMT
I'm not sure we're taking full note of just how different this Dublin team is to the last Dublin team we played. I had a look back at match report from the draw in 2019 and it's eye opening. Cluxton, McCaffrey, McAuley, Mannion all gone. If the four of them got injured between the drawn game and the replay I'd have been fairly confident. McCarthy, Davy Byrne, Con all carrying/recovering from injuries. Fitzsimons, Cooper, McCarthy, Rock all well into their 30s. Regardless of whether Con & McCarthy are fit we can have no excuses really. Time for guys to stand up and be counted. Cluxton -> Comerford Byrne -> Byrne (injured)/Gannon Fitzsimons -> Fitzsimons (33) Cooper -> Cooper (32) McCaffrey -> Murchan Small -> Small Mccarthy -> Mccarthy (32, injured) McAuley -> Lahiff Fenton -> Fenton Howard -> Howard Kilkenny -> Kilkenny Scully -> Scully/Bugler Rock -> Rock (32) Mannion -> Costello Con -> Con (injured)/Paddy Small Subs in 2019: Paddy Small (maybe starting), Murchan (starting), Connolly (gone), Costello (starting), McManamon (gone) Is there a big turnover from the day in Thurles last year when they scored 4 goals in the first half? |
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Post by kerryexile on Jul 7, 2022 11:42:21 GMT
New here, but Kerry fan who bought tickets when first released, then bought 2 more when better tickets went on sale this week. For anyone in a similar position, ticketmaster will refund your original order if you go into it and click on I want help with this order (just below your tickets) and then choose exchange / refund. Just said I'd share because I know a lot of people are trying to get rid of tickets for the weekend but the demand isn't high! I already got a full refund within 48 hours of request. Hope this might help some people, I shared this info with @gaaticketshelp on twitter and some screenshots are posted there if people need further help! Ciarraí Abu!! Thanks for putting that up. Unfortunately it doesn't work for me as I paid the money to the CB and did not get my tickets through my account with Ticketmaster. I am even more disadvantaged than the uncommutted public. I don't want it to appear that I am always cnáimhseáiling about tickets but thems the facts. |
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Post by Mickmack on Jul 7, 2022 11:48:31 GMT
Although Dublin ended up being relegated, the league saw Dublin unearth Lee Gannon and Tom Lahiff.
When Cork beat Dublin in the u20 hurling final last year...or was it 2020...Lee Gannon was one of Dublins best hurlers. Mattie Kenny wanted him to commit to hurling. Gannon choose for football. Cormac Costello is from the same club and is also one of Dublins best hurlers. Not alone are Costello and Gannon no longer playing hurling for Dublin but their club mate Eoin oDomhnaill has now joined the footballers. No wonder Mattie Kenny quit.
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Post by Annascaultilidie on Jul 7, 2022 11:52:44 GMT
Darragh Ó Sé is a six time All-Ireland winner whose character Kerry have never been even close to replacing. After Tyrone won those big days, Darragh was back winning All-Irelands with Kerry while Tyrone were off losing to Laois or whoever. Darragh Ó Sé is a Kerry great. (I am aware this isn't exactly negating everything you are saying). Now Annascaul if you read my posts properly I have never condemned Darragh as a player. Darragh was a true outstanding brilliant midfielder and one of the greatest high fielders I have ever seen. My criticism of Darragh is in his writings (as I feel there is an agenda) and he not wearing Kerry colours. It's a bugbear of mine as I see how other counties are so proud to wear their colours especially ex county players. I'm not even asking them to wear a Jersey just a bit of green and gold but if we playing Dubs don't wear blue or Cork red. You said he never beat Tyrone and that is what precipated my post. I acknowledged I didn't address all of your points. No more to be said here on my end. |
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Post by keane on Jul 7, 2022 12:31:38 GMT
Is there a big turnover from the day in Thurles last year when they scored 4 goals in the first half? You're welcome to do any analysis of league performances you wish |
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Post by Attacking Wing Back on Jul 7, 2022 12:57:08 GMT
I am one of those in the camp that has yet to be truly convinced if the uptick in Kerry's defence is to be trusted. Yes I can see from my own eyes that the defence seem to be playing better and all the stats e.g. one goal conceded from open play back it up.
However, we have faced no challenge at all in the championship yet in terms of our defence being tested. Mayo should have had a goal from Kevin McLaughlin in the first half when our defence was entirely flat footed when he blazed over the bar. How many of our league games were played in decent footballing conditions? Did we not play a dysfunction Dublin team in a gale wind?
If memory serves me right we played Monaghan on a bog of a pitch, Mayo in a storm. Donegal didnt know how to attack in the league. Kildare did cause us problems in newbridge. Sunday should be a big test of this defence and we will see what happens.
Hopefully we have a plan B in place that if Dublin do decide to play with six forwards that we can re jig our team to free up Morley if that is the plan
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Post by buck02 on Jul 7, 2022 13:20:20 GMT
Is there a big turnover from the day in Thurles last year when they scored 4 goals in the first half? You're welcome to do any analysis of league performances you wish This was their team 14 months ago DUBLIN: Evan Comerford; Eoin Murchan, David Byrne, Michael Fitzsimons; Robert McDaid, John Small, Sean McMahon; Brian Fenton, Tom Lahiff; Niall Scully, Ciarán Kilkenny; James McCarthy; Paddy Small, Con O’Callaghan, Cormac Costello Subs: Colm Basquel for Tom Lahiff (47), Dara Mullin for Paddy Small, Eric Lowndes for Robert McDaid (both 55), Philly McMahon for John Small (59), Sean Bugler for Ciarán Kilkenny, Jonny Cooper for Sean MacMahon (both 65), Brian Howard for Niall Scully (71) |
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