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Post by Kerryman Randy Savage on Apr 3, 2022 18:47:11 GMT
I'm happier that some of the lads I noticed playing poorly in the first half step up in the second half. Jason was my man of the league, Clifford deserved tonight so the spanking he gave O'Hora. The proper way to give a response
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Post by peanuts on Apr 3, 2022 18:50:22 GMT
Good win but Mayo didn’t seem up for it at all. Never really saw Keegan drive on and they were missing Durcan, Oisin Mullin and McLaughlin from the half back line. Those along with Diarmaid O’Connor were big losses and they will be a different animal come championship. Having said that you can only beat what’s in front of you and Kerry did that well.
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Post by misteallaigh abú on Apr 3, 2022 18:51:30 GMT
The usual Bull where O Hora was acting the Boll1x hitting DC off the ball. Swinging out of him. Shoving him into the back and whats the result....Two yellows. Pathetic. O Hora was roasted after it though. They were directly in front of us for the second half. O Hora must have been listening to Philly Mc Mahon a few weeks ago when he was on about his blueprint for marking Clifford. It was something along the lines of give him plenty of chat and see how he takes it, stands on his toes, get as tight as possible to him off the ball. I think he tried all the above and more but it was great to see him get his comeuppance in the finest way possible. It was an excellent Kerry performance. Some of our football today was as good as I have ever seen. That swagger was back and our kick passing was sublime, at times. Adrian Spillane surprised me again today, it just shows what a sustained run at things can do for players’ confidence. Paudie Clifford excelled too, I would love to see how many possessions he had. We never really looked like being sliced open, kudos to our defence and it was great to see Dara Moynihan announce himself to Croke Park today. He was brave, fast and accurate with his passing and shooting. I think that once Kerry scored the first few scores of the second half, Mayo knew that the game was up and thereafter, their interest appeared to wane? Mayo really missed Hennelly, Oisín Mullen, Paddy Durcan and Diarmuid O Connor. Jordan Flynn was having an excellent game until he had to go off injured. Overall Kerry performed very well, the bench made a very positive impact and we have a national title resting in the Kingdom this evening. A more than satisfactory day out!
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Post by thehermit on Apr 3, 2022 18:56:46 GMT
I broke my Lenten fast to have a pint on the way home to celebrate, suppose I can't mark Catholic in the census tonight now 😐
Just want to praise Jason Foley if I can. These might be dark days for football in North Kerry,but Jason has emerged as our shinning light. A dogged, uncompromising, skillfull and tenacious fullback who has shown himself this spring to be the next great link in that wonderful tradition of North Kerry backs at intercounty level.
Handled everything today and even with the game long won he wouldn't give Cillian OC a sniff when he ran on.
It was wonderful to see him pop up to slot home the last goal.
Your doing North Kerry proud Jason, hopefully you'll do us prouder still before the summer ends
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Post by Annascaultilidie on Apr 3, 2022 18:58:12 GMT
After the Clifford goal O'Hora patted Clifford's midriff as if to say, "fair play, great goal".
Now, a rules question.
Does the square ball rule apply to a ball played or deflected off a defender? Jason Foley was not in the square when T Brosnan shot but was closer when it hit the Mayo back... he still wasn't in there but what if he was?
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Post by damarys on Apr 3, 2022 19:19:16 GMT
From open play, when the ball is kicked or punched the person may not be in the square....in other words once Tony shot for goal and Jason was not in the square he was entitled to play the ball. That's my take.Best display I,ve seen since 2009 quarter final V Dublin.And still wasteful!!!That has been a feature over the past few years....2019 drawn game,last year semi .But how good are mayo?We may have to temper the performance against this questain.
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Post by Annascaultilidie on Apr 3, 2022 19:20:52 GMT
From open play, when the ball is kicked or punched the person may not be in the square....in other words once Tony shot for goal and Jason was not in the square he was entitled to play the ball. That's my take. Thank you. I know that part of the rule. My question is does it still apply if a player from the other team plays it into the square, or e.g. deflects it.
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Post by Mickmack on Apr 3, 2022 19:26:24 GMT
I Just want to praise Jason Foley if I can. These might be dark days for football in North Kerry,but Jason has emerged as our shinning light. A dogged, uncompromising, skillfull and tenacious fullback who has shown himself this spring to be the next great link in that wonderful tradition of North Kerry backs at intercounty level. Handled everything today and even with the game long won he wouldn't give Cillian OC a sniff when he ran on. It was wonderful to see him pop up to slot home the last goal. Your doing North Kerry proud Jason, hopefully you'll do us prouder still before the summer ends I'd say everyone on this forum had the same thought when Jason scored that goal; There is a poem on the way! I need to watch the recording a few times before talking about the game but i will say this; i though Shane Ryan was super when Kerry went a man down. The short kickout wasnt on but he found a Kerry jersey each time and i think 3 points came direct from his restarts. He is one cool customer. The Mayo man sitting beside me expects Galway to take Mayo on the 24th. He said mayo have 8 injured players and he also felt Galway pulled their punches today in not starting a few fit players (I think he said two Kellys?)
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Post by Jo90 on Apr 3, 2022 19:29:20 GMT
After the Clifford goal O'Hora patted Clifford's midriff as if to say, "fair play, great goal". Now, a rules question. Does the square ball rule apply to a ball played or deflected off a defender? Jason Foley was not in the square when T Brosnan shot but was closer when it hit the Mayo back... he still wasn't in there but what if he was? "Football Only – “Square Ball” This has been amended to allow a player enter the small rectangle once the final deliberate play of the ball has been made" He was outside the square for the last deliberate play.
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Post by Mickmack on Apr 3, 2022 19:29:59 GMT
that's the way to answer fellas like O'Hora, hammer them on the score board, well done to David Clifford and the Kerry football team, great stuff from all of them, didn't need to bring on Seán O'Shea or Moran either. Midfield did well, up against a really good midfield outfit . Well that puts the Kerry haven't beaten Mayo in Croke Park since 2011 to bed, what's the next still stick that the media will use to bate us with. Let us retreat now to the long grass with our McGrath and league cups and enjoy the show. Unfortunately after handing out such a hammering in Croker it will be quite hard to retreat to the long grass. It's all abroad the hype train fueled by the media and opposition... Choo Choo... Management will have their work cut out ensuring Kerry hit the ground running when they next take to Croker. I can only imagine the hyperbole. And not just on here!
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Post by royalkerryfan on Apr 3, 2022 19:33:20 GMT
What a beautiful day in croker it could have been June rather than April.
Kerry needed to win today, They needed to climb those Hogan stand steps for self believe.
The scoreline flattered Mayo at HT, Kerry butchered so many chances in that first half it was our errors keeping Mayo in it.
Marked improvement in the second half but still some sloppy stuff, notably from O'brien.
OHora was ex MMA I believe well he made a show of himself and was given his answer. You won't forget that in a while.
The highlight for me today is the same as it was all season. Great defending. Take a bow Morely and Foley absolutely immense.
Our much maligned defence is solid.
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Post by Annascaultilidie on Apr 3, 2022 19:34:41 GMT
After the Clifford goal O'Hora patted Clifford's midriff as if to say, "fair play, great goal". Now, a rules question. Does the square ball rule apply to a ball played or deflected off a defender? Jason Foley was not in the square when T Brosnan shot but was closer when it hit the Mayo back... he still wasn't in there but what if he was? "Football Only – “Square Ball” This has been amended to allow a player enter the small rectangle once the final deliberate play of the ball has been made" He was outside the square for the last deliberate play. That would certainly clear up a deflection. He was outside for the deflection too.
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Post by The16thMan on Apr 3, 2022 19:39:50 GMT
Overall a pleasing performance. Nice for a lot of these players to win their 1st Croke Park silverware at senior intercounty and also Kerrys 1st Croke Park win vs Mayo since 2011. Kerry could have been up by 10+ points at halftime but for their wastefulness. Geaney was kicking bad wides whilst Paudie missed a couple of goal chances. We seemed to get alot more clinical after halftime, Geaney found his scoring boots and we pulled away thanks to magic from Clifford. Mayo will not be this poor if we meet in the Championship but Kerry are still at least a 6 point better team I reckon.
A few observations: 1st was I thought Diarmuid was harshly black carded, that was not a deliberate pull down.. he slipped into O Shea
2nd and possibly the most pleasing, I thought Tony Brosnans kick passing into the forward line when introduced was impeccable. It might suit him as a playmaker role.
3rd was the fact we won the game handsomely without our playmaker Seánie O'Shea. That should give lads great confidence.
Last but not least was Jason Foleys display, he's 100% the country's best full back at this stage. Take out his goal he destroyed Jason Doherty as well. Mayo tried the long ball into Doherty in the 1st half a lot and Foley didn't give him a sniff. This comes after he did the same to McShane last week. An invaluable part of our team
To note also, I think Paul Murphy will find it tough to break into that team ahead of Brían and Gavin. They were a tour de force today.
It's looking good for Championship, very good.
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Post by peanuts on Apr 3, 2022 19:43:56 GMT
After the Clifford goal O'Hora patted Clifford's midriff as if to say, "fair play, great goal". Now, a rules question. Does the square ball rule apply to a ball played or deflected off a defender? Jason Foley was not in the square when T Brosnan shot but was closer when it hit the Mayo back... he still wasn't in there but what if he was? "Football Only – “Square Ball” This has been amended to allow a player enter the small rectangle once the final deliberate play of the ball has been made" He was outside the square for the last deliberate play. This is what the rule states. ‘For an attacking player to enter opponents’ small rectangle: (a) During Play (excluding Set Play), before the final play of the ball into the small rectangle.’ Doesn’t include the word deliberate so not sure if the deflection counts as a ‘play’.
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Post by carthalawn on Apr 3, 2022 19:49:16 GMT
Clinical Kerry performance in near perfect conditions. Mayo were poor but at least we put them to the sword. Our defensive unit were excellent. Morley was my man of the match followed by Foley. The two lads were sharp, physical and intelligent. Our half forward line put in their best collective performance. Great to see Spillane make a mark on the score board - that will get opposing teams thinking a little more. Kerry funnelled an amount of ball through Paudie who excelled. Midfield got stuck in and didn’t shirk the physical stuff. Great to see Moran in the warm up…..I thought Brosan looked very sharp when he came on - played a playmaker role, which was interesting - Croke Park may be the making of him. O’Hora made a fool of himself…..David was immense.
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Post by kerryexile on Apr 3, 2022 19:50:59 GMT
Todays performace was in the top 10 performances I've seen by Kerry in Croke Park over the years.
Today players seemed to have freedom to make decisions on the hoof. With the natural instict to open defences Kerry took control.
I would have no criticism of anything that happened today.
Last week there was a delugee of comments because no one would take the kick at the end. Today it is all about "wasteful". How can the players do right thing???
We are in a great place. The competition for places will keep an edge in trainig. There could be an AI celebration under July sunshine.
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Post by exiled on Apr 3, 2022 19:57:38 GMT
Hopefully Kerry will keep the hype down between now and quarter finals. Not to believe hype like last year. But Jack is far more wily than Peter was..although I'm sure Horan will use pictures of the Kerry management laughing with 5 minutes to go should they meet again. Hard to see a way back for Mayo after today. Just don't have a forward game once their running game is stopped..and Kerry stopped that the whole game..
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Post by paudief on Apr 3, 2022 19:58:32 GMT
Great performance. Great to see Gavin White back, and he was on fire, thought he was man-of-the-match in the first-half, before Clifford turned on the afterburners in the second half.
Really not happy at all with the hit on him for the goal. This was a really dangerous play, and the GAA are not doing enough to protect players against this. I notice in rugby, they are protecting players much more with harsh punishment for dangerous play, but this is not the case in the GAA. He has just come back from injury following a cynical foul, and he gets clattered again in the head, and no action taken. Presumably the ref didn't see it (or any umpires or anything), in that case I wonder will there be any retrospective punishment? (not holding my breath)
The defence played great, great intensity and organisation, didn't give Mayo a sniff a goal chance. Paddy Tally seems to be making a difference, as a collective they look better-organised and play with greater intensity.
Good spread of scores up front, with all 6 starting forwards scoring. Really good at getting the ball forward quickly, either with the foot-pass or with runners. I also enjoyed seeing O'Hora getting showed up in the second half, I'm tired of this thuggish behaviour that goes on in the GAA. I think once they both got the yellow card, Clifford realised O'Hora was in trouble if he ran at him, and he took full advantage.
Very nice speech from David in accepting the cup.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 3, 2022 20:00:55 GMT
that's the way to answer fellas like O'Hora, hammer them on the score board, well done to David Clifford and the Kerry football team, great stuff from all of them, didn't need to bring on Seán O'Shea or Moran either. Midfield did well, up against a really good midfield outfit . Well that puts the Kerry haven't beaten Mayo in Croke Park since 2011 to bed, what's the next still stick that the media will use to bate us with. Let us retreat now to the long grass with our McGrath and league cups and enjoy the show. Unfortunately after handing out such a hammering in Croker it will be quite hard to retreat to the long grass. It's all abroad the hype train fueled by the media and opposition... Choo Choo... Management will have their work cut out ensuring Kerry hit the ground running when they next take to Croker. I'm afraid you might be right. I'm really happy with the result today but I was the same last year when we beat Tyrone but we all know how that turned out later in the year. I'm still going to enjoy this win and I hope the Kerry squad do as well but then park it and it's a clean slate and get the hard slog training done now.
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Post by oldschool on Apr 3, 2022 20:12:43 GMT
Best Kerry performance in a long time Very hard to pick MOTM. Gavin White was excellent Shocking display of sportsmanship by O Hora. He really let himself down How do umpires and linesmen manage to see nothing? I did not think Mayo were such "off the ball" specialists Did we show our hand too early? Praise to Jack O Connor and Co.
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Post by Kingdomson on Apr 3, 2022 20:12:56 GMT
Well done Kerry! Agree with others, hope the players and management enjoy tonight. They deserve a good night after an excellent league campaign. The cup with no name next and then hopefully a serious assault on Sam.
O'Hora embarrassed himself and the poor boy learnt an old lesson - just don't let your mouth write checks you can't cash.
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Post by thehermit on Apr 3, 2022 20:14:17 GMT
Lads can anyone tell me why Cliffords first free around the 14 min mark was a free in? The one resulting from when he jumped into the Mayo keeper?
Was sitting at the other end of the Hogan and couldn't understand that decision.
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Post by Annascaultilidie on Apr 3, 2022 20:15:20 GMT
I saw a suggestion that O'Hora was upset by something that happened with Clifford and an injured Kerry player.
We don't need to stick the boot in further, he was decorated sufficiently by David Clifford.
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Post by Annascaultilidie on Apr 3, 2022 20:16:10 GMT
Lads can anyone tell me why Cliffords first free around the 14 min mark was a free in? The one resulting from when he jumped into the Mayo keeper? Was sitting at the other end of the Hogan and couldn't understand that decision. DC was pulled back by the Mayo back. I thought the ref could have reversed the decision to be honest.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 3, 2022 20:16:51 GMT
Lads can anyone tell me why Cliffords first free around the 14 min mark was a free in? The one resulting from when he jumped into the Mayo keeper? Was sitting at the other end of the Hogan and couldn't understand that decision. the reff signaled a pull back the hermit but I watched it on the big screen and couldn't see anything.
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Post by Kingdomson on Apr 3, 2022 20:20:28 GMT
Lads can anyone tell me why Cliffords first free around the 14 min mark was a free in? The one resulting from when he jumped into the Mayo keeper? Was sitting at the other end of the Hogan and couldn't understand that decision. Same here, I thought it should have been a free out?
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Post by Mickmack on Apr 3, 2022 20:28:09 GMT
Great performance. Great to see Gavin White back, and he was on fire, thought he was man-of-the-match in the first-half, before Clifford turned on the afterburners in the second half. Really not happy at all with the hit on him for the goal. This was a really dangerous play, and the GAA are not doing enough to protect players against this. I notice in rugby, they are protecting players much more with harsh punishment for dangerous play, but this is not the case in the GAA. He has just come back from injury following a cynical foul, and he gets clattered again in the head, and no action taken. Presumably the ref didn't see it (or any umpires or anything), in that case I wonder will there be any retrospective punishment? (not holding my breath) PG poked the ball forward, it bounced up in the air, GW showed huge bravery in going for it by leaping up and slapping in into the net in the same split second that the keeper came to punch the ball. The keeper fist hit his head in that split second. I honestly wouldnt blame the keeper at all.
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Post by givehimaball on Apr 3, 2022 20:52:40 GMT
Great performance. Great to see Gavin White back, and he was on fire, thought he was man-of-the-match in the first-half, before Clifford turned on the afterburners in the second half. Really not happy at all with the hit on him for the goal. This was a really dangerous play, and the GAA are not doing enough to protect players against this. I notice in rugby, they are protecting players much more with harsh punishment for dangerous play, but this is not the case in the GAA. He has just come back from injury following a cynical foul, and he gets clattered again in the head, and no action taken. Presumably the ref didn't see it (or any umpires or anything), in that case I wonder will there be any retrospective punishment? (not holding my breath) PG poked the ball forward, it bounced up in the air, GW showed huge bravery in going for it by leaping up and slapping in into the net in the same split second that the keeper came to punch the ball. The keeper fist hit his head in that split second. I honestly wouldnt blame the keeper at all. It wasn't the keeper. It was Ryan O'Donoghue. I thought it was a stonewall yellow for dangerous play and personally I think it should be a red card offence given the dangers of concussion/blows to the head. For me the GAA is still not doing enough around the area of concussion/head injuries. Sadly I fear there isn't going to be any change until someone gets seriously injured/dies.
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Post by hatchetman on Apr 3, 2022 21:10:56 GMT
I suspect that the biggest danger for Kerry is that they might not have another meaningful match until the AI semis on July 9/10, that's almost 100 days away.
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Post by southward on Apr 3, 2022 21:21:27 GMT
PG poked the ball forward, it bounced up in the air, GW showed huge bravery in going for it by leaping up and slapping in into the net in the same split second that the keeper came to punch the ball. The keeper fist hit his head in that split second. I honestly wouldnt blame the keeper at all. It wasn't the keeper. It was Ryan O'Donoghue. I thought it was a stonewall yellow for dangerous play and personally I think it should be a red card offence given the dangers of concussion/blows to the head. For me the GAA is still not doing enough around the area of concussion/head injuries. Sadly I fear there isn't going to be any change until someone gets seriously injured/dies. If it was rugby, he would have got at least a yellow and very possibly red. Awful decision to give DOC a black card for a slip, don't think the ref really saw it properly. AOS with the theatrical dive of course, must have had the Baywatch shorts on underneath. On another day that could have been a turning point. On the other hand, I suppose Barry was lucky enough.
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