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Post by peanuts on Apr 1, 2022 19:51:08 GMT
That is as strong a defensive unit as we can put out and will not concede scores cheaply . Midfield still very much on probation and forward set up puzzling . Assumption is that Adrian will come out to assist midfield and Stephen will slot into his space leaving Geaney and DC inside . Cannot see Tony Brosnan cooling his heels on the bench all day so maybe 2nd half demand for him and Savage at the expense of Geaney and Stephen ? But what do I know ? In Jack we trust so roll on Sunday . Best of luck to our boys and safe travel and return to all . Why do you say our forward set up is puzzling? Brosnan is unlucky not to be there but if he was it would be instead of Geaney. It’s our strongest available forward line otherwise IMO.
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Post by hatchetman on Apr 1, 2022 20:03:05 GMT
Is Dan O'Donoghue the only injured player missing?
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Post by thehermit on Apr 1, 2022 20:05:20 GMT
Incredibly harsh on Tony Brosnan. But it might just be a horses for courses judgement call by the management Royal, I doubt its about any concerns over Brosnan's ability.
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Post by Kerryman Randy Savage on Apr 1, 2022 20:10:01 GMT
Strong team. I would have swapped White to 7, Begley to the corner and Graham to wing back. Nice to see Moran and Seánie back in some form. Great news for the Championship.
I think Kerry need to win as they need the players to foster a winning mentality in Croker. The last win there was the semi in 2019 and before that I think was 2017 in the q/f v Galway. The last win v Mayo there was over a decade ago. Mayo may have an eye on the Galway game as well so it may not be an indicator should we win. I'd like to hope if we beat Mayo it's because both teams went hammer and tongs.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 1, 2022 20:10:55 GMT
Is Dan O'Donoghue the only injured player missing? Paul Murphy, Breen, Okunbor
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Post by greengold35 on Apr 1, 2022 20:14:01 GMT
Strong team. I would have swapped White to 7, Begley to the corner and Graham to wing back. Nice to see Moran and Seánie back in some form. Great news for the Championship. I think Kerry need to win as they need the players to foster a winning mentality in Croker. The last win there was the semi in 2019 and before that I think was 2017 in the q/f v Galway. The last win v Mayo there was over a decade ago. Mayo may have an eye on the Galway game as well so it may not be an indicator should we win. I'd like to hope if we beat Mayo it's because both teams went hammer and tongs. I think Graham O’S is better suited to the corner - O’Beaglaoich & White offer so much going forward. I agree on winning the game - we need a win in HQ and lifting some silverware there.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 1, 2022 20:18:44 GMT
🤜 right back at you, have Mayo named their team yet?
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Post by horsebox77 on Apr 1, 2022 20:34:09 GMT
Strongest panel we have released all year, I think the starting fifteen is the best XV on form, I was thinking that Graham would slip back into the corner, the form of he and O’Beagleoich, was too good to ignore, I see some are touting swopping both but I think the An Gaeltacht man is better suited to the wing whereas Graham is more versatile, the Dromid man first came to my attention as an serious option when playing in the corner for UCC.
The half forward line has more scope for breaking ball, Adrain will add more muscle to the midfield unit, while Paudie, Dara and Stephen will cover ground and be both the outlet and forward supply line.
Some are thinking the Geaney is harsh call on Brosnan, this to me smacks of Crowley vs Russell in 2004, similar Mayo play low ball to forward units, Geaney gives us an option over the head that Brosnan doesn’t, on the flip side, a cranky Brosnan off the bench with a point to prove is a dangerous commodity for Mayo to handle.
The bench for me is the big plus, Casey, Brosnan, Crowley and the big big bonus, the returning duo of Seanie and Moran,
Our championship XV is taking serious shape. Mayo had the option of springing game changers from the bench, Sunday we can spring Seanie, Brosnan and possibly Moran.
Jack has never been one for dummy teams, so I take it the named XV will start.
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Post by sullyschoice on Apr 1, 2022 20:39:39 GMT
Absolutely shocking news up here this evening about Red Óg Murphy. A rising talent at 21 years young. What a leveller. RIP. Very sad news indeed. Only 21. Same age as my eldest and in the same college.
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Post by peanuts on Apr 1, 2022 20:43:05 GMT
Absolutely shocking news up here this evening about Red Óg Murphy. A rising talent at 21 years young. What a leveller. RIP. Very sad news indeed. Only 21. Same age as my eldest and in the same college. Terribly sad.
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Post by taggert on Apr 1, 2022 20:58:08 GMT
Looking forward to Sunday and will be interesting on a number of levels, not least to see if we can right some of the things that seriously malfunctioned on our last visit there. Much has been made of our penchant for conceeding handy goals, and the 3 conceded that day were pivotal to the outcome. However, with the exception of King David, our forwards were abject that day with only 2 forwards (DC with 6 and PC with 2) amassing more than 1 point from play. Compounded by 1 score from play only by a sub midfielder also with David, Jack and Tommy scoreless, Diarmuid notching a point. To that end, I will be especially interested to see how Monsieurs Spillane x 2, O'Brien and Geaney fare on Sunday - amassing one from play between them on the day against Tyrone, noting the Templenoe men were subs. Dara also didnt score but was clearly unfit and should not have been selected. Dara aside, the jury is well and truly out for me on a number of the forwards listed above - when it comes to the crunch against too level opposition (last 4) on hard ground.
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Post by ciarraimick on Apr 1, 2022 21:34:21 GMT
Very sad news on young Red óg Murphy. So so sad. His poor family. Hope they find some peace.
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Post by ciarraimick on Apr 1, 2022 21:42:51 GMT
Interesting Kerry team and while it's hard on Casey I think the right call was made. Graham Ó Sullivan has been faultless and Ó Beaglaoich playing out of his skin. Tony Brosnan unlucky but I'm still a big fan of Geaney. Just hope he left closer to goals. Thrilled to see David Moran back on panel. I heard from close quarters to David that he was struggling and even his Dad did nt think he d make it back. Delighted for David and for Kerry. Great to have Seanie back again too. The last few years most of us wondering about fb and CB. Now the first two names on team are Foley and Morley. Our backs now seem the strongest line with Dan Ó Donoghue Dylan Casey and Paul Murphy and Gav Crowley also hovering around. If we can sort midfield and forwards for championship we can give it socks. However I'm still wary of our forwards playing too deep.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 1, 2022 21:58:30 GMT
What I like about our team for Sunday is that it's Jacks best team as opposed to a team that's picked to deal with Mayo.
Also it'll be interesting to see what impact we'll get from the bench.
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Post by jackiel on Apr 1, 2022 22:07:18 GMT
Absolutely shocking news up here this evening about Red Óg Murphy. A rising talent at 21 years young. What a leveller. RIP. Very sad news indeed. Only 21. Same age as my eldest and in the same college. Heartbreaking. God love his poor parents and family. It puts things in perspective for sure.
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Post by Moderator on Apr 1, 2022 22:11:38 GMT
Very sad news indeed. Only 21. Same age as my eldest and in the same college. Heartbreaking. God love his poor parents and family. It puts things in perspective for sure. Terrible news indeed. God Bless his family and friends.
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Post by Ballyfireside on Apr 1, 2022 22:46:12 GMT
Delighted to see David Moran back in the panel. A bit disappointed that Dylan Casey and Tony Brosnan are relegated. Maybe finish with 'finish with best' 15 tactic? We have about 10 greats and the next 10 are of a similar standard so we may be approaching what Gavin had in that we have a sub that can plug any hole - it is a 20 man game anyway and Moran would hardly be there if he isn't fit.
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Post by kerryexile on Apr 2, 2022 0:16:22 GMT
I don’t agree with the narrative in some places that this is a must win game for Kerry and that we are under pressure to win it now having lost to Tyrone. If we perform well and lose I don’t think it will make too much difference come championship. It’s no harm at all losing at this time of year, it gives plenty of time to work on weaknesses shown up by defeats. I would also like to see the likes of David Moran get some minutes into the legs and Joe O Connor & Dylan Casey get some more exposure at this level. I’ve no doubt Kerry are good enough to beat Mayo, given enough possession. This, I feel, may be our biggest issue, come Sunday. Mayo have the best midfield in the country, in my opinion. Around the middle they will try and make it as disjointed and chaotic as possible. Our midfield and half forward line will have to work like dogs to tag the counter attacking Mayo back line. I think it will be a very close game, might even have a small wager on a draw. Looking forward to Sunday and safe travel to all attending. I agree with all of what misteallaigh abú says. On the first point if Mayo do win on Sunday Kerry can learn from defeat and I think the result would have absolutely no bearing on a future meeting in the championship. A couple of other points - I am not as convinced as some others about Graham O'Sullivan. He has great attributes like skill and work rate, but sometimes he fails to read the opposition's attack and can be caught in "no man's land". With Kerry dominating most games so far it has not been a major issue. The standard will be higher as the season progresses. Hopefully some coach is working on this. Tony is very unlucky. As I've said before he is a very similar player to David. When one is doing the business the other is redundant. I thought he might have done enough to compel Jack to play both because the combined threat is worth it. Apparently not. Hopefully this can also be resolved.
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Post by backothehill on Apr 2, 2022 0:18:47 GMT
Heartbreaking. God love his poor parents and family. It puts things in perspective for sure. Terrible news indeed. God Bless his family and friends. Desperately sad. Rest in peace young man.
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Post by dc84 on Apr 2, 2022 7:52:04 GMT
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Post by taggert on Apr 2, 2022 8:01:02 GMT
No Durcan either - savage footballer.
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Post by greengold35 on Apr 2, 2022 8:22:54 GMT
Their forwards dont look particularly threatening - McDonagh must be injured, thought he would be on the panel at least.
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Post by mike70 on Apr 2, 2022 8:31:23 GMT
no issue with coen , sure we will be playing 2 man FF so I assume he will follow SOB
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Post by peanuts on Apr 2, 2022 10:39:13 GMT
DOC and Durcan big losses to Mayo.
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Post by clarinman on Apr 2, 2022 10:43:34 GMT
no issue with coen , sure we will be playing 2 man FF so I assume he will follow SOB Didn't Coen line out full back in the all Ireland final last year?
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Post by fitz on Apr 2, 2022 11:02:31 GMT
Still a solid team with strong options from bench too but Durcan, O'Connor and Hennelly (frees, 45s) are big losses. Defintely put the heat on their keeper for kickouts. Hopefully the rain holds off...
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Post by Mickmack on Apr 2, 2022 11:10:39 GMT
Some random thoughts..
In my opinion over the past 30 or 40 years Mayo have had only 3 or 4 really great forwards that you could depend on to deliver when needed.
Three of them would be James Horan, Andy Moran and Cillian oConnor. I would include Lee Keegan too even though he wasnt played upfront.
They have had dozens of forwards who will chip in with a couple of points on a good day while also hitting 3 or 4 wides.
Somedays when the stars align they they might all hit a purple patch for 30 minutes and they can take down any team then. Like v Dublin in 2012 and 2021. Sadly Andy was missing for the 2012 final and Cillian was missing for the 2021 final.
Mayo had a great team there in 2016 and 2017 with both Cillian and Andy together and it took the greatest panel of players ever assembled to beat them....by a point.
I think Mayo have regressed a good bit since then. They reached the 2020 final by beat Tipp but that was all surreal in Covid.
They hit Dublin with one of those purple patches in the last 20 minutes plus extra time of last years semi final aided by a few breaks from the ref that were a long time coming in that rivalry.
Without Cillian Mayo were poor v Tyrone in the final.
If they do manage to beat Galway and Roscommon in Connacht then i dont think they would beat Tyrone in the semi final if Tyrone arent ambushed in Ulster of course. Tyrone are always 4 or 5 points a better team in Croker and having the 2021 Ulster final in Croker suited them perfectly.
Anyway, in a roundabout way i am saying that Kerry should be beating Mayo tomorrow. The Kerry forwards v the Mayo backs looks a real contest.
Not so sure that the Mayo forwards as selected are capable of putting up a big score.
Of course Kerry if lose possession from its own restarts then the game tips immediately in Mayo favour. Hennelly is out so the new guy may struggle in that department for Mayo.
Any weaknesses by Mayo have could be shown up in the Connacht championship.
Not necessarily so in the case of Kerry. Its why i hope the Kerry v Cork game goes ahead in Pairc URinn in a febrile atmosphere. The last thing Kerry need is a repeat of last years game in Killarney v Cork.
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Post by mike70 on Apr 2, 2022 13:36:19 GMT
Just off topic on Mayo, if they are beaten by Galway, that means there into the qualifier round, which might afford them some easier games to bring cillian o connor up to speed, let us not for get, for the top 16 teams there is a back door, one of the pundits suggested it might be easier navigate the qualifiers than try win ulster.
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Post by Annascaultilidie on Apr 2, 2022 13:58:12 GMT
Just off topic on Mayo, if they are beaten by Galway, that means there into the qualifier round, which might afford them some easier games to bring cillian o connor up to speed, let us not for get, for the top 16 teams there is a back door, one of the pundits suggested it might be easier navigate the qualifiers than try win ulster. Qualifiers don't contain Div 3 and Div 4 fodder though - unlike the Connacht SF.
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Post by fitz on Apr 2, 2022 14:03:07 GMT
I think it’s a lot to expect for Cillian O’Connor to have significant impact after such an injury. He’s just shy of 30, lot ball played. Gooch certainly wasn’t the same back in 2015 on his return
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