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Post by Annascaultilidie on Mar 21, 2022 12:52:02 GMT
I agree it's Shane Ryan as our number 1 due to his stature and presence, no way Murphy would have blocked that shot at the end, the ball would have hit the roof of the net. My point in the debate on GK is that it is not as clear cut as some commentators are making it out to be. You can't say for definite that SM would not have saved it as he is capable of pulling off some fantastic saves. SR did make the save but it was a poor short kick out that led to the chance in the first place. Neither have made a mistake that has cost Kerry in the league so far so therefore all our discussion on the top is based on a pre existing bias in one way or the other. As Mike70 alluded to none of us have access to the states that will be used to select the no. 1 and I would think that a non measurable such as "presence" would not come into the decision. I would imagine that the main stat will be kickouts but this is stat is not a direct reflection on the GK as our poor MF showing under high ball has an effect on this stat. The "pre existing bias" for most of us won't have come out of thin air. I think a Kerry jittery under the high ball is not a good Kerry and for that reason I like Ryan. But that would have to come with a functional kickout strategy. I am not sure if either GK has had a chance to work with one (and the wind has been a factor too). I am glad that the folly of "short all day" was exposed in last year's AISF. |
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Post by veteran on Mar 21, 2022 13:01:50 GMT
Musings from the couch:
Kerry made it unnecessarily difficult for themselves at the end, chiefly due to some sloppy shooting in the first half and , at times in the second half , a regression to the pass the parcel methodology. The game seemed to be of moderate quality with Armagh very often being how, shall I put it, a little over confrontational resulting in some careless head high tackles. The referee was rather lenient in his attitude to these and ,while I am talking about him, his penalising Tadgh Morley and Tom O'Sullivan late in the second half was outrageous when clearly there should have been a free out on both occasions.
A recurring theme in our NFL games, when the match is coming to the boil. is our inability to get our hands on the ball at midfield. The two lads, especially Diarmuid , seemed to play well overall but once more yesterday the opposition came at us in waves during that period when our lads were unable to compete in the air. As we have suggested before in those circumstances, could not we not split the midfield. Needs to be addressed.
I am uncertain who the better choice in goals is. A lot of people here seem to feel that Shane Ryan is number one. They may be right but there doesn't appear to be overwhelming evidence to support that contention. By and large , he was satisfactory yesterday apart from one kickout in the second half which could have been calamitous but luckily the ball was shot straight at him. It was fiercely struck and in fairness to him he dealt with it well, gathering the rebound and passing it to safety.
All the backs seemed to play well with Jason again holding up his quin against a formidable opponent. Dylan Casey is not going to concede his place easily to the injured Dan O'Donoghue.
Wonderful to see the old Stephen O'Brien being so industrious and effective. His kick pass for David's goal was a delight. Jack Savage seemed to be very composed and kicked a few beauties. Reason for black card? I thought Tony Brosnan worked hard and was in tough luck with two of his shots. I cannot explain Killian's poor form of late. I felt Paudie Clifford was magnificent.
It was comforting to come back with two more points.
Reassuring to see Joseph O'Connor up and running again.
How lucky we are top be alive during the reign of David.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 21, 2022 13:16:22 GMT
Musings from the couch: Kerry made it unnecessarily difficult for themselves at the end, chiefly due to some sloppy shooting in the first half and , at times in the second half , a regression to the pass the parcel methodology. The game seemed to be of moderate quality with Armagh very often being how, shall I put it, a little over confrontational resulting in some careless head high tackles. The referee was rather lenient in his attitude to these and ,while I am talking about him, his penalising Tadgh Morley and Tom O'Sullivan late in the second half was outrageous when clearly there should have been a free out on both occasions. A recurring theme in our NFL games, when the match is coming to the boil. is our inability to get our hands on the ball at midfield. The two lads, especially Diarmuid , seemed to play well overall but once more yesterday the opposition came at us in waves during that period when our lads were unable to compete in the air. As we have suggested before in those circumstances, could not we not split the midfield. Needs to be addressed. I am uncertain who the better choice in goals is. A lot of people here seem to feel that Shane Ryan is number one. They may be right but there doesn't appear to be overwhelming evidence to support that contention. By and large , he was satisfactory yesterday apart from one kickout in the second half which could have been calamitous but luckily the ball was shot straight at him. It was fiercely struck and in fairness to him he dealt with it well, gathering the rebound and passing it to safety. All the backs seemed to play well with Jason again holding up his quin against a formidable opponent. Dylan Casey is not going to concede his place easily to the injured Dan O'Donoghue. Wonderful to see the old Stephen O'Brien being so industrious and effective. His kick pass for David's goal was a delight. Jack Savage seemed to be very composed and kicked a few beauties. Reason for black card? I thought Tony Brosnan worked hard and was in tough luck with two of his shots. I cannot explain Killian's poor form of late. I felt Paudie Clifford was magnificent. It was comforting to come back with two more points. Reassuring to see Joseph O'Connor up and running again. How lucky we are top be alive during the reign of David. Veteran you're correct about how we make things harder for ourselves late in games, I'm wondering how much of that has to do with the size of our half forward line? Especially in the Last games without Seánie Shea , we've had Dara Moynihan paudie Clifford Jack Savage Stephen ó Brien and Adrian Spillane , Adrian is a good size but the other 3 are all small (under 6foot) then we bring on Mícheál Burns for Adrian, the amount of times yesterday that a Kerry player was waiting to catch the ball only for a bigger Armagh player to out jump them and break the ball. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 21, 2022 13:24:30 GMT
stature and presence I'd measure in who would I feel more comfortable seeing under a high ball, 5ft 11inch Shane Murphy or 6ft 4inch Shane Ryan, forr me it's Shane Ryan all day long. Donegal kicked 1 high ball into Michael Murphy yesterday and it was a goal, it's not a tactic we've seen much of this year but it's something that can happen during a tight game and for me it's Shane Ryan in goals all the way. Murphy will be OKish as a back up. Murphy out smarted 3 Dubs there, also too many cooks aspect! Some counties have star goalies while we have 2 equally good ones so maybe we need to make stars of both, risk is that as both can't play but need to make same commitment and so may walk, still I'd hope there is an understanding there, maybe they can improve each other tactics wise, etc, they are Kerrymen! Goalies also less likely to get injured or red carded but disaster if it happens and no backup, moreover if stars, i.e. Clux, Beggan and Morgan - Donegal's Patton put in a great shift vs Tyrone a few weeks ago, he was a professional soccer player in the League of Ireland with Derry City, Finn Harps and Sligo Rovers, now I'm no expert here but that ain't a bad CV? my biggest worry for the goalies bally is the man training them, he was a jittery goalkeeper when he played for Kerry so will he push his own jitteryness and insecurities on to Ryan and Murphy, when I saw Murphy punch the ball against Mayo I thought that's a pure Kealy thing to do. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 21, 2022 13:36:38 GMT
Tony Leen in the Examiner podcast has no concerns in respect of the goalkeeping decision as Diarmuid Murphy will be part of the decision making process.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 21, 2022 13:40:49 GMT
Musings from the couch: Kerry made it unnecessarily difficult for themselves at the end, chiefly due to some sloppy shooting in the first half and , at times in the second half , a regression to the pass the parcel methodology. The game seemed to be of moderate quality with Armagh very often being how, shall I put it, a little over confrontational resulting in some careless head high tackles. The referee was rather lenient in his attitude to these and ,while I am talking about him, his penalising Tadgh Morley and Tom O'Sullivan late in the second half was outrageous when clearly there should have been a free out on both occasions. A recurring theme in our NFL games, when the match is coming to the boil. is our inability to get our hands on the ball at midfield. The two lads, especially Diarmuid , seemed to play well overall but once more yesterday the opposition came at us in waves during that period when our lads were unable to compete in the air. As we have suggested before in those circumstances, could not we not split the midfield. Needs to be addressed. I am uncertain who the better choice in goals is. A lot of people here seem to feel that Shane Ryan is number one. They may be right but there doesn't appear to be overwhelming evidence to support that contention. By and large , he was satisfactory yesterday apart from one kickout in the second half which could have been calamitous but luckily the ball was shot straight at him. It was fiercely struck and in fairness to him he dealt with it well, gathering the rebound and passing it to safety. All the backs seemed to play well with Jason again holding up his quin against a formidable opponent. Dylan Casey is not going to concede his place easily to the injured Dan O'Donoghue. Wonderful to see the old Stephen O'Brien being so industrious and effective. His kick pass for David's goal was a delight. Jack Savage seemed to be very composed and kicked a few beauties. Reason for black card? I thought Tony Brosnan worked hard and was in tough luck with two of his shots. I cannot explain Killian's poor form of late. I felt Paudie Clifford was magnificent. It was comforting to come back with two more points. Reassuring to see Joseph O'Connor up and running again. How lucky we are top be alive during the reign of David. Veteran you're correct about how we make things harder for ourselves late in games, I'm wondering how much of that has to do with the size of our half forward line? Especially in the Last games without Seánie Shea , we've had Dara Moynihan paudie Clifford Jack Savage Stephen ó Brien and Adrian Spillane , Adrian is a good size but the other 3 are all small (under 6foot) then we bring on Mícheál Burns for Adrian, the amount of times yesterday that a Kerry player was waiting to catch the ball only for a bigger Armagh player to out jump them and break the ball. Our wingbacks also are not the biggest of men |
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Post by Annascaultilidie on Mar 21, 2022 13:44:52 GMT
Tony Leen in the Examiner podcast has no concerns in respect of the goalkeeping decision as Diarmuid Murphy will be part of the decision making process. That pod ain't loaded on my yoke yet today 😑 |
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Post by fitz on Mar 21, 2022 13:50:10 GMT
Brian O'Beaglaioch won't be surrendering his place on his form. Excellent again and confidence flowing. There was a big noisy Armagh crowd there yesterday and they definitely added to the pressure Shane was under from kick-outs. He did brilliantly to grasp the parried save and force his way out to safety. I think I'd prefer him as No. 1 though I think some kudos needs to go Murphy's way - he made two critical saves v Dublin and v Mayo at key points in those games. Think were 7-8 points better (but forpoor shooting) in first half and second half was 50/50. Killian never got motoring, our inside line was pretty much tied up before Clifford came on, Jason did really well on O'Neill. I agree with Vet on the two frees given to Armagh for "overcarrying" late in second half - spoke with Tadhg afterwards and he said he "thought yer man was trying to take me into bed"  It was a rugby tackle. Dylan took an awful shoulder midway through second half near the main stand. I thought it looked a red card challenge , not sure if even a booking was issued? Other folks see this? He was very good yesterday. Defence again excellent, the goal chance was from a poor kick-out, Armagh didn't generate one from play. Watching from behind goals really gives you no proper assessment of player ratings, so hard to judge distance. Get there early obviously the motto. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 21, 2022 13:51:00 GMT
Tony Leen in the Examiner podcast has no concerns in respect of the goalkeeping decision as Diarmuid Murphy will be part of the decision making process. That pod ain't loaded on my yoke yet today 😑 He said it last week😜 |
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Post by horsebox77 on Mar 21, 2022 14:18:20 GMT
There was a few areas of concern inherited by jack O’Conner from the PK’s panel, primarily, defensive frailties, a consistent midfield pairing, the media entitled “soft centre” and an over reliance on DC/SOS or the failure to close out tight games. Last year I wouldn't have classed our keeper situations as an issue. In 2019, 20 and 21 the losses in these games were not as a result of bad goalkeeping, The kick outs retention stats in Croker for 2019 and 2021 were off the charts for Ryan. I wouldn’t have held him accountable for the Dublin goal in 2019, more a 100 metre dash with ball in hand unnoticed or punished by the referee and a high ball to the square with several midfielders in situ more than capable of deflecting the issue.
My point is Jack has made great strides in eradicating certain failings, namely, our defensive both from a personnel and cohesive structure point of view, has enhanced our panel of players, we still have a reliance on David and Seanie, but in Jack’s defence, it isn’t possible to replace one off players. He has however given us options, like Paudie on the forty if Seanie isn’t there and Tony for Dc if required, the panel is growing and we have now a bench more than capable of competing,
The keeper “issue” is not an issue, more one created like the phantom media “soft centre”.
Both have pros and cons. At stages in key games to date, when in trouble the ball was often driven long to the same side of the field, this happened with both Murphy vs Mayo and Ryan vs Donegal, at least yesterday both wings were utilised. In the past too we had the option of bringing Tommy deep late on to win primary possession, this ploy has served us well over the years, I recall big Mike doing similar in 2009 etc. when teams were getting on top in the middle.
Maybe some see David Moran as this option, I don’t know, I think his ship has sailed, Joe O’Conner is an engine man as opposed to the high fielder, but one cannot blame the keeper if the four wing men are not in the correct position to win breaks. Alternatively you work out key moves or set plays for long ball that maximised your ratio to win. It’s not rocket science, recently I have had my keeper make a signal, and all six backs and two midfielders will run to the same area of the field, if your opposition is going zonal, the likelihood is you will have eight vs five in a small square, the percentage chance of that is 8/13 of winning the breaks, this will work maybe three or max four times per game, so you utilize at key or crucial times, for anyone interested in Cheltenham.. you know 8/13 is more or less guaranteed winner
Like I said, I don’t think we have a keeper issue, for me we have a goalkeeper, and luckily enough, we also have a backup, many more counties would only love the choices.
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Post by dc84 on Mar 21, 2022 14:52:37 GMT
Kickouts were far too slow if you are going short they have to be fast and snappy instead yesterday it seemed to take an age for the ball to be kicked allowing armagh to be set.
There is a distinct lack of primary fielders though which doesn't help and makes it a lottery some serious work to be done there over next few weeks.
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Post by Ballyfireside on Mar 21, 2022 14:58:08 GMT
Murphy out smarted 3 Dubs there, also too many cooks aspect! Some counties have star goalies while we have 2 equally good ones so maybe we need to make stars of both, risk is that as both can't play but need to make same commitment and so may walk, still I'd hope there is an understanding there, maybe they can improve each other tactics wise, etc, they are Kerrymen! Goalies also less likely to get injured or red carded but disaster if it happens and no backup, moreover if stars, i.e. Clux, Beggan and Morgan - Donegal's Patton put in a great shift vs Tyrone a few weeks ago, he was a professional soccer player in the League of Ireland with Derry City, Finn Harps and Sligo Rovers, now I'm no expert here but that ain't a bad CV? my biggest worry for the goalies bally is the man training them, he was a jittery goalkeeper when he played for Kerry so will he push his own jitteryness and insecurities on to Ryan and Murphy, when I saw Murphy punch the ball against Mayo I thought that's a pure Kealy thing to do. Jazus I hate to agree wholeheartedly with you again but with respect, that's hardly a surprise and isn't just limited to keepers. We also need to be the leaders and evolvers as opposed to followers, we are Kerry and we have a headstart, at worst we are as good as anyone once we do the right things. As I may have said elsewhere, it may be the difference in the managers that determines where Sam has his xMas dinner! |
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Post by royalkerryfan on Mar 21, 2022 15:05:10 GMT
Brian O'Beaglaioch won't be surrendering his place on his form. Excellent again and confidence flowing. There was a big noisy Armagh crowd there yesterday and they definitely added to the pressure Shane was under from kick-outs. He did brilliantly to grasp the parried save and force his way out to safety. I think I'd prefer him as No. 1 though I think some kudos needs to go Murphy's way - he made two critical saves v Dublin and v Mayo at key points in those games. Think were 7-8 points better (but forpoor shooting) in first half and second half was 50/50. Killian never got motoring, our inside line was pretty much tied up before Clifford came on, Jason did really well on O'Neill. I agree with Vet on the two frees given to Armagh for "overcarrying" late in second half - spoke with Tadhg afterwards and he said he "thought yer man was trying to take me into bed" It was a rugby tackle. Dylan took an awful shoulder midway through second half near the main stand. I thought it looked a red card challenge , not sure if even a booking was issued? Other folks see this? He was very good yesterday. Defence again excellent, the goal chance was from a poor kick-out, Armagh didn't generate one from play. Watching from behind goals really gives you no proper assessment of player ratings, so hard to judge distance. Get there early obviously the motto. Regarding Dylan Casey this lad is a fantastic player and added that Dan O'Donoghue and we have 2 really sticky backs reminds me of Marc O'Sè and Tom O Sullivan from the 00s. The hit yesterday was a minimum a black card as it was late and the ref bottled it and gave a yellow |
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Post by dc84 on Mar 21, 2022 15:48:22 GMT
There was a few areas of concern inherited by jack O’Conner from the PK’s panel, primarily, defensive frailties, a consistent midfield pairing, the media entitled “soft centre” and an over reliance on DC/SOS or the failure to close out tight games. Last year I wouldn't have classed our keeper situations as an issue. In 2019, 20 and 21 the losses in these games were not as a result of bad goalkeeping, The kick outs retention stats in Croker for 2019 and 2021 were off the charts for Ryan. I wouldn’t have held him accountable for the Dublin goal in 2019, more a 100 metre dash with ball in hand unnoticed or punished by the referee and a high ball to the square with several midfielders in situ more than capable of deflecting the issue. My point is Jack has made great strides in eradicating certain failings, namely, our defensive both from a personnel and cohesive structure point of view, has enhanced our panel of players, we still have a reliance on David and Seanie, but in Jack’s defence, it isn’t possible to replace one off players. He has however given us options, like Paudie on the forty if Seanie isn’t there and Tony for Dc if required, the panel is growing and we have now a bench more than capable of competing, The keeper “issue” is not an issue, more one created like the phantom media “soft centre”. Both have pros and cons. At stages in key games to date, when in trouble the ball was often driven long to the same side of the field, this happened with both Murphy vs Mayo and Ryan vs Donegal, at least yesterday both wings were utilised. In the past too we had the option of bringing Tommy deep late on to win primary possession, this ploy has served us well over the years, I recall big Mike doing similar in 2009 etc. when teams were getting on top in the middle. Maybe some see David Moran as this option, I don’t know, I think his ship has sailed, Joe O’Conner is an engine man as opposed to the high fielder, but one cannot blame the keeper if the four wing men are not in the correct position to win breaks. Alternatively you work out key moves or set plays for long ball that maximised your ratio to win. It’s not rocket science, recently I have had my keeper make a signal, and all six backs and two midfielders will run to the same area of the field, if your opposition is going zonal, the likelihood is you will have eight vs five in a small square, the percentage chance of that is 8/13 of winning the breaks, this will work maybe three or max four times per game, so you utilize at key or crucial times, for anyone interested in Cheltenham.. you know 8/13 is more or less guaranteed winner Like I said, I don’t think we have a keeper issue, for me we have a goalkeeper, and luckily enough, we also have a backup, many more counties would only love the choices. Spot on horse i don't think we have a gk problem we have a gk question as to who is better which is a different thing entirely. What we do have is a general kickout issue when we are pushed up on. Now given how well I believe that Jack and co have done in addressing the obvious defensive issues and less obvious attacking ones. The soft centre has for my mind been a collective issue rather than individual ( although playing Morley and beaglaoich in their best positions certainly helps! The addition of Adrian spillanes raw aggression strenght and work rate has been huge aswell Jack loves a hard working half forward and it's Excatly what we need. The midfield is a funny one Jack and Diarmuid won midfield in general play hands down in my book Diarmuid just glides over the ground and will love croke park. Jack was aggressive yesterday put in some shuddering hits on lads. But they are not the best fielders we have ever had which is about the only real problem I see at the moment which could hurt us later. I have faith that Jack o connor , Diarmuid Murphy and kealy know what they are doing and I wouldn't be surprised if there is a few good kickout strategies being worked on we don't need to show our hand now croke park in a few months will do fine |
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Post by fitz on Mar 21, 2022 16:56:48 GMT
There was a few areas of concern inherited by jack O’Conner from the PK’s panel, primarily, defensive frailties, a consistent midfield pairing, the media entitled “soft centre” and an over reliance on DC/SOS or the failure to close out tight games. Last year I wouldn't have classed our keeper situations as an issue. In 2019, 20 and 21 the losses in these games were not as a result of bad goalkeeping, The kick outs retention stats in Croker for 2019 and 2021 were off the charts for Ryan. I wouldn’t have held him accountable for the Dublin goal in 2019, more a 100 metre dash with ball in hand unnoticed or punished by the referee and a high ball to the square with several midfielders in situ more than capable of deflecting the issue. My point is Jack has made great strides in eradicating certain failings, namely, our defensive both from a personnel and cohesive structure point of view, has enhanced our panel of players, we still have a reliance on David and Seanie, but in Jack’s defence, it isn’t possible to replace one off players. He has however given us options, like Paudie on the forty if Seanie isn’t there and Tony for Dc if required, the panel is growing and we have now a bench more than capable of competing, The keeper “issue” is not an issue, more one created like the phantom media “soft centre”. Both have pros and cons. At stages in key games to date, when in trouble the ball was often driven long to the same side of the field, this happened with both Murphy vs Mayo and Ryan vs Donegal, at least yesterday both wings were utilised. In the past too we had the option of bringing Tommy deep late on to win primary possession, this ploy has served us well over the years, I recall big Mike doing similar in 2009 etc. when teams were getting on top in the middle. Maybe some see David Moran as this option, I don’t know, I think his ship has sailed, Joe O’Conner is an engine man as opposed to the high fielder, but one cannot blame the keeper if the four wing men are not in the correct position to win breaks. Alternatively you work out key moves or set plays for long ball that maximised your ratio to win. It’s not rocket science, recently I have had my keeper make a signal, and all six backs and two midfielders will run to the same area of the field, if your opposition is going zonal, the likelihood is you will have eight vs five in a small square, the percentage chance of that is 8/13 of winning the breaks, this will work maybe three or max four times per game, so you utilize at key or crucial times, for anyone interested in Cheltenham.. you know 8/13 is more or less guaranteed winner Like I said, I don’t think we have a keeper issue, for me we have a goalkeeper, and luckily enough, we also have a backup, many more counties would only love the choices. We lost every break bar one in the second half when Shane had to go long, Armagh seemed to get more players closer to the ball landing zone than us. |
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Post by royalkerryfan on Mar 21, 2022 17:19:40 GMT
There was a few areas of concern inherited by jack O’Conner from the PK’s panel, primarily, defensive frailties, a consistent midfield pairing, the media entitled “soft centre” and an over reliance on DC/SOS or the failure to close out tight games. Last year I wouldn't have classed our keeper situations as an issue. In 2019, 20 and 21 the losses in these games were not as a result of bad goalkeeping, The kick outs retention stats in Croker for 2019 and 2021 were off the charts for Ryan. I wouldn’t have held him accountable for the Dublin goal in 2019, more a 100 metre dash with ball in hand unnoticed or punished by the referee and a high ball to the square with several midfielders in situ more than capable of deflecting the issue. My point is Jack has made great strides in eradicating certain failings, namely, our defensive both from a personnel and cohesive structure point of view, has enhanced our panel of players, we still have a reliance on David and Seanie, but in Jack’s defence, it isn’t possible to replace one off players. He has however given us options, like Paudie on the forty if Seanie isn’t there and Tony for Dc if required, the panel is growing and we have now a bench more than capable of competing, The keeper “issue” is not an issue, more one created like the phantom media “soft centre”. Both have pros and cons. At stages in key games to date, when in trouble the ball was often driven long to the same side of the field, this happened with both Murphy vs Mayo and Ryan vs Donegal, at least yesterday both wings were utilised. In the past too we had the option of bringing Tommy deep late on to win primary possession, this ploy has served us well over the years, I recall big Mike doing similar in 2009 etc. when teams were getting on top in the middle. Maybe some see David Moran as this option, I don’t know, I think his ship has sailed, Joe O’Conner is an engine man as opposed to the high fielder, but one cannot blame the keeper if the four wing men are not in the correct position to win breaks. Alternatively you work out key moves or set plays for long ball that maximised your ratio to win. It’s not rocket science, recently I have had my keeper make a signal, and all six backs and two midfielders will run to the same area of the field, if your opposition is going zonal, the likelihood is you will have eight vs five in a small square, the percentage chance of that is 8/13 of winning the breaks, this will work maybe three or max four times per game, so you utilize at key or crucial times, for anyone interested in Cheltenham.. you know 8/13 is more or less guaranteed winner Like I said, I don’t think we have a keeper issue, for me we have a goalkeeper, and luckily enough, we also have a backup, many more counties would only love the choices. We lost every break bar one in the second half when Shane had to go long, Armagh seemed to get more players closer to the ball landing zone than us. Absolutely, for a large part of that 2nd half we couldn't get out of our half and get the ball away. |
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Post by egbabroad on Mar 21, 2022 17:55:00 GMT
KY were on top in the 1st half and should have gone in more than 4 up if they had slotted some of the wides. 2nd half fairly even with DC making the difference. We need to be able to function without DC, in case he gets injured or falls for the dark arts that teams like the Dubs or Tyrone will use on him
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Post by Ard Mhacha on Mar 21, 2022 18:02:05 GMT
I'd actually prefer to see Kildare meet us, I suspect Mayo and Armagh are simply not that interested in a League title. It might be a case of both of them going out next week not overly concerned about winning.
It is strange, but probably true. Even though the league gives us some great competitive games, and everyone wants to be in Div 1 in order to properly compete, nobody seems to want to win the thing! We’ve only won it once, been in 4 finals, and few even in Armagh seems ar$ed about winning a national title. |
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Post by dc84 on Mar 21, 2022 18:50:55 GMT
I'd actually prefer to see Kildare meet us, I suspect Mayo and Armagh are simply not that interested in a League title. It might be a case of both of them going out next week not overly concerned about winning.
It is strange, but probably true. Even though the league gives us some great competitive games, and everyone wants to be in Div 1 in order to properly compete, nobody seems to want to win the thing! We’ve only won it once, been in 4 finals, and few even in Armagh seems ar$ed about winning a national title. It's a weird one isnt it there are only 3 competitions that any team can win in a year and the league should be up there with a provincial surely but it's almost seen as embarrassing to want to win the thing ! |
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Post by mike70 on Mar 21, 2022 19:10:10 GMT
You have to take a league final, can’t beat competitive games in croke park, the funny thing we shared the last 2 leagues with dublin, but no final played due to covid, the last league final we played was against Mayo in 2019, where we lost a cracking game, we had a lot of young guys pkaying that day, it was an invaluable experience.
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Post by dc84 on Mar 21, 2022 19:33:26 GMT
You have to take a league final, can’t beat competitive games in croke park, the funny thing we shared the last 2 leagues with dublin, but no final played due to covid, the last league final we played was against Mayo in 2019, where we lost a cracking game, we had a lot of young guys pkaying that day, it was an invaluable experience. Yes that was a good game and showed our lads what to expect come championship. Mayo people were fairly happy after aswell ! And rightly so |
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Post by hatchetman on Mar 21, 2022 19:33:53 GMT
How did Graham O'Sullivan play yesterday, haven't seen his name mentioned?
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Post by carthalawn on Mar 21, 2022 19:53:07 GMT
How did Graham O'Sullivan play yesterday, haven't seen his name mentioned? From my vantage point he did little wrong - when Kerry had possession in attack he played very high up the field (in first half in particular), which was clearly a management ask. Numerous times he got in some great positions. Covered a lot of ground and has the engine. Half back line is hyper competitive for starting slots / should start again next weekend. |
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Post by carthalawn on Mar 21, 2022 20:00:57 GMT
How did Graham O'Sullivan play yesterday, haven't seen his name mentioned? The challenge for our HB line is in the air - limited kickout options |
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Post by royalkerryfan on Mar 21, 2022 20:06:41 GMT
How did Graham O'Sullivan play yesterday, haven't seen his name mentioned? Solid,brave strong on ball. Gave one poor pass to Clifford in the 2nd half but overall I thought he did well. Won the final ball across the square and was taken out of it. Very brave and strong from him. |
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Post by thehermit on Mar 21, 2022 20:56:47 GMT
porky pies I’d say, spec savers for glasses and hearing aids I’d say. 😂😂😂 Well I don't understand that Sully, I was in the covered terrace opposite the stand and was in the ground about 15-20 past 1 and the first thing that I heard come on the PA was the announcement about the minutes silence as a mark of respect for the victims of Covid and then the anthem. As for the other reason I'm being directed to Specsavers there was a point scored at my side of the field that looked wide to everyone in that section. Maybe I'm mistaking Savage as the scorer, I haven't watched back any of the game yet. Was watching the game back, it was Savage and his point in the 25th minute (Kerry's 7th) that I am referring to. Certainly looked wide to myself and those around me in the covered stand on the left side of the field. |
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Post by sullyschoice on Mar 21, 2022 21:07:57 GMT
porky pies I’d say, spec savers for glasses and hearing aids I’d say. 😂😂😂 Well I don't understand that Sully, I was in the covered terrace opposite the stand and was in the ground about 15-20 past 1 and the first thing that I heard come on the PA was the announcement about the minutes silence as a mark of respect for the victims of Covid and then the anthem. As for the other reason I'm being directed to Specsavers there was a point scored at my side of the field that looked wide to everyone in that section. Maybe I'm mistaking Savage as the scorer, I haven't watched back any of the game yet. Seriously, I don't remember ever hearing more announcements at a match. I was in the main stand, so opposite where you were. I heard a few people around me grumbling about a point that they thought was wide too. I certainly couldn't tell from my angle. |
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Post by mike70 on Mar 21, 2022 21:41:51 GMT
Well I don't understand that Sully, I was in the covered terrace opposite the stand and was in the ground about 15-20 past 1 and the first thing that I heard come on the PA was the announcement about the minutes silence as a mark of respect for the victims of Covid and then the anthem. As for the other reason I'm being directed to Specsavers there was a point scored at my side of the field that looked wide to everyone in that section. Maybe I'm mistaking Savage as the scorer, I haven't watched back any of the game yet. Was watching the game back, it was Savage and his point in the 25th minute (Kerry's 7th) that I am referring to. Certainly looked wide to myself and those around me in the covered stand on the left side of the field. as I said previously I was behind the goals and it was over, the ball went very high, drifted off for sure but def over, as already said yesterday, not sure why your even disputing a Kerry point, we take everyone we can get. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 21, 2022 22:20:11 GMT
You have to take a league final, can’t beat competitive games in croke park, the funny thing we shared the last 2 leagues with dublin, but no final played due to covid, the last league final we played was against Mayo in 2019, where we lost a cracking game, we had a lot of young guys pkaying that day, it was an invaluable experience. Mike we only shared 1 league with dublin and that was last year even though technically we finished ahead of them on scoring difference. In 2020 we finished 1st 1 point ahead of dublin so we were clear winners that year. |
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Post by royalkerryfan on Mar 21, 2022 22:56:28 GMT
I just watched the game again,
That was one of the worst refereeing performances I've seen in a long time for both sides.
The 2nd last free he brought it forward about 30 meters.
The last tackle by Paidi was a free in all day long.
Shocking performance.
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It was a rugby tackle.
