NFL Rnd 5 Kerry vs Mayo, Tralee, Sat March 12th @ 7.30pm

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Mar 14, 2022 11:07:05 GMT Jo90 said:

Mar 13, 2022 15:49:36 GMT @asprilla said:

no Mick I don't Clifford for a bad solo or for going for the jugular against Cork on a night when you would hardly put a bucket outside the door, it's a 15 man game not a 1 man show and he needs other lads to do their parts as well .

I just think you should enjoy David Clifford flaws and all at least he doesn't do the fool like Connolly O'Callaghan is a good player that played to an exact system and no off the cuff like our Clifford.

Interesting, I never realised that's what 'Con' was short for until now

damn those little full dots comma thingys 😂

[Annascaultilidie]

Winning without SOS a plus too.

[Jo90]

Mar 13, 2022 12:20:46 GMT @asprilla said:

Mick iv said it to you before that you've been watching the dublin robots a bit too much over the Last 10/12 years, the dubs players will play a system that limits skill but you'll get results from it, for me football should be intertaining and nobody in the world knows what Clifford will do when he gets the ball and that's exciting and I say long may it last.

The best part of Clifford unpredictability is. Its hard for teams to nail him down.

Please sit back and enjoy David Clifford, let him be himself as he won't be around for ever and the game needs mavericks after 8 years of dublin robot wars.

The rhetoric of Dublin robots died in the noughties.
In the 2010s, if you think Bernard Brogan, Paul Mannion, Paddy Andrews, Diarmuid Connolly and Con O'Callaghan were robots, it smacks of bitterness. They were all very skillful, talented forwards.
In the noughties, the Dubs had to sit back and watch Kerry win 5 All-Irelands, and much as they hated it, they would all be in agreement of their admiration for the talents of Maurice Fitz, Gooch and Declan O'Sullivan amongst others, so it's only fair to give their players due recognition also.
Yes, from 2018 on, their possession game came to the fore, but that doesn't discount their talented forwards.

[royalkerryfan]

Mar 14, 2022 11:49:35 GMT Jo90 said:

Mar 13, 2022 12:20:46 GMT @asprilla said:

Mick iv said it to you before that you've been watching the dublin robots a bit too much over the Last 10/12 years, the dubs players will play a system that limits skill but you'll get results from it, for me football should be intertaining and nobody in the world knows what Clifford will do when he gets the ball and that's exciting and I say long may it last.

The best part of Clifford unpredictability is. Its hard for teams to nail him down.

Please sit back and enjoy David Clifford, let him be himself as he won't be around for ever and the game needs mavericks after 8 years of dublin robot wars.

The rhetoric of Dublin robots died in the noughties.
In the 2010s, if you think Bernard Brogan, Paul Mannion, Paddy Andrews, Diarmuid Connolly and Con O'Callaghan were robots, it smacks of bitterness. They were all very skillful, talented forwards.
In the noughties, the Dubs had to sit back and watch Kerry win 5 All-Irelands, and much as they hated it, they would all be in agreement of their admiration for the talents of Maurice Fitz, Gooch and Declan O'Sullivan amongst others, so it's only fair to give their players due recognition also.
Yes, from 2018 on, their possession game came to the fore, but that doesn't discount their talented forwards.

Spot on.

[Annascaultilidie]

Don't tell me watching Dublin forward play stirred the soul?

Kilkenny must be one of the ugliest kickers of a ball I have ever seen.

I say that as someone who would rather their All-Ireland victories than winning the style stakes.

[peanuts]

Mar 14, 2022 1:38:57 GMT The16thMan said:

I heard Wooly (Colm Parkinson) still slated Kerry on his podcast earlier this evening, saying the following:
Kerry are still leaking goal scoring chances but getting away with it. A simple run from deep and handpass over the top unlocks them every time.

Tadgh Morely is a definite sweeper but he's doubling up on players when he should be just protecting the goal. He's not as effective as a sweeper as Kerry need.

Paudie Clifford with 13 on his back this year is being man marked alot more than he was last year when he was playing CHF and Seánie at Full because he now has a corner forwards number. (Even though Paudie was wearing 15 last year which is still a corner forward number).

Jack Barry isn't good enough under kickouts to be kicking the ball long to. David Moran is the answer to Kerrys problems at midfield.

Now I listen to his pod a lot of the time and he makes some good points from time to time but I think Wooly really just wanted to pick on Kerry for the sake of it. He tried to play down the fact that Kerry are the inform team in the country. He seemed to try and nitpick with the new defensive system we have saying Tadgh Morely is no Colm Cavanagh. Also stating Paudie Clifford has no effect on the game unless he has 11 in his back which I think is total nonsense, also does he not know how hard it is to slot Paudie in at 11 when we have the best CHF in the country in SOS. Controversial is what best describes thos guy and that puts it lightly.

I haven't listened to the podcast but I would agree with a lot of what Parkinson says. While our defence has certainly improved this year we gave up a few goal chances against Mayo & Dublin in particular. Not so sure on Paudie Clifford but he's definitely more of a marked man this year.

[horsebox77]

PercentagePlay "Can you tell me what you would have liked him to have done?"

Varied some kick out towards the terrace side. On one occasion Graham and Stephen had a 2v1 and Graham is no slouch. Both called and call was ignored.

On the soccer style punch, maybe I'm a gaa dinosaur, but what would Diarmuid Murphy, Declan O'Keeffe, Charlie etc have done .. come to the edge of six yard box, take chest high and either kick or handpass out.. certain aspects of the game have changed however ball control and basic positional sense haven't.

A similar ball came in during the McGrath Cup that hopped over the bar. For me put simply -does he command the square and in still confidence... for me unfort not, but in saying that, the current goalkeeping coach didn't either in my eyes when he was between the sticks.

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Mar 14, 2022 11:49:35 GMT Jo90 said:

Mar 13, 2022 12:20:46 GMT @asprilla said:

Mick iv said it to you before that you've been watching the dublin robots a bit too much over the Last 10/12 years, the dubs players will play a system that limits skill but you'll get results from it, for me football should be intertaining and nobody in the world knows what Clifford will do when he gets the ball and that's exciting and I say long may it last.

The best part of Clifford unpredictability is. Its hard for teams to nail him down.

Please sit back and enjoy David Clifford, let him be himself as he won't be around for ever and the game needs mavericks after 8 years of dublin robot wars.

The rhetoric of Dublin robots died in the noughties.
In the 2010s, if you think Bernard Brogan, Paul Mannion, Paddy Andrews, Diarmuid Connolly and Con O'Callaghan were robots, it smacks of bitterness. They were all very skillful, talented forwards.
In the noughties, the Dubs had to sit back and watch Kerry win 5 All-Irelands, and much as they hated it, they would all be in agreement of their admiration for the talents of Maurice Fitz, Gooch and Declan O'Sullivan amongst others, so it's only fair to give their players due recognition also.
Yes, from 2018 on, their possession game came to the fore, but that doesn't discount their talented forwards.

there is a reason Jim gavin always used the words like the "process" it's because they stuck to a "rigid robotic system" hand passing over and back, Kilkenny sprinting back in to his own half to pass to cluxtin who'd pass it straight back and then he'd spint back out to the 65 trying to draw out the other teams defence, MDMC looked like he was swimming up the pitch and looked like he was using the ball like a big yoyo.

I make no apology for my comments on dublins style of play it was poor from my neutral point of view.

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Mar 14, 2022 14:15:12 GMT horsebox77 said:

PercentagePlay "Can you tell me what you would have liked him to have done?"

Varied some kick out towards the terrace side. On one occasion Graham and Stephen had a 2v1 and Graham is no slouch. Both called and call was ignored.

On the soccer style punch, maybe I'm a gaa dinosaur, but what would Diarmuid Murphy, Declan O'Keeffe, Charlie etc have done .. come to the edge of six yard box, take chest high and either kick or handpass out.. certain aspects of the game have changed however ball control and basic positional sense haven't.

A similar ball came in during the McGrath Cup that hopped over the bar. For me put simply -does he command the square and in still confidence... for me unfort not, but in saying that, the current goalkeeping coach didn't either in my eyes when he was between the sticks.

That punch of the ball was pure Keally wasn't it?

[mike70]

Is there something in the water, the Dubs won 6 in a row, with some of the best footballers of a generation, let’s give credit where it’s due, we gave them our best shot but came up short .

The comment on Kilkenny I can’t understand , if he kicked with any other parts of his body what did it matter, I reckon one of the highest conversion rates in gaa, with 7 all ireland , 5 NFL and 5 all star, all I can say is your view is yours but I tip my hat to the guy, throw in a cruciate injury as well, might have shortened his kicking style😂😂😂.

[ciarraimick]

On the Dublin theme I agree with Joe 90 and RoyalKerry. Dublin were a fab team with some brilliant exciting footballers. Most neutrals loved their style. To say they did nt have style stinks of bitterness. I agree from 18 onwards they became a bit boring with the basketballl ball retention thing. Wonder where they got that idea? Maybe from Kerry. Pat ó Shea used in with Crokes(he was a top class basketballer) and then with Kerry. We're the begrudgers giving out in 07 semi v Dublin when we played over and back the field non stop near the end of game playing keep ball before our final score. Very robotic process and we won. We won (as neutrals call it) the most boring final in history v Donegal with a process. Do we care? I think not. In 2010 after Kerry Down game the majority of the Kerry fans were shouting for the Dubs v Tyrone but when Dubs win some find fault. History will remember Dublin kindly and rightly so. At the moment Kerry are playing a system. Not very entertaining for the neutrals but who cares once we win. If our team now end up half as good as Dublin were I will be more than happy.

[horsebox77]

Mar 14, 2022 15:06:39 GMT percentageplay said:

Mar 14, 2022 14:15:12 GMT horsebox77 said:

PercentagePlay "Can you tell me what you would have liked him to have done?"

Varied some kick out towards the terrace side. On one occasion Graham and Stephen had a 2v1 and Graham is no slouch. Both called and call was ignored.

On the soccer style punch, maybe I'm a gaa dinosaur, but what would Diarmuid Murphy, Declan O'Keeffe, Charlie etc have done .. come to the edge of six yard box, take chest high and either kick or handpass out.. certain aspects of the game have changed however ball control and basic positional sense haven't.

A similar ball came in during the McGrath Cup that hopped over the bar. For me put simply -does he command the square and in still confidence... for me unfort not, but in saying that, the current goalkeeping coach didn't either in my eyes when he was between the sticks.

My question asking what you would have liked him to have done was to do with the criticism of the save he made not to do with his kickouts.

As I stated in my original response his kickouts could have been varied more.

I understand your point regarding the presence on the goal line but I will reserve my judgement/opinion until there is a barrage of high ball on top of him from a team playing with such a tactic using a big full forward and see how he fairs out.

To date neither him or Ryan have made a mistake. I think too much is being made of the competition between the two players.

My preference would be the goal keeper who plays every game he plays in goals and not at full forward. In saying that I would have no issue with Ryan in goal either.

Apologies, no that save was A1 out fast, spread himself it doesn't matter if it's the head, hand, nose once the ball is deflected. It was a good block... I do worry though that neither are nailing the spot and being the universal incumbent. Both have their pros and cons and hand on heart neither instill 100% confidence, but as alluded to, the Rathmore man has just about the edge over the Crokes man for me.

[Annascaultilidie]

I think the recent Dublin side is the greatest of all time but that doesn't negate the fact I found them very boring to watch.

They were better to watch earlier in the decade but slowly they turned into zzzz

The 2013 semi was the beat match I ever saw I think and that was box office.

Kilkenny touching the ball 60,000 times and kicking it over with his ugly style was not.

And I also said winning trumps style... but don't tell me that I have to enjoy what they served up.

[john4]

Mar 14, 2022 16:47:06 GMT thepromisedland said:

I hope you are all good after our satisfying win last Saturday night.
Sadly, this news has been tainted badly this morning, when a very genuine female staff member up here in Mayo, that the Mayo County Board Vice Chairman told her of quite a despicable incident that happened just after the the match during the pitch invasion on Saturday night.
Reportedly, a 70 year old Kerryman supporter spat into Aidan O' Shea's face coming off the pitch,
Patrick O' Sullivan, our County Board Chairman, had to apologise to Aidan O' Shea, straight to his face as it happened.
Irrespective of the loathing of this Mayo player, and he is, you cannot do this, this is as low as you can do. I hope an investigation is made, CCTV if possible and the man is caught and dealt with severely, banned from future Kerry matches. There is no place in our games for anyone behaving like this.
This is lower than low and is bound to create even more anti Kerry sentiment up here amongst the Mayoites,and spread around up here in Mayo, it's doing nothing for our reputation at all, all because of one scumbag, giving us a bad name. these type of vermin, need to be weeded out and dealt with.

It has left a spur taste in my mouth.

If this story is true it was a most despicable act and should be 100% followed up on.

There was one of our own 2 rows behind me using horrible language towards Aiden O'Shea. Totally unacceptable. Crossed my mind to challenge him but didn't. I'm disappointed that I didn't now.

That's not the Gaa I want to be part of.

[maolla]

As gaa supporters, obviously none of us condone this type of behaviour and hopefully this individual will be identified and dealt with. As a Mayo supporter, I don’t think many in Mayo (or any other county) would feel his actions are in any way representative of Kerry fans. But it’s good to see it being called out on forums like this.

I was at the game with a few other Mayo folks and we all commented after on the great fáilte we got from the lads helping us to park up, to the gardai outside and the chap leading us into the turnstiles. All up for a bit of banter and very welcoming. We were in good time and again had great chats and craic with Kerry and Mayo folks of all ages in the pissing rain. Bit of light musical entertainment beforehand is a nice touch even if hard to properly appreciate in the conditions. After the game we headed into the town for a few creamy ones and a great night was had with both tribes mixing easily and having the craic. I’m betting the same scenario played out across numerous locations in the town. So I don’t think any of Mayo supporters who were in Tralee Saturday night at any rate would be inclined to tarnish Kerry fans with the same brush as that clown. Much like Kerry fans probably don’t feel every Mayo supporter could potentially invade the pitch while dragging along a herd of stewards.

Looking forward to crossing swords again in the near future.

[thepromisedland]

Mar 14, 2022 20:13:20 GMT maolla said:

As gaa supporters, obviously none of us condone this type of behaviour and hopefully this individual will be identified and dealt with. As a Mayo supporter, I don’t think many in Mayo (or any other county) would feel his actions are in any way representative of Kerry fans. But it’s good to see it being called out on forums like this.

I was at the game with a few other Mayo folks and we all commented after on the great fáilte we got from the lads helping us to park up, to the gardai outside and the chap leading us into the turnstiles. All up for a bit of banter and very welcoming. We were in good time and again had great chats and craic with Kerry and Mayo folks of all ages in the pissing rain. Bit of light musical entertainment beforehand is a nice touch even if hard to properly appreciate in the conditions. After the game we headed into the town for a few creamy ones and a great night was had with both tribes mixing easily and having the craic. I’m betting the same scenario played out across numerous locations in the town. So I don’t think any of Mayo supporters who were in Tralee Saturday night at any rate would be inclined to tarnish Kerry fans with the same brush as that clown. Much like Kerry fans probably don’t feel every Mayo supporter could potentially invade the pitch while dragging along a herd of stewards.

Looking forward to crossing swords again in the near future.

What a 👏 brilliant post Maolla. Go raibh míle maith agat.
Great to hear that you were looked after down home at the weekend. You never here all the good apples being eaten, just takes one bad one to infect the one eater sadly.
We do hospitality really well, I'd like to think so, as its part and parcel of whom we are in Kerry. We do our best. I try to sell that up here in Mayo, that we are good, decent people.
Be nice to others, and they'll be nice to you, or at least they should be anyway.

Hopefully a potential League Final is in the offing for us two in a few week's time up in Croke Park.

[ciarraimick]

Hi Maolla. I concur with Promisedland in saying that's a lovely post. I've gone from angry to calm thanks to your kind post. Delighted you received good hospitality in the Kingdom. Thank you Mayolla and best of luck to Mayo going forward.

[thehermit]

If there's any truth in that tale that Promisedland heard it should shame any genuine Kerry supporter. People like that are the same wretches that send anonymous texts to managers or players or get out the pen and paper and scribble down their gutter bile. Didn't Eamon Fitz state he had a shoebox of such letters collected over his tenure as Kerry manager.

For most people sport is an escape, or an affirmation of a collective identity, or an excuse for some soclaising and craic and with the GAA its a combination of all that and a little more (maybe even a strain of masochism given the torturous weather people like myself have decided to go out in this past month).

But alas for some others sport, whether in a participatory or in a spectating sense, is a medium to express the anger, violence, sense of low self-worth, bigotry or racism inherent in their own lives.

Screaming abuse at young people, even kids at underage, spitting, kicking someone's head in because they are in a different coloured jersey, throwing banana skins, doing monkey chants - whatever it is - sport is one of the last bastions where such behavior (which is now socially unacceptable in everyday society) can be practiced under the protective anonymity of the mob.

Harper Lee understood the psyche of the mob very well, single them out and shame them and see how they wilt.

If this incident occurred let the man in question be identified and never allowed near a GAA pitch again.

But something vile like this isn't the only thing I find hard to understand or reason with. Its amazing how often at games down the years I've encountered people who act bizarrely and I'm not talking about people getting caught up in the heat of the moment and effin about the ref.

For example I had the Season Ticket for a couple of years but got rid of it after 2013. The main reason was because for every game that Championship I was put sitting next to this older lady from South Kerry who came to matches to do nothing but hurl abuse at the Kerry team. It was extraordinary to be sitting there listening to someone who was taking the time and money to go to games solely for that purpose. It didn't matter how good, bad or indifferent Kerry played all she did ay game was vocally articulate a constant stream of insults. We all remember the epic 2013 semi-final and Kerry's amazing performance in that first half. There I was jumping around hugging the Kerry fans around me as the goals went in, and there madam was stuck to her seat with her eyes to heaven and her grimace to hell as if she had just witnessed the school principal being caught in the arms of a student's mother.

Sure even on Saturday I decided at half time to head over to the Dunnes Stores side of the Terrace to be able to be near the attacking goal side for the second half. When Mayo brought it back to a point towards the end of the second half this Mayo supporter materialises from nowhere and with a breath you could get intoxicated from if you inhaled enough began a tirade of abuse about Kerry and Jack O'Connor for a good 10 mins. A fella in his 40s and then he disappears the minute Cifford put us back in the lead. I saw him an hour later walking through the pub on his own with a big smirk on him. Again the mentality of that I'll never understand.

Sport can bring out the best in people, but its a window into the worst in some to be sure.

[hurlingman]

Mar 14, 2022 23:01:33 GMT thehermit said:

If there's any truth in that tale that Promisedland heard it should shame any genuine Kerry supporter. People like that are the same wretches that send anonymous texts to managers or players or get out the pen and paper and scribble down their gutter bile. Didn't Eamon Fitz state he had a shoebox of such letters collected over his tenure as Kerry manager.

For most people sport is an escape, or an affirmation of a collective identity, or an excuse for some soclaising and craic and with the GAA its a combination of all that and a little more (maybe even a strain of masochism given the torturous weather people like myself have decided to go out in this past month).

But alas for some others sport, whether in a participatory or in a spectating sense, is a medium to express the anger, violence, sense of low self-worth, bigotry or racism inherent in their own lives.

Screaming abuse at young people, even kids at underage, spitting, kicking someone's head in because they are in a different coloured jersey, throwing banana skins, doing monkey chants - whatever it is - sport is one of the last bastions where such behavior (which is now socially unacceptable in everyday society) can be practiced under the protective anonymity of the mob.

Harper Lee understood the psyche of the mob very well, single them out and shame them and see how they wilt.

If this incident occurred let the man in question be identified and never allowed near a GAA pitch again.

But something vile like this isn't the only thing I find hard to understand or reason with. Its amazing how often at games down the years I've encountered people who act bizarrely and I'm not talking about people getting caught up in the heat of the moment and effin about the ref.

For example I had the Season Ticket for a couple of years but got rid of it after 2013. The main reason was because for every game that Championship I was put sitting next to this older lady from South Kerry who came to matches to do nothing but hurl abuse at the Kerry team. It was extraordinary to be sitting there listening to someone who was taking the time and money to go to games solely for that purpose. It didn't matter how good, bad or indifferent Kerry played all she did ay game was vocally articulate a constant stream of insults. We all remember the epic 2013 semi-final and Kerry's amazing performance in that first half. There I was jumping around hugging the Kerry fans around me as the goals went in, and there madam was stuck to her seat with her eyes to heaven and her grimace to hell as if she had just witnessed the school principal being caught in the arms of a student's mother.

Sure even on Saturday I decided at half time to head over to the Dunnes Stores side of the Terrace to be able to be near the attacking goal side for the second half. When Mayo brought it back to a point towards the end of the second half this Mayo supporter materialises from nowhere and with a breath you could get intoxicated from if you inhaled enough began a tirade of abuse about Kerry and Jack O'Connor for a good 10 mins. A fella in his 40s and then he disappears the minute Cifford put us back in the lead. I saw him an hour later walking through the pub on his own with a big smirk on him. Again the mentality of that I'll never understand.

Sport can bring out the best in people, but its a window into the worst in some to be sure.

Something i can never understand with people. There was a lady much the same who used to be at Kerry hurling games. Would spend the whole game just complaining non stop. I can ever recall at one game before a player had even hit the ball she complained about him giving the ball away. He actually made the pass and she said he had got lucky! Why do they even bother going..

[john4]

Mar 15, 2022 8:58:45 GMT hurlingman said:

Mar 14, 2022 23:01:33 GMT thehermit said:

If there's any truth in that tale that Promisedland heard it should shame any genuine Kerry supporter. People like that are the same wretches that send anonymous texts to managers or players or get out the pen and paper and scribble down their gutter bile. Didn't Eamon Fitz state he had a shoebox of such letters collected over his tenure as Kerry manager.

For most people sport is an escape, or an affirmation of a collective identity, or an excuse for some soclaising and craic and with the GAA its a combination of all that and a little more (maybe even a strain of masochism given the torturous weather people like myself have decided to go out in this past month).

But alas for some others sport, whether in a participatory or in a spectating sense, is a medium to express the anger, violence, sense of low self-worth, bigotry or racism inherent in their own lives.

Screaming abuse at young people, even kids at underage, spitting, kicking someone's head in because they are in a different coloured jersey, throwing banana skins, doing monkey chants - whatever it is - sport is one of the last bastions where such behavior (which is now socially unacceptable in everyday society) can be practiced under the protective anonymity of the mob.

Harper Lee understood the psyche of the mob very well, single them out and shame them and see how they wilt.

If this incident occurred let the man in question be identified and never allowed near a GAA pitch again.

But something vile like this isn't the only thing I find hard to understand or reason with. Its amazing how often at games down the years I've encountered people who act bizarrely and I'm not talking about people getting caught up in the heat of the moment and effin about the ref.

For example I had the Season Ticket for a couple of years but got rid of it after 2013. The main reason was because for every game that Championship I was put sitting next to this older lady from South Kerry who came to matches to do nothing but hurl abuse at the Kerry team. It was extraordinary to be sitting there listening to someone who was taking the time and money to go to games solely for that purpose. It didn't matter how good, bad or indifferent Kerry played all she did ay game was vocally articulate a constant stream of insults. We all remember the epic 2013 semi-final and Kerry's amazing performance in that first half. There I was jumping around hugging the Kerry fans around me as the goals went in, and there madam was stuck to her seat with her eyes to heaven and her grimace to hell as if she had just witnessed the school principal being caught in the arms of a student's mother.

Sure even on Saturday I decided at half time to head over to the Dunnes Stores side of the Terrace to be able to be near the attacking goal side for the second half. When Mayo brought it back to a point towards the end of the second half this Mayo supporter materialises from nowhere and with a breath you could get intoxicated from if you inhaled enough began a tirade of abuse about Kerry and Jack O'Connor for a good 10 mins. A fella in his 40s and then he disappears the minute Cifford put us back in the lead. I saw him an hour later walking through the pub on his own with a big smirk on him. Again the mentality of that I'll never understand.

Sport can bring out the best in people, but its a window into the worst in some to be sure.

Something i can never understand with people. There was a lady much the same who used to be at Kerry hurling games. Would spend the whole game just complaining non stop. I can ever recall at one game before a player had even hit the ball she complained about him giving the ball away. He actually made the pass and she said he had got lucky! Why do they even bother going..

I have a theory about these types of people. I'd say that they were reared in houses where negativity was the prevailing tone of commentary, they've now become adults themselves and no nothing else. There's no reasoning with this type of person as they're mentally programmed this way.

[Deleted]

I'm sorry to hear about that incident if true, it's awful bad form, could you imagine what he'd have done if we lost the game.

O'Shea isn't very well liked even by the Mayo fans, the Mayo supporters that I was talking to really disliked him and were very sour that he gave away the free at the end, but that's not on and I hope they catch the culprit.

[Jo90]

Presuming true, I'm disgusted with a fellow Kerryman to commit such a cowardly act.
I doubt any Gaelic Footballer has suffered as much heartbreak on the field as O'Shea between All-Ireland final losses and County final losses. He got lambasted from pillar to post after last year's All-Ireland final and gets dogs abuse in general, yet here he is year after year putting himself through the same punishment in the quest of winning an All-Ireland for Mayo.
He would have felt bad enough giving away the free that lost Mayo the game without that ignoramous assaulting him.

Youngsters get a bad name at matches, but I find in Kerry it's the older generation that are the main reason why Páidí called us animals.
Between this guy, the guy who attached Páidí in 03 and the lads throwing programmes at Gough in 16, it's all people old enough to have sense.

I remember in 05, not sure if it was the 1/4s or semi but 3 older lads were shouting onto the field giving John Crowley dogs abuse, asking for him to be taken off and calling him every name under the sun.
Giving an amateur player such abuse is bad enough, but it was compounded by the fact that unbeknownst to them, John Crowley had retired the previous year!

[southward]

Mar 15, 2022 10:03:39 GMT @asprilla said:

I'm sorry to hear about that incident if true, it's awful bad form, could you imagine what he'd have done if we lost the game.

O'Shea isn't very well liked even by the Mayo fans, the Mayo supporters that I was talking to really disliked him and were very sour that he gave away the free at the end, but that's not on and I hope they catch the culprit.

Yes, if it's true and if there is a culprit. I can't find a report of any such incident other that what was posted here. And what was that? - a poster says a woman said that an official told her... ffs, that's just hearsay at best. Whatever happened to not posting rumours and gossip?

Look, maybe it's true and maybe it ain't (personally, I think it sounds like bs) but either way, unless this is substantiated, we should really stop giving it legs.

[ciarraimick]

Fair enough and good point. If its true maybe Chairman Patk Ó Sullivan might address the issue and if false we will move on.

[Control5]

I spend a good few days last year deleting posts about a whatsapp where two very decent and respected senior Kerry players were supposed to have had a go at Peter Keane. It was all rubbish of course but some people are too willing to believe and share unsubstantiated stuff.

Had i been online yesterday i would have nipped this in the bud. I have deleted posts now.

[veteran]

There is no denying spitting in the face of somebody is one of the most vile, cowardly, repulsive acts imaginable. If the incident took place I wish to apologise , as a Kerry supporter, to Aiden and Mayo football supporters.

There are a few aspects of the story that is bothering me. Firstly, the story is coming to us via a third hand source. Usually a red flag. Secondly, the perpetrator is described as being seventy years of age. Did he make a declaration of his age at the time? Thirdly, and I don't mean to be facetious, if I was a "spitting" man I think I would be reluctant to choose as my target somebody who is built like a grizzly bear.

We all agree that spitting in a person's face is an unpardonable atrocity but, until proven otherwise, this story has the status of an offensive fabrication.

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Mar 15, 2022 10:29:03 GMT southward said:

Mar 15, 2022 10:03:39 GMT @asprilla said:

I'm sorry to hear about that incident if true, it's awful bad form, could you imagine what he'd have done if we lost the game.

O'Shea isn't very well liked even by the Mayo fans, the Mayo supporters that I was talking to really disliked him and were very sour that he gave away the free at the end, but that's not on and I hope they catch the culprit.

Yes, if it's true and if there is a culprit. I can't find a report of any such incident other that what was posted here. And what was that? - a poster says a woman said that an official told her... ffs, that's just hearsay at best. Whatever happened to not posting rumours and gossip?

Look, maybe it's true and maybe it ain't (personally, I think it sounds like bs) but either way, unless this is substantiated, we should really stop giving it legs.

exactly, iv seen nothing anywhere else only on here that this happened, if it did how did this lady know the culprit was from Kerry? like I said above the Mayo people I was talking to had no time for O'Shea and were disgusted that he gave away the free that lost them the game.

So could it have been a Disgruntled Mayo fan? Not making excuses (if it happened it's wrong) Just throwing it out there that it might not have been a Kerry person.

[dano]

I think we have been duped here. Still glad the Mayo guy posted and said they were treated well in Tralee. That's all that matters.

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Hello, other posts, this lady that informed me of the alleged incident, is a female teacher, she went out of her way to tell me, I trust her bona fides, as she is an extremely genuine person, now she could have been sold a duck by her county vice chairman.

As they say, talk is cheap, I was only the receiver and I relayed this in putting it out there. During World War 2, a message on posters stated, your talk can get people killed! Hence, fratenising with the enemy.

I'm going to investigate this further myself. Please don't shoot the messenger.

I will question her further about it and make more enquiries. I do not believe in idol gossip, but I believe in this lady, but she may have been duped by the teller to her.

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Mar 15, 2022 16:25:25 GMT thepromisedland said:

Hello, other posts, this lady that informed me of the alleged incident, is a female teacher, she went out of her way to tell me, I trust her bona fides, as she is an extremely genuine person, now she could have been sold a duck by her county vice chairman.

As they say, talk is cheap, I was only the receiver and I relayed this in putting it out there. During World War 2, a message on posters stated, your talk can get people killed! Hence, fratenising with the enemy.

I'm going to investigate this further myself. Please don't shoot the messenger.

I will question her further about it and make more enquiries. I do not believe in idol gossip, but I believe in this lady, but she may have been duped by the teller to her.

find out was it a Kerry person or a Mayo person that did it, there wasn't many fans from either side wearing their colours Saturday night, and like another poster said if you were 70 and going to do that you might pick a different target for the good of your health.