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Post by thehermit on Mar 11, 2022 18:13:00 GMT
I'd prefer to be missing Seanie or David now for a month than in July.They both have played too much already this season. We know what they bring to the table. Time to test out a few more lads IMO. Do Kerry need a league title this year? I wouldn't think so but I also appreciate the argument about getting the experience of a win in Croker with silverware on the line. |
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Post by Ballyfireside on Mar 11, 2022 18:43:47 GMT
The furore regarding Lee Keegan points to one of the many dark sides in our games, hurling and football. This off the ball behavior would not be tolerated in soccer and rugby. As regards the Keegan/Connolly affair , I deplored it here at the time even though , like most neutrals, I wanted Mayo to win. Off course, nobody is suggesting that behavior is peculiar to Lee Keegan. It happens up and down the country every Sunday. In the Dublin match, before the game started , Dan O’Donoghue behaved ridiculously, pushing and shoving and chest thumping. That is another example of carryon that has become pervasive in the game , to which referees turn a blind eye. Look at what happens at the throw in , in plain sight of the referee. Players wrestling each other to the ground. I find it an embarrassment. The referees answer to off the ball holding etc.? Give one token free close to the goals . They might balance it out with one for the other team later on. After that, carry on boys. Ignore the football and get on with the game! It would be very easy to eradicate a lot of this nonsense. An early yellow card at the throw in , for example, would put manners on the offender. Wrestling off the ball ? Ask the linesman , umpire , who started this nonsense . Very often the referee will have a good idea himself. Card the instigator only. Issuing two yellow cards is the reaction of a shirker. Another undesirable feature that has crept in is holding players who are trying to make a run when the ball is about to be kicked out. Dublin brought that to its natural conclusion some years ago when their fullbacks simultaneously pulled down their opponents. All this negativity is manifesting itself because it is not being punished. The only person being punished is the quality player. All these misdemeanors should be clamped down on at their inception, otherwise they become an accepted part of the fabric of the game. The examples I have cited , it seems, are now imbedded in the game . Is the game enhanced by officials largely turning a blind eye? You reap what you sow. I'd be thinking then same but laddos that played at a level and even refs would term it handbag stuff though you are right vet, it can lead to other things and yes, further infuriates the likes of the past master of Valentia. What is probably worse IMO is that it leads to inevitable inconsistency when a ref has to card lesser offenses on the ball as players don't know where the line of discipline is and the tempo is high. Maybe we need a code of conduct in the rules and panelise teams as opposed to individuals - ah maybe a crazy idea but we don't want to regulate the fun out of what is a contact sport, though taking off an opponents clothes could give a new meaning to that. In another instance Aidan O'Shea looked like he was counting the hairs on Philly MacMahon's chest and I personally think that a very serious view should be taken of doing sums on the field. Maybe a motion for congress, wasn't it Listowel's Tom Doodle who proposed to amend the constitution to outlaw the shaving of gooseberries though it looks like either someone didn't class Philly as a gooseberry or else he was a hairless one - what's the infection known as, not bald, a skin headed wan? Now will they ever name the shaggin team and take us out of our misery or we'll have to set up a thread on Doodle & Co. |
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Post by Annascaultilidie on Mar 11, 2022 19:35:13 GMT
Listening to OTBAM on Newstalk Eoin Sheehan stated Kerry will have a big player missing tomorrow. I was also told this by a reliable source however the injury is not as bad as first feared. Isn’t he a reporter? Why does he engage in such cryptic nonsense? Surely his job is to report While he may or may not accurate on this occasion, Sheehan has form for absolute BS. |
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Post by sullyschoice on Mar 11, 2022 20:04:35 GMT
He wasn't wrong
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Post by Sam kerry on Mar 11, 2022 20:04:50 GMT
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Post by thehermit on Mar 11, 2022 20:09:11 GMT
Interesting team but I would be slightly concerned about the scoring threat from that half-forward line.
Fairly light too when it come to backup for back six.
Clifford is captain btw
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Post by royalkerryfan on Mar 11, 2022 20:16:33 GMT
Joe O’Connor on the bench is positive.
The HF line looks a bit underwhelming but that's probably a bit harsh.
If we get a result tomorrow it'll be a great evenings work.
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Post by dc84 on Mar 11, 2022 20:19:25 GMT
Nice to see graham o Sullivan and savage get a look in , also Joe o connor on the bench. Cpuld be tough in mf for us 2moro need a big shift from Jack, Diarmuid and Adrian. For all the talk of Aidan o shea, ruane ,Durcan and o connor are the hammers to be hammered as Tomas would say in that middle.
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Post by buck02 on Mar 11, 2022 20:22:24 GMT
Big chance for Jack Savage to see if he has what it takes. I'm a doubter that he can do it against the big teams and Mayos attacking half backs will ask lots of questions of him. Hoping I'm proved wrong as we need more and different types of options in that line.
Will be interesting to see who picks up Aidan O Shea. Will Morley sit off him and protect his full back line? Or will Graham pick him up?
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Post by horsebox77 on Mar 11, 2022 20:45:07 GMT
Interesting XV selected, I didn’t expect Savage, I actually expected Tony to retain his place and Paudie to go to the forty. Still it actually will show can Savage hold his own at this level, in particular against opposition of this quality.
Glad to see Graham getting a run, I was disappointed he didn’t push on over the last two years. In the expected long term absence of Breen, there is a window there for players to stake a claim.
This will be a serious test for us, probably the biggest challenge to date and in this regard Seanie is an incalculable loss. Delighted to see Joe on the Bench, I trust he will get a run as the three of Jack Barry, Diarmuid and Adrain will be in for a challenging shift and back up will be required here in the last quarter.
Free taking will be interesting as opposing defenses know any foul within 50 yards will be punished, that is however, with Seanie on the field. Still we have options and I always maintain any forward worth his salt should be able to kick the ball over the bar within 30 odd yards from the standing position unopposed
Distance frees can be taken by Diarmuid O’Conner.
Lot of talk coming from the West is that a Aidan may not start even though named, time will tell…. We’re in for one challenging evening though.,, will do well to:come away with two points, a draw in my opinion would not be the worst result taking into account the team taking the field has no Seanie or Gavin White.
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Post by veteran on Mar 11, 2022 21:01:17 GMT
Very disappointed that Tony Brosnan is not starting . If you have a forward with so much scoring potential make maximal use of him.
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Post by horsebox77 on Mar 11, 2022 21:09:01 GMT
Very disappointed that Tony Brosnan is not starting . If you have a forward with so much scoring potential make maximal use of him. Agree Veteran, I alluded to as much above, I actually expected, Adrain, Paudie, Moynihan, Brosnan, Geaney and David . Still it means off the bench we have Killian and Tony for inside, Stephen for the half line, of course Joe could come in to either line. We are light on defenders though apart from Crowley, but I do like the dash of Warren, the Gneeveguilla man was very impressive in their club run. |
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Post by kerrysouth on Mar 11, 2022 21:11:39 GMT
Should be a great atmosphere in Tralee tomorrow night great recent rivalry in Kerry v Mayo games
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Post by mafi97 on Mar 11, 2022 21:16:52 GMT
The one name that interests me in that team is the presence of Pa Warren in the subs. I'm not about to make any big claims about him - because I've not seen enough of him. But I was very impressed by him as a minor - both on and off the ball. The bits I've seen of him since have reinforced my first impressions of him. There is something about him that I like. Mike Breen's absence presents an opportunity and also a requirement. I'll continue to keep an eye on him. (I'm the guy who said that Jack O'Shea would not make a senior player).
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Post by Deleted on Mar 11, 2022 21:27:15 GMT
Interesting XV selected, I didn’t expect Savage, I actually expected Tony to retain his place and Paudie to go to the forty. Still it actually will show can Savage hold his own at this level, in particular against opposition of this quality. Glad to see Graham getting a run, I was disappointed he didn’t push on over the last two years. In the expected long term absence of Breen, there is a window there for players to stake a claim. This will be a serious test for us, probably the biggest challenge to date and in this regard Seanie is an incalculable loss. Delighted to see Joe on the Bench, I trust he will get a run as the three of Jack Barry, Diarmuid and Adrain will be in for a challenging shift and back up will be required here in the last quarter. Free taking will be interesting as opposing defenses know any foul within 50 yards will be punished, that is however, with Seanie on the field. Still we have options and I always maintain any forward worth his salt should be able to kick the ball over the bar within 30 odd yards from the standing position unopposed Distance frees can be taken by Diarmuid O’Conner. Lot of talk coming from the West is that a Aidan may not start even though named, time will tell…. We’re in for one challenging evening though.,, will do well to:come away with two points, a draw in my opinion would not be the worst result taking into account the team taking the field has no Seanie or Gavin White. interesting team horse, a draw would be a great result. Disappointed that Murphy is starting instead or Ryan. I'm disappointed that Tony B isn't starting as I was expecting him to do something special. Disappointed that Crowley isn't in at 5, I like Graham but he's never done a whole lot under the Ladt 2 managers. Disappointed we have no Seánie as he's a triple threat and we'll miss his free kick as well, ( Id say Murphy will come up from goals to kick the long ones). |
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Post by giveandgo on Mar 11, 2022 21:29:53 GMT
Is Dan o Donoghue injured?
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Post by horsebox77 on Mar 11, 2022 21:34:09 GMT
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Post by horsebox77 on Mar 11, 2022 21:38:39 GMT
Interesting XV selected, I didn’t expect Savage, I actually expected Tony to retain his place and Paudie to go to the forty. Still it actually will show can Savage hold his own at this level, in particular against opposition of this quality. Glad to see Graham getting a run, I was disappointed he didn’t push on over the last two years. In the expected long term absence of Breen, there is a window there for players to stake a claim. This will be a serious test for us, probably the biggest challenge to date and in this regard Seanie is an incalculable loss. Delighted to see Joe on the Bench, I trust he will get a run as the three of Jack Barry, Diarmuid and Adrain will be in for a challenging shift and back up will be required here in the last quarter. Free taking will be interesting as opposing defenses know any foul within 50 yards will be punished, that is however, with Seanie on the field. Still we have options and I always maintain any forward worth his salt should be able to kick the ball over the bar within 30 odd yards from the standing position unopposed Distance frees can be taken by Diarmuid O’Conner. Lot of talk coming from the West is that a Aidan may not start even though named, time will tell…. We’re in for one challenging evening though.,, will do well to:come away with two points, a draw in my opinion would not be the worst result taking into account the team taking the field has no Seanie or Gavin White. interesting team horse, a draw would be a great result. Disappointed that Murphy is starting instead or Ryan. I'm disappointed that Tony B isn't starting as I was expecting him to do something special. Disappointed that Crowley isn't in at 5, I like Graham but he's never done a whole lot under the Ladt 2 managers. Disappointed we have no Seánie as he's a triple threat and we'll miss his free kick as well, ( Id say Murphy will come up from goals to kick the long ones). Ya we have discussed the Ryan vs Murphy at length in the past, we agree in this regard, i would be more a Rathmore man than Murphy. I like Graham, he is consistent and wholehearted, being a Dromid man I take it Jack will only know too well the capabilities of the man. The addition of O’Connor and Warren really bolsters the bench in areas we are currently lacking, in particular O’Conner who’s direct hard running may trouble tired defenses |
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Post by Ballyfireside on Mar 11, 2022 21:58:16 GMT
Considering the tactical match-ups I'd focus on the finishing 15 and the starting 15 - then the 6 to cover for off-form and responses to Horan decisions - maybe we are awaiting his move on AO'6 before we ambush?
Though I am currently having a good run on Sudoku and Wordle, and while there is no way that HF line will line out, I mustn't have see enough to twig what the plan is here.
Of course I'll be watching the sole NK representative to see how he comes to terms with a solid traditional GAA juggernaut - collision course of the unstoppable force meeting an immovable object.
There is a way to deal with AO'6, both with and without possession and hopefully the Ballydonoghoor laddo will lengthen the journey back into the West.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 11, 2022 22:41:25 GMT
interesting team horse, a draw would be a great result. Disappointed that Murphy is starting instead or Ryan. I'm disappointed that Tony B isn't starting as I was expecting him to do something special. Disappointed that Crowley isn't in at 5, I like Graham but he's never done a whole lot under the Ladt 2 managers. Disappointed we have no Seánie as he's a triple threat and we'll miss his free kick as well, ( Id say Murphy will come up from goals to kick the long ones). Ya we have discussed the Ryan vs Murphy at length in the past, we agree in this regard, i would be more a Rathmore man than Murphy. I like Graham, he is consistent and wholehearted, being a Dromid man I take it Jack will only know too well the capabilities of the man. The addition of O’Connor and Warren really bolsters the bench in areas we are currently lacking, in particular O’Conner who’s direct hard running may trouble tired defenses I'm looking forward to seeing Joe O'connor myself horse, I'd like a look at Warren as well, I worry about Ó'Sullivan, like why couldn't he break into Fitzmaurice and Keanes sides. I hope I'm wrong and he does well. And all the best to all the lads. |
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Post by onlykerry on Mar 11, 2022 22:41:37 GMT
A lot of backs unavailable - will certainly test our depth of talent at the back - hopefully they are not long term injuries.
Jack Savage getting a start is interesting - big test for him. Good to see Joe O Connor back with three league games left for him to get some game time and show what he has to offer. Hope SOS is not out too long - new injuries at this time of the year are unwelcome.
Weather forecast is not good which could make it a very testing evening.
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Post by thepromisedland on Mar 11, 2022 23:58:25 GMT
Just chatting to Mayo folks this week up in The Heather County, they seem quietly confident that they may sneak it here, especially if conditions are forecasted bad, this will favour their more physically stronger running game.
Even up there today, they seemed very worried about a no show still by Cillian O' Connor, remember, their Connaught Championship match is about a month away. Perhaps their medical team are taking extra precautions, he's played no football now in 2 years, that's a long time away, even at his age, too long out.
No Seanie, awh well, hopefully Savage will keep his discipline and calm his jets. We may meet in a League Final, could this be a shadow boxing exercise? Hard to know, still a lot to play for in this division.
I just hope that if we do meet them again in a League Final, that lessons have been learnt, remember we lost two games in less than 3 weeks in Tralee on a bad night and again in a League final under Peter Keane back in March 2019, that to me was unforgivable.
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Post by brucewayne on Mar 12, 2022 3:19:38 GMT
Would Ryan O'Donoghue be that hard to mark with that huge awkward left boot on him?
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Post by kerrysouth on Mar 12, 2022 8:12:19 GMT
Think Jack and his management team are trying to increase depth in the squad with the team selected while also giving more players an opportunity to play at this level to cover an injury crisis down the road remember extra time in semi v mayo 2014 and all the subs used and also not showing his full hand as they probably could meet again soon ..
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Post by kerryeastcoastusa on Mar 12, 2022 8:31:14 GMT
I think tonight is a really big game for Jack Savage. Hasn’t really had a big impact on games when introduced off the bench so needs to show he is up to this level in his favored position. I think he is more a starter than an impact player so a great opportunity for him against a high tempo team like Mayo.
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Post by mike70 on Mar 12, 2022 11:07:10 GMT
Look Seanie is a big loss tonight for sure, he is top class, but the management need to be prepared for that down the road, injuries happen, they have a system which is 2 inside, so Paudie role not at CF, it’s the roaming role, so let’s see what savage can do in that role tonight, big ask against a top class Mayo defence, like wise with casey and Sullivan , being tested tonight is great for there development, the reality is they must be doing something right in training, management would not pick them otherwise, best of luck to the new lads tonight, here is to building more depth into our squad.
It has the making of a great game, be great if the rain is stopped for the game, for the game and us supporters. Going to be some great match ups. Tight one to call , we might win it off the bench with Brosnan and Spillane .
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Post by thehermit on Mar 12, 2022 11:54:52 GMT
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Post by greengold35 on Mar 12, 2022 13:40:09 GMT
I think tonight is a really big game for Jack Savage. Hasn’t really had a big impact on games when introduced off the bench so needs to show he is up to this level in his favored position. I think he is more a starter than an impact player so a great opportunity for him against a high tempo team like Mayo. I think Jack has been selected due to Seanie’s absence from a free taking point of view - Jack’s accuracy from dead ball situations in the county championship was very impressive. |
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Post by thehermit on Mar 12, 2022 14:24:58 GMT
Never knew we haven't beaten Mayo at home in the League since 2009, some strange record.
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Post by thepromisedland on Mar 12, 2022 14:58:22 GMT
Never knew we haven't beaten Mayo at home in the League since 2009, some strange record. Whatever about tonight,if we do meet them again in a few week's time, we beat them in League Final and not make the same mistake as we did in the 2019 league campaign, I'll be happy. |
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