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Post by sullyschoice on Feb 28, 2022 0:45:58 GMT
We were very lucky not to have been playing with 14 men quite early on. It was at the far end of the pitch to me but One of our backs got a yellow for nearly decapitating a Farney man. He got a very charitable yellow.
Overall a good performance we thought. David Clifford doesn't look to be connecting well with the ball. But still ends up with something like 2.03.
Backs were very impressive.
Penalty was for handling the ball on the ground. Looked harsh. It was right in front of me.
Standout players for me were D O Connor, O Beaglaoich, Foley and Morley
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Post by Deise Exile on Feb 28, 2022 6:27:10 GMT
We were very lucky not to have been playing with 14 men quite early on. It was at the far end of the pitch to me but One of our backs got a yellow for nearly decapitating a Farney man. He got a very charitable yellow. Overall a good performance we thought. David Clifford doesn't look to be connecting well with the ball. But still ends up with something like 2.03. Backs were very impressive. Penalty was for handling the ball on the ground. Looked harsh. It was right in front of me. Standout players for me were D O Connor, O Beaglaoich, Foley and Morley Great news that 3 of the defensive players played so well and also looks like midfield finding it's feet. DOC went on one powerful run, made The highlights. Great to see. Long road ahead yet
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Post by decondd2 on Feb 28, 2022 6:44:45 GMT
We were very lucky not to have been playing with 14 men quite early on. It was at the far end of the pitch to me but One of our backs got a yellow for nearly decapitating a Farney man. He got a very charitable yellow. Overall a good performance we thought. David Clifford doesn't look to be connecting well with the ball. But still ends up with something like 2.03. Backs were very impressive. Penalty was for handling the ball on the ground. Looked harsh. It was right in front of me. Standout players for me were D O Connor, O Beaglaoich, Foley and Morley Yeah Jack Barry's arm was quite loose there. A yellow was fair from my vantage because he didn't get him in the head but on the chest. Did you see what happened Dan O'Donoghue? After Gary Mohan kicked a free late on he turned and there was an altercation. Dan limped off the field supported by 2 people. I don't know did Mohan stand on him or whether Dan had done damage earlier and Mohan just said something to him before he left the field anyway. Impossible to tell from the other side of the pitch. Either way it looked very serious.
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Post by sullyschoice on Feb 28, 2022 8:33:10 GMT
We were very lucky not to have been playing with 14 men quite early on. It was at the far end of the pitch to me but One of our backs got a yellow for nearly decapitating a Farney man. He got a very charitable yellow. Overall a good performance we thought. David Clifford doesn't look to be connecting well with the ball. But still ends up with something like 2.03. Backs were very impressive. Penalty was for handling the ball on the ground. Looked harsh. It was right in front of me. Standout players for me were D O Connor, O Beaglaoich, Foley and Morley Yeah Jack Barry's arm was quite loose there. A yellow was fair from my vantage because he didn't get him in the head but on the chest. Did you see what happened Dan O'Donoghue? After Gary Mohan kicked a free late on he turned and there was an altercation. Dan limped off the field supported by 2 people. I don't know did Mohan stand on him or whether Dan had done damage earlier and Mohan just said something to him before he left the field anyway. Impossible to tell from the other side of the pitch. Either way it looked very serious. Dan looked in real pain alright and it appeared to be his left calf. Originally I thought he had done his ankle. I didn't see what happened but the lad with the mullet was throwing himself about a bit when he came in.
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Post by Ballyfireside on Feb 28, 2022 9:38:49 GMT
So we arranged the marriage of No 15 McManus with No 3 Foley, so we deem Jason the best man marker in the FB line?
Hughes no match for DC in any department.
Only better will we get and the encounter shed new light on the benchmark with Ulster football.
P.S. As an afterthought, were we focused on unhinging Beggan's quarterback forays - now that would be thought leadership? A bit like Houlihan on Cullen re fire station on fire, and the housewife getting the smell of burning cakes!
Also reminds of the Listowel solicitors who stole a fireplace, but it was no ordinary one - it was Ballythefireplace, and as Colm Keys wisely points out re Beggan, 'if you play with fire you’ll eventually get burned' - and burnt our latchico got, now that's stigmata for our pulpit pagan preacher! Ah sure we only cost the robber a few million, Who wants to be a millionaire?
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Post by thehermit on Feb 28, 2022 10:44:15 GMT
I often hear fellas declare the League is the best GAA competition - for me that's the rhetoric of people who consume their Gaelic games from the comfort of their sofa at this time of the year. The bravest elements of a county support are those out braving the elements and after the icy breeze cutting through Iniskeen yesterday a fair few of us were dreaming of June days in Killarney.
The problem with relying on lifts is that you must be gracious about the drivers intentions but the leisurely pace we were traveling at as 2pm neared had me getting anxious in the backseat until the co-driver mentioned the match was a 2pm thrown unlike the 3pm start the man at the wheel assumed. With the pedal now pressed firmly to the meddle, we raced into the picturesque, yet deserted, village and swiftly abandoned the car. A jog, that did little good for the hangover, saw us through the gap just as the anthem was finished. Alas our tardiness meant no program and a spot at the back corner of the Monaghan goal for the first half. But in credit to Monaghan GAA Iniskeen is a fine little ground, particularly with the delicious waft of cooking burgers hanging in the air.
I thought this would be a tough, tough battle and privately would have been delighted to get out of Dodge with a draw. And those first 15mins seemed to suggest this could be a long day for the Kingdom's warriors. Monaghan were picking off a few nice points, Kerry were getting swamped by several phlanax of Farney men anytime they got to the 40 yards. On the rare occasion we managed to get a ball into the Cliffords they were smothered by a wave of white and blue. When Seanie incredibly kicked a free in front of the posts well wide, my eyes reached up to the heavens with the resignation of knowing this might be a couple of hours of your life that have been robbed off you.
But then Kerry finally began to hum and warm to the task at hand. Jack and Diarmaid wrestled control of the centre and never relinquished it. Jack was fortunate to stay on the field after a very heavy challenge and with Monaghan still very much in control early on he had a great opportunity to launch a ball into the unmarked Paudie for a serious goal chance but never looked up properly to assess his options. Still he improved as the game wore on and gave us a solid platform in the middle. His younger partner was simply immense. He roamed the centre catching, distributing and often just putting the head down and racing through the middle to cause havoc. A guaranteed starter now come the summer in my view.
If Diarmaid was the most impressive performance, Tony Brosnan wasn't far behind. Some lovely scores and he proved yesterday he has the scoring threat we need to develop outside the Clifford brothers. Dara was effective without every being eye-catching and I felt Adrian had a good first half overall and made a nusance of himself which is what we want. Seanie did not reach the heights of last week's performance but his chipped goal was the icing on the cake and will make the Ulster boys think twice about sending their keepers on these idiotic runs around midfield. I heard after we only kicked 3 wides which is far going considering the Newbridge game less than a month ago.
The goal chances might have been fortunate but you need the players to be able to pounce on them and in the likes of David, Paudie and Seanie we have the reapers to make hay when it comes.
Its really heartening to see our defence standing up so well again. There were a few times, particularly in the first quarter where Monaghan had chances to get a good strike off at goal but the backs stood up well and usually shepherded the ball out of danger. The penalty was very soft so from my perspective we still have not conceded a proper goal from play since Auld Lang Syne was being hummed. I felt Crowley, Morely and Brian O all put in fine displays. But you must also acknowledge that Monaghan after that first 15 mins were pretty poor. I was expecting a serious test but alas even the great McManus was all but anonymous. Despite having a fair breeze in the first half, their refusal to take a shoot on was maddening for their spectators.
So that's it, another two points and a game Kerry were never in danger of losing once they weathered the early storm. My companions had the idea to see Crossmagleen as it was so close so we bade adieu to Mr Kavanagh's backyard and headed like desparados for the border. A very impressive setup by Rangers there and when you see the location of the British military outpost you begin to understand what drove their incredible success. Some fine pints of stout in a nearby establishment as we watched the second half of the rugby and dissected the game.
A day well spent overall, but sure isn't it always when you have a Kerry team thats purring nicely. Roll on Mayo in Tralee,
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Post by horsebox77 on Feb 28, 2022 13:00:20 GMT
Thanks Hermit, great to get an eyewitness account.
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Post by Kerryman Randy Savage on Feb 28, 2022 13:47:21 GMT
Yeah Jack Barry's arm was quite loose there. A yellow was fair from my vantage because he didn't get him in the head but on the chest. Did you see what happened Dan O'Donoghue? After Gary Mohan kicked a free late on he turned and there was an altercation. Dan limped off the field supported by 2 people. I don't know did Mohan stand on him or whether Dan had done damage earlier and Mohan just said something to him before he left the field anyway. Impossible to tell from the other side of the pitch. Either way it looked very serious. Dan looked in real pain alright and it appeared to be his left calf. Originally I thought he had done his ankle. I didn't see what happened but the lad with the mullet was throwing himself about a bit when he came in. That Monaghan lad had the energy of a bullock left out into a field for the first time in Spring. Pure chaos anytime he was near the action.
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Post by dano on Feb 28, 2022 13:48:45 GMT
Great Report Hermit. Thanks. Also Mitchelsontour for putting up the highlights. I too expected a tougher game. Today I'm wondering were they that poor? or were Kerry that good? My uncertainty , no doubt, nourished by past disappointments. That aside, the power of our 5,6 7,8 and 9 could be the key to this being a great year. I didn't know about the Dan O Donoghue injury. The Radio Kerry guys never mentioned it. Hope it's not too serious. At the same time Dylan Casey's debut in the corner, yellow card aside, went well and with subs like Graham OSullivan, Stephen OBrien and Paul Geaney coming on and contributing, it's hard not to feel confident at this stage.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 28, 2022 14:03:02 GMT
Hi lads don't forget to pay the tolls.
Thanks to every 1 for their match reports, I wasn't able to make the journey unfortunately so it's great to hear all yer views on the game.
Roll on Mayo in 2 weeks, don't be fooled as James horan and the Mayo lads will be coming to lay down a marker for the year ahead, can't wait as it'll be our biggest test of the year so far.
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Post by Jo90 on Feb 28, 2022 14:58:04 GMT
It might be too small a sample size but could Paddy Tally be making a difference already in improving Kerry's defense? I guess that won't be answered properly until the Summer in Croke Park.
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Post by dc84 on Feb 28, 2022 15:12:16 GMT
It might be too small a sample size but could Paddy Tally be making a difference already in improving Kerry's defense? I guess that won't be answered properly until the Summer in Croke Park. Was just thinking about this , a lot of it is playing Morley and beaglaoich in their rightful positions. Morley in particular has been superb I had nearly forgotten how good of a centre back he was previously other than that the addition of a bit of dog in a.spillane in half forward line has been important also just a better balance I'm not sure it's anything too systematic just the right players in their best positions. Before bally gets on to me Jason foley has been very solid aswell. There is now more competition in the backs than the forwards in my opinion.
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Post by royalkerryfan on Feb 28, 2022 15:27:59 GMT
Truth is Monaghan were very poor no getting away from that.
I think we look much tighter at the back however the amount of poor shots from Monaghan or when a player on the ball wouldn't take on the shot should be factored in to that.
Having said that the defense do look much better and Morley is having a brilliant season so far.
The score of the game was Diarmuid O'Connor at the start of the second half, Great athleticism and power and a super finish.
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Post by Ballyfireside on Feb 28, 2022 15:52:10 GMT
It might be too small a sample size but could Paddy Tally be making a difference already in improving Kerry's defense? I guess that won't be answered properly until the Summer in Croke Park. Was just thinking about this , a lot of it is playing Morley and beaglaoich in their rightful positions. Morley in particular has been superb I had nearly forgotten how good of a centre back he was previously other than that the addition of a bit of dog in a.spillane in half forward line has been important also just a better balance I'm not sure it's anything too systematic just the right players in their best positions. Before bally gets on to me Jason foley has been very solid aswell. There is now more competition in the backs than the forwards in my opinion. As if ... MOM used say there's always wan, unfortunately Jayo is the only NK wan on the panel. I don't think Monaghan or Conor McManus became poor footballers overnight, so either Kerry (and Jayo) are better than we thought or else there is a massive gap between us and Ulster football? Or maybe the Bertie theory applies - it took us years to become an overnight success, sorry failure! BTW amazing stuff on here re League - did anyone think that Monaghan vs Dublin on 27 March 2022 could be significant? en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2022_National_Football_League_(Ireland)#League_structure
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Post by buck02 on Feb 28, 2022 15:57:25 GMT
It might be too small a sample size but could Paddy Tally be making a difference already in improving Kerry's defense? I guess that won't be answered properly until the Summer in Croke Park. You are correct - it will be the summer before we find out the answer to that. It's weather for backs at the moment. A knock out game in Croke Park in the summer against Dublin, Mayo, Tyrone will be the acid test to see what, if any, improvement has been made. What I have noticed is that the likes not Begley, Foley and White are so much stronger than they were in 2019. McGahans work appears to be paying off.
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Post by kot on Feb 28, 2022 16:32:57 GMT
With this new inflated season structure coming in and the already gaping hole with respect to live match updates (2 live games on terrestial tv all weekend, 3 if you include the BBC coverage of Down Vs. Roscommon), is the time now for the GAA to insist on whoever carries their coverage rights to have a "red-zone" style programme for match days? Wonder what they would call it? "The Large Parallelogram"?
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Post by veteran on Feb 28, 2022 16:52:32 GMT
Thanks to all who reported on the match. I listened to Radio Kerry while watching Kildare/Dublin game on TV with the sound turned down. I do not want Dublin to be relegated . The loss of Kerry/Dublin NFL clashes would leave a void in our lives . On the other hand delighted for Kildare . One could not but be moved by the uncontrolled joy of their management at the victory.
Thanks to Radio Kerry as always for keeping us tuned in.
Back to Kerry. Delighted to hear that our midfielders returned to form .
I am also delighted that Tony Brosnan displayed food form. I am a huge fan of a player in the full forward line whose first instinct is to go for a score rather than “unselfishly” passing to a colleague. “Unselfishly” in this instance too often means not having the gumption to go for a score. I feel if Jack starts him for the remaining NFL games we will get a good return on that investment in the championship.
Ambrose and Tim were mystified when Adrian was replaced so early in the second with the two boys hinting that Adrian was not happy with the situation. Perhaps , fellows at the game might like to give their views on that substitution.
I am sorry to hear that Dan O’Donoghue had to come off . The Radio Kerry lads seemed to miss that. Some here seem to suggest that the injury may have been deliberately inflicted? Perhaps I am misinterpreting their comments.
Kerrybhoy commented on the treatment Sean O’Shea is getting off the ball. I saw plenty of that in Tralee and Killarney and indeed Sean got a yellow card for that treatment in the Killarney game! Strange old world. I suppose he is perceived as the conductor of the attack. On the other hand he has become physically very powerful and should be able to withstand most of that abuse although I am sure he would appreciate some help from the officials.
I can understand the wisdom of replacing Dylan after his yellow card. It is a shame that he had to come off and I hope he is retained for the Mayo game.
Reference has been made once more to the lucky goal/s David got . Keep scoring those lucky goals, David.
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Post by royalkerryfan on Feb 28, 2022 17:22:23 GMT
Maybe I missed something as I was a bit away from it but I didn't see Dan O'Donoghue go off. If it was the incident at the end which saw a Kerry player receive treatment for a number of minutes then he rejoined the game after.
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Post by southward on Feb 28, 2022 17:30:00 GMT
Maybe I missed something as I was a bit away from it but I didn't see Dan O'Donoghue go off. If it was the incident at the end which saw a Kerry player receive treatment for a number of minutes then he rejoined the game after. No mention in Jack's interviews of anyone injured so hopefully it's ok.
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Post by southward on Feb 28, 2022 17:32:06 GMT
I do not want Dublin to be relegated . The loss of Kerry/Dublin NFL clashes would leave a void in our lives . That's very true. Tralee under lights vs the Dubs is a great occasion.
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Post by sullyschoice on Feb 28, 2022 17:32:41 GMT
Maybe I missed something as I was a bit away from it but I didn't see Dan O'Donoghue go off. If it was the incident at the end which saw a Kerry player receive treatment for a number of minutes then he rejoined the game after. He was helped off by the doctor and physio and didn't come back on. I don't think we had any subs left to put on either. Anyway the game was almost over at that stage.
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Post by fitz on Feb 28, 2022 17:39:38 GMT
It might be too small a sample size but could Paddy Tally be making a difference already in improving Kerry's defense? I guess that won't be answered properly until the Summer in Croke Park. Was just thinking about this , a lot of it is playing Morley and beaglaoich in their rightful positions. Morley in particular has been superb I had nearly forgotten how good of a centre back he was previously other than that the addition of a bit of dog in a.spillane in half forward line has been important also just a better balance I'm not sure it's anything too systematic just the right players in their best positions. Before bally gets on to me Jason foley has been very solid aswell. There is now more competition in the backs than the forwards in my opinion. I think Morley has centre back position to lose. Excellent yesterday. Swept nicely and doesn't get turned over. He's a bit crafty as well. Saw him dragging some poor Monaghan lad away up the left half forward position in second half
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Post by royalkerryfan on Feb 28, 2022 17:43:51 GMT
Maybe I missed something as I was a bit away from it but I didn't see Dan O'Donoghue go off. If it was the incident at the end which saw a Kerry player receive treatment for a number of minutes then he rejoined the game after. He was helped off by the doctor and physio and didn't come back on. I don't think we had any subs left to put on either. Anyway the game was almost over at that stage. Was that the incident were the stretcher was brought out ? I swore he walked that off... I must be going blind.
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Post by royalkerryfan on Feb 28, 2022 18:06:58 GMT
Did nt see what happened Dan but hope he ok.The stretcher was brought out for Foley but he did nt need it.Seanie was getting a bit of attention off the ball yesterday but it was nt too bad.Seanie well able for it. Ahh ok don't know how I missed the Dan incident.
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Post by Joxer on Feb 28, 2022 18:48:44 GMT
Veteran, I think the sole reason ( and Jack spoke with Adrian on the sideline for a minute after he came off) for Adrian’s substitution was that he was on a yellow card and clearly being watched by the referee. I thought at the time that he would eventually be sent off …not for anything particularly untoward but maybe a loose/poor tackle. He was playing very well and beginning to cement his position in the half forward line I think.
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Post by veteran on Feb 28, 2022 20:18:40 GMT
Veteran, I think the sole reason ( and Jack spoke with Adrian on the sideline for a minute after he came off) for Adrian’s substitution was that he was on a yellow card and clearly being watched by the referee. I thought at the time that he would eventually be sent off …not for anything particularly untoward but maybe a loose/poor tackle. He was playing very well and beginning to cement his position in the half forward line I think. Thanks for that explanation Joxer. Ambrose and Tim did not appear to be aware of that yellow card. There was a time when I was a big fan of Adrian but as time progressed I got annoyed with him because of his habit of unnecessarily getting involved off the ball with silly pushing etc which in my view , as I wrote here before , resulted only in him losing concentration. He seems to have largely dispensed with that nonsense this season and clearly his performances have significantly improved as a result. Perhaps , Jack had a quiet word.
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Post by Joxer on Feb 28, 2022 20:29:54 GMT
Veteran, The yellow card came half way through the first half as I recall and was his 'third offence' as pointed out by the referee to him at the time. I didn't think any of the offences were significant but I guess when your being watched for whatever reason, its only a matter of time. He was playing very well and it was a pity to see him go off but probably understandable decision in the circumstances. I'd imagine he'll start again against Mayo as he deserves it. I know what you mean about the needless pushing but that appears to be largely gone it seems. Definitely ruins concentration on his main role if he gets involved in that.
Overall, a good team performance yesterday. Best of the league so far. Looking forward to the Mayo game now!....will likely give us all a clearer picture of where we are at. Jack building nicely it seems to me at this point.
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Post by Ballyfireside on Feb 28, 2022 20:52:33 GMT
Veteran, I think the sole reason ( and Jack spoke with Adrian on the sideline for a minute after he came off) for Adrian’s substitution was that he was on a yellow card and clearly being watched by the referee. I thought at the time that he would eventually be sent off …not for anything particularly untoward but maybe a loose/poor tackle. He was playing very well and beginning to cement his position in the half forward line I think. Thanks for that explanation Joxer. Ambrose and Tim did not appear to be aware of that yellow card. There was a time when I was a big fan of Adrian but as time progressed I got annoyed with him because of his habit of unnecessarily getting involved off the ball with silly pushing etc which in my view , as I wrote here before , resulted only in him losing concentration. He seems to have largely dispensed with that nonsense this season and clearly his performances have significantly improved as a result. Perhaps , Jack had a quiet word. Jack O'C did say he just wanted 'em on their toes, maybe younger fellas are trying too hard and need to be tempered a bit, controlled aggression. Everyone knows that to a man they are giving it their all, it is only to themselves they have anything to prove, sometimes mankind can be his own worst enemy.
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Post by mike70 on Feb 28, 2022 21:02:07 GMT
What I like about kerry at the moment, is they seem to be enjoying there football and that the bench is getting emptied each game, be it late some times.
On the Morley point, he should always have been our CB, one poor game should not condemn you to the bench, he is physical, can read the game well, as well as holds the position well.
Jack also said they have no hard training done as of yet, so we have more in the tank come the championship, seems to be all positive.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 28, 2022 21:15:49 GMT
It might be too small a sample size but could Paddy Tally be making a difference already in improving Kerry's defense? I guess that won't be answered properly until the Summer in Croke Park. You are correct - it will be the summer before we find out the answer to that. It's weather for backs at the moment. A knock out game in Croke Park in the summer against Dublin, Mayo, Tyrone will be the acid test to see what, if any, improvement has been made. What I have noticed is that the likes not Begley, Foley and White are so much stronger than they were in 2019. McGahans work appears to be paying off. Of the three you mentioned, it is O Beaglaoich that is the most noticeable. He has added real power and physicality to his game. He doesn’t just look stronger, he is stronger. The others are naturally bigger men and it is expected to some extent.
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