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Post by Mickmack on Feb 20, 2022 22:35:55 GMT
Adrian Spillane and Sean oShea look like they are returning to their 2019 form. This is really encouraging. I think Killian showed well too. I was disappointed when he was taken off. Jack looks like he wants to win every game which is entirely understandable but maybe he should put out a more experimental side the next day.... Donegal butchered a clear goal chance from Jack Savages poor lineball. A goal then would have tested their mental resolve. Those tests will surely come in the coming weeks. Was Sean o shea not the championship top scorer last year? I presume those stats include games against the munster hurling counties.
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Post by kerryeastcoastusa on Feb 20, 2022 22:54:58 GMT
I wouldn’t agree with the negative comments on Shane Ryan today at all. I would say he had a very good game. Commanded the square and very comfortable on the ball which was really important into the wind. The kick outs were always going to be difficult into the wind as Donegal were always going to cut off the short one and our midfielders were struggling with the height and physicality of Donegal. I think it was damage limitations game plan … both midfielders to bunch close to the sideline so even if we lose the kickout we aren’t opened through the middle. I think he is a step or two ahead of Shane Murphy at this stage.
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Post by royalkerryfan on Feb 20, 2022 22:57:17 GMT
Was Sean o shea not the championship top scorer last year? I presume those stats include games against the munster hurling counties. What more could he have done so than be the championship top scorer ?
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Post by fitz on Feb 20, 2022 23:03:21 GMT
I think despite second half kick out losses and a couple ill judged finishes it was a really solid performance. To outscore opposition against that wind and leave 3 goals behind us is serious operating. Fitness levels are very impressive. Tbh I’d didn’t think 7 points was enough at half time. I think Killian was hauled for losing a ball on the ground out on right wing.
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Post by john4 on Feb 20, 2022 23:09:48 GMT
Sean O'Shea is probably our most influential player. DC will finish amazingly but everything goes through SoS. Tyrone were onto this last summer, doubled up on him and that finished us. I agree with earlier comments, 11 is his spot. He and DC are irreplaceable.
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Post by keane on Feb 20, 2022 23:16:47 GMT
Should be noted that Begley was very good today. Paul Murphy also on his best vein of form in a long time. Morley back from the dead. That half back line is going to be competitive for places.
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Post by fitz on Feb 20, 2022 23:19:19 GMT
Sean O'Shea is probably our most influential player. DC will finish amazingly but everything goes through SoS. Tyrone were onto this last summer, doubled up on him and that finished us. I agree with earlier comments, 11 is his spot. He and DC are irreplaceable. Great points. I think it was the freakish concession of second and third goals that finished us last summer
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Post by Deleted on Feb 20, 2022 23:21:33 GMT
Happy enough today, I thought Shane Ryan was excellent and when a high dangerous ball was launched into his small square late on it was held with real strength and he gives me a great sence of calm that Shane Murphy doesn't give me.
Dan O'Donaghue was brilliant, looks like he's been on the team with years, Jason didn't put a foot wrong all day and got up in support of the forwards as all the fullback line, Tom O'Sullivan did a great job on McHugh.
Paul Murphy was sharp but ran into the Donegal wall 1/2 times and got turned over. Morley was solid cleaning up lose ball. O'Beaglaoich was very strong and played some great football, he needs a spot on this team whether that's at White or Murphys expense I'm not sure.
Jack Barry very good very busy, did the simple things right. O'connor had a quite game but up against McGee who is a beast.
Adrian Spillane is quick becoming my favourite player, great honest to god hard work, took 2 blows to the face (a ball and a fist) but kept going.
Seánie was very busy and his kicking was sublime, being back home at centre forward suits him, 1 little thing though, Seánie got through on goal 3 times and punched 3 points where I think he should have gone for the jugular, they could be costly down the road. Dara was good.
Paudie did a great linking job. Geaney did a lot of work off the ball but didn't threaten the goals. Killian gave us a good 35 minutes and 2 great points.
Clifford came on and kicked 1:01, he didn't look tired or worn out, he just wants to play ball, Stephen ó Brien was very good when he came on. Jack Savage nearly gave Donegal a goal when he kicked a ball straight to McHugh. Greg Horan not much time to do much. Tony Brosnan did well, held up the ball and was play making from what I could see.
All in all a good day out, the pitch held up well.
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Post by fitz on Feb 20, 2022 23:22:30 GMT
Should be noted that Begley was very good today. Paul Murphy also on his best vein of form in a long time. Morley back from the dead. That half back line is going to be competitive for places. He’s getting the habit of being good every day, very hard to bench him now
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Post by keane on Feb 20, 2022 23:27:53 GMT
Should be noted that Begley was very good today. Paul Murphy also on his best vein of form in a long time. Morley back from the dead. That half back line is going to be competitive for places. He’s getting the habit of being good every day, very hard to bench him now Which one? Was trying to figure out which one of Begley or Murphy is most likely to be left out in the end. I guess Begley is more likely to lose out and White will come in. It'll be very hard to Breen to take a spot ahead of the other three I think. It's probably a waste of mental energy now but I seem to have a memory of Paul Murphy having a good season flitting around the half forward line maybe as far back as 2016?
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Post by taggert on Feb 20, 2022 23:32:35 GMT
Sean O'Shea is probably our most influential player. DC will finish amazingly but everything goes through SoS. Tyrone were onto this last summer, doubled up on him and that finished us. I agree with earlier comments, 11 is his spot. He and DC are irreplaceable. This is spot on. SoS is the key man. Tyrone totally nullified him and he had a real off day as a result - both decision making and pass execution suffered royally on the day. When he plays well, the team plays well. He made no impact from play that day after an amazing league and c'ship up to that point.
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Post by Moderator on Feb 21, 2022 0:28:40 GMT
So 36 voters had Kerry to win by 5 or less, while 9 gave it to Kerry by 6 or more.
4 went for the draw and nobody picked a Donegal victory.
I'm sure a few of the early voters might have upped from the 5 or less victory margin when Michael Murphy was declared unavailable.
No poll on the Monaghan game as only the poster who starts the thread can do so (I think).
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Post by Ballyfireside on Feb 21, 2022 0:55:25 GMT
I would like to see Kerry win a game in the rain in Croke Park. Jazus I'd hate that, I think we should be choosey about what weather we will accept victory in Croker, I mean we are Kerry so we have that luxury, BTW who's idea was it to win in Killarney in the rain? Seriously, the avalanche of reports from those who attended shows what we are missing with behind closed door training and restricted access by media to players. As this was the most revealing public show so far it is like a breath of fresh air to know what our player options really are. I'd say Jacko will measure the blooding by the Farneys vs Orchard encounter and the stony grey soil boyos will look to take us back a peg, they will also remember 2019 when they had us cooked until the boiling water spilt over the chef just as the meal was ready. They are an open book in that respect so it will be interesting to see who will benefit most from that specific Farney strain of blooding. Be jazus but they tortured DC that sunny day and in one instance ended up hurting themselves when they found rock!
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Post by Mickmack on Feb 21, 2022 9:34:09 GMT
Sean O'Shea is probably our most influential player. DC will finish amazingly but everything goes through SoS. Tyrone were onto this last summer, doubled up on him and that finished us. I agree with earlier comments, 11 is his spot. He and DC are irreplaceable. This is spot on. SoS is the key man. Tyrone totally nullified him and he had a real off day as a result - both decision making and pass execution suffered royally on the day. When he plays well, the team plays well. He made no impact from play that day after an amazing league and c'ship up to that point. He is our most important player. Like Declan was in Jacks previous team was in my opinion. In our exits from the championship in 2020 and 2021 he didnt or wasnt let perform. He had a huge run of club games etc prior to 2021, was injured etc. Hopefully 2022 will see him at his brilliant best in Croker in late June and July.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 21, 2022 10:48:35 GMT
This is spot on. SoS is the key man. Tyrone totally nullified him and he had a real off day as a result - both decision making and pass execution suffered royally on the day. When he plays well, the team plays well. He made no impact from play that day after an amazing league and c'ship up to that point. He is our most important player. Like Declan was in Jacks previous team was in my opinion. In our exits from the championship in 2020 and 2021 he didnt or wasnt let perform. He had a huge run of club games etc prior to 2021, was injured etc. Hopefully 2022 will see him at his brilliant best in Croker in late June and July. I watched the game on league Sunday last night and Paudies point that he scored on the run from 35 yards out was very Declan like. I'd have liked Seánie to be a bit more brave in front of goals yesterday but maybe hitting the 1 off the bottom of the post shook him a bit.
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Post by dc84 on Feb 21, 2022 12:06:27 GMT
He is our most important player. Like Declan was in Jacks previous team was in my opinion. In our exits from the championship in 2020 and 2021 he didnt or wasnt let perform. He had a huge run of club games etc prior to 2021, was injured etc. Hopefully 2022 will see him at his brilliant best in Croker in late June and July. I watched the game on league Sunday last night and Paudies point that he scored on the run from 35 yards out was very Declan like. I'd have liked Seánie to be a bit more brave in front of goals yesterday but maybe hitting the 1 off the bottom of the post shook him a bit. We were 8 points up with the game nearly over if it meant something he would've I'm sure. On a wet pitch going to round the goalie could easily lead to an injury. We spurned some good goal chances all the same we need to be more clinical in that regard all right the one we got was nothing to do with good play
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Post by southward on Feb 21, 2022 12:10:57 GMT
Can we please just have the National Anthem played over the sound system and abandon the phenomenon of some person murdering it. It seems to be the norm in all Ulster games and its creeping in elsewhere. I think we unveiled a new champion yesterday. Guy at the Dublin game was like Pavarotti compared to this effort.
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Post by veteran on Feb 21, 2022 16:46:44 GMT
They said the weather conditions at the Dublin match could not be replicated for the Donegal match. I think they got it wrong. I parked on the Cork bypass and as I muddled along the back of the pants and shoes were saturated. When I rounded the corner for the Lewis Road I was assailed from the front and within a couple of minutes the front of the pants was wringing. What could a man do but put the head down and battle on and pretend that he was lying on the beach on a sunny day in Ballybunion. Drenched or not, I was determined to procure a seat in the stand. I duly spotted one, occupied by a satchel, and was about to sit down when the owner of the said satchel said he was keeping the seat for this friend. I handed him his satchel told him if he was so concerned about his friend he could vacate his seat own seat and give it to him. Never display concern for a friend in the hope of winning favour from an old guy who had more or less to swim to his seat.
We lost the throw in as we did the second one. A harbinger of our midfield aerial submission all through the game. Those opening phases were tedious and wearisome as Donegal , who have a patent on this endless keep ball, indulged in their seemingly congenital approach to football- pass the parcel. It was infuriating to watch Kerry retreat in the face of this abomination. rather than coming out and taking them man for man. Gradually we did and build up a handsome half time lead of seven points. This was not insurmountable but was likely to be enough in view of the good play of our backs and the ineptitude of Donegal. That confidence at half time was slightly tempered by the fact that our midfield was being submerged and continued to do so for the bulk of the game.
In that opening half and indeed all through , Tadgh Morley was a dominant figure, highlighted by a flying interception when Donegal, for once, seemed to have an overlap. I don't think I have seen Tadgh play with such authority in any Kerry game. Further back, Dan O'Donoghue continued with his venomous, cheeky form of the previous games. It is not to say that the other backs were not competent. They were but the laborious Donegal tactics did not over stretch them. As the half developed the Kerry forwards got the into the swing of things and lofted over a few beauties from hand and ground. Sean O'Shea was immaculate in every aspect of play- kicking from hand and ground, displaying aggression and leadership. Paul kicked one over from near the sideline, leaving two men sprawling in his wake. He struck another impossible one which hit the upright and , as far as I can recall, Killian gathered and struck over. Killian kicked another one as did Paudi Clifford. To compound matters, the imposter Dan O'Donoghue roamed up and kicked over one as good as any that went before. Kicking long range points is the way to break the back of the opposition's insipid tactics.
The second half was not too old when it became apparent that Donegal were not going to do too much damage. Our backs as a unit were largely bullet proof in spite of Donegal's dominance at midfield. To make matters worse for Donegal, the golden boy came on and did a bit of damage! Scored 1-1 and struck another against the crossbar. People tell me his goal was fortuitous. Not at all. I would describe it as divine intervention! Tony Brosnan also came on and assiduously set up a point for Sean O'Shea.
Adrian Spillane seemed to get a blow of the ball in the face in the early stages and this seemed to stun him for a while as he seemed to wander aimlessly about for a while. For example he went down to tie a lace and took an inordinate amount of time to complete the task. He went off for a while, ? blood injury, and came back on rejuvenated. He horsed into any thing that moved and somethings that did not move . He turned over a few which looked like lost causes before eventually being replaced by an extremely effective Stephen O'Brien. I suspect an exhausted Adrian slept well last night.
As I have already hinted, the most disquieting aspect of our game was the poor form of our midfielders, both of whom were taking on water all through the game. This manifested itself especially for a period in the second half of the second half when Donegal enjoyed a period of supremacy as a result. We were being obliterated in the air and on the ground. This uncertain period was exacerbated by Shane Murphy's kicks out. He directed a sequence of them to the same spot near the sideline in front of the stand. We could not claim any of them. Eventually, he did change direction, of his own volition or from command via management? His cause was not helped by the naivety of Diarmuid and Jack. Why in the name of goodness did they not split and thereby give Shane two targets. Not a good day at the office for those two boys.
Interestingly, Tom O'Sullivan seemed to take up Ryan McHugh. I am not sure who was marking who but they seemed to cancel each other out. Advantage Kerry, because Ryan tends to be a fulcrum for a lot Donegal attacks.
By the end of the match , the rain had largely disappeared. I happily discarded the rain soaked clothes into the boot and sank into the luxury of the car. In no time, I got entry into the stream of traffic , the heating came on, as did the radio and headed for home with victory secured. Ah, the simple things in life.
I was in the door only a short time when I had an influx of children and grandchildren. All had come to welcome home the hero. I was given the honour of cuddling the latest recruit to the grandchildren galaxy. Four/five months old. An adorable urchin. Another impish grandchild took it upon herself to try and entertain him. Not interested. He was interested only in surveying the room, processing, in wonder, the assorted faces, sights and sounds. Occasionally, he glanced up at me ,as much as to say, haven't I seen you around before. And then that smile, that smilecalculated to melt the coldest of cold hearts. I responded, it's the simple things in life, little man. He responded, I know grandpa. For you it's Kerry football. For me it's sleep. He nodded off.
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Post by MeathExile on Feb 21, 2022 16:50:22 GMT
Job well done yesterday......I wasnt able to make it down and was thankful enough when I saw the conditions.
Donegal must be the most boring team ever to play football - if I was from Donegal I would seriously consider moving across the county border while they are playing this type of football. They remind me of Kildare several years ago - non-stop hand-passing and going nowhere.
The second half in particular was beyond belief. The goalie actually had a kick-out that was caught by none other than our goalie - such was the length he was able to get into it with the aid of the wind. And yet they persisted with the short kick-outs and possession football. All they needed to do was move one of their big midfielders to full/centre forward and aim the kick-outs to him.
From our perspective, I wouldnt be getting carried away with the result. Donegal are brutal, and we drew with Kildare who looked brutal (and lost) yesterday against half a Tyrone team.
I can understand why Jack is playing as strong a team as possible, but he needs to try out a few more lads in the remaining games. Defence in particular has seen little experimentation. I fear that we end up in Croker in June/July throwing a newbie into the lions den when our defence needs an improvement. Monaghan away is the ideal place to try this as they seem to be one of the weaker teams this year. All of the main contenders for championship are trying out new lads (Dubs with no success so far), but at least they are seeing what their options are/are not for later on
Some posters above are lauding the half-back line. Delighted for Morley as I thought he was treated terribly last year. But I still fear for us with all 3 of TomOS, Paul M, and Brian in the back 6. I think 2 of those at most can play in order to maintain a more physical presence. Tom is a definite starter, so its one of the other 2. However, I would prefer to see Mike B and Gavin W at 5 & 7. Hold Paul and Brian to come on in the second half when things open up. I wouldnt rule Paul out to come on at wing forward - he has the shooting boots.
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Post by fitz on Feb 21, 2022 16:58:01 GMT
If Seanie had stuck his two goal chances, if DC his, we'd be out of sight BUT also if Ryan McHugh hadn't made a pigs trousers from intercept Jack Savage line ball, gap down to 3, still a few mins to play- mindset would have changed no doubt about it. That would have been a big test then. It was a big moment. A penny for Shane Ryan's thoughts then for the follow up kickout...
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Post by jackiel on Feb 21, 2022 17:19:19 GMT
Fantastic stuff as always Veteran.
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Post by Mickmack on Feb 21, 2022 18:52:12 GMT
Fantastic stuff as always Veteran. Veteran, you can't let us hanging like this. What happened when satchel man arrived?
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Post by Ballyfireside on Feb 21, 2022 18:56:38 GMT
They said the weather conditions at the Dublin match could not be replicated for the Donegal match. I think they got it wrong. I parked on the Cork bypass and as I muddled along the back of the pants and shoes were saturated. When I rounded the corner for the Lewis Road I was assailed from the front and within a couple of minutes the front of the pants was wringing. What could a man do but put the head down and battle on and pretend that he was lying on the beach on a sunny day in Ballybunion. Drenched or not, I was determined to procure a seat in the stand. I duly spotted one, occupied by a satchel, and was about to sit down when the owner of the said satchel said he was keeping the seat for this friend. I handed him his satchel told him if he was so concerned about his friend he could vacate his seat own seat and give it to him. Never display concern for a friend in the hope of winning favour from an old guy who had more or less to swim to his seat. We lost the throw in as we did the second one. A harbinger of our midfield aerial submission all through the game. Those opening phases were tedious and wearisome as Donegal , who have a patent on this endless keep ball, indulged in their seemingly congenital approach to football- pass the parcel. It was infuriating to watch Kerry retreat in the face of this abomination. rather than coming out and taking them man for man. Gradually we did and build up a handsome half time lead of seven points. This was not insurmountable but was likely to be enough in view of the good play of our backs and the ineptitude of Donegal. That confidence at half time was slightly tempered by the fact that our midfield was being submerged and continued to do so for the bulk of the game. In that opening half and indeed all through , Tadgh Morley was a dominant figure, highlighted by a flying interception when Donegal, for once, seemed to have an overlap. I don't think I have seen Tadgh play with such authority in any Kerry game. Further back, Dan O'Donoghue continued with his venomous, cheeky form of the previous games. It is not to say that the other backs were not competent. They were but the laborious Donegal tactics did not over stretch them. As the half developed the Kerry forwards got the into the swing of things and lofted over a few beauties from hand and ground. Sean O'Shea was immaculate in every aspect of play- kicking from hand and ground, displaying aggression and leadership. Paul kicked one over from near the sideline, leaving two men sprawling in his wake. He struck another impossible one which hit the upright and , as far as I can recall, Killian gathered and struck over. Killian kicked another one as did Paudi Clifford. To compound matters, the imposter Dan O'Donoghue roamed up and kicked over one as good as any that went before. Kicking long range points is the way to break the back of the opposition's insipid tactics. The second half was not too old when it became apparent that Donegal were not going to do too much damage. Our backs as a unit were largely bullet proof in spite of Donegal's dominance at midfield. To make matters worse for Donegal, the golden boy came on and did a bit of damage! Scored 1-1 and struck another against the crossbar. People tell me his goal was fortuitous. Not at all. I would describe it as divine intervention! Tony Brosnan also came on and assiduously set up a point for Sean O'Shea. Adrian Spillane seemed to get a blow of the ball in the face in the early stages and this seemed to stun him for a while as he seemed to wander aimlessly about for a while. For example he went down to tie a lace and took an inordinate amount of time to complete the task. He went off for a while, ? blood injury, and came back on rejuvenated. He horsed into any thing that moved and somethings that did not move . He turned over a few which looked like lost causes before eventually being replaced by an extremely effective Stephen O'Brien. I suspect an exhausted Adrian slept well last night. As I have already hinted, the most disquieting aspect of our game was the poor form of our midfielders, both of whom were taking on water all through the game. This manifested itself especially for a period in the second half of the second half when Donegal enjoyed a period of supremacy as a result. We were being obliterated in the air and on the ground. This uncertain period was exacerbated by Shane Murphy's kicks out. He directed a sequence of them to the same spot near the sideline in front of the stand. We could not claim any of them. Eventually, he did change direction, of his own volition or from command via management? His cause was not helped by the naivety of Diarmuid and Jack. Why in the name of goodness did they not split and thereby give Shane two targets. Not a good day at the office for those two boys. Interestingly, Tom O'Sullivan seemed to take up Ryan McHugh. I am not sure who was marking who but they seemed to cancel each other out. Advantage Kerry, because Ryan tends to be a fulcrum for a lot Donegal attacks. By the end of the match , the rain had largely disappeared. I happily discarded the rain soaked clothes into the boot and sank into the luxury of the car. In no time, I got entry into the stream of traffic , the heating came on, as did the radio and headed for home with victory secured. Ah, the simple things in life. I was in the door only a short time when I had an influx of children and grandchildren. All had come to welcome home the hero. I was given the honour of cuddling the latest recruit to the grandchildren galaxy. Four/five months old. An adorable urchin. Another impish grandchild took it upon herself to try and entertain him. Not interested. He was interested only in surveying the room, processing, in wonder, the assorted faces, sights and sounds. Occasionally, he glanced up at me ,as much as to say, haven't I seen you around before. And then that smile, that smilecalculated to melt the coldest of cold hearts. I responded, it's the simple things in life, little man. He responded, I know grandpa. For you it's Kerry football. For me it's sleep. He nodded off. Last things first, great to see future generations of reporters coming through and the future of the profession is in safe hands - being the grandchildren will begrudgers be consoled thinking genius has skipped a generation, and which isn't unheard of? Anyway you uncap the wart here, the 'Cluxton' restart - the transmitter and would-be/should-be receivers are malfunctioning, and defining madness by repeating the mistake, and what with Jacko on a tight schedule? From this my worry is that not alone have we not learned from Clux over 10 years, and indeed Beggan and Morgan, and indeed sundry other smart latchicos; I even seen it in Club hurling here in Donegal - we are not leading the way in Gaelic football methodology, we are not anticipating how the game is evolving, and so we risk getting there 'nearly' on time, nearly first! We wrote the bloody book on how to play football and are we are not genetically disposed to be the best, at least up there with them as opposed to being in the chasing pack? Well maybe aspects of that are debateable but remember Dwyer thinking outside the box, developing the hand-pass that won a few Sams for us, now we aren't even learning from others. Mickey Harte thought outside the box as did McGuinness, and regardless of opinions on the style of play, it worked and they won, beating us purists. This to me will largely determine where Sam sits down for his Christmas dinner. 'Thought leadership' they call it.
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Post by horsebox77 on Feb 21, 2022 19:07:49 GMT
Fantastic stuff as always Veteran. Veteran, you can't let us hanging like this. What happened when satchel man arrived? 😁 the same question crossed my mind
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Post by southward on Feb 21, 2022 19:13:17 GMT
Well maybe aspects of that are debateable but remember Dwyer thinking outside the box, developing the hand-pass that won a few Sams for us, now we aren't even learning from others. Mickey Harte thought outside the box as did McGuinness, and regardless of opinions on the style of play, it worked and they won, beating us purists. This to me will largely determine where Sam sits down for his Christmas dinner. 'Thought leadership' they call it. A Kerry manager who attempted to play like McGuinness & co would be booed off the pitch, then run out of the county. And rightly so.
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Post by Mickmack on Feb 21, 2022 21:21:43 GMT
Pat Spillane made a very good point on the sunday night programme.
He said Kerry were turned over 30 times v Tyrone last year and this year so far Kerry 'are playing it around' to probe openings and not taking it into contact and losing the ball.
I think is a huge thing.
Maybe things will change a bit with White and Moran back as they tend to carry it into the tackle but overall i think it was a point well made by Pat S.
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Post by The16thMan on Feb 21, 2022 21:35:49 GMT
Pat Spillane made a very good point on the sunday night programme. He said Kerry were turned over 30 times v Tyrone last year and this year so far Kerry 'are playing it around' to probe openings and not taking it into contact and losing the ball. I think is a huge thing. Maybe things will change a bit with White and Moran back as they tend to carry it into the tackle but overall i think it was a point well made by Pat S. We're not just playing it about, We're kicking the ball into our forwards quick and not carrying the ball into contact like we did against Tyrone. As Jack said "We're a kicking team", we tried this ball carrying game and it hasn't worked. When we kick the ball into the forwards quickly and accurately not many teams can keep us out, we tend to go on phases like we did in the 2nd quarters vs Dublin and Donegal when we get it right.
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Post by horsebox77 on Feb 21, 2022 22:01:10 GMT
We have blitz teams in the 2nd quarterin recent games, eventually we will extent that will evolve to two stints to 'blitz' per game, key and tailored plays like this can kill off games, Dublin at their peak used to go on one or two such phases per game, go for the juggler and knock in 2-03 or so and kill off a game in ten minute spells.
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Post by Ballyfireside on Feb 22, 2022 5:05:14 GMT
Well maybe aspects of that are debateable but remember Dwyer thinking outside the box, developing the hand-pass that won a few Sams for us, now we aren't even learning from others. Mickey Harte thought outside the box as did McGuinness, and regardless of opinions on the style of play, it worked and they won, beating us purists. This to me will largely determine where Sam sits down for his Christmas dinner. 'Thought leadership' they call it. A Kerry manager who attempted to play like McGuinness & co would be booed off the pitch, then run out of the county. And rightly so. Well maybe so but firstly we need to be able to defend against it and placed kicks is key and as one John O'Keeffe pointed this out 2 days after the 2003 AI final. Secondly, if and when necessary, we need to keep possession until the path is clear - loveliness won't cut it. Still this is all old hat, it is the next tactic we need to anticipate, perfect and spring it on as a wee surprise of a day.
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Post by buck02 on Feb 22, 2022 10:28:39 GMT
Pat Spillane made a very good point on the sunday night programme. He said Kerry were turned over 30 times v Tyrone last year and this year so far Kerry 'are playing it around' to probe openings and not taking it into contact and losing the ball. I think is a huge thing. Maybe things will change a bit with White and Moran back as they tend to carry it into the tackle but overall i think it was a point well made by Pat S. 3 short weeks ago following a 2nd half in Newbridge that was blighted by Kerry passing over and back and getting disposed, tuned over whatever you want to call it leading to scores at the other end, Pat went ballistic on TV that night. This place was awash with people giving out about the way the team played. Some people - Pat especially - have very short memories.
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