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Post by mg72 on Feb 20, 2022 12:45:28 GMT
There is a bit of water gathering near the sideline line between the two 45s, other than that the pitch looks in good nick, let's see what it's like when the teams arrive out, there is a gale blowing into the crokes end. It looks bad along the stand sideline alright. Hopefully the pitch will hold up alright. It could be a game of two halves again.. |
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Post by Ballyfireside on Feb 20, 2022 12:52:09 GMT
There is a bit of water gathering near the sideline line between the two 45s, other than that the pitch looks in good nick, let's see what it's like when the teams arrive out, there is a gale blowing into the crokes end. It looks bad along the stand sideline alright. Hopefully the pitch will hold up alright. It could be a game of two halves again.. Could you be sure it won't be postponed? Gale just rose again here and if it was here it could be postponed, though I'm no expert on things airspace. |
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Post by Mickmack on Feb 20, 2022 13:44:24 GMT
With all due respect, that's not the point i am making the point i am making is about how Jack is managing 2022.....in the light of the anti-Jack sentiment ....he has 2 years ....but in reality....1 year. If what you are saying is right then the pressure is too much, just like it would be bad for players and Jacko spoke about this lately. Still I'd like to think the majority would support him in doing the right thing and if Sam is probably the key objective then blooding laddos is a good idea, and teams will do that once they move out of the relegation zone. Reading Marty Morrisey's book, he feels that the blocking of communications is detrimental to what is a community sport - is it all gone too serious? These guys are our own flesh and blood yet we don't know what is going on. We own the bloody GAA, I mean it isn't as if we are Oil Sheiks, in fact they probably only want to know the value of their investment. BTW Marty is also against paywalls and which I also think is a self-inflicted curse on ourselves, the GAA is a unique sport globally and we need to respect ourselves as a community. It is a bit like the privilege of being a Kerryman or indeed from any county, it comes with enormous responsibility. Chatting with a Donegaller lately we waz sayin how other countries don't have anything even near what we have in terms of the GAA - now maybe the exception is poor countries and where they still play ball on the road like some of us may have - I have seen this abroad and it is a real reminder, children mightn't have the price of a sweet but they can play sport for free and call in and talk to their hero neighbour, I bet no closed-door-training, etc - is it worse we are progressing? Bring back the good old days when Mickey Sheehy and the late Paddy Prendergast used to call to my parents' shop at Lisselton Cross and spend the day chattin with the locals. Mind you the Dublin team used to call during Listowel races and the crack was mighty, at least we were told something, might have been a load of auld nonsense but what we didn't know didn't worry us, now we know nothing and that is worrying, the fun is going out of it. Marty asked Rob Hennelly about " Mayos two main rivals Kerry and Dublin" last night.... as if Tyrone didnt matter....Sean Cavanagh looked stunned. Poor ould Marty comes out with some guff. |
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Post by Hicser on Feb 20, 2022 14:27:24 GMT
7 point lead , I’m not sure it’s enough for the second half,
Not a great game but conditions are poor,
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Post by taggert on Feb 20, 2022 14:28:52 GMT
Donegal obviously feeling that they can turn around a 6 or 7 point deficit at HT with the aid of the breeze. They made no attempt to go forward for the entire 2nd quarter.
They will press Kerry very high in the 2nd half.
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Post by Mickmack on Feb 20, 2022 14:33:55 GMT
Kerry will need to avoid conceding goals in the second half.
Good test of the mettle now.
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Post by horsebox77 on Feb 20, 2022 14:35:24 GMT
We really have to keep our goal in tact, for us to have any chance we have to restrict any three pointer.
God though, it's a hard watch and I'm rattling.
Impressed with Adrain in first half, two of his turnovers lead to points by Paudie and Killian. His club mate at Centre Back is having a great game off the ball, he is seriously covering don't know is the camera picking it up or not.
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Post by kerryexile on Feb 20, 2022 14:36:45 GMT
Aodán Mac Gearailt said before the game that 6 or 7 points would be needed. He said before half time that the wind had abated a little. I think using horses for courses we can see this one out.
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Post by peanuts on Feb 20, 2022 15:26:42 GMT
Good win but Donegal were very poor. Kerry backs never under any real pressure. Kick outs were the biggest concern. Seanie was immense.
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Post by fitz on Feb 20, 2022 15:31:59 GMT
Good win but Donegal were very poor. Kerry backs never under any real pressure. Kick outs were the biggest concern. Seanie was immense. Think Kerry made Donegal look poor, brilliant second half performance in those conditions. |
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Post by royalkerryfan on Feb 20, 2022 15:35:55 GMT
How good a find is Dan O'Donoghue ??
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Post by clubman on Feb 20, 2022 15:35:58 GMT
God that was a tough watch, Donegal were playing with a gale and still went backwards time after time. McBearty probably one of their most accurate players and he behind in the full back line passing around with the keeper.
Kerry did the job as professionaly as you could expect given the weather.
I thought DC could have been left off today
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Post by Whosinmidfield on Feb 20, 2022 15:41:53 GMT
How good a find is Dan O'Donoghue ?? Very good although it was obvious he should have been brought in a a few years ago, definitely in 2020 anyway. I couldn’t understand at the time why PK was overlooking him. That was a great point he kicked, showed good confidence. He’s a no nonsense back with a tough edge which is exactly what we need. The number 2 jersey is his to lose. |
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Post by taggert on Feb 20, 2022 16:07:36 GMT
Very good workrate, desire and drive in miserable conditions. Special mention to Dan, Morley and Seanie.
Thought Dara Moynihan and Tom Sull put in big efforts too and Tony looked lively when he came on.
Donegal poor - expected a 2nd half onslaught but never materialised.
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Post by mike70 on Feb 20, 2022 16:27:11 GMT
How good a find is Dan O'Donoghue ?? after a very solid campaign so far, I think he has the jersey for now, well done to him. |
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Post by Ballyfireside on Feb 20, 2022 16:27:27 GMT
If what you are saying is right then the pressure is too much, just like it would be bad for players and Jacko spoke about this lately. Still I'd like to think the majority would support him in doing the right thing and if Sam is probably the key objective then blooding laddos is a good idea, and teams will do that once they move out of the relegation zone. Reading Marty Morrisey's book, he feels that the blocking of communications is detrimental to what is a community sport - is it all gone too serious? These guys are our own flesh and blood yet we don't know what is going on. We own the bloody GAA, I mean it isn't as if we are Oil Sheiks, in fact they probably only want to know the value of their investment. BTW Marty is also against paywalls and which I also think is a self-inflicted curse on ourselves, the GAA is a unique sport globally and we need to respect ourselves as a community. It is a bit like the privilege of being a Kerryman or indeed from any county, it comes with enormous responsibility. Chatting with a Donegaller lately we waz sayin how other countries don't have anything even near what we have in terms of the GAA - now maybe the exception is poor countries and where they still play ball on the road like some of us may have - I have seen this abroad and it is a real reminder, children mightn't have the price of a sweet but they can play sport for free and call in and talk to their hero neighbour, I bet no closed-door-training, etc - is it worse we are progressing? Bring back the good old days when Mickey Sheehy and the late Paddy Prendergast used to call to my parents' shop at Lisselton Cross and spend the day chattin with the locals. Mind you the Dublin team used to call during Listowel races and the crack was mighty, at least we were told something, might have been a load of auld nonsense but what we didn't know didn't worry us, now we know nothing and that is worrying, the fun is going out of it. Marty asked Rob Hennelly about " Mayos two main rivals Kerry and Dublin" last night.... as if Tyrone didnt matter....Sean Cavanagh looked stunned. Poor ould Marty comes out with some guff. While I agree, remember that while Mayo struggled with us, we likewise struggled vs Tyrone who in turn couldn't handle Mayo - funny auld world! |
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Post by onlykerry on Feb 20, 2022 16:36:05 GMT
Donegal never tried to win this game - they looked like a rudderless team with no idea of how to play they game. The first half looked like they were intent on avoiding giving up as many scores as possible (afraid of the wind) - they played keep ball and rarely attempted to cross into the Kerry half. Donegal keeper delayed every kickout using every trick in the book and Deegan looked on without ever urging him on. Its possible he had the most possessions of any Donegal player such was the amount of back passes to him.
I fully expected them to attack us in the second half but the malaise of the first half continued even when they had the wind. We got a break with our goal but left two better opportunities behind us. We had good performances from several players with SOS really showing his class. Despite the good win our midfield is a concern as we lost a lot of kick outs, particularly in the second half. Very happy that Kerry tried to play football in the second half and did not just go out to defend the lead.
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Post by givehimaball on Feb 20, 2022 16:57:52 GMT
Donegal very much looked like a side who had already 3 points who knew they still had 3 home games to come.
Between that and Murphy being out, there was a real vibe of a side who weren't all that bothered about the result.
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Post by givehimaball on Feb 20, 2022 17:04:13 GMT
Despite the good win our midfield is a concern as we lost a lot of kick outs, particularly in the second half. Ryan has to take a serious amount of blame here - hoofing it out to the same spot 5/6 times in a row making it a complete lottery was clueless stuff. His "hanging" style of kickout makes it easier for the opposing side to attack the kickout especially when he is kicking it out to the same side of the pitch 6 times in a row. I'd say he'll be doing well to start another game for Kerry this year. |
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Post by carthalawn on Feb 20, 2022 17:15:19 GMT
Another building block under JoC. That’s three matches in poor conditions - looking fwd to seeing this team on a firm pitch with a dry ball.
Donegal were poor - zero ambition. We were tidy at the back again today - playing more as unit - Morley at 6 is key.
Have to say Seanie is a colossus - has everything, work-rate, attitude, leadership and skill. Unquestionably the best in the country.
Hopefully JoC uses the next few games to get game time into some of the other lads.
No goal conceded in 2022…..
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Post by onlykerry on Feb 20, 2022 17:17:43 GMT
Despite the good win our midfield is a concern as we lost a lot of kick outs, particularly in the second half. Ryan has to take a serious amount of blame here - hoofing it out to the same spot 5/6 times in a row making it a complete lottery was clueless stuff. His "hanging" style of kickout makes it easier for the opposing side to attack the kickout especially when he is kicking it out to the same side of the pitch 6 times in a row. I'd say he'll be doing well to start another game for Kerry this year. He had few options - Donegal were covering the short kick out and Kerry loaded their big men into the spot under the stand he was kicking into. Our big men were out jumped time after time. Where would you suggest he kick it ? He looked to be following instructions to me and we were cleaned out in the air. |
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Post by southward on Feb 20, 2022 17:33:17 GMT
Ryan has to take a serious amount of blame here - hoofing it out to the same spot 5/6 times in a row making it a complete lottery was clueless stuff. His "hanging" style of kickout makes it easier for the opposing side to attack the kickout especially when he is kicking it out to the same side of the pitch 6 times in a row. I'd say he'll be doing well to start another game for Kerry this year. He had few options - Donegal were covering the short kick out and Kerry loaded their big men into the spot under the stand he was kicking into. Our big men were out jumped time after time. Where would you suggest he kick it ? He looked to be following instructions to me and we were cleaned out in the air. On that score, I thought it was a mistake to take Adrian off. Too early at any rate. He had been winning loads of ball and Donegal started getting on top of our kickouts as soon as he departed. |
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Post by mike70 on Feb 20, 2022 17:38:23 GMT
He had few options - Donegal were covering the short kick out and Kerry loaded their big men into the spot under the stand he was kicking into. Our big men were out jumped time after time. Where would you suggest he kick it ? He looked to be following instructions to me and we were cleaned out in the air. On that score, I thought it was a mistake to take Adrian off. Too early at any rate. He had been winning loads of ball and Donegal started getting on top of our kickouts as soon as he departed. I think it was more to do with the fact that Donegal had made 3 changes, so fresh energy needed to be counteracted , he played well none the less. |
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Post by clarinman on Feb 20, 2022 17:41:33 GMT
Ryan has to take a serious amount of blame here - hoofing it out to the same spot 5/6 times in a row making it a complete lottery was clueless stuff. His "hanging" style of kickout makes it easier for the opposing side to attack the kickout especially when he is kicking it out to the same side of the pitch 6 times in a row. I'd say he'll be doing well to start another game for Kerry this year. He had few options - Donegal were covering the short kick out and Kerry loaded their big men into the spot under the stand he was kicking into. Our big men were out jumped time after time. Where would you suggest he kick it ? He looked to be following instructions to me and we were cleaned out in the air. Agree totally. I could not understand why Barry and diarmuid did not split for the kickouts. They were our only 2 options to go long with Adrian gone off and no one looking for the short kickout. We were also cleaned out in midfield in the second half in Newbridge and Murphy was in goal that day. |
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Post by dano on Feb 20, 2022 18:25:30 GMT
Desperate day for a game,2 points, no injuries and no red cards. All in All a good day. Can't wait to see how they fare out v Monaghan. I consider that, being away, to be more of a test.
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Post by Ballyfireside on Feb 20, 2022 18:55:30 GMT
Assuming much of this feedback is from those who attended the game, the overall view is positive.
Conditions atrocious and that we dealt with them much better makes a big statement.
Part of me feels for the long journey home for Donegal, maybe with the treacherous weather up here they will stop off and have a treat. The entire sky is full of white weather and grey clouds right now so safe travelling to all.
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Post by Mickmack on Feb 20, 2022 19:05:02 GMT
Assuming much of this feedback if from those who attended the game, the overall view is positive. Conditions atrocious and that we dealt with them much better makes a big statement. Part of me feels for the long journey home for Donegal, maybe with the treacherous weather up here they will stop off and have a treat. The entire sky is full of white weather and grey clouds right now so sage travelling to all. Jason was like a Fordson Major opening a furrow up through the centre at the end....i was hoping he would score. |
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Post by Ballyfireside on Feb 20, 2022 19:23:13 GMT
Assuming much of this feedback if from those who attended the game, the overall view is positive. Conditions atrocious and that we dealt with them much better makes a big statement. Part of me feels for the long journey home for Donegal, maybe with the treacherous weather up here they will stop off and have a treat. The entire sky is full of white weather and grey clouds right now so sage travelling to all. Jason was like a Fordson Major opening a furrow up through the centre at the end....i was hoping he would score. That good? Hasn't he pointed previously and he looked positively different in a few glimpses of the camera, a good sign of a FB that he can cope with such harsh conditions, I suppose the speed helped, ta for the feedback, take care everybody, just got a skid here and with a full bladder of mineral water - yes, nearly a second accident of the leaking type variety, weather here frightening, a night for an buidéal uisce beatha cois tine and a Ballythefireside poem of course, ah a win for An Contae Chiarraí will suffice. |
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Post by paudief on Feb 20, 2022 19:31:07 GMT
Good all-round performance. Sean O'Shea kicked some great points in the first-half. I invoked the phrase 'Maurice Fitzgerald-like', which I don't use very often.
I thought Adrian Spillane was excellent in the middle, scrapping for that loose ball. And while they were overall not great on the kickouts, the whole team fought well for loose balls, and outdid Donegal here.
On that score, I thought it was a mistake to take Adrian off. Too early at any rate. He had been winning loads of ball and Donegal started getting on top of our kickouts as soon as he departed.
Yes, things noticeably went downhill in midfield when he went off. Still though I'm encouraged that the team has been strengthened at this position for the summer, between himself and Diarmuid O'Connor.
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Post by ciarraimick on Feb 20, 2022 20:04:36 GMT
Job done and 5 points on the board. Brutal weather so it's was a hard game to judge. I was very happy with all the backs and yes Dan has the Jersey to lose now. Morley was excellent and thriving back in CB position. Midfield struggled today but I would nt worry as Donegal very big in that area. I would nt blame Ryan on the kickouts either. He had no option really and weather disturbed the kickouts too. Seanie was just brilliant and Killian kicked 2 great scores. Now I'm happy with our position and one more win or draw and we safe. Just a few little things though. One was I noticed a few times in the first half when Seanie was taking a free none of our forwards were waiting in around the box. For me a good corner forward should wait as every so often a ball comes back off the post. It happened once today. Dara covered alot of ground today but sometimes his vision let's him down. Adrian is a super tackler. With ten or 15 mins to go a wise man sitting behind me in the stand said this is our highest score in the 2nd half of the league yet and we had only scored a goal and point. I was thinking this is going to be the 3rd game in a row we lost the 2nd half (although weather bad in all 3)but fair play to the team for finishing strong. I'm happy enough at mó but a bit cautious too. There is still room for improvement but think we on right track. Today's game was made for David Moran with his high fielding but I'm not blaming midfield today because kickouts aside both Diarmuid and Jack put in good shifts.
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