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Post by skybluezone on Feb 6, 2022 1:10:15 GMT
Greetings from the edge of the earth, Possibly the bleakest weather I’ve ever attended a match in. We won and we won comfortably, Dublin were very poor but we beat them without hitting top gear ourselves. I thought Barry did very well along with our superb number 11 and absolutely majestic number 14. Paudi’s black card looked, from where I was, a terrible decision and Niall Scully seems to have taken the mantle from Philly of no matter where I am on the pitch, no matter who is winning or what’s going on - I’ll start a pointless row. He was septic to watch off the ball. Good enough for them, only disappointment was that we didn’t win by more. Give them another €20 million Do you know Scully is so good at starting rows that he got a black card for an incident that he was 40 yards from.
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Post by skybluezone on Feb 6, 2022 1:13:06 GMT
The defence were excellent tonight , they worked there socks off, in both directions. We were wide open at times in the early stages of the first half until such time as we got on top completely at midfield in the 2nd quarter- a few scary moments then but won the game with outstanding displays up front from the Clifford’s, Seanie & Dara Moynihan - Paudie & David were outstanding all through. The 2nd half was about containment especially down to 14 for two periods ; quite how the ref penalised Paudie Clifford when he put David through was most baffling adding insult to injury when issuing a black card. Ciarán Kilkenny could have seen red for his hit on Seanie O’Shea as Dublin lost their composure as they fell to their 2nd league defeat. Kilkenny could have seen red. Are you serious? Seanie should be up for best actor. Watch it again.
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Post by mossie on Feb 6, 2022 1:14:41 GMT
We were wide open at times in the early stages of the first half until such time as we got on top completely at midfield in the 2nd quarter- a few scary moments then but won the game with outstanding displays up front from the Clifford’s, Seanie & Dara Moynihan - Paudie & David were outstanding all through. The 2nd half was about containment especially down to 14 for two periods ; quite how the ref penalised Paudie Clifford when he put David through was most baffling adding insult to injury when issuing a black card. Ciarán Kilkenny could have seen red for his hit on Seanie O’Shea as Dublin lost their composure as they fell to their 2nd league defeat. Kilkenny could have seen red. Are you serious? Seanie should be up for best actor. Watch it again. I agree, that was hardly a yellow card even for Kilkenny
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Post by skybluezone on Feb 6, 2022 1:15:02 GMT
Watching on TV, Lane got nearly every call right. People call for consistency and all the black cards were for checks. Paudies was the harshest because he had momentum but it suited him to collide after the offload but Lane was consistent throughout. His only major mistake was giving the black to Scully who was the wrong man[/quote Lane had his back to play for the Dublin goal incident. The umpires were so sure they saw what happened that they told the ref it was Scully who happened to be 40 yards away. But Lane had a great game!
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Post by skybluezone on Feb 6, 2022 1:19:38 GMT
So a goal can be disallowed because the team that scored it committed a foul in the buildup! Even though the ref didnt see it appears and had to be told about it by the officials. I know they can do it in rugby but i have never seen it happen in a GAA match. Linesmen shall bring to the attention of the Referee, during a break in play, any instances of foul play, in particular rough or dangerous play, striking, hitting, or kicking, or unauthorised incursions onto the field of play or other infraction of Rule by a team official, which have not been noticed by the Referee. They may also, if requested by the Referee, assist in determining the validity of a score. The crowd brought Lanes attention to it. The umpires hadn't a clue. The outcome was a black card to a player standing 40byards away. That's how clued in the umpires were.
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Post by skybluezone on Feb 6, 2022 1:30:27 GMT
Kerry miles the better team. Congrats, never in doubt after the 1st black card. I worry for us, no obvious pattern of play in place. Cannot see the logic of throwing 12 or 14 kids into the fray as Dessie has done. He keeps justifying it by saying its valuable experience, it's not. Pick 5/6 kids and stick with them. Not 14 of them! Asking to be hammered. Young lads need a proper structure to step in to, but if you pmay to many of them you lose that, not to mention the winning habit. Dessie won an AI on the back of a Gavin team, he has it all to prove in my opinion.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 6, 2022 1:41:43 GMT
Don't get too excited 😂
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Post by Moderator on Feb 6, 2022 2:56:54 GMT
The hometown poll (vast majority of members here are Kerry fans) had 23 going for a Kerry win and 21 saying they wouldn't.
So a fair few of us have no idea what we are talking about.
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Post by Ballyfireside on Feb 6, 2022 3:09:25 GMT
The hometown poll (vast majority of members here are Kerry fans) had 23 going for a Kerry win and 21 saying they wouldn't. So a fair few of us have no idea what we are talking about. 'Moderator' - holy water makes a baby cry?
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Post by Ballyfireside on Feb 6, 2022 3:22:42 GMT
In terms of a breakdown of how each player performed: Shane Murphy: Big questions still remain after that ‘goal’. Feel he’s a bit slow on kick outs. Good save and nice left legged kick outs in 2nd half. DO’D: Very solid performance, showed well and has the strength for the wet conditions Foley: Few soft frees but grew into the game and feel he dealt with everything else well TO’S: Cruising out there. Could have ended up with 2 goals himself from corner back Murphy: Very welcome return to form. In control and didn’t struggle physically Morley: Very solid, stays back mostly which is what Kerry need. Only time we were caught was off a kick out press Begley: Great display. Gave the cutting when others were lateral. Best ball carrier in team with White. If he can learn to clip over points when he tears through he’ll be one of the best around. DO’C: Rolls Royce. Everything seems to come so easy to him, passing, kicking points, fielding, gliding past players Barry: Gave a good physical edge. Would have had big concerns after the Tyrone game but this was a good start Spillane: Fought for everything. Thought he was in danger of missing out on the panel this year but his battling has proven to be a important cog in the team SO’S: Back where we belongs. Curl kicking a free from 60 yards in first half was a highlight. No love lost between himself and John Small Moynihan: Quiet first 20 but exploded into it. Thought he stayed on a little longer than needed given the nature of his role P.Clifford: Set the tone. Ball winning. Hitting the line at speed. Close control off the charts D.Clifford: Glorious points kicked. His reaction to the penalty miss was most impressive. Needs to avoid the skirmishes Geaney: So intelligent. Could have had a good bit more but would rather that than not having the chances. Links the plat so well and the ability to judge ball winning is crucial Ta for all that from 'hemmigrant' - I haven't (yet) read previous comments so, well re DC skirmishes, he showed leadership - caught two offending hoores who tarfeted him by the throat, then say on his arse to roll 'em back over his head, all without choaking 'em - THE TWO OF 'EM ... WHAT DID THEY DO TO DESERVE MERCY? THAT'S LEADERSHIP DAVY BOY! Feel free to elaborate on Foley - from what little I saw, and in a Donegal pub that was very little, I sensed his team mates are showing more confidence in him - I dreamed he'd emulate Johnno, I'd love a member on here to 'nudge' an opinion from the boss of FBs.. NOW I KNOW I AM OFF POINT A BIT WITH THIS AND IN CASE ANYONE THINKS I AM NASTY, THE THUG WHO DID WHAT HE DID TO JOHNNY SEXTON .. WELL 1" HIGHER AND IT WAS A BUS AT 30Mph INTO THE CHIN .. THEN A YELLOW CARD. COWARD, LOSER, LET'S SEE IF THERE IS A REVIEW FOE WHAT WAS DONE TO A SON OF NORTH KERRY, THAT BUCKO WILL DO WELL TO GO DOWNSTAIRS 'CAUSE A MEET WITH BALLY'S JOHNNY WALSH IS THE ONLY OTHER OPTION. I HOPE GAA NEVER STOOP SO LOW. PS Congrats to our frenemy Dubs and I have no doubt ye were looked after - no losers when spirit is the name of the game!
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Post by thepromisedland on Feb 6, 2022 3:50:12 GMT
It may be only February 2022, and we handed out a hammering at the start of last summer to Tyrone and look what happened to us. Tonight in the spitting rain from the seagulls from the wild Atlantic, it was a welcome win. Getting soaked to the skin at the game, one had a sense of deja- voucher perhaps, as tonight was a carbon copy of our meeting back in March 2019, pre covid with the weather. The crowd was not as large tonight, the Dubs did not travel in such numbers as in 2019 to this fixture. Yes, I'm aware with the hairline cracks in our defense, our odd goalkeeping slowness in the kick outs, eventhough he got marvellous distance into them, particularly in the second half against the wind, I thought the first half performance, the last 25 minutes of the first half, was the best piece of Kerry football I've seen us play since,..... well the League Final v Dublin 2017, five years ago. A very quick five years indeed. We were fitter, faster, more tenacious, we should have won by a lot more, so the scoreline was flattering to the all and sundry in the end. I loved our crisp kick passing, I keep reiterating it, the ball will always travel faster than any human being, our lines were good, our interpositional link ups were marvellous. Our overlaps were sublime in the end of the first half. The second half?.... well it was a damp squib, if you pardon the pun, like a barman cleaning up the vomit from a visiting customer, and waiting for him to leave the premises, it was a question of containment. Yes, Dublin will be much, much better come summer. I do worry for them. There was no communication verbally at all between them, like as if they were just fulfilling the fixture, yes, at times they tried the stealthy third man tackle of blocking our lines, obstructing our runs in zonal pick up spaces. But their finishing was woeful at times. None of their subs even had a kick about during the half time recess. Somethings not right in the Dublin camp I think. I maybe all wrong in my summisation here. But it's nice to get our biggest win over Dublin since the August Bank Holiday 2009!! That's a mighty long time to wait for that.
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Post by Ballyfireside on Feb 6, 2022 3:52:41 GMT
Delighted with the win but as always I have gripes. Black cards. Barry and Paudie blatant Black cards and silly. David. What a majestic player but gets involved in the silly stuff needlessly. One point in 2nd half. Poor. Positives Foley excellent and midfield were super. Dára Moynihan made me eat my words tonight. Not happy with 2nd half but happy with win. Don't fool ourselves either. Dubs missing so many first team players like Fitzsimons Cooper McDaid McCarthy Costello Con. If they had them tonight? Perspective needed. Also sad to see some of our supporters jeering tonight. Anyway 3 points on board so happy but still wary. Can u elaborate a bit on Jason?
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Post by Annascaultilidie on Feb 6, 2022 4:49:20 GMT
Games can really turn on being reduced to 10 minutes due to a black card. Jack Barry gave the ref no option that time. Kerry ate Dublin while the Scully was off. Game over then. There was a time when Dublin would have coped with that set back but they had no answer tonight. They appear to have the makings of a first 15 that will compete with the first 15 of anyone else but their panel is no longer what it was and that was their trump card. I must watch the match tomorrow before making any more comment on the game. The overall impression was that it was quite even till Dublin till Scullys black card. The line ball Kerry got that led to the goal was a Dublin ball. We have suffered enough bad calls v Dublin so we are due a few more of those. It wasn’t a Dublin ball. The commentators were focussing on the Dublin player shepherding it out but he was shepherding out a ball that broke off a Dublin hand FWIW I think the Dublin player shepherding it out touched the ball but the Kerry player kicked the ball again --- just before or on the line I do not know.
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Post by kerrybhoy06 on Feb 6, 2022 7:26:47 GMT
Greetings from the edge of the earth, Possibly the bleakest weather I’ve ever attended a match in. We won and we won comfortably, Dublin were very poor but we beat them without hitting top gear ourselves. I thought Barry did very well along with our superb number 11 and absolutely majestic number 14. Paudi’s black card looked, from where I was, a terrible decision and Niall Scully seems to have taken the mantle from Philly of no matter where I am on the pitch, no matter who is winning or what’s going on - I’ll start a pointless row. He was septic to watch off the ball. Good enough for them, only disappointment was that we didn’t win by more. Give them another €20 million Do you know Scully is so good at starting rows that he got a black card for an incident that he was 40 yards from. Paul galvinitis
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Post by taggert on Feb 6, 2022 8:33:13 GMT
Delighted with the win but as always I have gripes. Black cards. Barry and Paudie blatant Black cards and silly. David. What a majestic player but gets involved in the silly stuff needlessly. One point in 2nd half. Poor. Positives Foley excellent and midfield were super. Dára Moynihan made me eat my words tonight. Not happy with 2nd half but happy with win. Don't fool ourselves either. Dubs missing so many first team players like Fitzsimons Cooper McDaid McCarthy Costello Con. If they had them tonight? Perspective needed. Also sad to see some of our supporters jeering tonight. Anyway 3 points on board so happy but still wary. Can u elaborate a bit on Jason? He gave away 2 soft frees in the opening quarter, pushing man in back with forwards back to goal - needless. 2 points. He also gave possession away later with a needless kick along the ground into midfield after getting frazzled in possession. A dangerous kick. He, like the rest of the team, grew into the game thereafter and played well from that point on.
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Post by royalkerryfan on Feb 6, 2022 8:36:30 GMT
Sore head happy heart.
I hoped Kerry would lay down a marker and they did.
The Dubs can be thankful for the weather or it would have been worse.
No great insights on the game until I watch it again just a tribute both teams and fans who made it a great occasion.
I did say that Dublin had lost their aura and I think I was vindicated
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Post by taggert on Feb 6, 2022 8:39:36 GMT
Sore head happy heart. I hoped Kerry would lay down a marker and they did. The Dubs can be thankful for the weather or it would have been worse. No great insights on the game until I watch it again just a tribute both teams and fans who made it a great occasion. I did say that Dublin had lost their aura and I think I was vindicated You do know they were missing half their team. They have lost depth for sure but they do have All Ireland winning knowhow. We don't. Yet.
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Post by 1979 on Feb 6, 2022 8:40:34 GMT
Greetings from the edge of the earth, Possibly the bleakest weather I’ve ever attended a match in. We won and we won comfortably, Dublin were very poor but we beat them without hitting top gear ourselves. I thought Barry did very well along with our superb number 11 and absolutely majestic number 14. Paudi’s black card looked, from where I was, a terrible decision and Niall Scully seems to have taken the mantle from Philly of no matter where I am on the pitch, no matter who is winning or what’s going on - I’ll start a pointless row. He was septic to watch off the ball. Good enough for them, only disappointment was that we didn’t win by more. Give them another €20 million Do you know Scully is so good at starting rows that he got a black card for an incident that he was 40 yards from. Nice touch by him though to run about 30 yards after the penalty miss to goad Clifford. Can’t buy that class.
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Post by 1979 on Feb 6, 2022 8:41:54 GMT
In terms of a breakdown of how each player performed: Shane Murphy: Big questions still remain after that ‘goal’. Feel he’s a bit slow on kick outs. Good save and nice left legged kick outs in 2nd half. DO’D: Very solid performance, showed well and has the strength for the wet conditions Foley: Few soft frees but grew into the game and feel he dealt with everything else well TO’S: Cruising out there. Could have ended up with 2 goals himself from corner back Murphy: Very welcome return to form. In control and didn’t struggle physically Morley: Very solid, stays back mostly which is what Kerry need. Only time we were caught was off a kick out press Begley: Great display. Gave the cutting when others were lateral. Best ball carrier in team with White. If he can learn to clip over points when he tears through he’ll be one of the best around. DO’C: Rolls Royce. Everything seems to come so easy to him, passing, kicking points, fielding, gliding past players Barry: Gave a good physical edge. Would have had big concerns after the Tyrone game but this was a good start Spillane: Fought for everything. Thought he was in danger of missing out on the panel this year but his battling has proven to be a important cog in the team SO’S: Back where we belongs. Curl kicking a free from 60 yards in first half was a highlight. No love lost between himself and John Small Moynihan: Quiet first 20 but exploded into it. Thought he stayed on a little longer than needed given the nature of his role P.Clifford: Set the tone. Ball winning. Hitting the line at speed. Close control off the charts D.Clifford: Glorious points kicked. His reaction to the penalty miss was most impressive. Needs to avoid the skirmishes Geaney: So intelligent. Could have had a good bit more but would rather that than not having the chances. Links the plat so well and the ability to judge ball winning is crucial Begley was excellent
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Post by royalkerryfan on Feb 6, 2022 9:00:56 GMT
Sore head happy heart. I hoped Kerry would lay down a marker and they did. The Dubs can be thankful for the weather or it would have been worse. No great insights on the game until I watch it again just a tribute both teams and fans who made it a great occasion. I did say that Dublin had lost their aura and I think I was vindicated You do know they were missing half their team. They have lost depth for sure but they do have All Ireland winning knowhow. We don't. Yet. Yes I do, but they weren't missing last year and that was their form then too.
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Post by Mickmack on Feb 6, 2022 9:44:02 GMT
Keith Duggan
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KERRY:
1 S Murphy;
2 D O’Donoghue, 3 J Foley, 4 T O’Sullivan;
5 P Murphy, 6 T Morley, 7 B O’Beaglaoich;
8 D O’Connor (0-1), 9 J Barry;
10 B Spillane, 11 S O’Shea (0-5, 0-3 frees)
12 D Moynihan (1-1);
13 P Clifford (0-1), 14 D Clifford (0-5), 15 P Geaney (0-3, 0-1 mark).
Substitutes:
20 T Brosnan for 15 P Geaney (63 mins), 18 M Burns for 12 D Moynihan (64 mins), 19 G Crowley for 6 T Morley (71 mins) 23 D Casey for 2 D O’Donoghue (71 mins).
DUBLIN:
1 E Comerford (0-1 free),
2 L Gannon, 3 D Byrne, 4 S McMahon;
17 D Conlon, 6 B Howard (0-1), 7 J Small;
8 B Fenton (0-1), 9 T Lahiff;
10 S Bugler (0-1), 11 C Kilkenny (0-1), 12 N Scully;
24 L O’Dell, 20 C McCormack, 15 D Rock (0-5, 0-4 frees).
Subsitutes:
14 C Archer for C O’Dell (51 mins), 13 R Basquel (0-1) for 20 C McCormack (51 mins),
15 R McGarry for 12 N Scully (65 mins),
21 K McGinnis for 7 J Small (68 mins),
5 CJ Smith for 17 D Conlon (71 mins).
Referee: N Lane (Cork).[/quote]
If Kerry meet Dublin in July, i'd about 8 of last nights Dublin side will see action that day. About half will not or will not start anyway.
It's hard to see how Kerry will field a stronger team. DMoran may start or he may be held back. Shane Ryan may be in goal.
Thats about it. There may be changes at wing forward as DM, SOS and Savage are chasing the same spot. GW may be at wing back.
I would have preferred if Dublin had more of their definite starters playing last night but you can only play whats in front of you.
Sufficient unto the day and all that but it would be a fooling man thats getting carried away.
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Post by fitz on Feb 6, 2022 9:49:30 GMT
In terms of a breakdown of how each player performed: Shane Murphy: Big questions still remain after that ‘goal’. Feel he’s a bit slow on kick outs. Good save and nice left legged kick outs in 2nd half. DO’D: Very solid performance, showed well and has the strength for the wet conditions Foley: Few soft frees but grew into the game and feel he dealt with everything else well TO’S: Cruising out there. Could have ended up with 2 goals himself from corner back Murphy: Very welcome return to form. In control and didn’t struggle physically Morley: Very solid, stays back mostly which is what Kerry need. Only time we were caught was off a kick out press Begley: Great display. Gave the cutting when others were lateral. Best ball carrier in team with White. If he can learn to clip over points when he tears through he’ll be one of the best around. DO’C: Rolls Royce. Everything seems to come so easy to him, passing, kicking points, fielding, gliding past players Barry: Gave a good physical edge. Would have had big concerns after the Tyrone game but this was a good start Spillane: Fought for everything. Thought he was in danger of missing out on the panel this year but his battling has proven to be a important cog in the team SO’S: Back where we belongs. Curl kicking a free from 60 yards in first half was a highlight. No love lost between himself and John Small Moynihan: Quiet first 20 but exploded into it. Thought he stayed on a little longer than needed given the nature of his role P.Clifford: Set the tone. Ball winning. Hitting the line at speed. Close control off the charts D.Clifford: Glorious points kicked. His reaction to the penalty miss was most impressive. Needs to avoid the skirmishes Geaney: So intelligent. Could have had a good bit more but would rather that than not having the chances. Links the plat so well and the ability to judge ball winning is crucial Begley was excellent Totally, brilliant ball retention and carries in multiple tight situations
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Post by southward on Feb 6, 2022 9:58:17 GMT
Like others, I had my doubts about him but Moynihan will be well pleased with his evening, and not just for the scores either. Had a fine game and put himself right back into the reckoning imo. Morley too was really good as was O'Donoghue.
Enjoyable night and well worth the soaking. Wasn't too bad on the terrace in fairness, always a bit of shelter in a big crowd. Felt sorry for the lad singing beforehand, can't think of his name - out on the pitch in the pissing rain, not even a hat.
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Post by piggott on Feb 6, 2022 10:24:48 GMT
Did Killian Spillane, Jack Savage, and Stephen O'Brien not also come on? Seven subs or were two of them blood subs?
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Post by southward on Feb 6, 2022 10:37:13 GMT
Did Killian Spillane, Jack Savage, and Stephen O'Brien not also come on? Seven subs or were two of them blood subs? They did. There were a couple of blood subs but was hard to follow which was what.
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Post by john4 on Feb 6, 2022 10:47:33 GMT
Nothing to do with the football but what a show of upper body strength by Clifford to put John Small and David Byrne on the floor in one sweep. Unreal power
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Post by dc84 on Feb 6, 2022 10:51:25 GMT
What a difference a week makes (Jack Barry and DOC). A lot of us were pinning our hopes on young o connor and I think it's justified he is up there in the top bracket of players. I think the balance of the defence is better than last few years Morley and beaglaoich are so much better in hb line and o donoghue is a great addition a nice bit of bite in him! A lot of competition back there now with casey and white looking for jerseys aswell. Overall very cohesive effort from the backs again. we won midfield aswell i think people can see Adrian spillanes worth now surely? He is a big strong aggressive tackler who will fight on his back for kerry. Once we recognise his limitations ie he won't ever run a game like dara o se or Moran then he has a place in the squad. The forward line was good as we knew it would be once o shea took up his customary 11 position which freed paudie Clifford to play his own game. Having said all that we got a bit of the rub of the green with the disallowed goal that won't happen in dublins home pitch in the Summer. Also dublin were weak mentally and a look rudderless tbh. They have reinforcements to come in every line Cooper,Fitzsimons, mcarthy, paddy small, costello and O Callaghan will make a massive difference if they all come back...
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Post by Whosinmidfield on Feb 6, 2022 11:12:24 GMT
If Kerry meet Dublin in July, i'd about 8 of last nights Dublin side will see action that day. About half will not or will not start anyway. It's hard to see how Kerry will field a stronger team. DMoran may start or he may be held back. Shane Ryan may be in goal. Thats about it. There may be changes at wing forward as DM, SOS and Savage are chasing the same spot. GW will be at wing back. I would have preferred if Dublin had more of their definite starters playing last night but you can only play whats in front of you. Sufficient unto the day and all that but it would be a fooling man thats getting carried away. Gavin White and Mike Breen to come back into the half back line too. Lots of competition there now. Dublin have Fitzsimons, Cooper, McDaid/Murchan, McCarthy, O’Callaghan and Small/Costello to come into the championship team. So by my estimation they’ll have 9 of the team that started last night starting come championship which is a fairly high number. I don’t think they can hide too much behind “we had a very under strength side out”. I’m not sure Farrell is capable of turning it around, we’ll see. Some really big games coming up for them to try and avoid relegation, Mayo in Croke Park and Kildare in Newbridge.
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Post by Premier on Feb 6, 2022 11:14:33 GMT
Another small thing, can people stop booing opposition free takers. It’s extremely childish and not sporting whatsoever. Hate to hear it
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Post by Attacking Wing Back on Feb 6, 2022 11:21:10 GMT
I thought Shane Murphy did fine given the conditions. The 'goal' was a freak occurrence with the ball being held up by the wind. I remember Shane Ryan had a few howlers too in the league under the high ball so its not as if it hasn't happened either keeper before. I assume after the break Ryan will get his two games and management might then make a decision as to who is their starting keeper.
To be honest I have no problem who they pick. They are different types of players each with their own strengths. Depends what the management want from them.
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